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Apple Announces iPhone 5
Today Phil Schiller took to the stage at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco, where he announced the long-expected iPhone 5. The casing is made entirely of glass and aluminum, and it's 7.6mm thick, which is 18% thinner than the iPhone 4S. It weighs in at 112 grams, which is 20% lighter than the 4S. Schiller confirmed that the iPhone 5 has a 4" display, with a resolution of 1136x640. It's a 16:9 aspect ratio. The screen is the same width as a 4S, but it's taller. To accommodate older apps, they either center the app or add black bars to make it look right. The new device also has LTE support. Tim Cook spoke earlier about the iPad, making some interesting claims: "Yes, we are in a post-PC world." He also claimed 68% tablet market share for the iPad, and says iPads account for 91% of tablet-based web traffic. The event is continuing, and we'll update this post as further announcements appear. A real-time liveblog is being quickly updated at Ars Technica. Update: 09/12 18:16 GMT by S : Further details below.
Further details: for the iPhone 5, Apple also added support for HSPA+ and DC-HSDPA. The dynamic antenna is an improvement over the 4S, and can switch connections. In the U.S. LTE partners are AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint. On to processing: the iPhone 5 runs an A6 chip that's twice as fast as the A5, in addition to being 22% smaller. Rob Murray from EA got up on stage to show a racing game, claiming that the graphics "have been built to full console quality." Battery life for the phone will be roughly 8 hours for either 3G talk-time or browsing. Engadget has a feature-by-feature comparison to the 4S.
The new phone's camera has an 8-Megapixel sensor, with a resolution of 3264x2448. It includes a hybrid IR filter, an f/2.4 aperture, and a five element lens. And a sapphire crystal lens cover, for whatever that's worth. There's a new feature for taking panorama shots (claimed 'breakthrough software,' though similar software already appears on actual cameras), and new software for automatically sharing pictures.
Apple also detailed the new connector, dubbed 'Lightning.' It's entirely digital, and 80% smaller than the old connector. It can be plugged in in either direction. Apple has created a bunch of adapters to let old cables and hardware work with Lightning. They then spoke at length about iOS 6, which will run on the iPhone 5, and demonstrated their new Maps app, which includes turn-by-turn directions (also in 3D using a 'cinematic camera'). "Apple is betting heavily on Passbook and other features to give it a leg up in the competition over Google Android and the upcoming Windows Phone 8." Pre-orders for the iPhone 5 start on Friday, and the device will start shipping on September 21. iOS 6 will roll out on September 19.
Apple's Eddie Cue went on stage to discuss changes to iTunes and the iPod. iTunes has been redesigned to work better on the iPad, and, more importantly, iCloud integration has been built in. They've also made a 'mini-player,' which takes up much less screen real estate. The new iTunes will be available in late October. Changes are coming for iPods as well. The new iPod nano looks like a mini iPod Touch. It's 38% thinner than the previous model, but has a bigger, 2.5" multitouch display. It contains an FM tuner with DVR functionality, it has a Home button, and it uses the Lightning connector. The iPod Touch is now 6.1 mm thick and weighs 88 grams. It has a Lightning connector port too, in addition to the headphone jack. The screen is bigger; it's a 4" display, the same as the iPhone 5. It runs on a dual-core A5 processor that's twice as fast as the previous model. Graphics are claimed to be seven times faster. The battery allows for 40 hours of audio playback or 8 hours of video playback. The camera has been upgraded to a 5MP sensor. The iPod Touch comes in colors now. But not grape. Apple also took the wraps off what they call "EarPods." They're like earbuds, but they don't form a seal within the ear. They let air flow continue, and a tiny speaker directs the sound into the ear. The EarPods will come standard with the iPhone 5 and with the new revisions of the iPod Nano, and iPod Touch.
The new phone's camera has an 8-Megapixel sensor, with a resolution of 3264x2448. It includes a hybrid IR filter, an f/2.4 aperture, and a five element lens. And a sapphire crystal lens cover, for whatever that's worth. There's a new feature for taking panorama shots (claimed 'breakthrough software,' though similar software already appears on actual cameras), and new software for automatically sharing pictures.
Apple also detailed the new connector, dubbed 'Lightning.' It's entirely digital, and 80% smaller than the old connector. It can be plugged in in either direction. Apple has created a bunch of adapters to let old cables and hardware work with Lightning. They then spoke at length about iOS 6, which will run on the iPhone 5, and demonstrated their new Maps app, which includes turn-by-turn directions (also in 3D using a 'cinematic camera'). "Apple is betting heavily on Passbook and other features to give it a leg up in the competition over Google Android and the upcoming Windows Phone 8." Pre-orders for the iPhone 5 start on Friday, and the device will start shipping on September 21. iOS 6 will roll out on September 19.
Apple's Eddie Cue went on stage to discuss changes to iTunes and the iPod. iTunes has been redesigned to work better on the iPad, and, more importantly, iCloud integration has been built in. They've also made a 'mini-player,' which takes up much less screen real estate. The new iTunes will be available in late October. Changes are coming for iPods as well. The new iPod nano looks like a mini iPod Touch. It's 38% thinner than the previous model, but has a bigger, 2.5" multitouch display. It contains an FM tuner with DVR functionality, it has a Home button, and it uses the Lightning connector. The iPod Touch is now 6.1 mm thick and weighs 88 grams. It has a Lightning connector port too, in addition to the headphone jack. The screen is bigger; it's a 4" display, the same as the iPhone 5. It runs on a dual-core A5 processor that's twice as fast as the previous model. Graphics are claimed to be seven times faster. The battery allows for 40 hours of audio playback or 8 hours of video playback. The camera has been upgraded to a 5MP sensor. The iPod Touch comes in colors now. But not grape. Apple also took the wraps off what they call "EarPods." They're like earbuds, but they don't form a seal within the ear. They let air flow continue, and a tiny speaker directs the sound into the ear. The EarPods will come standard with the iPhone 5 and with the new revisions of the iPod Nano, and iPod Touch.
whatever
-Lod
Looks nice so far. I'm glad that it has just a slightly larger size and not something ridiculous like some of the Android phones.
Look, the guy's on stage halfway through the presentation. There will undoubtedly be more announced than what's been mentioned so far. What's the point in publishing half a story? Just wait half an hour for them to get through the presentation and then publish the story when you actually have the full story.
Bogtha Bogtha Bogtha
"68% tablet market share for the iPad, and says iPads account for 91% of tablet-based web traffic" ;)
i am sure its for productive content creation
But but, Steve Jesus Jobs said "3.5 inch was the MOST PERFECT EVAAAR phone size"... and all you fanbois were falling over each other bashing Samsung and Android for large screen size. whatever happened to that????
post-PC world you can't code on ios and the screen is to small to do big typing / excel type work.
"Rob Murray from EA"
Something shiny! It has an apple logo.
It has a 16x9 ratio. It has 4Glte. Apple invented these things things, do you hear me!!!!!!!
Um, it's a phone okay? It's a little better than what came before it. It's not going to change your life, get you laid or anything else. It's just a phone with a proprietary connector and a proprietary app store. Some people like how it's made, they will buy it. Some people don't, they will buy something else. It's really not a big deal
Not exactly awe inspiring Apple, is it? http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/16/rim-standard-resolutions-bb10/
For a company that wants to be seen as being on the leading edge they could have at least tried competing with the GS3.
iPhone whatever...but will it blend?
Will Apple be forced to allow iPad owners to install whatever software they want, even if it's not distributed through the App Store?
Where are the lawyers from Samsung when you need them?
Its not "sudden urgency." Slashdot stories are also frequently during the event, too.
Slashdot is remarkably inconsistent in terms of the timing, quality, and viewpoint of stories. But there is nothing new about this, or unusual about this story in that regard; it falls well within Slashdot's usual range of variation.
I blame my Mac keyboard, it knows what I'm typing...
What kills me is that people are going to eat that shit up. They don't realize that they hold a PC in their hand which just so happens to have a phone app. My first computer had an AMD k6-2 300mhz processor (I'm 22, see UID), and I was astounded when I realized my OG Droid had double the compute power. It only took a decade for that to go from being the latest and greatest to being in the palm of your hand being used for fart apps. Tegra games already rival the current-gen consoles in terms of graphics.
PCs aren't dead, they're better than they ever have been before.
In other news, Steve Jobs shits his grave knowing his precious screens are used to display black bars.
My T-Mobile G1 has 5 rows of icons. I expect Apple will sue HTC and win over this innovation that HTC obviously stole years ago.
Won't wirelessly stream video to my HDTV
less storage than the Library of Congress
Lame.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
What's an iPhone?
1136x640? What kind of crack-smoking resolution is that? It's not any kind of standard and it isn't an integer multiple of the existing iPhone resolutions. I had expected it to be 1440x960 (3x the original iPhone resolution) so that they could keep using the existing Retina Display features, which use simple pixel doubling for noncompliant apps. But what are they going for with this?
The 3 fingered iPhone 5 grip?
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
The first iPhone didn't have wireless? Man, that's a crappy cell phone. How far we've come since those salad days of non-wireless mobile communications.
Filing papers in court I suspect.
Care to name one on the 4S?
Don't tell me what new (technical features) your product has.. tell me how it's going to change how I think about mobile communication.
For a company that wants to be seen as being on the leading edge they could have at least tried competing with the GS3.
leading edge of what?
Apple since their inception has been about bringing computing to the masses. It's been about making user interfaces more intuitive. It's also been about design.
I have never ever seen anything from Apple where they wanted their products to be leading edge in technology.
These sorts of statements are so over-the-top. No ipad is going to replace my desktop at work, nor my gaming laptop at home. Apple's success in the last decade has been in part by doubling-down on particular demographics, but notions like these seem to suggest that Apple's success might clouding their perception a tad.
In debates about Christianity, there are two groups: those looking for answers, and those looking to just ask questions.
No, I don't remember that. Because it was CmdrTaco's story for the first iPod.
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
1136x640? What kind of crack-smoking resolution is that? It's not any kind of standard and it isn't an integer multiple of the existing iPhone resolutions.
It's an exact 1x the 640 pixel width of the iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, and iPod touch 4. As I understand the summary, retina apps will look the same, just with borders on the top and bottom.
At least not at the moment. But I do want to hear about Apple's *other new hardware*, assuming any exists...
PS: I don't reply to ACs.
Since when is 1136x640 a 16:9 ratio?
I would say I wonder how they're going to resolve that, but I'm sure it'll be the same as the last half-dozen things that were superfluous when the rest of the industry had them, but became must-have features when Apple finally caught up.
Lest we forget... 100ppi optimal resolution
The iPhone has been falling behind in the past year or so. Competitors now have better hardware and an equally good user experience. This is why Apple has been resorting to lawsuits: in the phone arena, they face the real prospect of losing serious market share to Samsung. The Galaxy S III is competitive with even the iPhone 5 (though its app ecosystem may not be quite as good) and the Galaxy Note is far superior to the Apple phones.
On the tablet side of things, Apple is faring better. There is still no serious Android competitor to the new iPad, with its unparalleled 2048x1536 display. Android fans usually try to respond by telling me that I don't really need a high-res display. This is a losing argument – once you've seen the new iPad in action, low-resolution tablets look crude in comparison. It really makes a huge difference, especially when reading PDFs and web pages zoomed out. None of the competing 10" tablets come close to the iPad's market share. The smaller, cheaper tablets (Nexus 7, Kindle Fire) are indeed cutting into Apple's business, but they apparently have an iPad Mini prepped and ready to go to compete there. If rumors are accurate and it goes for $249 or so, then it's going to get a lot of purchases. On the other hand, it's hard to say how many will be taken from Google and Amazon, and how many will be cannibalized from sales of the full-size (and presumably more profitable) iPad.
I'm hoping that Samsung's next Galaxy Note tablet will have a Retina-equivalent display. If they can do that and keep the price at $499 to open (like Apple did), then they will have a real competitor on their hands. I'd seriously consider buying one.
...Oh, wait.. forget it.
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Sorry, not trying to be fanboi like, but BULLSHIT.
Coding apps are available on iOS. Is it the perfect screen? Fuck no. But at least try not to lie. Or go Republican...then we expect lying.
I believe he meant that it isn't feasible to code on ios and, even if it is, i seriously wonder why you would ever want to do that.
http://thecuriousbrain.com/?p=33360
just FYI the "I'm not impressed with the iPhone 5" people are being just as histrionic as the fanbois this time around.
The connector is called Lightning. ahahaha. What's the headphone jack called when it gets an upgrade?
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple
The part I like the best about the iPhone 5 is the new time travel app, that lets you skip back in time a preset duration, ranging from 10 seconds to 1 day.
Helped me avoid all the lines by allowing me to walk into the shipping rooms through a door using a double time skip sequence to avoid the guards.
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But we are still in the handcuff world. We need free software and an open access wireless last mile. The telco's are taking away Internet rights. We need many ISP's competing before there can be capitalism, right now we are still in a futile age of Internet access.
Some Telco guy will mod this down, so I am not putting my name on it.
4-inch screen, 16:9 aspect ratio, LTE, maps... Menlo Park, start your copiers!
"He also claimed 68% tablet market share for the iPad, and says iPads account for 91% of tablet-based web traffic"
Was anyone else's first reaction to this statement "Wow, that sounds like iPads are inefficient."
i.e., will those grandfathered unlimited plans still work on the LTE network?
How can people get excited by this stuff? The original iPhone was amazing, but surely these 20% thinner/faster/smaller/wider/etc. incremental changes should not be causing the tech world to collectively cream in their pants.
The Onion of course nails this phenomenon perfectly -- starting at 0:21. http://www.theonion.com/video/apple-unveils-muchanticipated-iphone-4se,29489/
You can see what you are doing on a Pad. and get a full keyboard for typing.
Took one look at the Next step software and figuratively barfed all over the place. I guess the don't know any better fan boys just don't know any better.
"Yes, we are in a post-PC world."
Who is "we"? Certainly it's not anyone who does work on a computer, or anyone who supports computers that people do work on, or anyone who creates things that people use to do work on a computer. Those poor clods are still stuck in the "PC runs damn near every aspect of business" world.
-Lod
Looks pretty sick. I would buy it. What's the memory sizes for the iPhone 5? Are they just like 4S?
I wrote this. Please don't hate me.
With all of these different versions of iOS and different versions of hardware, Apple is creating Fragmentation! (gasp!)
What is Apple going to do about this?
Why can't old apps dynamically adapt to the new screen size? The iPad has been out for how long now?
Further evidence that this isn't your dad's Apple computer anymore. Back in the early days of Mac, Apple specifically told developers to not make assumptions about the hardware, screen size, processor speed, etc.
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
4S?
so disappointed. nothing new.. the same things..
I checked and you can't run programs outside of a sandbox. The "Run Programs" features is still missing )-:
I'll wait for the iPhone 6.
Yeah, back when you had to climb a telephone pole to hook in to the network, eh?
Is the reversible dock connector. All connectors should be made this way!
That dumb bitch Siri that tries to communicate with you.
Apple might be, but "we" are not.
I will not buy one to fund the "slavery" of Foxconn workers.
I agree. The trade off is that everything else consumer-IT related is also made by forced Chinese labor. (read that: I sure see the name "Foxconn" labeled on way too many of the stuff I purchase.)
PS: I don't reply to ACs.
Did Apple ever use PS2?
wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Macintosh_4400
a machine no one gave a shit about
It is right there in the presentation. Black bars around most apps until they are upgraded.
I admit that is only an aesthetic defect, but aesthetics seems to be a major concern for many Apple fans.
I will.
And the first iPod was not the pinaccle of music players.
For years now the HDD based iPod Classic has survived new iPods of various names and specs, but it gets at best a mention once a year. Will we still see it for again survive another year? I sure hope so, because HDD based players are getting harder and harder to find.
This is further proof that Google already has a working time machine, in order to steal the revolutionary 16:9 aspect ratio, the 4 inch display design. The original evidence was the roll-down notification bar of course.
A main concern with the iPhone to me is the durability. I've seen countless friends and strangers on the street with shattered or badly cracked screens. You don't need to drop from a significant height (2-3 feet I think), probably just needs to hit at the right angle. The only remedy appears to be to get a bumper case for the phone. If you know how to fix the iPhone yourself you can get parts on eBay etc for less than $50 (not that big a deal I supposed). I know of people who've been quoted over $200 to get it fixed in a shop.
In contrast, my cellphone takes a bit of abuse (its a BB Curve). I've probably dropped my BB several dozen times and carry in my pocket next to keys. I only installed a screen protector. Many other competing smartphones to iPhone all seem to fare well on durability.
With every iPhone model (and smartphones in general all of which can cost $300 - $600+) being thinner and lighter, I'm concerned smartphones as a whole are not going to last very long.
Seriously, go check this out. They're going to print money with this thing.
And that they did...
Ok, but why is it that every single iPhone I see is covered by a huge honkin rubber protective case?
From what I have seen Apple should quit trying to make the thinnest iPhone possible and instead make something that can survive a drop.
Don't know something? Look it up. Still don't know? Then ask.
yeah you can write the code on it try compiling it on devise though... oh wait.
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price :whatever :priceless
the hassle
Yes. I was grandfathered in from the original iPhone, to a 3GS, then a 4. Recently switched to a Galaxy S3 and kept my plan, even with LTE.
err... why?
It's a phone being sold, there's no diplomatic measures.
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If people don't care what apple does, why are they commenting in a thread about it?
Ultimately, this product seems to be one that is geared towards fragmenting their own user-base. It's unhealthy for them as a company, and it's not remotely helpful to the consumer.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
I doubt you could buy a phone (Android, Apple, MS, whatever) that doesn't have a significant portion made in China.
So if the base price for the iPod Touch 4th gen is $199, the iPod Touch 5th gen $299, the iPad 2 $399, and the new iPad $499, what is the iPad mini going to cost? And who is going to pay $299 for an iPod Touch? My 4th gen $199 Touch is great but I'm certainly not upgrading for $299.
What part of "We are in a post-PC world" don't you understand?
I like some Apple stuff...but the fanboys are truly insane. Can you believe these people motivated to tweet and phone in to shows actually defending Apple on this new connector?
That's why RIM is in trouble. I stupidly dropped my 9810 today, nearly 5 feet. Not a scratch; just kept working. Now if that had been an iPhone, that would have been another sale for Apple.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
Apple has created a bunch of adapters to let old cables and hardware work with Lightning.
Oh sure, and they'll be happy to let you have them for only apiece. You'll need at least 5 or 6, of course, since they're tiny and easily lost. This connector thing is the second time Apple has disapointed me with this crap; the last time was when they changed the power adapter for the Retina Macbook pro, for no good reason. Sorry Apple, I generally love your stuff, but that smells like an evil attempt to make a few (million) bucks off over-priced adapters. And it's enough to keep me with my good old iPhone 4.
Deja Moo: The distinct feeling that you've heard this bull before.
This reads like a car ad from the tailfin era of the 1950s. "Pontiac Steps Out Longer, Lower, Wider". This was such a big deal at the time that Pontiac, MI named their main street Wide Track Drive. In 1996, they changed it back to Woodward Avenue, after the Pontiac plant closed.
It's just a new model, with very minor changes over the old model. Does about the same stuff. Get over it.
iOS has had panoramic apps before Samsung, Apple is just including it in the built in Camera app now.
That dumb bitch Siri that tries to communicate with you.
This morning on the WCBS 2 news, the newscasters did some off the cuff commenting after an iPhone story. Talking about Siri, Mary Calvi frowned, then said, "It doesn't work very well.". She's a smart and beautiful lady, and that was her honest opinion. Glad I went the android route, it hassaved me lots of money.
How about it doesn't work in Australia?
One of the keys to Apple's success is the unshakeable conviction that "Nobody wants X--until Apple figures out how to do it right."
Apple did improve on the iPhone 4S. I like the shape better and find it quite amazing how they upped the precision in manufacturing again by orders of magnitude. ... Awesome detail improvement whilst maintaining that neat design. Once again this electronic fashion statement is going to sell like hot cakes.
Then again, I personally choose the Google leash over the apple lock-in any time and still am enjoying my HTC Desire HD. Great phone, tons of features, very rugged, especially with its neat Otterbox protective case. I'm probably going to use that for the next few years. Its also way cheaper *and* I can replace the battery. ... So to me there's really no need to by a piece of electronic junk every odd year right now.
My 2 cents.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
And are, therefore, very chatty.
Tablets are entertainment consuming devices. Most of the iPad data is probably videos downloaded over iTunes. Android users browse youtube.
The fact it took almost nine months for a usable jailbreak to happen?
The iPad is fine for typing or spreadsheets, especially if you get a separate keyboard for longer sessions. Screen size is not the issue... a much more glaring omission is support for track pads. Controlling a cursor via a touchscreen blows chunks.
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
Carriers are going to milk this. The iphone on 3G is already responsible for a ton of bandwidth. When the LTE enabled iphone 5 hits, that will go up. That means further strained networks, and customers burning up their puny data plans faster. I'd love to get a real smart phone, but with most carriers colluding on data pricing, a smart phone is an increasingly expensive luxury item.
"And a sapphire crystal lens cover, for whatever that's worth."
With a hardness of roughly 9 on the Mohs hardness scale, that means it is much more resistant to scratching versus glass. This keeps image quality good, as a scratched lens protection plate will always fuck with the clarity of your images.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
You can use a pen and paper to "write" code. Will it run, Hell no. But you can still write it. That doesn't mean it is a good platform to code on.
post-PC world you can code on ios and the screen is fine big typing / excel type work.
FTFY
By the way, my novel is coming along just fine, thanks.
An iPad is everything you need for serious writing. Less so if you are doing design and layout, but for writing it is very convenient, light and has an insanely long battery life. If you need a keyboard, there are plenty of them sold with bluetooth connections that work fine on the iPad, freeing up a ton of space. Mine is connected to my iPad case. If you balk because a bluetooth keyboard is not included with the purchase price, maybe you could tell me which desktop computer I can buy with a decent bluetooth keyboard included for free.
for real, who the fuck buys asian knock-offs? these jokers probably buy their wife a fake gucci bake for christmas too!
post-PC doesn't mean that the PC isn't around anymore. It just means it's not the main device in most people's lives.
Apple's view is that an app should be hand-customized to support the resolution and screen size of the device
That would have worked back when all Macs had a 512x342 pixel monochrome screen, and it may work on iOS, but Mac screen sizes vary quite a bit as of now. Is the key difference here the fact that iOS apps run maximized but Mac apps need not?
While having two basic shell color models reduces parts supply problems, and allows for quick fixes for breakage, a missing rebrand upscaling of the iPhone 5 is the ability to buy it with shell casing matching school colors.
For example, at the UW Bookstore, you could get a Dawg iPhone 5 with Purple and Gold colors. A part of the proceeds could go to the university or college doing this.
Up till now, most people have settled for fab work done by friends, or used shell cases such as the waterproof rugged casing a lot of my friends who keep them in their purses use, but it's the most obvious thing, other than "signed" cases done by designers such as Hermes or so on.
Face it, if you're going dancing, you probably want the slimmest profile for the phone you can get, as well as a user-identifiable dongle. Just look at the Japanese teen market for ideas in this sphere.
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It's good people at /. aren't bitter. Geezus. Not a constructive shred to say (that got promoted)
Lots of fab work is being done in Vietnam, Thailand, and other countries, due to increased costs in China, actually.
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Seriously I don't care if it's thinner. I'll trade a thicker iphone if it gives me a longer battery life.
Apple doesn't care, they don't make electronics for real work so you shouldn't be concerned with it.
I kind of doubt that someone not buying a phone to not "fund slavery" in China will happily opt to buy one that funds "slavery" in say, Vietnam instead. Just a hunch, though. :)
That said, I only heard that only processes that are cheaper to relocate (like clothes) are being moved so far? Though it is only a matter of time if the labour costs in China keep increasing...
Interestingly, you _can_ do that on Android -- I had a friend write a basic 'hello world' app on his Galaxy SIII within a couple days of buying it, just because he could.
Now, why you would actually WANT to....hell if I know. Maybe if the app you wrote has a bug that you happen to discover while using it in a plane mid-flight while your laptop isn't in your carry-on and you absolutely must fix it right now?
Wow, letterboxing? Really? Really? Did Apple just never learn how to make an API for UI elements that doesn't suck?
Yes, in fact they did it from the release of the SDK.
An app has ALWAYS had to take into account the screen might shrink somewhat for an incoming call; it increases the header size.
The same auto-layout logic (again present since the release of the SDK) would also handle simply expanding an app to fill the screen. Some apps might look a little funny until they get updated, but not too bad.
If Apple had increased the WIDTH, then there would have been major issues as many fewer app developers plan for that varying.
The question is if Apple is going to let apps auto-resize, or if they will present bars until you re-compile and re-submit the app. But the point is that apps already are handling variable heights to some degree so this is not a tricky thing.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I'm not so much concerened about all the "accessories" I have (I don't really have too many) as I am the DOZEN charger cables I have all over the place. Home - Office - car - Wife's car - boat, etc. When I can buy these cables for $0.99 a piece on eBay, it makes it easy. How easy is this going to be with the new cable? I am sure Apple's "all digital" design will lock-out unauthorized third parties who don't pay licensing fees - so - goodbye cheap eBay cables! As for their adapter - another thing to forget - lose - another thing to buy, (an undoubtedly from Apple at that). My 3GS has grown sluggish over the years. No doubt I'll be replacing it - but probably with a cheaper (or used) 4S instead.
Pretty much. On a small touch-screen device, screen space is precious. Things can't just scale with resolution on an iPhone, for example, as they do on a computer monitor, because a finger is not a precise pointing device like a mouse. And you have only one "window" on an iOS device, while a Mac has multiple windows that you can manipulate the proportions of, so a different proportioned screen is not such a problem.
With all of these different versions of iOS and different versions of hardware, Apple is creating Fragmentation! (gasp!)
Not really.
Going forward, most app developers will target only iOS5/iOS6. The adoption rate is really high, and since most app developers keep support for a release back it helps the users migrate also.
As for devices, you still have only the iPhone screen size to code for, or the iPad screen size.
Yes there is a slightly taller iPhone now, but it's just one more row on a table. Apps have to already adapt for varying heights as an incoming call changes the header height; the auto-layout code will simply adapt for the larger screen area to (for tables there is zero extra work).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Post-PC does not mean OC's are dead; they will always remain.
But you also misunderstand what post-pc means. It does not mean post-pc devices are not general computing devices; they are simply general purpose computing devices that you can use far more like appliances than well, the PC computers (Mac and Windows) you used to know.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Only the Ben Bernanke can print money.
Unlike the 'good old days' when people used to write whole OSes on their phone ?
Samsung was waiting for the presentation to have an official confirmation that iPhone 5 will have LTE...
Now, they'll ask for a ban of the device and people who will preorder will take the risk of waiting for ages before having their brand new phone...
So the lines may be quite short after all... Because people want their breand new toy NOW and not in a uncertain future...
I'd like to buy one outright and go w/ a no-contract plan. Anyone know how that works?
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
post-PC world you can't code on ios and the screen is to small to do big typing / excel type work.
It also sucks as a web application server, and it sucks at massively parallelized HPC too.
It's a shame that I was compelled to give up all other information-processing machines when I decided to carry this shiny Apple device around, but...lock-in...Apple tax...Zombie Steve Jobs...amirite?
. Things can't just scale with resolution on an iPhone, for example, as they do on a computer monitor, because a finger is not a precise pointing device like a mouse.
ummm.... why not? That is how Android does it.
it looks just like the last 5 iphones
You know, in case an Apple employee drops a phone again. Need to keep a look out for an iphone 4s case disguising the goodness of the iphone 5 ..
Profit!
The 3 fingered iPhone 5 grip?
It's called the shocker
Let's not kid ourselves. The main device in most peoples' lives is the TV, and has been for decades, and will be for decades more.
This is squabbling for second place, and even then, the PC wasn't it. There wasn't a second place until smartphones and tablets created it.
Welcome to the Panopticon. Used to be a prison, now it's your home.
post-PC world you can't code on ios and the screen is to small to do big typing / excel type work.
Ah you do know they are talking about a phone?
What people are complaining about is the lack of an IDE on the iPad. This is only an issue if all you have ever done is simple programs for single platforms. Most of us have done more. For instance, how many Java programs of web pages run only on one platform. Sure if you are a MS programmer this may be true, but for most people they may code on a Mac, but most of the programs are run on PC. This cross platform skill is one that may be lost in time. I know the two situations are not parallel, but the point is. Basic coding and debugging is often platform independent. It is the fact that one can only emulate the iOS that is the difficulty. But even that is not such a big deal. There are now several distinct devices that a program must function on. Even if you coded in iOS, and only had it running on the latest iPad, one would lose the market share of all the other devices.
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I think it's pretty damn hypocritical to complain Apple is trying to prevent Samsung from shipping devices while hoping Samsung can do the same to Apple...
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and Fuck Android. You asswipes don't know a good phone when you see one.
It's precisely because we know a good phone when we see one that we don't buy icrap products.
I was wrong about it automatically adjusting the app size up. It will letterbox...
But like I said since most apps already have to deal with height changes it will be mostly a re-compile (except for games).
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there's nothing good about a google phone other than the ability to easily steal commercial software. like everything google does, piracy of creative works is its main selling point. google + samsung = the biggest counterfeiter ring in world history!
If things just scaled with resolution, then targets would be too small for easy selection on a retina display. Of course, everything can be made resolution-independent so that objects rescale to a constant apparent size, but that will never look quite as nice as a display hand-optimized for a particular resolution.
To the uninitiated those statements may seem contradictory but you have to understand that that they were only meant for the primitive people of that time and with our better understanding of the glory of Jobs we can see a greater truth being revealed in the living Apple.
I think you just answered your own question!
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In a nutshell - their new "flagship" is failing to catch up with the innovation shown in Samsung's and HTC's new models. Comparing specs, the iPhone 5 looks like a yesteryear product. Looks like Apple is following Microsoft on a downwards spiral soon - as soon as the current generation of uncritical gullible fanboys dies out.
Apple also detailed the new connector, dubbed 'Lightning.' It's entirely digital, and 80% smaller than the old connector. It can be plugged in in either direction. Apple has created a bunch of adapters to let old cables and hardware work with Lightning.
All digital, so they're getting rid of all the audio/video analog pins that the fanboys have insisted is the reason Apple use the dock connector and not USB (despite android phones handling audio/video fine through USB).
Now they've gone all digital they're gone - exposing the fact that Apple have done this purely to use something different from anyone else, so as to increase their profits (through royalties on accessories using the dock connector) and lock people into the iPhone brand by buying accessories which don't work with anything else.
Then have different versions of textures and the like for normal and retina density classes, but allow screen size to vary somewhat within a single density class. For example, low-density textures could work with had a small screen device with 320x480 pixels or a slightly (physically) larger device with 360x640 pixels, and high-density textures would work on an iP4/4S with 640x960 or a larger device with 720x1280 pixels. Layouts would spread slightly on the larger device, revealing more document between the top and bottom toolbars. That's what Android does.
Yeah. I miss the times when web pages were finely crafted for a specific resolution.
They still are, using this CSS idiom: body { width: 950px; margin: 0 auto }
And I am a post-PC girl!
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Samsung's upset about a patented technology they actually own and invented.
That they ALSO agreed to share under reasonable terms with all other companies making communication devices. Should it be up to Samsung to decide who gets to ship an LTE phone? If so, should LTE really be declared a standard at all? It's not even like Apple coded the thing, they are just using a Qualcomm chip!
That is a far more heinous crime than Apple suing because some devices look essentially identical.
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Nevermind that Samsung also sued Apple. Nevermind that the iPhone was banned for two years in Korea.
What is Samsung supposed to be, Gandhi? If Apple sues Samsung, and Samsung counter sues back in self-defense, is that really "resorting to lawsuits" in your mind?
Let the hating begin - come on faggots - tell me how to fucking shop.
Who gives a shit? Seriously, this isn't even tech worthy. This would be news if Apple switched to open/standard codecs/protocols to allow interoperability with non Apple devices or they switched to USB 3, or opened the walled garden.
I am sure that it is a nice phone.
It may even outperform top end androids more than a couple of years old. I want to hear comparisons.
It may even use the version of 4G used by over 4% of humanity.
Apples market share will go up for a while as all their enthusiasts get the new "must have" device.
Then it will carry on falling and the 68% of smartphone users using Android increases and the 17% using iPhones will carry on falling.
why?
A couple of reasons but the biggest one is price. For those of us who pay nearly as much as iPhone users it is a bit more tortuous....
There is no ********* way I want to be mistaken for a brain dead, idiot who feels that having a #shiny iDevice will help me reach my aspirations in lifestyle or just becoming one of the "beautiful people"
It's a flaming smartphone, not a passport to a changed lifestyle!
I'll see your Constitution and raise you a Queen.
"How long before we here of the first major defect? Antenna, battery, something else"
Not as quickly as we can find a defect in your post!
Today is embarrassing for Apple. Seriously, this is what the Apple faithful get after all the hype of the last year? Sure seems familiar. Oh, yeah - I remember. It's what happened when they unleashed the 4S.
They really should have called it the iPhone 4S and called the current 4S the "4S classic". Do kind of a Coke/New Coke thing.
And EarPods? God today was a great day. So much shark jumping for Apple.
Apple started filing iPhone lawsuits years ago, and Steve Jobs made the company's intentions publicly known in his January 2007 keynote introduction of the iPhone.
If things just scaled with resolution, then targets would be too small for easy selection on a retina display.
I think you're confused.
The original iPhone had a 480 x 320 pixel screen @ 163 dpi. The iPhone 4's "Retina Display" was 960 x 640 @ 326 dpi. So pixel doubling would work fine. In fact, I'm pretty sure that when you ran an app that did not support the "Retina Display," it did just that. So the UI can scale just fine.
The problem is that bit-mapped graphics don't scale so well. So an image that looked good at 163 dpi will look blurry when doubled. The rule of thumb from my old days with bitmaps was that scaling anything more than 25% will start to show artifacts. So 200% will look ugly. The fact that the pixels are twice as close together, though, will remove the "ugly" and just make it look blurry.
So, other than bitmap graphics, scaling works fine. And there are plenty of ways to set things up so that different shapes work fine, as well. Heck, Apple does this with Cocoa--you can define where controls are placed in the window respective to the edges and to other controls so that if the user resizes the window, the controls move around appropriately.
That said, this assumes that you are using standard Cocoa-touch controls in your iOS app. Of course, most iOS apps are games which take over the screen, draw their own controls, etc., and they have to be sensitive to the shape of the screen. I'd imagine that most of them are not which is why the iPhone 5 will place those apps in a box that pretends it's 960 x 480.
"post-PC" does not mean "no PC"
Web pages are not apps. This new screen size has nothing to do with web browsing other than you can see a bit more of a web page.
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This is a good and interesting point.
I waited all this time to scan the comments because I figured I already knew what people would say. Virtually all the comments can be broken down into "Apple/iPhone sucks" and "Android did all this first". Reading the comments would one to assume the iPhone is a massive flop and hardly anyone owns one. The comments don't reflect the reality. The iPhone is still the most popular and it actually did a lot of what it does first. The original iPhone was a shock to the cell community and there was a mad scramble to catch up. Will the iPhone 5 flop? Of coarse not. Why would it? Overall it's still the best at what it does. I noticed a few comments sniping at the iPad as well. Here's the fundamental difference and why the iPhone and iPad won't fail, The user experience is far more pleasant. On most of the cell phones I find web surfing is just not worth it. That's why the providers were and are being crushed by iPhones, because people actually use them! I don't own an iPhone but I have a Touch and iPad, I don't actually have a cell at the moment. I use my Touch and iPad all the time to check e-mail and web surf. I keep the iPad next to my bed for late night movies, I even stream Netflix to it. Often I wake up and fire up the iPad to check for new e-mails or switch over to the web and check CNN to see if the world ended while I was asleep. All this is far quicker and easier on my iPad than my desktop. There may be a lot of venom leveled at iDevices by the geek community but it still doesn't change the fact that they are extremely useful and handy to have around. I was actually not all that impressed with the iPad at first because it looked like and is in fact an over sized Touch. After using one I have to say being so much larger makes them 10X more useful. I'd love to even see one 50% larger and I'm shocked Apple hasn't made an iTV that is a massive Touch device. It doesn't need a touch screen or batteries just a TV sized computer with a faster processor and all the features of a Touch. Just control it from a Touch. It seems obvious and if they released a 43" one for $1,200 I think they'd be a massive hit especially if they added a built in DVR function. Sour grapes aside the iPhone and iPad do what they do extremely well. They are a success for a reason and if Android devices truly had a better user experience I can't believe people wouldn't switch.
Huh. I have a 12 year old dumb phone (will probably get me an iPhone 5 finally) that I have never dropped once.
I think it's because it's a Motorola phone built to the MIL-SPEC for cell phones and can supposedly take some heavy abuse.
I'm sure I'll get the relatively more fragile iPhone and drop it on the way out of the store. ;-)
Who the hell baggage checks their laptop when they fly anywhere? Baggage handlers aren't really known for their excellent handling of baggage. The amount of checked luggage that goes missing is also a factor.
When do we get iphone 5 versions of cases?
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Apple can now sue itself for copying the look and feel of their previous models.
I'd say we're still in the PC world. It's just that the "P" stands for portable now. In fact you could argue it's even more "personal" than the previous "PC".
I'm a wanker.... and loving it!
The sandbox is now letterboxed
Yea, that was kind of my point. I figured the insanity of the rest of that sentence would have been enough of a hint ;)
Then a user tilts the phone into landscape mode and all that rationale dissapears.
If an app supports rotation it will DEFIANTLY be adjusted to work properly since the form factor is strange on the side and apps that can rotate have been wired out the wazoo to adjust to different sizes.
However most apps simply don't support rotation, or support only limited rotation for a few things like video - where turning to the side causes no issues...
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Ut oh, now they probably have filed a patent for letter boxing an app onto a (phone) screen
...for whatever it's worth, jailbreaking can largely close that particular gap. That's obviously not an excuse for the hubris of the Clan of Steve, but it's still... y'know, true.
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Ah, so you can get that particular point in the geek phone pissing content with Apple as well, as long as you jailbreak (And what geek in such a contest wouldn't?) Good to know...I guess. ;)
I think no body else can know anything about iPhone 5 features until apple company release it!!
I can't wait to read the news about Apple being sued for using Samsung LTE patents. They were just waiting for it to be officially released incase something changed and it appears it hasn't. Apple is still declaring that it supports LTE. So a lawsuit shall be on it's way in the next day or so I imagine. Will be nice... hilariously so, to see Apple have sales of it's own new Iphone 5 banned from sale in the united states if not more LOL.
That would just make me so happy... *sniff sniff*. I mean perhaps not a permanent ban. maybe a bit of apple drops it's bans on all samsung products and forgives all debts from whatever they might have won in court (even though the court was practically a sham, I mean come on, they ignored all prior art... like the only thing that could wiggle in and make a patent invalid).
Oh and about web traffic, yeah, uhh that has "nothing" to do with the fact that most other tablets focus on better specs and hardware quality instead of adding in a overpriced cell transceiver to their products....right? I mean I'd rather pay 199-299 for better hardware than even the new iphone and ipad than spend 800 for a lesser quality tablet that has 3g built in. I'd rather tether to my galaxy nexus for it's unlimited 4g (yep still grandfathered into that and won't lose it.. i know about the upgrade crap and all that). So if I want internet on my tablet and I'm away from my home wifi I just tether. Lots faster and cheaper.
Oh... glad someone cleared that up. I thought they were using the word "post" in the traditional way and I just couldn't see how it made any sense.
-Lod
I didn't know Samsung was so eager to get in a spat with Qualcomm again...
There is still no serious Android competitor to the new iPad, with its unparalleled 2048x1536 display.
Ye, there is. Because the Android OEM ecosystem is versatile, you can go with the low-res screens for $40-$150, the standard res screens ($150-$350), or fork out for the higher res screens ($350+) such as the Transformer Infinity (1920x1200, 224ppi) or the Iconia A700 (1920x1200, 224ppi). Yes, they are not 264ppi like the iPad 3, but with a blind A/B test, it's tough for people to distinguish that difference. And these screens can emit brighter than the iPad's (For the Prime, way brighter), and as Big Box stores have found, for many people an enhanced dynamic range with brightness is a often a bigger eye candy sales factor than resolution (cf, 720p plasma screens).
And I'm not even going near Android phone screens, where you run a continuum of ppi screens from crappy through the 200s into the 300s that sometimes are equivalent to exceed the iPhone's 326 ppi and, again, with OLED tech look way punchier.
... and so can, by extension, Qualcomm's customers.
Really?! hate to break it to you apple but the rasberry pi for $25 already has around the equivalent of the first xbox. new smartphones already outpace the xbox 360 and ps3 in potential graphics performance as well as other technical specs like cpu and memory. This is easy to see since their are emulators that let you play games for xbox, and ps1 upwards on most new phones or tablets. So not much of an accomplishment. Especially with a screen that isn't even as good as the galaxy nexus that's been out for almost a year.... I mean Apple... you even paying attention to your product design or too busy suing people for stupid reasons?
Oh god lightning? You epic fail for the stupid dock connector itself, especially after I saw the price (like 35+ for a 0.2meter cable). The rest of the world uses micro usb, but apple is special and has to go with some stupid ass connector that cost a fortune since nobody else uses it and just an fyi to all manufacturers of 3rd party devices that support apple, remember that apple I believe themselves said they would sue you into oblivion for using their patented cable/port design until they milked enough money from it. toodles!
Sorry, but this thing is still basically just a telephone, right?
A telephone.
The big story here, the focus of interest, shouldn't be about a telephone. It should be about the amazing marketing job perpetrated by Apple on the public. Now that's interesting.
It's a TELEPHONE.
FFS.
There is still no serious Android competitor to the new iPad, with its unparalleled 2048x1536 display.
Ye, there is. Because the Android OEM ecosystem is versatile, you can go with the low-res screens for $40-$150, the standard res screens ($150-$350), or fork out for the higher res screens ($350+) such as the Transformer Infinity (1920x1200, 224ppi) or the Iconia A700 (1920x1200, 224ppi). Yes, they are not 264ppi like the iPad 3, but with a blind A/B test, it's tough for people to distinguish that difference. And these screens can emit brighter than the iPad's (For the Prime, way brighter), and as Big Box stores have found, for many people an enhanced dynamic range with brightness is a often a bigger eye candy sales factor than resolution (cf, 720p plasma screens).
And I'm not even going near Android phone screens, where you run a continuum of ppi screens from crappy through the 200s into the 300s that sometimes are equivalent to exceed the iPhone's 326 ppi and, again, with OLED tech look way punchier.
There is still no serious Android competitor to the new iPad, with its unparalleled 2048x1536 display.
Ye, there is. Because the Android OEM ecosystem is versatile, you can go with the low-res screens for $50-$150, the standard res screens ($150-$350), or fork out for the higher res screens ($350+) such as the Transformer Infinity (1920x1200, 224ppi) or the Iconia A700 (1920x1200, 224ppi). Yes, they are not 264ppi like the iPad 3, but with a blind A/B test, it's tough for people to distinguish that difference. And these screens can emit brighter than the iPad's (For the Prime, way brighter), and as Big Box stores have found, for many people an enhanced dynamic range with brightness is a often a bigger eye candy sales factor than resolution (cf, 720p plasma screens).
And I'm not even going near Android phone screens, where you run a continuum of ppi screens from crappy through the 200s into the 300s that sometimes are equivalent to exceed the iPhone's 326 ppi and, again, with OLED tech look way punchier.
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Tablets and smart phones are great output devices, kinda like TV of the 1960's. Content creation? meh. 143 letters of prose. Shaky picture with the phone. "I took teh video of teh most kewel stuff: and what do you see?: sky, ground,sky,ground,sky,ground,sky,ground. And now we have the Alpha baby boomers lining up to buy the big people version of the speak and spell. Well thanks for letting me know.
I have spoken to a fair share of ex-Foxconn workers as I am regularly in Shenzen and whilst you read all the stuff about the things that happen in the Apple factory, it's not that bad for every factory within Foxconn.
It's my understanding that Apple merely "rents" space and machinery from Foxconn and that the management and everything else is outsourced. Whether this is a request from Apple or Foxconn I have no idea but it's a bit more settling knowing that not every Foxconn factory is the same.
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post-PC world those who can code buys a laptop, make mobile applications and has a huge market for their creations
What girl wouldn't get excited by an iPhone with the appropriate apps http://gizmodo.com/5295987/myvibe-thighs+on-first-iphone-vibrator-app-approved-by-apple-nsfw ?
Yeah, that works great, if you have only a tiny number of devices (one phone, one tablet, and half a dozen or so older devices "still sold" at best), but it breaks down if you have hordes of different devices. Now if you assume that you alone know what everyone wants in a phone, than you can get crazy enough to go this way.
Btw, starting with phone size, it's personal, and it's partially biological, you know hand size => I've got persons around here that swear never again smaller than 5", and others that complain that they cannot hold a 5" device.
Anyway, a local price compare site shows me slightly over 100 different Android 4 models (Android 4 kind of equals to reasonably new), even if divide it by three to account for different colors/different storage sizes, you end up to over 3 dozen different Androids versus one iPhone.
Basically, Apple's setup of tiny number of devices, hand crafted displays, runs against an eco system that can deliver atypical devices, e.g. Dual-SIM support.
Apple wants to pay the same licensing fees all other mobile companies pay - no more, no less.
How is that not fair?
In fact ALL they want to do is play by the same rules as everyone else and not be treated specially.
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Apple and Samsung won't stop suing each other until Apple is dead.
99% of people don't code. In 1990 99% of people didn't own a computer. PC's aren't going away, they are just going to stop being the personal thing every single person must own that sits in the corner and gets used to check email. We are post iron age, we still use iron. post-pc means instead of every one and their grandmother having a pc and running to geek squad to get their viruses removed they'll have an tablet or phone.
My grandma uses a tablet to play her card games, she doesn't have a computer, its just easier this way.
But, there are FIVE rows of apps. That's the point isn't it? It doesn't matter that there are borders when using apps does it? FIVE rows.. count 'em.
I didn't bother to mention pixel doubling because it doesn't work "just fine." Yes, it's better than trying to scale by a non-integer factor, but it still looks pretty chunky, and was only a stopgap when Retina Displays were introduced. iOS Apps that do not include RD resolution icons are no longer considered acceptable by Apple.
And automatic scaling of non-bitmapped "object graphics" does not work "just fine," either. That's why fonts use "hinting" to optimize display on raster displays. The problem is less on very high resolution displays, so automated scaling may be acceptable on a RD display, but not at anything less than that.
In any case, all of this is quite irrelevant to the iPhone 5, since none of the screen elements need to be scaled, as the resolution is identical to the iPhone 4. The issue is that the additional screen area means that display layout should be adjusted to make optimum use of the additional area--for example, the icon screen now shows an additional row of icons. The best way to do this is very dependent upon the nature of an app's display, so it doesn't make sense to try to do it in an general, automated way. And for almost all apps, it would a trivial job for a human to include a layout for one additional screen size--far less work (and likely a better outcome) than trying a general algorithm to "fit" that app to any conceivable screen shape.
So letterboxing as an interim solution for the few weeks until app developers can post an updated version makes a great deal of sense.
"just with borders on the top and bottom." - The fact that this is at +5 PROVES COOL-AID drinking. Borders are what happens when a resolution doesn't make sense, it's the worst/universal solution for this kind of idiocy, the only alternative is stretching but that looks strange, especially where the colours need to blend.
I can only assume from this that you are one of those guys who zooms letterbox dvds to fill the entire screen and don't care about losing information in the process? I prefer to have the black bars and view the content as originally intended.
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My pay-as-you-go dumb phone has cost me about $4/month over the past 3 1/2 years, and my $200 ASUS netbook is a real portable computer for when I need that. Why on earth would I want to spend two or three times as much as my netbook, plus ten or 15 times as much per month for no substantial difference in functionality? Well, I'm off to comb my gray beard...
You think post-modernism only came along after there wasn't any modernism any more?
Not every display is a list. Apple's solution gives you a pixel-perfect display for older apps, insuring that no apps "break" on the iPhone 5. There is no automated routine that could promise that. And if you've ever looked at Apple's development environment, you know that telling an app to include a longer list on the iPhone 5 will be literally a few minutes worth of work. The only ones where it will take any appreciable effort on the part of developers are the very ones for which an automated routine wouldn't work.
The iPhone 4 does not introduce a new screen resolution--it's exactly the same as the iPhone 4. So a "universal" app (that runs on all iOS devices) needs to accommodate 4 resolutions (same as before) and 3 screen layouts (one more than before). Wow, what terrible fragmentation!
"The casing is made entirely of glass and aluminum"
I guess I'm not getting one.
The new Apple Longphone.
now we just have to wait a few months for the Samsung Tallphone.
For me one of the big upgrades with this phone is the Maps application. Getting turn by turn directions is one of the main reasons that I switched to an Android phone. Google maps is fantastic for that and I wasn't about to pay Apple or AT&T a fee every month for something that comes free with the Android phone. Now that the new iPhone comes with this feature all that remains to be seen is how well it works. Being able to do Facetime over 4G is nice but it only works with other iPhones...well, that and I can see that eating up a lot of your monthly data stipend. Faster processor (A6) should make it a bit snappier. There appear to be some improvements with the camera optics so that might translate into better photos although, honestly, the photos I have seen from the 4S phone are really good already. Apparently the new headphones are a nice improvement over the old ones.
Now for the bad part....
1) You still can't add storage via MicroSD. This has been discussed on other threads here and it's still one of my pet peeves with the iPhone.
2) You still have to use iTunes to get anything on or off the phone.
3) It appears that the battery is still not user serviceable. That means another trip to the Genius Bar for something as simple as replacing a battery.
4) I'm not sure I like the idea of the new connector. Ok, it's got the reversible (idiot proof) hook up but now all of your previous ones are obsolete. If you want a second cable be prepared to pay through the iNose for it. Apparently they needed the space so the connector is smaller now. I wonder if it charges any faster or is it just newer and smaller?
I know why Apple is doing this I'm just not good with it. I like having more control of my phone. Having said all that, it looks like a nice upgrade for the iFans out there.
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If you balk because a bluetooth keyboard is not included with the purchase price, maybe you could tell me which desktop computer I can buy with a decent bluetooth keyboard included for free.
Well, er, the iMac.
Yes I do. But then again I also think that's why there aren't toasties anymore.
Yes because the Post-PC would is inhabited only by developers. Yeesh.
as i recall, my post-graduate studies began only after my graduation had been completed. yet I don't believe it would have been accurate for me to declare that "we now live in a post-graduate world" in my commencement speech. for apple to claim we are in a "post-pc" world is similarly ridiculous. they might call their gadgets "post-pc" gadgets, and they might even be right, but the world in general is decidedly not post PC.
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the world in general is decidedly not post PC.
Not yet, but it's certainly heading that way.
the world in general is decidedly not post PC.
Not yet, but it's certainly heading that way.
I see little evidence of that. Something may replace PCs someday, but it certainly won't be any of the gadgets we have today and it probably won't be a tablet at all. Current tablets are good for very simple tasks and/or very simple users. Mostly home users that don't have need to do any business tasks. That is a space that PCs never served well in the first place. Tablets are horrible for anything more than a very lightweight business use, and this is a massive arena the PC dominates. As long as business is based on PCs, it's a PC world no matter what you play with at home.
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I see little evidence of that.
How about: Apple sold more units of it's tablet than ANY PC manufacturer sold of all their PCs lines added together last quarter.
...and yet ~90 million PCs are sold every quarter, compared to 25 million tablets in Apple's best quarter. Picking a single manufacture of tablets that enjoys a massive majority market share and comparing it to individual competitors in the PC market makes little sense (unless, of course, you're looking for flawed statistics that at surface level seem to support some argument).
Despite the fact that PCs have a longer lifetime, higher cost, and a marketplace that is very much saturated (it's a wee bit harder to sell something when all of your potential customers already have one), PCs still move nearly 4x as many units every quarter.
Sorry, not buying the hype.
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PCs still move nearly 4x as many units every quarter.
Now consider that sales of Apple's tablets are a fraction of their sales of smartphones. And Apple aren't even the largest smartphone manufacturer. Smartphones vastly outsell PCs, and have done for some time.
i.e. Non-PC general purpose computers already vastly outsell PC computers.
so now "post-pc" also refers to smartphones? Thats odd, since smartphones have existed for 15 years (yes, long before Apple invented them) and the term "post-pc" didn't show up until the recent tablet fad. Never heard anyone theorize that smartphones will replace the PC.
I don't doubt that someday something will do what PCs do better than PCs do it, and at that point we will see a post-pc world. That isn't going to be tablets and its not going to be smartphones. It would take something significantly better at doing the things business does than either of those are. Right now we are in a "PC plus" world. There are other computing devices that do new things, or some things in new ways, and they are very good for that. However, the PC's role as a primary business tool used by people in almost every position of almost every company in the world is not going to change simply because we've invented some new gadgets.
-Lod
Now? They always were. If you didn't know that then that's your problem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-PC_era
I don't doubt that someday something will do what PCs do better than PCs do it, and at that point we will see a post-pc world.
You're missing the point. It's not about replacing the PC with a single device. It's that the PC will (and in a way already has become) a minority device, vastly outweighed numbers and in time spent using them by ubiquitous computing in many other sorts of device. And whilst the term post-pc wasn't coined until recently, that concept was the topic of Donald Norman's book "The Invisible Computer" published back in 1999.