All spammers could claim the same "freedom of speech" defence.
Fortunately the world is not quite stupid enough to accept that as a valid excuse for what is very clearly unsolicited advertising.
http://www.sci-tech-today.com/...
MARCH 03 2008
The Virginia Supreme Court has upheld the nation's first felony spam conviction. The ruling Friday decided Virginia's antispamming law does not infringe on the First Amendment right to free speech.
I don't think the xServe and xSan sold very well. After all, had they been runaway successes, I doubt Apple would have discontinued them. No public corporation is going to throw away easy money "just because".
Just because what? Because it has enough highly successful and profitable products and services, that dropping one slightly less profitable product that other companies would kill for, simply because putting the resources from that product into the even more profitable products actually makes sense?
People like you don't understand just how big and profitable Apple is.
A strong dollar also reduces manufacturing costs, since manufacturing is overseas. This improves margins. I'm not seeing the issue.
You are assuming that Apple pays for manufacturing in local currency instead of Dollars. Since you basically also admit that you have no clue how Apple operates, it's safe to claim you are wrong.
you do realize that probably does not say what you think it does right?
Really other than ag we have new papers (bike routes), actors, self employed (mom and pop stores)
Those few exceptions does not cancel out the general rule.
Funny how you totally ignore agriculture, where most restriction on child labor (including those on dangerous work and work hours) do not apply. And no matter what the agriculture lobby say, many of the kids are not working on their family farms (not to mention that we wouldn't accept kids working at a "family mine"). https://www.osha.gov/dsg/topic...
People with strong science supporting their argument don't need to link their opponents with holocaust deniers, as every climate change fnantic is known to do.
Yeah you are right, they shouldn't call you "deniers", but simply "morons". That way you can't pretend to be likened to "Holocaust Morons".
You do realize that none of the climate change models have been better at predicting the climate this century than the null hypothesis, right?
* for values of "this century" starting with 1998.
There is a good reason why climatologist always look at time-frames of at least 30 years, anything below isn't expected to be statistically significant.
And yet, in fields dominated by women (education, childcare, nursing, human resources) we see practically zero push for diversity in order to hire more men.
Let me guess: you got your job because of a push to hire more blind people.
You clearly don't understand the concept of ruling.
You clearly don't understand the concept of RTFA. You should try that before you look any dumber. The whole lot of you.
Key segments from TFA:
European Commission investigation seen concluding by March
If the Commission decides to enforce a tougher accounting standard, Apple may owe taxes
There has been no ruling yet. Period. And if that ruling comes, (and if that ruling actually comes out as expected - it still may not) it means the Irish tax laws will have to be changed retroactively. To be fair, that information can only be found in better articles. Like this (older) one or this
And why would a company pay 30% of it's revenue as tax? What if their margin is only 5% or 6%? Organizations don't pay taxes on revenue but on profit.
Because years ago, someone decided that instead of "profit", "net revenue" was a better term to use. There is probably some technical difference between "net revenue" and "profit", but the term is confusing to many.
In this case, I think that the GP means 30% of net revenue.
Well, then he should have said so, because there sure as hell is a difference between "revenue" and "net revenue".
As many as it takes to discourage requests from the citizens.
You are ignoring that this request isn't coming from citizens, but from a company that tries to fill its programming with COPS like footage without having to pay a film crew to do it.
Seriously where did you go to get those ridiculous statements? The laws didn't change along the way.
Exactly. They didn't change - yet. That's why "Apple may owe tax after ruling (which hasn't happened yet)". Gees, how fucking difficult is understanding that?
Taking tax advice from you guys is a sure way to get in touch with the law.
I guess it didn't enter into their thinking that if those loopholes really existed, the European companies would be paying less tax. Why would Apple think it would pay less local tax than the locals? It seems like an irrational expectation.
What makes you think that the big European companies pay more taxes than Apple? E.g. Fiat has been ruled to pay to little taxes in Europe because they shelter in Luxembourg.
Tim Cook says Apple pays every tax dollar it owes. Maybe the key word is dollar here. He never said Apple pays every euro it owes!
Errm, TFA doesn't say anything about "owing" money, but that it could in the future owe back-taxes because Ireland didn't ask for enough taxes.
Anyway, if you think this is bad news for Apple, think what it means for other companies (mentioned in TFA, read it) who will have a much harder time paying their back-taxes, not to mention the IRS, who will get less taxes if Apple ever brings home their foreign money.
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The problem with your argument is that Apple's profit margin has remained constant despite a 20% increase in the value of the dollar vs. the Euro
Actually that's a problem with your argument . Funny you can't see that either.
All spammers could claim the same "freedom of speech" defence.
Fortunately the world is not quite stupid enough to accept that as a valid excuse for what is very clearly unsolicited advertising.
http://www.sci-tech-today.com/...
MARCH 03 2008
The Virginia Supreme Court has upheld the nation's first felony spam conviction. The ruling Friday decided Virginia's antispamming law does not infringe on the First Amendment right to free speech.
Seems like freedom of speech to me
Funny, that's exactly what the SPAMers and telemarketers keep saying. Doesn't usually work in the US either.
I don't think the xServe and xSan sold very well. After all, had they been runaway successes, I doubt Apple would have discontinued them. No public corporation is going to throw away easy money "just because".
Just because what? Because it has enough highly successful and profitable products and services, that dropping one slightly less profitable product that other companies would kill for, simply because putting the resources from that product into the even more profitable products actually makes sense?
People like you don't understand just how big and profitable Apple is.
Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder.
I laugh because you think an explanation to stupid Wall Street analysts was a complaint - thus proving you are dumber than a Wall Street analyst.
A strong dollar also reduces manufacturing costs, since manufacturing is overseas. This improves margins. I'm not seeing the issue.
You are assuming that Apple pays for manufacturing in local currency instead of Dollars. Since you basically also admit that you have no clue how Apple operates, it's safe to claim you are wrong.
Right, because China's economy has to stay a 1950s replica.
Well, the US exported its production capacity there for that reason.
And yet, America's emissions CONTINUE TO FALL.
False.
you do realize that probably does not say what you think it does right?
Really other than ag we have new papers (bike routes), actors, self employed (mom and pop stores)
Those few exceptions does not cancel out the general rule.
Funny how you totally ignore agriculture, where most restriction on child labor (including those on dangerous work and work hours) do not apply. And no matter what the agriculture lobby say, many of the kids are not working on their family farms (not to mention that we wouldn't accept kids working at a "family mine"). https://www.osha.gov/dsg/topic...
People with strong science supporting their argument don't need to link their opponents with holocaust deniers, as every climate change fnantic is known to do.
Yeah you are right, they shouldn't call you "deniers", but simply "morons". That way you can't pretend to be likened to "Holocaust Morons".
Actually, I thought it was because Pluto hadn't cleared its orbit.
A dinosaur astronomer could say the same thing about the Earth.
Hint: "cleared its orbit" is not the same as "can't be hit by objects not in its orbit".
We don't have to go into the future: There never was a pause.
There is no "pause". No need to find a reason apart from "the deniers need to see one".
You do realize that none of the climate change models have been better at predicting the climate this century than the null hypothesis, right?
* for values of "this century" starting with 1998.
There is a good reason why climatologist always look at time-frames of at least 30 years, anything below isn't expected to be statistically significant.
What if Apple loses their shine and people start saying, "This iPhone is just an overpriced Android lookalike?" They could fall very quickly.
If Apple suddenly didn't sell a single iPhone anymore, they'd still have as much revenue as Microsoft has.
I don't see Google throwing around millions of dollars to train girls how to be welders.
I don't see them spending a single cent for males to be welders either. If that's the best you can do...
And yet, in fields dominated by women (education, childcare, nursing, human resources) we see practically zero push for diversity in order to hire more men.
Let me guess: you got your job because of a push to hire more blind people.
EPCOT as envisioned by Walt Disney was to be an actual city where people would live and work.
And coincidently, Walt was also worried that Communists may get into the city. He became a little paranoid about them after the animator's strike.
You clearly don't understand the concept of ruling.
You clearly don't understand the concept of RTFA. You should try that before you look any dumber. The whole lot of you.
Key segments from TFA:
European Commission investigation seen concluding by March
If the Commission decides to enforce a tougher accounting standard, Apple may owe taxes
There has been no ruling yet. Period. And if that ruling comes, (and if that ruling actually comes out as expected - it still may not) it means the Irish tax laws will have to be changed retroactively. To be fair, that information can only be found in better articles. Like this (older) one or this
Why should you be taxed on revenue? You should be taxed on profit.
Well, what about Amazon? They have a huge revenue but usually very little if any profit. Yet they use public infrastructure like no other company.
Because years ago, someone decided that instead of "profit", "net revenue" was a better term to use. There is probably some technical difference between "net revenue" and "profit", but the term is confusing to many. In this case, I think that the GP means 30% of net revenue.
Well, then he should have said so, because there sure as hell is a difference between "revenue" and "net revenue".
How many workers does it take to do this?
As many as it takes to discourage requests from the citizens.
You are ignoring that this request isn't coming from citizens, but from a company that tries to fill its programming with COPS like footage without having to pay a film crew to do it.
Seriously where did you go to get those ridiculous statements? The laws didn't change along the way.
Exactly. They didn't change - yet. That's why "Apple may owe tax after ruling (which hasn't happened yet)". Gees, how fucking difficult is understanding that?
Taking tax advice from you guys is a sure way to get in touch with the law.
I guess it didn't enter into their thinking that if those loopholes really existed, the European companies would be paying less tax. Why would Apple think it would pay less local tax than the locals? It seems like an irrational expectation.
What makes you think that the big European companies pay more taxes than Apple? E.g. Fiat has been ruled to pay to little taxes in Europe because they shelter in Luxembourg.
Tim Cook says Apple pays every tax dollar it owes. Maybe the key word is dollar here. He never said Apple pays every euro it owes!
Errm, TFA doesn't say anything about "owing" money, but that it could in the future owe back-taxes because Ireland didn't ask for enough taxes.
Anyway, if you think this is bad news for Apple, think what it means for other companies (mentioned in TFA, read it) who will have a much harder time paying their back-taxes, not to mention the IRS, who will get less taxes if Apple ever brings home their foreign money.