Entirely my point. Phones have become companions. I'm even over the phone not being just a phone anymore (well I'm not but we're way past that point too), just quit trying to second-guess me. I guess someone would like this, but I definitely would not and do not know anyone who reasonably would.
We have gone long past ridiculous in what we are having our "phones" do (and why do we even bother to call them phones anymore). Sheesh. A mood phone? I thought mood items went out in the 80s.
You and I are apparently dealing with two different definitions of auth/identity token.
When I say authorization token, I'm talking about a password/phrase what have you. When I say it's an identity token I mean it's something used to identify you as you. Saying that the SSN hasn't become an identity token is to ignore the last 20+ years of it being used as such.
I'm not addressing anything else you said because you aren't making sense.
You've never worked for T.J. Maxx where you had to have one at the time you fill out all your forms and they take a copy of your SS card and DL/ID (mandatory to have SS card according to T.J. Maxx policy, at least in 2k1).
No, identity theft is not because of SSN use as an auth token (not entirely anyway).
Identity theft is because your SSN is used as an identity token (at the employer level; not many employers will accept ID without having a copy of your SS card, some won't take anything but your DL/ID and SS card even if your SSN is on the DL/ID).
I keep my SSN card under lock and key and don't give it out unless I'm forced to (school, federal benefits such as pell grant, employment, banks). Unfortunately an increasing amount of web sites that don't really need your SSN are asking for it (or even requiring it) without proper encryption (both of the connection AND the resulting record). Granted even with proper encryption, one socially engineered employee later and all your uber-encryption is useless.
Because MS does have that history. I'm not surprised this is happening to MS. I'd be outraged if it were Apple or Google, but I'd also be surprised (though less and less so as the comments roll in).
Ah. Alright, I stand corrected (on a hair split). One could argue that both were created at the same time (certainly within the Almighty's power). But I'm not going to argue either point. No point in doing so. Moving along to the issue at hand, now. The issue of geocentrism and the fact that it isn't supported anywhere in scripture.
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momentum and chutzpah.
No kidding.
nope, because if I don't provide it during the application process (the card, not the number) they won't even consider me for an interview.
Thinking with portals? :p
Entirely my point. Phones have become companions. I'm even over the phone not being just a phone anymore (well I'm not but we're way past that point too), just quit trying to second-guess me. I guess someone would like this, but I definitely would not and do not know anyone who reasonably would.
We have gone long past ridiculous in what we are having our "phones" do (and why do we even bother to call them phones anymore). Sheesh. A mood phone? I thought mood items went out in the 80s.
way to leave out my parenthetical aside.
You and I are apparently dealing with two different definitions of auth/identity token.
When I say authorization token, I'm talking about a password/phrase what have you. When I say it's an identity token I mean it's something used to identify you as you. Saying that the SSN hasn't become an identity token is to ignore the last 20+ years of it being used as such.
I'm not addressing anything else you said because you aren't making sense.
You've never worked for T.J. Maxx where you had to have one at the time you fill out all your forms and they take a copy of your SS card and DL/ID (mandatory to have SS card according to T.J. Maxx policy, at least in 2k1).
That's exactly what I said.
No, identity theft is not because of SSN use as an auth token (not entirely anyway).
Identity theft is because your SSN is used as an identity token (at the employer level; not many employers will accept ID without having a copy of your SS card, some won't take anything but your DL/ID and SS card even if your SSN is on the DL/ID).
I keep my SSN card under lock and key and don't give it out unless I'm forced to (school, federal benefits such as pell grant, employment, banks). Unfortunately an increasing amount of web sites that don't really need your SSN are asking for it (or even requiring it) without proper encryption (both of the connection AND the resulting record). Granted even with proper encryption, one socially engineered employee later and all your uber-encryption is useless.
um, no one said anything about passwords.
And SSN was only supposed to be used to track eligibility for SS benefits. Not for identification.
You mean Australia did something right? Say it isn't so :p
Keep on fighting against national id, we already have it and don't yet know it.
try getting a job without giving it (and I'm not talking about filling out the w-4, I'm talking about when they ask for ID).
Exactly, and what is it used for? To establish identity by the government's own rules!
The problem is that the SSN is so closely tagged to everything you do, just knowing it makes stealing an identity way too easy.
How they waste their money is between them and their donors.
I don't recall advocating for any piece of software...
I see lots of assumptions and limitations of God's power, but thanks for the link. Interesting read.
Scribus ftw. (:
Because MS does have that history. I'm not surprised this is happening to MS. I'd be outraged if it were Apple or Google, but I'd also be surprised (though less and less so as the comments roll in).
Ah. Alright, I stand corrected (on a hair split). One could argue that both were created at the same time (certainly within the Almighty's power). But I'm not going to argue either point. No point in doing so. Moving along to the issue at hand, now. The issue of geocentrism and the fact that it isn't supported anywhere in scripture.
How does that say the earth is the center of the universe? The entire concept of heaven was "up in the sky" or even just "up".
No where in the bible are we taught that the earth is the center of the universe.
Just like you shouldn't mix your metaphors you shouldn't mix your scientists.
Let's see... 18% of Americans believe that the Earth is the center of the universe? For real?
No shit.
I now understand a little more about the stalwarts that support Obama no matter what.
Works just as well this way, too. :p
Really? Because I'm rather familiar with the bible and no where does it say the earth is the center of the universe. Just created first.