Funny you should mention that. I too downloaded a few songs off that album and decided that they were so shitty that I didn't even want them taking up any space on my hard drive. In this case, mp3 definitely let me know that I didn't want to spend any cash on the cd.
That would be a great explaination except for the fact that that other provider of canned content, the MPAA, has actually had sales increase this year. It's not that people aren't buying entertainment, just not the crap that the record companies are putting out.
Would allow you to send the ISP a letter saying that you are not violating the act and they are, from that point forward, no longer liable for anything that you may be doing with your connection. It would be up to the studio to come after you, personally. Does anyone know if there is anywhere on the net where you can download one of these denial letters written in nice legalese?
He ould distribute it within freenet itself. It is currently possible to send secure messages to the owners of freesites without revealing your identity. Once it got around, anyone coul post a message to slashdot saying that it is in there...
Man, you really swallowed the line of crap that Microsoft is putting out. The whole.NET framework actually adds zero value to anything. It's just another way for Microsoft to extract money from everyone's wallet. I'd like to hear even one thing that can be done in the future with.NET that isn't currently being done without it.
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Why do people on this thread keep abusing the phrase 'illegal circumvention device'? We are talking about protocols to exchange information, not programs to get around 'access control'. The anti-cracking provisions of the law wouldn't apply at all because this has nothing to do with cracking.
So far, no "open source" business model has ever been shown to produce a reasonable return on investment or to produce a company that's a going concern for the long term.
Once again, that doesn't concern me one bit.
Furthermore, it is inappropriate for you -- or government (whose force the GPL enlists via the copyright laws) to dictate the business model that programmers use to sell their work.
Hey, I'd love nothing more than if all copyright laws disappeared tomorrow. I wouldn't have to worry about someone using my code in any way I didn't like because I could always do anything I wanted (like handing out copies on the street) with anything that was produced from my code, or any other code for that matter. The only restriction I care about is access to any code that is built from mine and released to the world. I don't have to dictate any business models - the market will sort things out nicely on its own.
It works well with BSD... which may, in fact, be the salvation of Apple Computer.
The difference is that, under the GPL, the code bears a "poison pill" that specifically hurts commercial developers. This discrimination is, as Stallman himself says, "the principle and the purpose."
'Commercial developers' have chosen a bad business model. Anybody in the world has the freedom to go into business selling buckets of air, but choosing to do so is probably not the brightest idea.
Who's angry? Look up the word 'projection', I think it might apply here. I actually think it's quite humorous that you would expect me to give up my work to people who only value making money. My interpretation of the quote you supplied is probably too close to reality for you to admit.
There is no destruction here, only perpetual building. Once my code is released under the GPL, it can never be taken away.
The article you are referencing doesn't even mention what bitrate the music was encoded at. From the descriptions, it sounds like 64K, because at 128K, ogg sounds much better than either mp3 or mp3Pro.
So far, I've encoded about 15 albums to ogg vorbis format. I'm trying to encode my more obscure albums, so that people who are looking for them will probably be forced to download from me and figure out how to use the format. Judging from the number of downloads I've been seeing on gnutella, there must be a few people out there who are listening to them.
By releasing your code to end users for free, you have already reduced the market value of the code and functionality to zero.
Yes, and I don't care about market value. I care about code. It all works out perfectly from my point of view. If you want to use my code as a starting point, all I ask is that you give to me (and the world) the same thing I gave to you - code. I have no responsibility to guarantee that others can make money doing things that I consider ridiculous, like selling prefab programs.
To paraphrase Brian Reid, programmers should stand on one another's shoulders -- not one another's feet.
Actually, as you point out, releasing my code under the GPL pretty much guarantees that you *can't* stand on my feet. If you want to do anything at all, you had better get climbing. If your only reason for programming is to make money, you need to find another job anyway.
Just wondering, does the BDS license give me the freedom to re-release the same code under the GPL?
Don't make me laugh, dude. It's my code, and if I don't want you making money off of my labor, that is 100% my perogative. If I wanted to allow people to leech off of my hard work to make money, I would release my programs under the inadequate BSD liscence. Commercial software is going to go away, eventually. Do I care at all? Nope - I don't write programs that are ever sold to anyone. The whole idea of paying for canned software is silly.
Could this feature be used by microsoft to block out any drivers that they simply don't approve of? Like say a driver that redirects the audio output to a file or something along those lines?
Haha! I think you seriously missed something. The GPL isn't about freedom, it's about equity. If I write a program and decide to give it away for no monetary gain, *nobody* is going to come along and use my code to do so. If you can't live with that, then don't use it. If you think you can write a commercial product that can compete with my free one, good luck!
I can believe the never gotten a virus part - I haven't either. It's the no spam thing that's blowing me away! How in the hell do you keep from getting it?
All that sweet old Aunt Mabel really has to do to get any song she wants is fire up LimeWire and not worry about things like cds. And it only takes one person to follow the slightly more convoluted steps above to make it available...
You missed the point: 99% of the people who listen to mp3s won't be able to tell the difference between an analog rip and a digital one. As it only takes one single successful rip to make any recording available universally, all the record companies are doing is wasting their money.
Many car cd players are more like cd roms than 'normal' cd players, mainly because of their anti-skip features. As are many higher-end cd players. These trashed cds will not play in these players any better than they would in a standard cd-rom.
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Funny you should mention that. I too downloaded a few songs off that album and decided that they were so shitty that I didn't even want them taking up any space on my hard drive. In this case, mp3 definitely let me know that I didn't want to spend any cash on the cd.
That would be a great explaination except for the fact that that other provider of canned content, the MPAA, has actually had sales increase this year. It's not that people aren't buying entertainment, just not the crap that the record companies are putting out.
Would allow you to send the ISP a letter saying that you are not violating the act and they are, from that point forward, no longer liable for anything that you may be doing with your connection. It would be up to the studio to come after you, personally. Does anyone know if there is anywhere on the net where you can download one of these denial letters written in nice legalese?
Incestors? Now *that's* a business plan!
Stupidity is relative. Every group, even mensa, has members that will invariably be considered stupid by other members of the group. :)
He ould distribute it within freenet itself. It is currently possible to send secure messages to the owners of freesites without revealing your identity. Once it got around, anyone coul post a message to slashdot saying that it is in there...
Man, you really swallowed the line of crap that Microsoft is putting out. The whole .NET framework actually adds zero value to anything. It's just another way for Microsoft to extract money from everyone's wallet. I'd like to hear even one thing that can be done in the future with .NET that isn't currently being done without it.
Why do people on this thread keep abusing the phrase 'illegal circumvention device'? We are talking about protocols to exchange information, not programs to get around 'access control'. The anti-cracking provisions of the law wouldn't apply at all because this has nothing to do with cracking.
Who's angry? Look up the word 'projection', I think it might apply here. I actually think it's quite humorous that you would expect me to give up my work to people who only value making money. My interpretation of the quote you supplied is probably too close to reality for you to admit.
There is no destruction here, only perpetual building. Once my code is released under the GPL, it can never be taken away.
The article you are referencing doesn't even mention what bitrate the music was encoded at. From the descriptions, it sounds like 64K, because at 128K, ogg sounds much better than either mp3 or mp3Pro.
So far, I've encoded about 15 albums to ogg vorbis format. I'm trying to encode my more obscure albums, so that people who are looking for them will probably be forced to download from me and figure out how to use the format. Judging from the number of downloads I've been seeing on gnutella, there must be a few people out there who are listening to them.
Just wondering, does the BDS license give me the freedom to re-release the same code under the GPL?
Don't make me laugh, dude. It's my code, and if I don't want you making money off of my labor, that is 100% my perogative. If I wanted to allow people to leech off of my hard work to make money, I would release my programs under the inadequate BSD liscence. Commercial software is going to go away, eventually. Do I care at all? Nope - I don't write programs that are ever sold to anyone. The whole idea of paying for canned software is silly.
Could this feature be used by microsoft to block out any drivers that they simply don't approve of? Like say a driver that redirects the audio output to a file or something along those lines?
I get this every time I download one of the precompiled rpms because every single one of them is compiled for the i686 platform and I have a k6-2.
Haha! I think you seriously missed something. The GPL isn't about freedom, it's about equity. If I write a program and decide to give it away for no monetary gain, *nobody* is going to come along and use my code to do so. If you can't live with that, then don't use it. If you think you can write a commercial product that can compete with my free one, good luck!
Wrong. If I'm playing the cd on any kind of equipment that doesn't do it's own DA conversion (like in a cdrom), you will get the distortion.
I can believe the never gotten a virus part - I haven't either. It's the no spam thing that's blowing me away! How in the hell do you keep from getting it?
Does Ford have the right to tell me I can't drive their trucks on certain roads?
All that sweet old Aunt Mabel really has to do to get any song she wants is fire up LimeWire and not worry about things like cds. And it only takes one person to follow the slightly more convoluted steps above to make it available...
You missed the point: 99% of the people who listen to mp3s won't be able to tell the difference between an analog rip and a digital one. As it only takes one single successful rip to make any recording available universally, all the record companies are doing is wasting their money.
Many car cd players are more like cd roms than 'normal' cd players, mainly because of their anti-skip features. As are many higher-end cd players. These trashed cds will not play in these players any better than they would in a standard cd-rom.
This would be cool as hell at a rave! :)