Because some terrorists would make a world-record RC plane to crash into a building... suuuure. Sorry, your argument doesn't pass the giggle test.
Well, a "toy plane" only half the size would still be big enough to do real damage. Hey, the Greens are scared as hell that terrorists fly a tiny little Cesna into a nuclear power plant.
Since when? Hunting rifles were not that hard to get when I lived there. Pistols sure, but hunting rifles were pretty easy to get.
Sure, all you need is a hunting license. At least 60 hours of theory and 60 hours of praxis for the exam (with a high failure rate) at a cost of several hundred dollars, a liability insurance for hunters, a spotless criminal record. What could be easier.
Considering these folks buy one way airplane tickets, I highly doubt they are that flush.
People with decent money to spend have better things to do with their lives than this.
"These people" also bought flying lessons. They flew all across the US, not to mention Europe and the Middle East.
Now of course it's possible you will try to explain that away with "humour" - admitting that your whole arguments couldn't be taken seriously from the start, wasting all of our time. Thanks for that, you are in fact a master troll.
Yes, I am very aware such things exist. I also know they are out of the price range of your average nutbag.
Even a glow plugged engined thing that can lift a baseball is going to be many hundreds of dollars.
Nor is such a small device likely to be that effective. Flying an RC plane is not easy, not is hitting a small target like a person with one. Explosives in small quantities are also unlikely to do much, since they will be outdoors. This means a shrapnel weapon would have to be used.
Here in reality a $500.308 rifle is a far more useful tool if you want to assassinate people.
Ahh, in "reality", by which you actually mean the US. In Germany you'll have a hard time simply buying a.308 rifle. So nutcases will have to find other weapons of mass destruction.
Don't forget 'detonating it on impact'. One might think impact triggers are easy, but it's been my training that triggers, impact or not, are the trickiest part of bomb making.
This is remote controlled - just add a button that makes it go boom, press it around the time of impact.
Unless the model plane is the size of a 747 or the explosive is anit-matter, how is that a "... state-threatening act of violence." Is Germany in such dire straits that a single model aircraft can topple a whole country?
First of all: here is a difference between the "state" and a country.
Preparation of a serious violent offence endangering the state
(1) Whosoever prepares a serious offence endangering the state shall be liable to imprisonment from six months to ten years. A serious violent offence endangering the state shall mean an offence against life under sections 211 or 212 or against personal freedom under sections 239a or 239b, which under the circumstances is intended to impair and capable of impairing the existence or security of a state or of an international organisation, or to abolish, rob of legal effect or undermine constitutional principles of the Federal Republic of Germany.
Contrary to whatever silly fantasy world you live in, 99.9999% of the population DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT DISASSEMBLING THEIR PHONE. They just use the damn thing.
They use it until they crack the screen; then they want a non-broken phone.
Ahh, so when you are able to disassemble your phone and you have a cracked screen, what happens then? Do you wave your magic phillips wand and boom the crack is gone?
Right, because switching to pentalobe stopped how many people from taking apart an iPhone?
Wouldn't the answer be anyone who didn't have a pentalobe screwdriver? It doesn't permanently prevent anyone determined to get inside an iPhone as they can just buy one of these screwdrivers as they are not in a normal set.
Sure, very few people have a pentalobe driver at home, while many have a philips driver or two. However - will it be small enough to unscrew two 3.6mm (1/7th inch) and back in again?
Google never wanted the data. They would have deleted it immediately when they discovered that bits of random traffic data had been logged along with the SSIDs (which was the bit they were after), except that would have been regarded as destroying evidence. So instead they notified all the relevant authorities and waited for permission and/or orders to delete the data.
Yeah, right. They kept the data only as evidence - but denied they had it. And after the whole thing was settled, and they were told to delete the data "they never wanted" - they didn't. And you think that makes sense?
So you want to convict Google for the stuff that other companies do with private data. I was talking about what Google actual did, not extrapolating from them having the data, and then mixing in what other companies have done with other personal data. That's a remarkable stretch (I refer your 3rd response).
And if you think that what Google did (in your 4th response) was so terrible, you had better break out the tin-foil hat: lots of companies do this. Heck, tons of hobbyists used to do it. Nokia pays courier companies to do it.
Okay, simply explain why they didn't delete it after being ordered to. Why the hell would they keep data they don't need - unless they want to use it.
The cited reference to "unauthorized reception" applies only to intent and disclosure of "contents, sender or addressee." Google's intent was to collect the locations of WiFi Access points, to improve their location services. They had no interest in who was sending what, and there's no indication that the collected data was ever disclosed.
So why did they a) store it, b) for years, c) lie about even collecting it, d) lie about deleting it?
Most infrastructure runs Cisco IOS neither BSD nor Linux.
Sure. But looking at the history of IOS it's not unreasonable to assume that it originally used BSD licensed code, but certainly not GPL licensed code.
Cisco's Router and IOS were based on Stanford's Blue Box and Networking OS, and the Blue Box was basically nothing but the original SUN 1 (Standford University Network) - which ran BSD.
I'll admit that this is just speculation, but it's not baseless.
I have never heard of Windows desktop software struggling with monitor resolution. Please elaborate. Everything is fine here at 2550x1600, why would 3200x1800 suddenly cause 'too many programs' to 'not run properly'?
Because there is a difference between 2550x1600 on a 30" screen and 3200x1800 on 13".
Other mobile platforms might be affected by these deficits as well. Although, we did not analyze other platforms in detail, spot-checks have revealed that default passwords in Windows Phone 8 consist of only 8-digit numbers. As this results in a search space of 108 candidates, attacks on Windows-based hotspot passwords might be practicable. Moreover, while the official version of Android generates strong passwords2, some vendors modified the Wi-Fi related components utilized in their devices and weakened the algorithm of generating default passwords. For instance, some Android-based models of the smart- phone and tablet manufacturer HTC are even shipped with constant default passwords consisting of a static string (1234567890) [26]. However, future studies will be necessary to evaluate the security level of mobile hotspots on other platforms in more detail.
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Because some terrorists would make a world-record RC plane to crash into a building... suuuure. Sorry, your argument doesn't pass the giggle test.
Well, a "toy plane" only half the size would still be big enough to do real damage. Hey, the Greens are scared as hell that terrorists fly a tiny little Cesna into a nuclear power plant.
Since when?
Hunting rifles were not that hard to get when I lived there. Pistols sure, but hunting rifles were pretty easy to get.
Sure, all you need is a hunting license. At least 60 hours of theory and 60 hours of praxis for the exam (with a high failure rate) at a cost of several hundred dollars, a liability insurance for hunters, a spotless criminal record. What could be easier.
Considering these folks buy one way airplane tickets, I highly doubt they are that flush.
People with decent money to spend have better things to do with their lives than this.
"These people" also bought flying lessons. They flew all across the US, not to mention Europe and the Middle East.
Now of course it's possible you will try to explain that away with "humour" - admitting that your whole arguments couldn't be taken seriously from the start, wasting all of our time. Thanks for that, you are in fact a master troll.
Yes, I am very aware such things exist. I also know they are out of the price range of your average nutbag.
Even a glow plugged engined thing that can lift a baseball is going to be many hundreds of dollars.
Nor is such a small device likely to be that effective. Flying an RC plane is not easy, not is hitting a small target like a person with one. Explosives in small quantities are also unlikely to do much, since they will be outdoors. This means a shrapnel weapon would have to be used.
Here in reality a $500 .308 rifle is a far more useful tool if you want to assassinate people.
Ahh, in "reality", by which you actually mean the US. In Germany you'll have a hard time simply buying a .308 rifle. So nutcases will have to find other weapons of mass destruction.
Don't forget 'detonating it on impact'. One might think impact triggers are easy, but it's been my training that triggers, impact or not, are the trickiest part of bomb making.
This is remote controlled - just add a button that makes it go boom, press it around the time of impact.
And if you actually knew explosives and could construct a shaped charge then you could reasonably damage a fairly hard target with one.
Or perhaps an even cooler thing: what about an explosively formed penetrator?
Heck, you don't even need explosives, just fly a RC plane into the engine of a starting airliner.
That's just legal weaseling. The state is not endangered. Period.
Who said it was? Maybe you should learn English, or use Google.
threaten
/THretn/
Verb
State one's intention to take hostile action against someone in retribution for something done or not done.
Express one's intention to harm or kill (someone): "the men threatened the customers with a handgun".
How do you know they don't have a PRISM-like system?
Because the last time they had a major success finding terrorists before they could hit, they got the information from the NSA. Oddly enough the English http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_bomb_plot_in_Germany doesn't mention the NSA's involvement, while the German http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauerland-Gruppe does.
1+ million dollars and the weight of a full sized car. What RC model aircraft are you suggesting that replicates that?
http://videokatalog.dmax.de/Leben/Freizeit/video-Die-Modellbauer-Episode-1-Teil-1-Homepage-Motor-Dmax-Serie-Reportage-Doku-112781.html - aren't US model builders into big things?
They could shut down the BILD HQ for a day or two.
Unlikely. This is the HQ:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axel-Springer-Hochhaus
With an RC plane and whatever it can carry in explosives, you can at best make a mess of the reception area.
Yeah, a plane like that could never carry enough explosives to do real damage.
Unless the model plane is the size of a 747 or the explosive is anit-matter, how is that a "... state-threatening act of violence." Is Germany in such dire straits that a single model aircraft can topple a whole country?
First of all: here is a difference between the "state" and a country.
Second: http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_stgb.html (Translation of the German Criminal Code provided by Prof. Dr. Michael Bohlander)
Section 89a
Preparation of a serious violent offence endangering the state
(1) Whosoever prepares a serious offence endangering the state shall be liable to imprisonment from six months to ten years. A serious violent offence endangering the state shall mean an offence against life under sections 211 or 212 or against personal freedom under sections 239a or 239b, which under the circumstances is intended to impair and capable of impairing the existence or security of a state or of an international organisation, or to abolish, rob of legal effect or undermine constitutional principles of the Federal Republic of Germany.
Of course they didn't deny they had it. *They* were the ones who told the authorities they had it.
Yeah, in La-La-Land. Time for a reality check - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=google+denies+collecting+wifi+data
They use it until they crack the screen; then they want a non-broken phone.
Ahh, so when you are able to disassemble your phone and you have a cracked screen, what happens then? Do you wave your magic phillips wand and boom the crack is gone?
I was just about to say the same things. Wikipedia has more details.
By "has more details" you mean "quotes ifixit.com and articles quoting ifixit.com".
Right, because switching to pentalobe stopped how many people from taking apart an iPhone?
Wouldn't the answer be anyone who didn't have a pentalobe screwdriver? It doesn't permanently prevent anyone determined to get inside an iPhone as they can just buy one of these screwdrivers as they are not in a normal set.
Sure, very few people have a pentalobe driver at home, while many have a philips driver or two. However - will it be small enough to unscrew two 3.6mm (1/7th inch) and back in again?
Google never wanted the data. They would have deleted it immediately when they discovered that bits of random traffic data had been logged along with the SSIDs (which was the bit they were after), except that would have been regarded as destroying evidence. So instead they notified all the relevant authorities and waited for permission and/or orders to delete the data.
Yeah, right. They kept the data only as evidence - but denied they had it. And after the whole thing was settled, and they were told to delete the data "they never wanted" - they didn't. And you think that makes sense?
Hate to break it to you, but lots of people do this. Just go wardriving with a packet analyzer.
So does anyone but Google still have every byte they ever collected during wardriving stored and readily available?
c.f. Apple which basically did the same thing to build their wifi map database
Sure, but unlike Google they aren't basically just like Nazis.
So you want to convict Google for the stuff that other companies do with private data. I was talking about what Google actual did, not extrapolating from them having the data, and then mixing in what other companies have done with other personal data. That's a remarkable stretch (I refer your 3rd response).
And if you think that what Google did (in your 4th response) was so terrible, you had better break out the tin-foil hat: lots of companies do this. Heck, tons of hobbyists used to do it. Nokia pays courier companies to do it.
Okay, simply explain why they didn't delete it after being ordered to. Why the hell would they keep data they don't need - unless they want to use it.
The cited reference to "unauthorized reception" applies only to intent and disclosure of "contents, sender or addressee." Google's intent was to collect the locations of WiFi Access points, to improve their location services. They had no interest in who was sending what, and there's no indication that the collected data was ever disclosed.
So why did they a) store it, b) for years, c) lie about even collecting it, d) lie about deleting it?
Most infrastructure runs Cisco IOS neither BSD nor Linux.
Sure. But looking at the history of IOS it's not unreasonable to assume that it originally used BSD licensed code, but certainly not GPL licensed code.
Cisco's Router and IOS were based on Stanford's Blue Box and Networking OS, and the Blue Box was basically nothing but the original SUN 1 (Standford University Network) - which ran BSD.
I'll admit that this is just speculation, but it's not baseless.
The you can find drivers for the replacement screws at any hardware store or even Walmart, and any computer geek already has a set.
Yup. Right next to their pentalobe driver.
I have never heard of Windows desktop software struggling with monitor resolution. Please elaborate. Everything is fine here at 2550x1600, why would 3200x1800 suddenly cause 'too many programs' to 'not run properly'?
Because there is a difference between 2550x1600 on a 30" screen and 3200x1800 on 13".
Other mobile platforms might be affected by these deficits as well. Although, we did not analyze other platforms in detail, spot-checks have revealed that default passwords in Windows Phone 8 consist of only 8-digit numbers. As this results in a search space of 108 candidates, attacks on Windows-based hotspot passwords might be practicable. Moreover, while the official version of Android generates strong passwords2, some vendors modified the Wi-Fi related components utilized in their devices and weakened the algorithm of generating default passwords. For instance, some Android-based models of the smart- phone and tablet manufacturer HTC are even shipped with constant default passwords consisting of a static string (1234567890) [26]. However, future studies will be necessary to evaluate the security level of mobile hotspots on other platforms in more detail.
Where did I hear that before