I kind of doubt that someone not buying a phone to not "fund slavery" in China will happily opt to buy one that funds "slavery" in say, Vietnam instead. Just a hunch, though.:)
That said, I only heard that only processes that are cheaper to relocate (like clothes) are being moved so far? Though it is only a matter of time if the labour costs in China keep increasing...
I've heard they got EVERYTHING surveillance'd with the Olympics being there and whatnot, but I was never really sure how much of it is media hype and how much is really true. Never really believed they could truly monitor everything, maybe I'm being naive.
Heh, the odd feeling when even the government subscribes to the motto "don't fix what ain't broken". Quite the comfortable position for them because it allows more control, and if they made more sensible policies, the inevitable mishap would be blamed on those lax(er) rules.
That's quite interesting, thanks! I haven't been to London in 16 years. Didn't used to be so monitored back then. That said, when I went to Tianjin (China) this year, there were also policemen everywhere. I didn't quite mind - I mind my own business, they mind theirs - but the constant CCTV surveillance would make me uneasy. Kind of hoping that one remains another odd UK-only thing.
Yeah, but there is a bit of difference in what a city and what an company employing them can do, though. I mean, the city isn't supposed to pay you enough so you don't have kill yourself so your family doesn't starve, for one. Your employer, on the other hand, might be. Morally responsible to do so, to me at least.
the programs are supervised by local government authorities and teachers assigned to monitor the students' work
So, I'm not sure that statement means "They are watching us so we treat students well" or "They are watching the students to make sure they don't get funny ideas".
Come on, this is the same company which wanted to address the high number of suicides by hanging nets around buildings until the PR disaster struck.
A good analogy, but I think the issue is more complex than just being used to safety (being "too clean"). The crux is that after decades of scientific and medical advances, there are massive sociological changes. I mean, consider: not so long ago, the families used to keep the dead in the house for a few days, holding vigil. Well, at least, where I live. Death wasn't such an exceptional happening, it was a way more common occourence. Nowdays the average lifespan is way longer, so death has become rare. People don't "experience" it happening around them, and they don't know how to handle it. Even talking about dying is often taboo as people try to avoid thinking about it. It has transformed into something almost incomprehensible.
This is why terrorists attacks result in higher and higher histeria in my opinion: the more uneasy death makes people, the greater impact the news of a deadly event will have on them, especially if they feel they could have been there. I blame this on our society's inability to mentally handle this issue.
The problem is, if a positive result can mean closing highways, evacuating people and alerting every emergency service to start whatever plan they have drafted up, even a single false result is unacceptable. The same way you wouldn't want NORAD to randomly order nukes launched at someone just because there was a one-in-a-million glitch...
When I was travelling to a conference in the States, I couldn't help but notice how... pervasive paranoia was. I was travelling with a Metra train to Chicago downtown, and there were stickers everywhere how you should report strange behaviour, announecements over speakers to "say if you see", help the dogs who are sniffing for explosives, and so on.
There is basically nothing like that in Europe. I wonder if it's just a different in mindset, or are the companies/government pushing that hard to make people feel afraid?
Just stick an SD card in there with a hidden truecrypt volume and voila, you'll probably never find out if they deleted it or not. They don't even need to be trying.
Do you actually need the heat? Vacuum is an insulator, and with all the electronics going you'd need more cooling than heating sooner or later, no? Of course the moon rock might cool the installation down...
Solar farms would have serious issue with micro-meteorite impacts though. It's worse than on a space station or satellite even, because these will be unable to manuever, and impacts that hit the nearby surface will also have a good chance of damaging them. They'd only be a viable solution if they are constantly maintaned. That's not to say they'd be impractical; just not a perfect solution on their own - there'd need to be backup power in case some of the farms drop off-grid.
As for why use RTG and not a full-blown reactor, running a RTG is way more simple than a xMW nuclear power plant. It's easier to maintain - actually, it shouldn't need much maintenance at all - , it barely needs any active cooling system. (Actually, without an atmosphere to provide a nice medium to transfer heat to, how would a nuclear power plant work in space? Apart from using an obscenely big thermal radiator.) And I doubt there'd be need for 20MW power on a moonbase, unless they want to ship massive amounts of people there or operate some sort of complex machinery. That said, I'm no nuclear scientist, so I could be dead wrong there.:)
The issue is, you cannot accept a cert from an IP that had a different cert accepted before. You get sec_error_reused_issuer_and_serial and that's the end of the line until you delete the previous cert. I would have no problem if I could accept the changed cert like in SSH!
If you use a lot of equipment that self-signs certs (HP Proliant ILO, NetApp HTTP interface for ONTAP v7, HP blade enclosure Onboard Admin etc) then yes, you meet it. A lot.
Even worse, when you change the IP of something, it will display the security breach page (yeah, the IPs were swapped, I did it myself!) and you have no way of getting around. Except doing a tedious search and deleting the cert from the firefox store yourself, manually.
So, when are they going to do SOMETHING about that, or at least recognize the issue?
I'm absolutely tired of the Mozilla dev team making a middle finger gesture at these errors and basically saying "Well, get your certs in order!" Only, the certs we are talking about are automatically generated on devices like HP switches, HP ILO modules or NetApp filers, I can't even touch them without a serious hacking and risking breaking a pretty darn expensive piece of equipment. AND only because the FF devs have a fetish about making the CERT ISSUE page as tedious as possible.
I think there's some miscommunication between us. I meant "too" because I disagreed with that decision as well. I was trying to point out that "law" and "justice" don't quite often match up, whether in criminal or civil law.
I also objected to the statement that they are idiot copycats, because I think Samsung deserves a bit more credit. I'm a bit tired that even though the iPhones are dated, so many still consider them the end of all phones in every aspect. I guess I should have made that clearer, eh?
Anyway, in this case, I wouldn't really care who won and lost. Really now, even with the current ruling, 1bill USD for Samsung is barely more than me losing a lot of change money. It's annoying, but one can live with it. But I seriously hoped that with the broken patents in the limelight, they would be called out and there would be a push to abolishing/reforming this idiotic patent system.
Instead, even these patents got reinforced. That is what I cannot wrap my head around, because I bet these ridicolous patents (not just Apple's) will have some very deep effects in a while. I now seriously hope they take it to the logical conclusion, and ban Android phones alltogether - maybe that would have some wake up effect.
Oh my god, the Court decided! So OJ Simpson was completely innocent too just because they said so?
And, about windows phones... yeah, their ever-soaring market share and completely off-the-charts monthly sales speak volumes how much sense that form made for people!
Oh, so now you are asserting an imaginary patent on every conceivable pointing device, far more broad than any pointing device patent (and there have been quite a few) claimed by anybody?
I proposed a hypothetical scenario where someone holds a patent to the input solution that outmost majority of the desktop users use, yes. I didn't say anybody does, just what would happen if someone did.
And yet Apple's current laptops completely lack a right-click button. But to the uncreative, the way they are accustomed to can seem like the One True Way.
Totally digging how you spout ad-hominems. Too bad it only speaks of your human qualities.
And I didn't say "one true way" either, just that it is the most productive/comfortable. There tend to be multiple solutions to a single issue all the time, but they are never equal so there's also always one that is better than the rest. Being forced to use inferior solutions makes exactly whom happier?
Blatantly false. As the jury clearly recognized, many of Samsung's devices were cosmetically similar to the iPhone [peanutbuttereggdirt.com] in a way the Palm phones never were.
Nowhere in the trial was it claimed that Android itself is a cheap iOS copy.
Double-tapping, bouncing back at the end of a list and finding phone numbers in text messages are all Android features, not something that Samsung added on it's own. And those features were found offending. Am I missing something?
I take it you haven't used recent Blackberry models, which have evolved quite a bit since 2008. I still know quite a few people who prefer the Blackberry over the iPhone. Do you really think that it will be a good thing for the consumer if Blackberry is driven out of business and replaced by iClones?
Our company just scrapped the entire Blackberry program we had going, because they are pretty much garbage. If Blackberry goes out of business, it will be because other customers also found them lacking. In the end the customers decide, so for them, whatever happens will be good.
Yet prior to the release of the iPhone, it was conventional wisdom that it was impossible to create a virtual keyboard that would be popular with consumers.
Quite the contrary, my GPS systems had virtual keyboards even before. Not on phones, though.
But there actually still are quite a few people who prefer the kind of well-crafted physical keyboard that the Blackberry devices offer.
And if there are enough of those people, then Blackberry doesn't have to worry about going out of business. Good for them. I still think it's a waste of space on the phone.
Do you really think it will be a good thing for the consumer if this sort of device becomes unavailable to consumers because everybody is playing follow-the-leader with Apple?
If there are people willing to pay for that feature, someone will keep making those phones. Judging by how Blackberry is doing though, apparently not a lot of people need that feature. I don't think it's about following Apple; it's catering to what the masses need. If they want full touchscreen with virtual keyboard, everyone will make that - because that's where money is.
This is kind of ridiculous don't you think, considering that any conce
Certainly. I have no doubt that Apple would be innovative enough to think of other approaches. There are lots of other possibilities: mini-joysticks, trackballs, trackpads.
I didn't say only the mouse would be banned. Besides, if you ever used a laptop, trackballs and trackpads are god-awful compared to a mouse. Mini-joystick? What, you have a C64 nostalgia? There's a reason that thing died out.
Mac software is designed so that right-click is not essential, but only a convenience.
You can live without right clicking in windows too - everything is usually available from the regular menus. It's just MAJORLY inconvient, which is the point. To handle context menus like that, right click is the intuitive way, and pretty much the only one at that.
Palm's WebOS phones looked promising
Those phones never got even close to where I live, but as far as I saw in pictures and videos, WebOS was also guilty of every single charge that is levelled at Android. So do explain: just HOW is WebOS not "another cheap iOS copy" if android is? Praising a mostly dead OS so your point can appear more valid?
Blackberry is another alternative
If you don't mind a phone and OS which is stuck in 2008 (as far as mentality goes), certainly. Seriously, physical keyboards? Only being able to send emails through Blackberry's servers instead of just picking an SMTP? They are not driven out by "cheap iClones", they are driven out by their own incompetence and unwillingness to adapt even with a single inch until it's now probably too late.
It is in the nature of great design that a successful approach can start to seem (to the uncreative, at least) like the only possible way of doing things, but there are always alternatives that are nearly as good, or sometimes better.
Know any PCs that don't make you type via keyboard (virtual or physical) to get characters into the machine? Know any GUI that doesn't use a grid layout for it's icons? Know any operating system that doesn't use folders for organizing files? Oh dear, the whole industry is just full of copycats.:rolleyes:
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I kind of doubt that someone not buying a phone to not "fund slavery" in China will happily opt to buy one that funds "slavery" in say, Vietnam instead. Just a hunch, though. :)
That said, I only heard that only processes that are cheaper to relocate (like clothes) are being moved so far? Though it is only a matter of time if the labour costs in China keep increasing...
I've heard they got EVERYTHING surveillance'd with the Olympics being there and whatnot, but I was never really sure how much of it is media hype and how much is really true. Never really believed they could truly monitor everything, maybe I'm being naive.
Heh, the odd feeling when even the government subscribes to the motto "don't fix what ain't broken". Quite the comfortable position for them because it allows more control, and if they made more sensible policies, the inevitable mishap would be blamed on those lax(er) rules.
That's quite interesting, thanks! I haven't been to London in 16 years. Didn't used to be so monitored back then. That said, when I went to Tianjin (China) this year, there were also policemen everywhere. I didn't quite mind - I mind my own business, they mind theirs - but the constant CCTV surveillance would make me uneasy. Kind of hoping that one remains another odd UK-only thing.
I doubt you could buy a phone (Android, Apple, MS, whatever) that doesn't have a significant portion made in China.
Yeah, but there is a bit of difference in what a city and what an company employing them can do, though. I mean, the city isn't supposed to pay you enough so you don't have kill yourself so your family doesn't starve, for one. Your employer, on the other hand, might be. Morally responsible to do so, to me at least.
the programs are supervised by local government authorities and teachers assigned to monitor the students' work
So, I'm not sure that statement means "They are watching us so we treat students well" or "They are watching the students to make sure they don't get funny ideas".
Come on, this is the same company which wanted to address the high number of suicides by hanging nets around buildings until the PR disaster struck.
A good analogy, but I think the issue is more complex than just being used to safety (being "too clean"). The crux is that after decades of scientific and medical advances, there are massive sociological changes. I mean, consider: not so long ago, the families used to keep the dead in the house for a few days, holding vigil. Well, at least, where I live. Death wasn't such an exceptional happening, it was a way more common occourence. Nowdays the average lifespan is way longer, so death has become rare. People don't "experience" it happening around them, and they don't know how to handle it. Even talking about dying is often taboo as people try to avoid thinking about it. It has transformed into something almost incomprehensible.
This is why terrorists attacks result in higher and higher histeria in my opinion: the more uneasy death makes people, the greater impact the news of a deadly event will have on them, especially if they feel they could have been there. I blame this on our society's inability to mentally handle this issue.
The problem is, if a positive result can mean closing highways, evacuating people and alerting every emergency service to start whatever plan they have drafted up, even a single false result is unacceptable. The same way you wouldn't want NORAD to randomly order nukes launched at someone just because there was a one-in-a-million glitch...
I certainly didn't say it's a utopia, we have our own set of issues. But you sound so butt-hurt I think we are doing something right. :)
When I was travelling to a conference in the States, I couldn't help but notice how... pervasive paranoia was. I was travelling with a Metra train to Chicago downtown, and there were stickers everywhere how you should report strange behaviour, announecements over speakers to "say if you see", help the dogs who are sniffing for explosives, and so on.
There is basically nothing like that in Europe. I wonder if it's just a different in mindset, or are the companies/government pushing that hard to make people feel afraid?
Don't worry, they will just hang onto the Cloud when the ground opens up beneath them.
Destroys the sample visibly how?
Just stick an SD card in there with a hidden truecrypt volume and voila, you'll probably never find out if they deleted it or not. They don't even need to be trying.
I didn't even consider the latter implications. Quite right you are. Kudos for the great insight! :)
Do you actually need the heat? Vacuum is an insulator, and with all the electronics going you'd need more cooling than heating sooner or later, no? Of course the moon rock might cool the installation down...
Quote from above: Apart from using an obscenely big thermal radiator
It's amusing how can one make so snarky comments with such dismal reading comprehension skills. Of course made by an Anonymous Coward too.
Solar farms would have serious issue with micro-meteorite impacts though. It's worse than on a space station or satellite even, because these will be unable to manuever, and impacts that hit the nearby surface will also have a good chance of damaging them. They'd only be a viable solution if they are constantly maintaned. That's not to say they'd be impractical; just not a perfect solution on their own - there'd need to be backup power in case some of the farms drop off-grid.
:)
As for why use RTG and not a full-blown reactor, running a RTG is way more simple than a xMW nuclear power plant. It's easier to maintain - actually, it shouldn't need much maintenance at all - , it barely needs any active cooling system. (Actually, without an atmosphere to provide a nice medium to transfer heat to, how would a nuclear power plant work in space? Apart from using an obscenely big thermal radiator.) And I doubt there'd be need for 20MW power on a moonbase, unless they want to ship massive amounts of people there or operate some sort of complex machinery. That said, I'm no nuclear scientist, so I could be dead wrong there.
The issue is, you cannot accept a cert from an IP that had a different cert accepted before. You get sec_error_reused_issuer_and_serial and that's the end of the line until you delete the previous cert. I would have no problem if I could accept the changed cert like in SSH!
If you use a lot of equipment that self-signs certs (HP Proliant ILO, NetApp HTTP interface for ONTAP v7, HP blade enclosure Onboard Admin etc) then yes, you meet it. A lot.
Even worse, when you change the IP of something, it will display the security breach page (yeah, the IPs were swapped, I did it myself!) and you have no way of getting around. Except doing a tedious search and deleting the cert from the firefox store yourself, manually.
And no, this behaviour has not improved at all.
So, when are they going to do SOMETHING about that, or at least recognize the issue?
I'm absolutely tired of the Mozilla dev team making a middle finger gesture at these errors and basically saying "Well, get your certs in order!" Only, the certs we are talking about are automatically generated on devices like HP switches, HP ILO modules or NetApp filers, I can't even touch them without a serious hacking and risking breaking a pretty darn expensive piece of equipment. AND only because the FF devs have a fetish about making the CERT ISSUE page as tedious as possible.
I think there's some miscommunication between us. I meant "too" because I disagreed with that decision as well. I was trying to point out that "law" and "justice" don't quite often match up, whether in criminal or civil law.
:)
I also objected to the statement that they are idiot copycats, because I think Samsung deserves a bit more credit. I'm a bit tired that even though the iPhones are dated, so many still consider them the end of all phones in every aspect. I guess I should have made that clearer, eh?
Anyway, in this case, I wouldn't really care who won and lost. Really now, even with the current ruling, 1bill USD for Samsung is barely more than me losing a lot of change money. It's annoying, but one can live with it. But I seriously hoped that with the broken patents in the limelight, they would be called out and there would be a push to abolishing/reforming this idiotic patent system.
Instead, even these patents got reinforced. That is what I cannot wrap my head around, because I bet these ridicolous patents (not just Apple's) will have some very deep effects in a while. I now seriously hope they take it to the logical conclusion, and ban Android phones alltogether - maybe that would have some wake up effect.
So yeah. In that way... I'm a pretty bad loser.
Oh my god, the Court decided! So OJ Simpson was completely innocent too just because they said so?
And, about windows phones... yeah, their ever-soaring market share and completely off-the-charts monthly sales speak volumes how much sense that form made for people!
Oh, so now you are asserting an imaginary patent on every conceivable pointing device, far more broad than any pointing device patent (and there have been quite a few) claimed by anybody?
I proposed a hypothetical scenario where someone holds a patent to the input solution that outmost majority of the desktop users use, yes. I didn't say anybody does, just what would happen if someone did.
And yet Apple's current laptops completely lack a right-click button. But to the uncreative, the way they are accustomed to can seem like the One True Way.
Totally digging how you spout ad-hominems. Too bad it only speaks of your human qualities. And I didn't say "one true way" either, just that it is the most productive/comfortable. There tend to be multiple solutions to a single issue all the time, but they are never equal so there's also always one that is better than the rest. Being forced to use inferior solutions makes exactly whom happier?
Blatantly false. As the jury clearly recognized, many of Samsung's devices were cosmetically similar to the iPhone [peanutbuttereggdirt.com] in a way the Palm phones never were.
Doesn't look so earth-shatteringly different to me. http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2011/01/webOS-22.png http://c2499022.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Samsung-Galaxy-S2-Android-4-ICS.jpg
Nowhere in the trial was it claimed that Android itself is a cheap iOS copy.
Double-tapping, bouncing back at the end of a list and finding phone numbers in text messages are all Android features, not something that Samsung added on it's own. And those features were found offending. Am I missing something?
I take it you haven't used recent Blackberry models, which have evolved quite a bit since 2008. I still know quite a few people who prefer the Blackberry over the iPhone. Do you really think that it will be a good thing for the consumer if Blackberry is driven out of business and replaced by iClones?
Our company just scrapped the entire Blackberry program we had going, because they are pretty much garbage. If Blackberry goes out of business, it will be because other customers also found them lacking. In the end the customers decide, so for them, whatever happens will be good.
Yet prior to the release of the iPhone, it was conventional wisdom that it was impossible to create a virtual keyboard that would be popular with consumers.
Quite the contrary, my GPS systems had virtual keyboards even before. Not on phones, though.
But there actually still are quite a few people who prefer the kind of well-crafted physical keyboard that the Blackberry devices offer.
And if there are enough of those people, then Blackberry doesn't have to worry about going out of business. Good for them. I still think it's a waste of space on the phone.
Do you really think it will be a good thing for the consumer if this sort of device becomes unavailable to consumers because everybody is playing follow-the-leader with Apple?
If there are people willing to pay for that feature, someone will keep making those phones. Judging by how Blackberry is doing though, apparently not a lot of people need that feature. I don't think it's about following Apple; it's catering to what the masses need. If they want full touchscreen with virtual keyboard, everyone will make that - because that's where money is.
This is kind of ridiculous don't you think, considering that any conce
If that inaccuracy bothers you, then just replace the name with Gottlieb Daimer.
Certainly. I have no doubt that Apple would be innovative enough to think of other approaches. There are lots of other possibilities: mini-joysticks, trackballs, trackpads.
I didn't say only the mouse would be banned. Besides, if you ever used a laptop, trackballs and trackpads are god-awful compared to a mouse. Mini-joystick? What, you have a C64 nostalgia? There's a reason that thing died out.
Mac software is designed so that right-click is not essential, but only a convenience.
You can live without right clicking in windows too - everything is usually available from the regular menus. It's just MAJORLY inconvient, which is the point. To handle context menus like that, right click is the intuitive way, and pretty much the only one at that.
Palm's WebOS phones looked promising
Those phones never got even close to where I live, but as far as I saw in pictures and videos, WebOS was also guilty of every single charge that is levelled at Android. So do explain: just HOW is WebOS not "another cheap iOS copy" if android is? Praising a mostly dead OS so your point can appear more valid?
Blackberry is another alternative
If you don't mind a phone and OS which is stuck in 2008 (as far as mentality goes), certainly. Seriously, physical keyboards? Only being able to send emails through Blackberry's servers instead of just picking an SMTP? They are not driven out by "cheap iClones", they are driven out by their own incompetence and unwillingness to adapt even with a single inch until it's now probably too late.
It is in the nature of great design that a successful approach can start to seem (to the uncreative, at least) like the only possible way of doing things, but there are always alternatives that are nearly as good, or sometimes better.
Know any PCs that don't make you type via keyboard (virtual or physical) to get characters into the machine? Know any GUI that doesn't use a grid layout for it's icons? Know any operating system that doesn't use folders for organizing files? Oh dear, the whole industry is just full of copycats. :rolleyes: