How do you figure? Solar panels are pennies on the ten thousand dollar bill next to oil. Fellating Exxon is a thoroughly bipartisan endeavor - Obama has opened up more land to drilling than Bush and Cheney, including the eastern seaboard. He brags that the U.S. is producing more oil and gas than it has the ability to transport to market. Biden's son is a top executive at Ukrainian energy company. BP was allowed to savage the Gulf of Mexico and get away with paying a fraction of the costs of mitigation. Politicians from both parties fall over themselves in the rush to pledge their love of coal.
Government has a heavy bias toward fossil fuels. If there was a bias resulting from government-funded science grants, it would be against climate change, not for it.
Case in point: just look at the GAO Climate Change report, detailing expenditures on "Funding for climate change activities", by far the most money goes to the Dept. of Energy, which of course doesn't spend a penny on actual climate science, but on things like "energy conservation" (ooh, evil) and "Fossil Energy Research
and Development "
Yes you read that right. The tax that according to the denialist PR gets wasted on climate research to quite a large extend goes into "Fossil Energy Research".
Nope, its the people who have to listen to the same "experts" (who mostly aren't climate scientists) repeating the same arguments that disagree with the vast majority of actual climate scientists.
"Nope" ??? "Nope"?? I would call that a failure of comprehension.
It isn't the "scientific community" that is making this demand, it is the people that fund the "scientific community"
Nope, its the people who have to listen to the same "experts" (who mostly aren't climate scientists) repeating the same arguments that disagree with the vast majority of actual climate scientists. And they want to know if there is something going on here - like the experts being paid by the same people as those who insist that they know more about climate science than actual climate scientists. You know, Senators like James M. Inhofe and people like the Koch brothers.
Yeah, because armies of users come to post on Apple forums to let people know the update's working fine for them.:)
Oh so that's why Windows is perceived as being bad, it actually isnt and it is just that the only people who are vocal are the ones that have problems. Well thanks for clearing that up!
Actually, many Windows users have given up complaining about Windows problems. Some even began complaining about problems in other OSs just so their pains feel less bad.
It has to do with the fact that satellite temperature measurements, favoured by denialists because it shows the least warming, started that year. That's why most charts you get to see on your favourite disinformation sources start that year. Most charts actually start about a century before that.
It shouldn't even indicate that. Consensus has zero to do with truth or even confirmation of theory, scientifically speaking. The majority saying that the moon is made of green cheese does not mean that the moon is actually made of green cheese.
But only the deniers are claiming the moon is made of green cheese.
Hmm, what industries could profit from climate change true believers?
How about governments, those who run them, and those tied to and who profit from government? They gain ever more power & control over ever-wider-ranging areas of life and have another excuse to squeeze the marks for more of their wealth.
Strat
Perfectly valid argument - if the utterance of "terrorism" didn't gave the government far more power than Global Warming ever could. IOW stick it where Soon's sunspots don't shine.
Warning about global warming is a good business to be in it seems...
In 2001, the Koch brothers where worth $ 3.2 billion each. In 2010 $ 17.5 billion. Looks like paying others to deny Global Warming seems to be a better business....
Gladly. They linked me to the correct drivers for my laptop after the Windows 8.1 upgrade had trashed them. As I recall there were a bunch of drivers I needed to reinstall since Windows 8.1 had decided to revert to Microsoft stock drivers, and they told me to where to get them. (Which was necessary since by default Samsung uses a driver download program which at the time didn't know what to do with Windows 8.1 and therefore refused to download anything. So in essence they were solving a problem they themselves created.)
Basically I didn't even ask Samsung for help but got it anyway. Try doing that with Apple.
You know why Apple doesn't help people with shit like this? Because this only happens on Windows. "An OS update killed the drivers for my PC". Pure gold.
That's a lot of system problems from a reputable vendor that has total control over the quality of the product.
Remember kids, Apple doesn't build anything - unless there are problems, then they have total control over every part used and production step. at all times.
You're joking, right? Before Tesla the stereotype of an electric car was a nerdy thing with the performance of a golf cart. They completely changed the public perception of electric cars, built vehicles with double the performance and range of the previous best electric cars, getting some of the highest car reviews and satisfaction ratings *ever* given for *any* type of car, and managed to start a brand new car company with a huge valuation, the first new US car company to make it big since the 1930s. Give them some F'ing credit.
Right, I cant imagine how Apple could possibly manage figuring out mass production of exotic materials...
Because that's clearly their field of expertise?
So Tesla basically did to electric cars what RIM (aka Blackberry) did to smartphones. So Apple can't play the role of Apple because...
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Using the force of the United States government vie senate commity is the McCarthy connection.
Odd you didn't complain about Senator McInhofe, who did exactly what you claim now happens. Only he actually did it for real.
How do you figure? Solar panels are pennies on the ten thousand dollar bill next to oil. Fellating Exxon is a thoroughly bipartisan endeavor - Obama has opened up more land to drilling than Bush and Cheney, including the eastern seaboard. He brags that the U.S. is producing more oil and gas than it has the ability to transport to market. Biden's son is a top executive at Ukrainian energy company. BP was allowed to savage the Gulf of Mexico and get away with paying a fraction of the costs of mitigation. Politicians from both parties fall over themselves in the rush to pledge their love of coal.
Government has a heavy bias toward fossil fuels. If there was a bias resulting from government-funded science grants, it would be against climate change, not for it.
Case in point: just look at the GAO Climate Change report, detailing expenditures on "Funding for climate change activities", by far the most money goes to the Dept. of Energy, which of course doesn't spend a penny on actual climate science, but on things like "energy conservation" (ooh, evil) and "Fossil Energy Research and Development "
Yes you read that right. The tax that according to the denialist PR gets wasted on climate research to quite a large extend goes into "Fossil Energy Research".
Nope, its the people who have to listen to the same "experts" (who mostly aren't climate scientists) repeating the same arguments that disagree with the vast majority of actual climate scientists.
"Nope" ??? "Nope"?? I would call that a failure of comprehension.
Yeah. On your part. Poor downtrodden denialist.
and the wall street banks were salivating at the thought of trading carbon credits your point being?
a lot of money to be made on "green" crap
So which climate scientists got funding from Wall Street? As opposed to the non-climate-scientists experts on climate science the oil industry funded?
It isn't the "scientific community" that is making this demand, it is the people that fund the "scientific community"
Nope, its the people who have to listen to the same "experts" (who mostly aren't climate scientists) repeating the same arguments that disagree with the vast majority of actual climate scientists. And they want to know if there is something going on here - like the experts being paid by the same people as those who insist that they know more about climate science than actual climate scientists. You know, Senators like James M. Inhofe and people like the Koch brothers.
It smells like fascism. That's what I'm afraid of. A lot of things lately have smelled like fascism.
He who smelt it...
Yeah, because armies of users come to post on Apple forums to let people know the update's working fine for them. :)
Oh so that's why Windows is perceived as being bad, it actually isnt and it is just that the only people who are vocal are the ones that have problems. Well thanks for clearing that up!
Actually, many Windows users have given up complaining about Windows problems. Some even began complaining about problems in other OSs just so their pains feel less bad.
No, but it is evidence suggesting that the Germans were prepared to use chemical weapons in WWI
Nope, having gas masks means they were prepared to be attacked with chemical weapons.
Perhaps you failed to notice that my source was the Huffington Post.
Huffelpuffle is never a news source, they are an aggregator. And as all aggregators they work GIGO.
That many official published charts of "warming" temperature started in 1979 is an objective fact.
It has to do with the fact that satellite temperature measurements, favoured by denialists because it shows the least warming, started that year. That's why most charts you get to see on your favourite disinformation sources start that year. Most charts actually start about a century before that.
Climate scientists aren't in the business of predicting next years weather. Once you understand that, we can talk.
It shouldn't even indicate that. Consensus has zero to do with truth or even confirmation of theory, scientifically speaking. The majority saying that the moon is made of green cheese does not mean that the moon is actually made of green cheese.
But only the deniers are claiming the moon is made of green cheese.
Of course the $70 Billion spent by the USG from2008-2012 on research to almost exclusively warmist scientists didn't effect the outcomes.
Yeah, that's quite a lot of made up money.
Hmm, what industries could profit from climate change true believers?
How about governments, those who run them, and those tied to and who profit from government? They gain ever more power & control over ever-wider-ranging areas of life and have another excuse to squeeze the marks for more of their wealth.
Strat
Perfectly valid argument - if the utterance of "terrorism" didn't gave the government far more power than Global Warming ever could. IOW stick it where Soon's sunspots don't shine.
Global warming 'laws' and predictions constantly fail.
Hilarious claim in a discussion about Willie Soon - according to whom it should now be way colder than in the 50s.
Though that estimate might be a little high...
"Just before leaving public office in 2001, Gore reported assets of less than $2 million; today, his wealth is estimated at $100 million."
Warning about global warming is a good business to be in it seems...
In 2001, the Koch brothers where worth $ 3.2 billion each. In 2010 $ 17.5 billion. Looks like paying others to deny Global Warming seems to be a better business....
As for Al Gore - he made far from being on the board of Apple than from Global Warming. http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/heres-how-apple-and-the-internet-made-al-gore-rich.html/?a=viewall
Gladly. They linked me to the correct drivers for my laptop after the Windows 8.1 upgrade had trashed them. As I recall there were a bunch of drivers I needed to reinstall since Windows 8.1 had decided to revert to Microsoft stock drivers, and they told me to where to get them. (Which was necessary since by default Samsung uses a driver download program which at the time didn't know what to do with Windows 8.1 and therefore refused to download anything. So in essence they were solving a problem they themselves created.)
Basically I didn't even ask Samsung for help but got it anyway. Try doing that with Apple.
You know why Apple doesn't help people with shit like this? Because this only happens on Windows. "An OS update killed the drivers for my PC". Pure gold.
Anecdotes aside, consider that Apple sells like 25-35 million Macs each year - likely more as time goes on.
And unlike other companies, these are spread over less than a dozen different models.
That's a lot of system problems from a reputable vendor that has total control over the quality of the product.
Remember kids, Apple doesn't build anything - unless there are problems, then they have total control over every part used and production step. at all times.
Here's how Samsung does Online support
Ahhh, so tell us exactly how Samsung fixed your computer via twitter.
You're joking, right? Before Tesla the stereotype of an electric car was a nerdy thing with the performance of a golf cart. They completely changed the public perception of electric cars, built vehicles with double the performance and range of the previous best electric cars, getting some of the highest car reviews and satisfaction ratings *ever* given for *any* type of car, and managed to start a brand new car company with a huge valuation, the first new US car company to make it big since the 1930s. Give them some F'ing credit.
Because that's clearly their field of expertise?
So Tesla basically did to electric cars what RIM (aka Blackberry) did to smartphones. So Apple can't play the role of Apple because ...
Whenever something bad happens, there's usually a lawyer close by. You do the math.
Yeah, all wars are started by lawyers for example...
The funny part is - the original "if apple made a car " troll is very likely older than you.
Here's prior art to your argument: http://www.perou.co.uk/photos/2085.jpg