Yes, the moon weighs a helluva lot, but look at how efficient we are at strip mining our OWN planet. How much material has been displaced because of that? A whole fucking LOT. On the moon there is really no where to stick the excess dust except in space, there by creating a blanket of dust that causes LESS light to fall upon our planet.
On another note, I really must not have a clue as to what a troll is. My original post was just my opinion. Not intended to start flame wars.
Sorry, CAPPS II and making sure we have firefighters and police man are NOT the same. CAPPS II is an invasion of privacy and restricts the rights of U.S. Citizens to freely and anonymously travle throughout the nation.
I WOULD rather DIE than give into terror inducing and civil liberty stripping programs like CAPPS II.
That is the one reason NOT to mine the moon. The ecosystem on Earth has spent untold eons adapting to a lunar cycle that if we were to somehow cause that affect to lessen, it could be disastrous.
While I understand that it could bring in valuable raw materials, lets start trying to figure out on how to capture some of the NEAR's that are due to approach Earth in the near future (pun not intended) and mine them. If the solar system can handle having a few hundred thousand of them being chucked down from the asteroid belt (and comets from the Oort Cloud and Kupier region), with the result most being lost to either deep space or being gobbled by one planet or another (or even the sun), then I have no qualms with taking them and exploiting the asteroid belt as a whole for natural resources.
The real issue at hand is the fact that the government collected this data before they had a policy on how it would be used/abused/protected/advertised. Personally the gov't mucked up on this one, therefore they should be made to pay for damages after they hand out the email addy's. Yes, it might be a violation of privacy, but since no policy existed, the person requesting them just used the law (or non-existance of law's and statutes and rules) to legally spam his neighbors (unsolicited email is unsolicited email, no matter who it's from).
And it can be argued that your phone number in and of itself is a copyrighted work (or at the very least, copyrighted). The reason I believe this is the fact that telco's have to respect your decision on whether or not to publish your number in a phone book. That alone implies you hold a copyright on your number.
By circumventing the telezapper, they are circumventing a technological lock (whether or not it's a fake sign, it's there to block telemarketers). And what about all the phone calls one gets where they either hang up after two rings (just to see if the number works). If you do manage to get it, chances are there's no one on the other end (this just happened to myself). Whose to say those type of calls are nothing more then brute force callers checking to see if a number works or not. I'm sure phone number harvesting is a VERY lucrative business.
Don't forget, automated phone calls (one's where you pick up and a machine starts spouting off something or another) are illegal to begin with.
Hell no. Especially not one that will profit with a hefty sum of $2700 per seat. I think it'd be safe to say that Castle, Inc might be the Microshaft of the telecommunications world.
I know that the DMCA is SUPPOSED to apply to copyrighted material, but think of it this way.
The phone company cannot publish your phone number without your permission. That immediately gives an implied copyright to your phone number. By bypassing technological locks on your phone number to prevent telemarketers from contacting you or having your number as one that works, they (by a long stretch) can be seen as bypassing technological locks to copyrighted material (e.g. bypassing the telezapper to get your phone to ring).
Isn't Castle, Inc's software a direct violation of the DMCA? It purposely gets around blocks AND can falsely report information to a caller id box. Sounds like it's time to pull out the lawyers.
How true, but as was recently told to me by another AC, "The price for freedom is eternal vigilence." (attrib. to Thomas Jefferson). A lot of American's have forgotten that and are now only too willing to give up their freedoms in the guise of making it harder for terrorists to operate within not only U.S. borders, but anywhere else in the world.
I thank you for reading my journal entry and taking the time to reply.
Yeah, several hours after I wrote it (and re-read it), I realized I probably came off sounding like a crackpot, but P2 just really buffed my buttons, and none of my friends whom I talk politics with regularly were online!
Ah well. Perhaps in a few days I'll re-write it, but alot of what I stated will stay. I'll just say it differently.
Of course this will most likely get modded down as troll (whatever) and offtopic (duh, this is directly relating to the article posted if you haven't noticed), but that's okay. I know I'm writing all my congressmen to denounce this peice of legislation. My freedom IS my security. I just wish the rest of the sheep in this country would get the fuck off their lazy asses and realize that.
I for one REFUSE to live in a Soviet or Nazi America, land of the oppressed.
the/. editors are just seeing how many lame comments people will make as opposed to actual answers. So far, I've seen two or three actuall (aka serious) answers to the topic (there is no question since there is no post).
Otherwise I think they've jumped April Fools Day by a month and some-odd days.
They may have not had anything to do with the internet we know today, but they are indeed the fathers of the BBS, which evolved into the internet, after a fashion.
Yes, they are a telephone service. I pay them (the tel-co) for a phone number and the right to make calls. In addition, the telephone number is considered my private property for how ever long I keep the account. That being said, I also get to choose whether I can block other people from seeing my number (caller id block) and whether it's listed in the phone book or not. For the Direct Marketers Association to claim they have unlimited rights to MY phone number pisses me off. It pisses me off even more when I know my own phone company is providing them these lists (with other personal information, just the other day I got a telemarkter trying to sell me an unsecured Visa, he knew ME SPECIFICALLY (I'm Joseph A Nagy Jr, my father is (obviously) Sr)). If my telco was selling my info and I knew about it, I'd switch to another phone company, whether or not the price was higher. If there was no other company, I'd look into re-activating my cellphone (which I just might do anyways).
And if they value their customer's business, they'll value their customers privacy. The fact that a judge is saying that they can sell customer information means I will NEVER use Verizon as a phone company/ISP.
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I have no trouble thinking about vacuum based environments. Most people seem to forget though that the moon has what, 1/6th the gravity of Earth?
Just look at how EFFICIENT we are at strip mining our planet.
Yes, the moon weighs a helluva lot, but look at how efficient we are at strip mining our OWN planet. How much material has been displaced because of that? A whole fucking LOT. On the moon there is really no where to stick the excess dust except in space, there by creating a blanket of dust that causes LESS light to fall upon our planet.
On another note, I really must not have a clue as to what a troll is. My original post was just my opinion. Not intended to start flame wars.
Sorry, CAPPS II and making sure we have firefighters and police man are NOT the same. CAPPS II is an invasion of privacy and restricts the rights of U.S. Citizens to freely and anonymously travle throughout the nation.
I WOULD rather DIE than give into terror inducing and civil liberty stripping programs like CAPPS II.
That is the one reason NOT to mine the moon. The ecosystem on Earth has spent untold eons adapting to a lunar cycle that if we were to somehow cause that affect to lessen, it could be disastrous.
While I understand that it could bring in valuable raw materials, lets start trying to figure out on how to capture some of the NEAR's that are due to approach Earth in the near future (pun not intended) and mine them. If the solar system can handle having a few hundred thousand of them being chucked down from the asteroid belt (and comets from the Oort Cloud and Kupier region), with the result most being lost to either deep space or being gobbled by one planet or another (or even the sun), then I have no qualms with taking them and exploiting the asteroid belt as a whole for natural resources.
The real issue at hand is the fact that the government collected this data before they had a policy on how it would be used/abused/protected/advertised. Personally the gov't mucked up on this one, therefore they should be made to pay for damages after they hand out the email addy's. Yes, it might be a violation of privacy, but since no policy existed, the person requesting them just used the law (or non-existance of law's and statutes and rules) to legally spam his neighbors (unsolicited email is unsolicited email, no matter who it's from).
It's a slow night at /.
I know it's a stretch, but it's one I'd be willing to try and make to a judge to protect my phone number.
And it can be argued that your phone number in and of itself is a copyrighted work (or at the very least, copyrighted). The reason I believe this is the fact that telco's have to respect your decision on whether or not to publish your number in a phone book. That alone implies you hold a copyright on your number.
By circumventing the telezapper, they are circumventing a technological lock (whether or not it's a fake sign, it's there to block telemarketers). And what about all the phone calls one gets where they either hang up after two rings (just to see if the number works). If you do manage to get it, chances are there's no one on the other end (this just happened to myself). Whose to say those type of calls are nothing more then brute force callers checking to see if a number works or not. I'm sure phone number harvesting is a VERY lucrative business.
Don't forget, automated phone calls (one's where you pick up and a machine starts spouting off something or another) are illegal to begin with.
Hell no. Especially not one that will profit with a hefty sum of $2700 per seat. I think it'd be safe to say that Castle, Inc might be the Microshaft of the telecommunications world.
I know that the DMCA is SUPPOSED to apply to copyrighted material, but think of it this way.
The phone company cannot publish your phone number without your permission. That immediately gives an implied copyright to your phone number. By bypassing technological locks on your phone number to prevent telemarketers from contacting you or having your number as one that works, they (by a long stretch) can be seen as bypassing technological locks to copyrighted material (e.g. bypassing the telezapper to get your phone to ring).
Isn't Castle, Inc's software a direct violation of the DMCA? It purposely gets around blocks AND can falsely report information to a caller id box. Sounds like it's time to pull out the lawyers.
I believe it's possible. That's why there need's to be major change now. Not small, progressive change.
How true, but as was recently told to me by another AC, "The price for freedom is eternal vigilence." (attrib. to Thomas Jefferson). A lot of American's have forgotten that and are now only too willing to give up their freedoms in the guise of making it harder for terrorists to operate within not only U.S. borders, but anywhere else in the world.
I thank you for reading my journal entry and taking the time to reply.
:)
Yeah, several hours after I wrote it (and re-read it), I realized I probably came off sounding like a crackpot, but P2 just really buffed my buttons, and none of my friends whom I talk politics with regularly were online!
Ah well. Perhaps in a few days I'll re-write it, but alot of what I stated will stay. I'll just say it differently.
Again, thanks for responding.
I whole heartedly agree, and I wish I could do more than make you a /. friend (too bad I can't give you my /. karma or something equally valuable).
In lieu of that, March is the date my web server is going online, how'd you like to start a "Stop The Madness" website/campaign?
Anything less then the revoking of Patriot Act I and unanimous support for blocking Patriot II (whose powers are outlined in the ACLU's Interested Persons Memo: Section-by-Section Analysis of Justice Department draft "Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003," also known as "PATROIT Act II")is (and should be by any self-respecting American) totally and irrevocablly unacceptable.
Of course this will most likely get modded down as troll (whatever) and offtopic (duh, this is directly relating to the article posted if you haven't noticed), but that's okay. I know I'm writing all my congressmen to denounce this peice of legislation. My freedom IS my security. I just wish the rest of the sheep in this country would get the fuck off their lazy asses and realize that.
I for one REFUSE to live in a Soviet or Nazi America, land of the oppressed.
the /. editors are just seeing how many lame comments people will make as opposed to actual answers. So far, I've seen two or three actuall (aka serious) answers to the topic (there is no question since there is no post).
Otherwise I think they've jumped April Fools Day by a month and some-odd days.
It seems the truth gets labled as trolls when someone disagree's. How nice.
The terrorists have more rights then you!
Actually, the refrenced /. article does talk about the 300 baud modem. :-P
They may have not had anything to do with the internet we know today, but they are indeed the fathers of the BBS, which evolved into the internet, after a fashion.
He could just use xpdf, couldn't he?
Yes, they are a telephone service. I pay them (the tel-co) for a phone number and the right to make calls. In addition, the telephone number is considered my private property for how ever long I keep the account. That being said, I also get to choose whether I can block other people from seeing my number (caller id block) and whether it's listed in the phone book or not. For the Direct Marketers Association to claim they have unlimited rights to MY phone number pisses me off. It pisses me off even more when I know my own phone company is providing them these lists (with other personal information, just the other day I got a telemarkter trying to sell me an unsecured Visa, he knew ME SPECIFICALLY (I'm Joseph A Nagy Jr, my father is (obviously) Sr)). If my telco was selling my info and I knew about it, I'd switch to another phone company, whether or not the price was higher. If there was no other company, I'd look into re-activating my cellphone (which I just might do anyways).
And if they value their customer's business, they'll value their customers privacy. The fact that a judge is saying that they can sell customer information means I will NEVER use Verizon as a phone company/ISP.