Censorship's very NATURE IS an all or nothing proposition. Once it's started, it's like that 8 ton locomotive in the fact that not much can stand in the way to stop it. And yes, I think it IS perfectly all right. That's why children have parents. If the parents don't like what's on tv, they can CHANGE THE CHANNEL. It is that easy. Basic cable by me is nearly 500 channels. Around 100 or so are PPV, another 100 or so are music related (not music video's). I have two History Channels, several Discovery channels, National Geographic, TLC, Animal Planet, Sci-Fi channel, Cartoon Network and Boomerang (classic cartoon's like Tom and Jerry). There is NOT a shortage of stuff to watch. If you don't have cable or satellite, buy a vcr or DVD player and watch what ever the hell you want.
Again it is our standards versus theirs. We both agree child pr0n is sick. There are those who don't.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." Emphasis is mine. There are better way's to crack down on child pr0n then censorship (such as execute on site those convicted beyond a reasonable doubt).
When that is all you have to be proud of, it's time to start seriously thinking about how your gov't is run (not that mine is a model gov't either, mind you) and do something to change it.
"Somethings are just not worth defending and Child Pornography is one of those things."
I did not say I defended Child Porn. There are some soceties (I'm assuming the use of society as in "country") though where I am sure it is acceptable. I don't agree it should EVER be acceptable, but who am I to dictate to any populace what is objectionable and what isn't? Whose standards do I use? My own? Yours? the NZ Gov't's? Where does it end, too? It starts with pr0n censorship, soon you can't speak out against the gov't. New Zealanders should just elect a communist gov't and be done with it. At least then the censorship would make sense (wouldn't make it right, mind you).
The protection of minors is the job of those minor's parents. If those parents cannot or will not take the time to protect their children, the government should NOT step in.
It takes a village to raise a child but only one idiot to run it.
I agree completely. The government (NZ's, the US's, or any other gov't) does NOT have a right to tell us what we can and cannot view. It is NOT their job. Their job is to protect us from murderers, rapists, and theifs (spouse beaters are just as bad as murderers and are therefore grouped in that category). Everyone else is harmless (relatively).
Censorship is wrong, plain and simple. I'm not condoning child pr0n, but just because I condemn it doesn't mean I'm going to let the government censor the internet connection.
I agree completely, although I've been modded up to 5 once or twice, it's extremely rare, even though the majority of my comments are on topic (I usually get modded down as a troll if I say something the mod's disagree with).
Lets say you are right (and with those figures it appears you are). I still dislike the idea of mining on the moon.
Lets capture NEAR's instead. There is nothing romantic about an asteroid.
The moon, now there's a romantic image.
"And so they frolicked in the light of the full moon, the two lovers who were forbidden to see each other. Only at night, when everyone was asleep, where they able to get away and spend time with each other. With the devine light of the full moon to guide their way for all time."
Call me a sap, but I don't like the idea of maring the moon for our own greedy purposes. First lets learn how to take care of this planet before we go raping any others.
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Censorship's very NATURE IS an all or nothing proposition. Once it's started, it's like that 8 ton locomotive in the fact that not much can stand in the way to stop it. And yes, I think it IS perfectly all right. That's why children have parents. If the parents don't like what's on tv, they can CHANGE THE CHANNEL. It is that easy. Basic cable by me is nearly 500 channels. Around 100 or so are PPV, another 100 or so are music related (not music video's). I have two History Channels, several Discovery channels, National Geographic, TLC, Animal Planet, Sci-Fi channel, Cartoon Network and Boomerang (classic cartoon's like Tom and Jerry). There is NOT a shortage of stuff to watch. If you don't have cable or satellite, buy a vcr or DVD player and watch what ever the hell you want.
Again it is our standards versus theirs. We both agree child pr0n is sick. There are those who don't.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." Emphasis is mine. There are better way's to crack down on child pr0n then censorship (such as execute on site those convicted beyond a reasonable doubt).
When that is all you have to be proud of, it's time to start seriously thinking about how your gov't is run (not that mine is a model gov't either, mind you) and do something to change it.
"Somethings are just not worth defending and Child Pornography is one of those things."
I did not say I defended Child Porn. There are some soceties (I'm assuming the use of society as in "country") though where I am sure it is acceptable. I don't agree it should EVER be acceptable, but who am I to dictate to any populace what is objectionable and what isn't? Whose standards do I use? My own? Yours? the NZ Gov't's? Where does it end, too? It starts with pr0n censorship, soon you can't speak out against the gov't. New Zealanders should just elect a communist gov't and be done with it. At least then the censorship would make sense (wouldn't make it right, mind you).
Child molestation is rape, is it not?
OMG. No wonder England was able to get away with such strict gun control laws.
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What's scary is that you say that as if it's a GOOD thing. I'll take a Representative Republic any day over your WestMinster system.
Censorship in any form is unacceptable.
Even moderate censorship is censorship.
I don't care how clued in the politician is, I'll NEVER accept or submit to censorship.
The protection of minors is the job of those minor's parents. If those parents cannot or will not take the time to protect their children, the government should NOT step in.
It takes a village to raise a child but only one idiot to run it.
I agree completely. The government (NZ's, the US's, or any other gov't) does NOT have a right to tell us what we can and cannot view. It is NOT their job. Their job is to protect us from murderers, rapists, and theifs (spouse beaters are just as bad as murderers and are therefore grouped in that category). Everyone else is harmless (relatively).
Probably as easy as googling for "open proxy"
Censorship is wrong, plain and simple. I'm not condoning child pr0n, but just because I condemn it doesn't mean I'm going to let the government censor the internet connection.
If the "Parliment" is elected, it's a government body/organization.
As for your MMP voting system, never heard of it, sounds a bit complicated, interested in learning more though.
I find the fact that NZ does any sort of censorship deplorable.
And to think, I once thought the folks down under were reasonable folk.
I agree completely, although I've been modded up to 5 once or twice, it's extremely rare, even though the majority of my comments are on topic (I usually get modded down as a troll if I say something the mod's disagree with).
wtf?
Offtopic?
I submitted a story yesterday about this.
Like I said, lets grab some NEAR's or comets first, 'kee?
Perhaps.
Call me sentimental though.
Now that's a prize I wouldn't mind having. ;)
Go Hungary!
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It's good to see Hungary sponsor something like this. Perhaps we'll here more from this little European country in the future.
I have no problems with capturing asteroids and comets. Those are resources to which I hold no value. The moon, oth, is valuable.
Lets say you are right (and with those figures it appears you are). I still dislike the idea of mining on the moon.
Lets capture NEAR's instead. There is nothing romantic about an asteroid.
The moon, now there's a romantic image.
"And so they frolicked in the light of the full moon, the two lovers who were forbidden to see each other. Only at night, when everyone was asleep, where they able to get away and spend time with each other. With the devine light of the full moon to guide their way for all time."
Call me a sap, but I don't like the idea of maring the moon for our own greedy purposes. First lets learn how to take care of this planet before we go raping any others.
Depending on how much force was used to kick it up.