Yeah, right "unredacted" documents suddenly show they say the exact opposite of before - but why Samsung didn't show them in court remains a "mystery", it were originally theirs (just like the prior art they couldn't hand over in time - a looong time). Somehow nobody noticed that Apple had the "un" blacked in "We must make something more unlike the iPhone"
Are you fucking kidding me?
But hey, PJ proves it - by selectively only quoting what fits her agenda. And what has actually been in the "redacted" documents all along.
Look at what was Acorn Computers - they were doing badly with their actual computer sales which was the core of their business and ended up disappearing, but one of their subsidiaries (Arm holdings) is now doing very well by licensing out their designs.
Funny that without Apple there would be no ARM Holdings.
Ahh? Let's search Slashdot just for "jobs", click on "many more" until we hit September 2011, and ignore that it's more than a year, more than Steve (actually millions of jobs), more than actual headlines - and count the stories. 200. Barely over 1 every other day, so certainly "Steve Jobs has been in the headlines [of Slashdot] every freaking day since he died" is wrong.
Just goes to show that the only ones still under the RDF are the Hateboys.
Here's another story that didn't hit the front page:
Apple stock spanked for low iPhone 5 sales Only days after Apple (AAPL) began to put its new iPhone 5 into customers' hands, the company's stock has taken a beating. The reason doesn't have to do with Apple's disappointing mapping software, or even the reports of new iPhones being damaged right out of the box.
Instead, investors have expressed disappointment in how many iPhone 5 units sold in the first weekend.
You mean because it didn't sell twice as many as the iPhone 4S as they expected after they heard of the record pre-orders (as opposed to after the introduction where they predicted it would be a huge flop - just like they said about the 4S)? While being confused how to count those pre-orders not yet shipped?
Just shows that if there's something dumber than a Fandroid, it's a stock market analyst.
You know what, you're a fucking moron. The document that contains that line is the rules. The ones you've claimed don't exist and are "only made up by Apple haters". So fuck you.
I never claimed that the rules don' exist, you lying piece of shit. I said you kept making up rules. How can one tell? They aren't in the fucking document you either still haven't read, or are too fucking stupid to tell what the rules are and what is the introduction.
Ask Osama about his experience in international affairs.
Killing Bin Laden was indeed a military and intelligence coup, but in his success he is indebted to others. (He didn't build that, at least not alone.)
For one thing, it apparently would not have happened without those infamous enhanced interrogation techniques — “torture,” according to critics of the Bush administration.
The enhanced interrogation techniques reportedly led to identification of the courier who eventually led our forces to bin Laden’s hiding place. Critics of waterboarding and other enhanced interrogation techniques assured us that “torture” could not produce reliable information.
Ahh. Reported by whom? Of course former members of the Bush administration. There is no single evidence that Osama was found based on "enhanced interrogation techniques", we'll have to take the torturer's words for it.
Let me quote the exact line Apple uses in the rules - you know, that document you refuse to believe exists.
"We will reject Apps for any content or behavior that we believe is over the line. What line, you ask? Well, as a Supreme Court Justice once said, "I'll know it when I see it". And we think that you will also know it when you cross it."
What the fuck does that even mean? It's basically "we'll also reject whatever we feel like". For completeness, it should be understood that Microsoft has a similar document for Windows Phone - though they have explicitly opted not to an include an "or whatever" clause like Apple has.
Of course that quote is not part of the rules, its part of the introduction to the rules. And if you can't fucking understand what it means, you're too dumb to write a decent app anyway. The fact that you can't find the actual rules just further proves that.
6. Copy & paste. Apple took forever to deliver it, but it works really well. Android has had it forever but it's a kludge to the point that I don't use it.
Via Gruber comes a link to some interesting research by Jason Matheson that—on the surface—shows how poor the data provided by iOS 6’s Maps app for the Canadian province of Ontario.
This caught my attention for two reasons; the first is that I also live in Ontario, and my experience with the new Maps has, so far, been generally quite good. The second its that Matheson uses a reasonably objective test to see how good (or bad) Maps actually is at finding places in Ontario, which opens up a few interesting possibilities.
The highlights
This is a really long post, although it was fun to write, so here are the important points upfront:
Google data isn’t much better than Apple data, at least as far as this test is concerned
Google always returns a result, while Apple only seems to return results when they are a precise match, possibly explaining why the latter’s data appears to be less complete
This test doesn’t really tell us anything about how accurate the maps are, however, both because of the small data set, and because of the test’s nature
"Check out the difference yourself. The first map is Google Maps on iOS 5. The second is Apple's iOS Maps on iOS 6. This shows the same location just outside of Lijiang, Yunnan. Lijiang is one of the most popular tourist destinations in China. Both Google Maps and iOS Maps covers the center of the city pretty well. As you can see, though, if you move a couple of miles out of the city center, Google Maps becomes pretty useless pretty quickly."
The whole reason this is an issue is because those small towns you have never been to are on all physical maps and on Google Maps. They are ALL ON the official Ministry of transportation Road Map: http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/traveller/map/
Wrong. First entry on list "Aberfoyle" is not on Map 2 like claimed - at least you can't see it. Just like on Google Maps it is identified as Puslinch. So much for "ALL".
A spike of emulation suicides after a widely publicized suicide is known as the Werther effect, following Goethe's novel "The Sorrows of Young Werther".
My understanding is that they attempted to put it on a 5 second delay, but the delay didn't kick in. So it was live, and by the time they knew to cut it, it was too late.
The questions remains: why did they air that chase anyway? Because its journalism? Or because its sensationalism? Did they show it because they thought the guy would just stop the car and surrender, or because they hoped for some nice crashes (where you could pretend that nobody died) that they should over and over again, spinning it off into some Fox reality show? Sure, other channels would (or actually) have done the same - but its still not really news.
Google gets data from automated analysis of Street View photos. Road markings, building numbers and the location of entrances, street signs, barriers that prevent you walking a certain way, areas lacking pavements (side walks in US English), parking spaces etc.
Google doesn't just map the world, it understands it. It can provide walking directions that include navigation within buildings, telling which escalator to take or where the toilets are. It knows where the entrance to a building is rather than just where the post code says it approximately is. The latest version of Maps for Android includes navigation aids for blind people based on this data, which while still beta shows just how powerful it is.
Since no other company has sent cars round to gather that data no-one else has it, and at best it will take Apple years to duplicate the effort.
So why is Google Maps so bad? It certainly isn't as perfect as you pretend it is; considering its age, it should be.
There's other ones like Bing Maps already allowed. Apple's rules are so arbitrary that you never really know what they'll do.
Yeah, its almost as if these "rules" were made up by Apple Haters.
Or that there *are no fixed rules*, and your investment in creating an app is completely at the mercy of the whim (and unknown future business plans) of a single corporate entity.
Or that that is also made up by an Apple Hater.
There are, of course, *multiple* examples of rejections available if you look around:
So? Did I claim there were no rejections? Just that those rejections follow Apple's existing rules, not the ones you keep making up.
Slashdot Mirror
Yeah, right "unredacted" documents suddenly show they say the exact opposite of before - but why Samsung didn't show them in court remains a "mystery", it were originally theirs (just like the prior art they couldn't hand over in time - a looong time). Somehow nobody noticed that Apple had the "un" blacked in "We must make something more unlike the iPhone"
Are you fucking kidding me?
But hey, PJ proves it - by selectively only quoting what fits her agenda. And what has actually been in the "redacted" documents all along.
Look at what was Acorn Computers - they were doing badly with their actual computer sales which was the core of their business and ended up disappearing, but one of their subsidiaries (Arm holdings) is now doing very well by licensing out their designs.
Funny that without Apple there would be no ARM Holdings.
Actually, I was referring to Slashdot.
Ahh? Let's search Slashdot just for "jobs", click on "many more" until we hit September 2011, and ignore that it's more than a year, more than Steve (actually millions of jobs), more than actual headlines - and count the stories. 200. Barely over 1 every other day, so certainly "Steve Jobs has been in the headlines [of Slashdot] every freaking day since he died" is wrong.
Just goes to show that the only ones still under the RDF are the Hateboys.
And added nothing of value.
It's like your posts are always answers to themselves. Every single time. How do you do that?
Good point.
Here's another story that didn't hit the front page:
Apple stock spanked for low iPhone 5 sales
Only days after Apple (AAPL) began to put its new iPhone 5 into customers' hands, the company's stock has taken a beating. The reason doesn't have to do with Apple's disappointing mapping software, or even the reports of new iPhones being damaged right out of the box.
Instead, investors have expressed disappointment in how many iPhone 5 units sold in the first weekend.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505124_162-57521414/apple-stock-spanked-for-low-iphone-5-sales/
You mean because it didn't sell twice as many as the iPhone 4S as they expected after they heard of the record pre-orders (as opposed to after the introduction where they predicted it would be a huge flop - just like they said about the 4S)? While being confused how to count those pre-orders not yet shipped?
Just shows that if there's something dumber than a Fandroid, it's a stock market analyst.
You know what, you're a fucking moron. The document that contains that line is the rules. The ones you've claimed don't exist and are "only made up by Apple haters". So fuck you.
I never claimed that the rules don' exist, you lying piece of shit. I said you kept making up rules. How can one tell? They aren't in the fucking document you either still haven't read, or are too fucking stupid to tell what the rules are and what is the introduction.
Ask Osama about his experience in international affairs.
Killing Bin Laden was indeed a military and intelligence coup, but in his success he is indebted to others. (He didn't build that, at least not alone.)
To Get Bin Laden, Obama Relied on Policies He Decried - By Michael Barone
The president deserves credit—but so does his predecessor.
For one thing, it apparently would not have happened without those infamous enhanced interrogation techniques — “torture,” according to critics of the Bush administration.
The enhanced interrogation techniques reportedly led to identification of the courier who eventually led our forces to bin Laden’s hiding place. Critics of waterboarding and other enhanced interrogation techniques assured us that “torture” could not produce reliable information.
Ahh. Reported by whom? Of course former members of the Bush administration. There is no single evidence that Osama was found based on "enhanced interrogation techniques", we'll have to take the torturer's words for it.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/03/osama-bin-laden-was-not-caught-because-of-torture-but-in-spite-of-it.html
Let me quote the exact line Apple uses in the rules - you know, that document you refuse to believe exists.
"We will reject Apps for any content or behavior that we believe is over the line. What line, you ask? Well, as a Supreme Court Justice once said, "I'll know it when I see it". And we think that you will also know it when you cross it."
What the fuck does that even mean? It's basically "we'll also reject whatever we feel like". For completeness, it should be understood that Microsoft has a similar document for Windows Phone - though they have explicitly opted not to an include an "or whatever" clause like Apple has.
Of course that quote is not part of the rules, its part of the introduction to the rules. And if you can't fucking understand what it means, you're too dumb to write a decent app anyway. The fact that you can't find the actual rules just further proves that.
A solution to both the iOS 6 map problem and iPhone V1 copy/paste problem is to simple: skip the first revision of a significant iteration.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/what-android-can-learn-from-the-iphone-os-updated/6991
6. Copy & paste. Apple took forever to deliver it, but it works really well. Android has had it forever but it's a kludge to the point that I don't use it.
http://vore.cc/post/32503374905/old-maps-vs-new-maps
Via Gruber comes a link to some interesting research by Jason Matheson that—on the surface—shows how poor the data provided by iOS 6’s Maps app for the Canadian province of Ontario.
This caught my attention for two reasons; the first is that I also live in Ontario, and my experience with the new Maps has, so far, been generally quite good. The second its that Matheson uses a reasonably objective test to see how good (or bad) Maps actually is at finding places in Ontario, which opens up a few interesting possibilities.
The highlights
This is a really long post, although it was fun to write, so here are the important points upfront:
Google data isn’t much better than Apple data, at least as far as this test is concerned
Google always returns a result, while Apple only seems to return results when they are a precise match, possibly explaining why the latter’s data appears to be less complete
This test doesn’t really tell us anything about how accurate the maps are, however, both because of the small data set, and because of the test’s nature
Asia is very poor. Hong Kong and China detail is bad in the extreme ... you could very easily get lost on a trip across the street from your hotel.
http://anthonydrendel.com/blog/2012/9/24/ios-maps-and-china.html
"Check out the difference yourself. The first map is Google Maps on iOS 5. The second is Apple's iOS Maps on iOS 6. This shows the same location just outside of Lijiang, Yunnan. Lijiang is one of the most popular tourist destinations in China. Both Google Maps and iOS Maps covers the center of the city pretty well. As you can see, though, if you move a couple of miles out of the city center, Google Maps becomes pretty useless pretty quickly."
The whole reason this is an issue is because those small towns you have never been to are on all physical maps and on Google Maps. They are ALL ON the official Ministry of transportation Road Map: http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/traveller/map/
Wrong. First entry on list "Aberfoyle" is not on Map 2 like claimed - at least you can't see it. Just like on Google Maps it is identified as Puslinch. So much for "ALL".
For mapping the data IS the product. If your data sucks, your product sucks. Regardless of how nicely it's presented.
Finally somebody who admits that Google Maps sucks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copycat_suicide
A spike of emulation suicides after a widely publicized suicide is known as the Werther effect, following Goethe's novel "The Sorrows of Young Werther".
That novel is from 1774, so its nothing new.
My understanding is that they attempted to put it on a 5 second delay, but the delay didn't kick in. So it was live, and by the time they knew to cut it, it was too late.
The questions remains: why did they air that chase anyway? Because its journalism? Or because its sensationalism? Did they show it because they thought the guy would just stop the car and surrender, or because they hoped for some nice crashes (where you could pretend that nobody died) that they should over and over again, spinning it off into some Fox reality show? Sure, other channels would (or actually) have done the same - but its still not really news.
I haven't quite decided whether you're an Apple shill, a Microsoft shill, or just a paranoid schizophrenic.
It's clear that you are a Fandroid - the question is just if you also get paid for it.
Google gets data from automated analysis of Street View photos. Road markings, building numbers and the location of entrances, street signs, barriers that prevent you walking a certain way, areas lacking pavements (side walks in US English), parking spaces etc.
Google doesn't just map the world, it understands it. It can provide walking directions that include navigation within buildings, telling which escalator to take or where the toilets are. It knows where the entrance to a building is rather than just where the post code says it approximately is. The latest version of Maps for Android includes navigation aids for blind people based on this data, which while still beta shows just how powerful it is.
Since no other company has sent cars round to gather that data no-one else has it, and at best it will take Apple years to duplicate the effort.
So why is Google Maps so bad? It certainly isn't as perfect as you pretend it is; considering its age, it should be.
Take this for example: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=from:Helvetiastra%C3%9Fe++to:Neuweg&saddr=Helvetiastra%C3%9Fe&daddr=Neuweg&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=49.911426,8.495736&spn=0.007724,0.016587&sll=49.91143,8.49611&sspn=0.007724,0.016587&geocode=FXST-QIdJ6uBAClJx22sf529RzFg_u0nZPFRuA%3BFVyT-QIdTY6BACn9jIaseZ29RzFhgnF51UlmHA&t=m&z=16. In this tiny area, the routing first takes a long needless detour, then through a short stretch that can only be used by busses, and has been since it was finished. If I tell it to not go there, it sends me over factory property, with the far end usually closed by a gate. Google should know that. I can accept that it still doesn't know the underpass on the railroad station has been going through to the other side for almost a year. The placing of the stores is wildly off. And local transit information is non-existant.
Yes. They bought the full rights to TomTom's maps along with about 20 other mapping company's data.
Minor nitpick: to the mapping data, not the maps.
So you continue making up rules for Apple.
Nobody? I very seriously regret upgrading the iOS on my iPod Touch.
So why did you? Did you not read any reviews?
So you actually pretend that Google Maps is bugs free?
So you agree that Google is Dr. Evil.
There's other ones like Bing Maps already allowed. Apple's rules are so arbitrary that you never really know what they'll do.
Yeah, its almost as if these "rules" were made up by Apple Haters.
Or that there *are no fixed rules*, and your investment in creating an app is completely at the mercy of the whim (and unknown future business plans) of a single corporate entity.
Or that that is also made up by an Apple Hater.
There are, of course, *multiple* examples of rejections available if you look around:
So? Did I claim there were no rejections? Just that those rejections follow Apple's existing rules, not the ones you keep making up.
In other words, you're full of crap, and you know I'm right.
Yes, you are full of crap, and I am right. It*'s called MHL.
One wonders what WOULD have been acceptable terms for apple.
You mean money isn't good enough for Google any more?