That's a nice story. The problem with it is that, in the real world, the Maps app on iOS was maintained (such as it, which was not very much) by Apple. Google wasn't the app supplier, it was the map data provider.
So, if anyone was responsible for the UX experience of the iOS Maps app not keeping up with the UX of the equivalent Android app, it was Apple. (Well, I guess you can blame Google for working more on the Android app than Apple was willing to bother working on the iOS app.)
If Apple's concern was UX rather than continuing Jobs promised nuclear war with Google, they would have spent their resources making UX improvements (and not faced the blowback from dropping popular features that depended on Google's data resources) rather than on purchasing other companies so that they could replace Google as the backend data supplier.
That's a nice story, but it was Google that added the "no turn-by-turn" clause to the license for their map data. Unless you actually believe that Apple didn't know how to add turn-by-turn to their app for as long as they licensed Google map data - and then suddenly had an revelation once they switched. Which reminds me: Wanna buy a bridge?
Look, whatever, the problem here is we users with a significant investment in the apple garden are fucked even if we get a google maps app because its not going to link to the native apps. If i have an address in my adressbook, apple is not going to let me open the direction in the google maps app with one tap. Of course the fuck not. They will send me to their ugly ass bitch fucking botched maps app that will take years to work anyware but the states and the UK and that really is fucking us up.
I didnt hate them. I bought into them like a lamb in the butcher house and im getting fucked and then slaughtered and then eaten.
Apple Maps is now *years* (longer) behind in terms of data, they have a vast area to cover. They totally blew it when they told Google to go take a running jump.
Counterexample: http://anthonydrendel.com/blog/2012/9/24/ios-maps-and-china.html " Check out the difference yourself. The first map is Google Maps on iOS 5. The second is Apple's iOS Maps on iOS 6. This shows the same location just outside of Lijiang, Yunnan. Lijiang is one of the most popular tourist destinations in China. Both Google Maps and iOS Maps covers the center of the city pretty well. As you can see, though, if you move a couple of miles out of the city center, Google Maps becomes pretty useless pretty quickly."
Anecdotally, I don't know of anyone who was affected by this reorganization of Apple's stores to even bother to mention it. On the other hand, EVERYONE I know who has updated to iOS 6 or purchased an iPhone 5 has commented on how fucked the new Maps application is.
Context: He was responding to an article saying Amazon "continues to grow like gangbusters". IOW, he wasn't really comparing Apple with Amazon, he was making fun of an article. Compare this to his article Amazon’s Play "Amazon is, to my eyes, the only company playing in the same league as Apple."... "Bezos made a point, both during the event itself and in interviews afterward, that Amazon is not pursuing King Gillette’s razor and blades business model. They’re not selling these tablets at a loss. But they’re not selling them at a high profit margin, either.
Om Malik argues that Bezos is the inheritor to Steve Jobs’s crown. I agree. Not because Bezos has copied anything Jobs did, but because he has not. What he’s done that is Jobs-like is doggedly pursue, year after year, iteration after iteration, a vision unlike that of any other company — all in the name of making customers happy."
Gee, I wonder if you could write a paragraph with a similar lack of snide. Or even a sentence. And don't even try insight.
Or his various hate filled diatribes on Google and Android? Or how he stated that Android would never overtake the iPhone? And then how he tried to muddy the waters by adding the iPad numbers to claim iOS' superiority? After even that failed, he(and his chums like Siegler) resorted to calling the Apple winner over Android because it takes 80% of the mobile profits!
Funny, how you don't even bother to link to something that wouldn't support your views anyway.
There's other ones like Bing Maps already allowed. Apple's rules are so arbitrary that you never really know what they'll do.
Yeah, its almost as if these "rules" were made up by Apple Haters.
Or that there *are no fixed rules*, and your investment in creating an app is completely at the mercy of the whim (and unknown future business plans) of a single corporate entity.
Or, like for my Galaxy S3, you can have a dock that the charger also plugs into, which provides data and power over the same USB connection
Forgive me for being honest and upfront about the fact the Nexus 7 does in fact offer a separate dock connector, since I was using it as one of my primary examples earlier. You just seemed so fixated on docks...
Anyway, the Nexus 7 can still charge and use data over the same USB connection. The Gear4 AlarmDock does that, for instance. It'll charge while providing audio over USB.
So, about those goal posts?
So to sum up: Apple is evil for not using standard USB, while Samsung proves they could have by using non-standard USB. You ran right into that goalpost, without the ball.
And they couldn't even make it the same thickness as the old iPhone so it would last one day on one charge?
If you want to buy a new phone that is thicker than the previous one just to keep battery time equal, I guess you are stuck with Android. Or maybe a Windows pone.
Oh, the Android Open Accessory protocol? That makes use of standard USB interfaces to connect to external hardware like sensors, speakers, clocks, exercise machines, etc.?
Great news! So which ready to use peripherals can one buy that uses that? Oh, right. None.
Yawn. First of all, lets link to the original article instead of the BGR rumination.
"However, if you want a thinner phone that still takes great photos, if you want a better screen that gives a more accurate representation of your photos, if you want the ability to take photos while shooting video, then taken together, the answer could very well change to yes. In fact, if taking and enjoying photos with your iPhone is one of your primary passions -- if you consider yourself an "iPhoneographer" -- the display alone is worth the upgrade to the iPhone 5."
Oh, and how about the motto of the photo blog http://www.imore.com/photography: "Everything you need to know to take the best pictures imaginable with the iPhone, the best camera you have with you".
I assume Apple had been paying Google something for Google maps which was replaced by Apple maps. Depending how you wan to amortize the R&D, that was a unit BoM savings if Google has been getting a per unit fee.
Yeah, because Apple's solution, the rights to the map data, etc. just appeared out of nowhere without cost. And that's ignoring that it's part of iOS 6, not of the iPhone 5.
Here's a tip: if you think you have a great post to make - think again before writing it. If you want to go for first post, don't try to make a clever post - you'll fail at both.
iFixit's usual thorough analysis reveals that nearly every hardware component has been upgraded or improved, yet is so power efficient that the battery capacity largely remains the same.
No they don't. The Nexus 7's charger is the same amperage/voltage as the iPad charger, last I checked. 5V, 2.1Amp or something like that. Same "10W" charging specs, but over a standard micro-USB cable.
But not when also transferring data - which you conveniently left out of the quote. Because standard USB can't do that, but the dock connector can.
I can hook up a USB gamepad to my Nexus 7 or Samsung Galaxy S3 with it.
Er?
Sorry that I didn't mention the obvious: things like mice, keyboards and storage don't count - because that could already trivially be done with USB1 - which already leaves printers that aren't used with phones over USB.
Of course I was talking of peripherals that gets used with the Dock Connector - because that's what we were talking about.
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That's a nice story. The problem with it is that, in the real world, the Maps app on iOS was maintained (such as it, which was not very much) by Apple. Google wasn't the app supplier, it was the map data provider.
So, if anyone was responsible for the UX experience of the iOS Maps app not keeping up with the UX of the equivalent Android app, it was Apple. (Well, I guess you can blame Google for working more on the Android app than Apple was willing to bother working on the iOS app.)
If Apple's concern was UX rather than continuing Jobs promised nuclear war with Google, they would have spent their resources making UX improvements (and not faced the blowback from dropping popular features that depended on Google's data resources) rather than on purchasing other companies so that they could replace Google as the backend data supplier.
That's a nice story, but it was Google that added the "no turn-by-turn" clause to the license for their map data. Unless you actually believe that Apple didn't know how to add turn-by-turn to their app for as long as they licensed Google map data - and then suddenly had an revelation once they switched. Which reminds me: Wanna buy a bridge?
Look, whatever, the problem here is we users with a significant investment in the apple garden are fucked even if we get a google maps app because its not going to link to the native apps. If i have an address in my adressbook, apple is not going to let me open the direction in the google maps app with one tap. Of course the fuck not. They will send me to their ugly ass bitch fucking botched maps app that will take years to work anyware but the states and the UK and that really is fucking us up.
I didnt hate them. I bought into them like a lamb in the butcher house and im getting fucked and then slaughtered and then eaten.
Hey, at least i got fucked.
http://gps.about.com/od/mobilephonegps/tp/Iphone-Gps-Navigation-Apps-Top-Ten.htm - looks like several navigation apps have "address book integration". If Google can't do it, that says a lot about Google, not about Apple.
Apple Maps is now *years* (longer) behind in terms of data, they have a vast area to cover. They totally blew it when they told Google to go take a running jump.
Counterexample: http://anthonydrendel.com/blog/2012/9/24/ios-maps-and-china.html " Check out the difference yourself. The first map is Google Maps on iOS 5. The second is Apple's iOS Maps on iOS 6. This shows the same location just outside of Lijiang, Yunnan. Lijiang is one of the most popular tourist destinations in China. Both Google Maps and iOS Maps covers the center of the city pretty well. As you can see, though, if you move a couple of miles out of the city center, Google Maps becomes pretty useless pretty quickly."
Anecdotally, I don't know of anyone who was affected by this reorganization of Apple's stores to even bother to mention it. On the other hand, EVERYONE I know who has updated to iOS 6 or purchased an iPhone 5 has commented on how fucked the new Maps application is.
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So nobody then.
You mean read his stupid crap snarky sneering comparisons on Amazon's earnings vs. Apple's ?
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/07/27/amzn-profit-correction
Context: He was responding to an article saying Amazon "continues to grow like gangbusters". IOW, he wasn't really comparing Apple with Amazon, he was making fun of an article. Compare this to his article Amazon’s Play "Amazon is, to my eyes, the only company playing in the same league as Apple." ... "Bezos made a point, both during the event itself and in interviews afterward, that Amazon is not pursuing King Gillette’s razor and blades business model. They’re not selling these tablets at a loss. But they’re not selling them at a high profit margin, either.
Om Malik argues that Bezos is the inheritor to Steve Jobs’s crown. I agree. Not because Bezos has copied anything Jobs did, but because he has not. What he’s done that is Jobs-like is doggedly pursue, year after year, iteration after iteration, a vision unlike that of any other company — all in the name of making customers happy."
Gee, I wonder if you could write a paragraph with a similar lack of snide. Or even a sentence. And don't even try insight.
Or calling Apple's competitors turds?
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/08/01/nokia-nail-polish
Reading ability: No, he didn't.
Or his various hate filled diatribes on Google and Android? Or how he stated that Android would never overtake the iPhone? And then how he tried to muddy the waters by adding the iPad numbers to claim iOS' superiority? After even that failed, he(and his chums like Siegler) resorted to calling the Apple winner over Android because it takes 80% of the mobile profits!
Funny, how you don't even bother to link to something that wouldn't support your views anyway.
There's other ones like Bing Maps already allowed. Apple's rules are so arbitrary that you never really know what they'll do.
Yeah, its almost as if these "rules" were made up by Apple Haters.
Or that there *are no fixed rules*, and your investment in creating an app is completely at the mercy of the whim (and unknown future business plans) of a single corporate entity.
Or that that is also made up by an Apple Hater.
So you're being purposely dense and making crap up, too?
Can you at least reference what you're talking about? What wires in my USB cable "have nothing to do with USB"?
I won't waste my time searching for stuff you won't read anyway.
There's other ones like Bing Maps already allowed. Apple's rules are so arbitrary that you never really know what they'll do.
Yeah, its almost as if these "rules" were made up by Apple Haters.
Eventually, iOS users who don't want to wait for Apple-Google parity will be able to download native a native version of Google's maps
You mean an application that duplicates the functionality of a built-in app?
You really think Apple is going to allow this in the iOS store?
No, he means a Google powered solution with turn by turn. And better China covering, etc.
Are you being purposely dense?
What part of what Samsung did is non-standard USB?
The part that isn't in the USB standard - like using wires in the USB cable that have nothing to do with USB.
The earwax of GNU Fanatics he demanded it to be made of is hard to store due to being so corrosive.
Well, here's an obvious example: An Alarm Clock.
Yeah, and it must be free, because they can't even tell me a price. Or they don't fucking have any to sell.
On the next line?
Forgive me for being honest and upfront about the fact the Nexus 7 does in fact offer a separate dock connector, since I was using it as one of my primary examples earlier. You just seemed so fixated on docks...
Anyway, the Nexus 7 can still charge and use data over the same USB connection. The Gear4 AlarmDock does that, for instance. It'll charge while providing audio over USB.
So, about those goal posts?
So to sum up: Apple is evil for not using standard USB, while Samsung proves they could have by using non-standard USB. You ran right into that goalpost, without the ball.
Display is LG. Flash is mostly Hynix and Toshiiba.
Yeah, but the software is Samsung, and everyone knows that's what really counts.
The CPU is manufactured by Samsung, and that's what really counts for Fandroids.
And they couldn't even make it the same thickness as the old iPhone so it would last one day on one charge?
If you want to buy a new phone that is thicker than the previous one just to keep battery time equal, I guess you are stuck with Android. Or maybe a Windows pone.
Oh, the Android Open Accessory protocol? That makes use of standard USB interfaces to connect to external hardware like sensors, speakers, clocks, exercise machines, etc.?
Great news! So which ready to use peripherals can one buy that uses that? Oh, right. None.
Supporting a standard USB plug does not rule out a separate dock connector, which you can see with the Nexus 7.
Where the fuck did that goalpost go?
Yawn. First of all, lets link to the original article instead of the BGR rumination.
"However, if you want a thinner phone that still takes great photos, if you want a better screen that gives a more accurate representation of your photos, if you want the ability to take photos while shooting video, then taken together, the answer could very well change to yes. In fact, if taking and enjoying photos with your iPhone is one of your primary passions -- if you consider yourself an "iPhoneographer" -- the display alone is worth the upgrade to the iPhone 5."
Oh, and how about the motto of the photo blog http://www.imore.com/photography: "Everything you need to know to take the best pictures imaginable with the iPhone, the best camera you have with you".
I assume Apple had been paying Google something for Google maps which was replaced by Apple maps. Depending how you wan to amortize the R&D, that was a unit BoM savings if Google has been getting a per unit fee.
Yeah, because Apple's solution, the rights to the map data, etc. just appeared out of nowhere without cost. And that's ignoring that it's part of iOS 6, not of the iPhone 5.
Here's a tip: if you think you have a great post to make - think again before writing it. If you want to go for first post, don't try to make a clever post - you'll fail at both.
You'd have to actually change something to increase cost.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/09/iphone-5-deconstructed-packed-with-power-efficient-parts/
iFixit's usual thorough analysis reveals that nearly every hardware component has been upgraded or improved, yet is so power efficient that the battery capacity largely remains the same.
No they don't. The Nexus 7's charger is the same amperage/voltage as the iPad charger, last I checked. 5V, 2.1Amp or something like that. Same "10W" charging specs, but over a standard micro-USB cable.
But not when also transferring data - which you conveniently left out of the quote. Because standard USB can't do that, but the dock connector can.
USB-OTG is a standard.
I can hook up a USB gamepad to my Nexus 7 or Samsung Galaxy S3 with it.
Er?
Sorry that I didn't mention the obvious: things like mice, keyboards and storage don't count - because that could already trivially be done with USB1 - which already leaves printers that aren't used with phones over USB.
Of course I was talking of peripherals that gets used with the Dock Connector - because that's what we were talking about.
It is anti-competitive to take 30% of the revenue of every 3rd party application for a device.
... if you are Apple, not if you are Goole or Amazon. Apparently.
"neither Apple nor Verizon are keen to admit" "Verizon support is apparently confirming to customers that the device is unlocked"
Fuck, why bother?
And I already knew you didn't have a valid argument before you did else you wouldn't have claimed USB is so kewl.