they arent going to be making a profit from these phones. i 100% guarantee you that the cost of the production will go over the 32M. they also arent going to be selling this phone after the campaign is over... so it isnt like we are funding teh overhead while they make profit on the newer models... there are no newer models, this is it.(at least until the next crowdfunding campaign). the point of this is to show the major manufacturers that there is a market for top of the line phones... so that we can make a huge change in the market and actually see some phones with technology that came out in the last 5 years...
we arent giving them money... this is crowdfunding, we are putting our money forward to fund the production of something we want. shuttleworth has already announced that if the production cost goes over the 32M we funded, they will foot the rest of the bill... even if it is millions of dollars.
it may seem like they are racing along to the average user, but in actually they are racing along with technology that has been out for years. even if they keep "racing along", they will still be a few years behind the absolute best. the new samsung galaxy phones will still be using lithium ion batteries... which are known for their terrible charge density and horrible battery life. silicon anode technology has been out for a year or so in its current form, and they get 3x the charge density and will last 5000 cycles with only a 10% loss in life. a lithium battery will last maybe a year before you need to replace it.
dont compare a budget phone with a top of the line piece of hardware. obviously you can go to a store and buy yourself a piece of junk desktop for 200-400$... but any real desktop will cost you 1500-2k in parts.
also dont forget that the ubuntu os for the phones is super cool and easy to use. the os is already available for testing on certain phones if you want to test it out.
if shutteleworth says they will ship in may, they will ship in may. canonical is not an unknown company.... they have a lot of money, a lot of manpower, and a lot of innovation.
according to the research ive done, no phones will come close to the edge by may. the top of the line phones will have 3gb of ram, and a quad core processor at best. they will also still be using lithium ion batteries, which are nowhere near as good as silicon anode batteries. also, i read somewhere that samsung has decided to use HD glass for their new phones instead of gorilla glass... which just means they will break way more often.
im guessing that youve never bought a phone outside of a carrier contract. you know those phones you get for 150$ when you upgrade every other year? yea... those are 500 or 600$ phones... the phone company is just subsidising it and making their money back by increasing the price of your contract to balance it.
this. the problem is that all the major phone manufacturers have created this mindset of "higher resolution is better" and put themselves in a resolution race that only serves to drain the battery and burn out the processor faster.
you are such a pessimist, lol... they cant do that, everyone in the linux world would hate them for it. if they realize later during production that they cant do it with just the 32M, canonical will front the rest to realize its goals.
that would be a really stupid business move on canonical's part. it wont be a budget phone, because they have no reason for it to be one. we arent buying phones here, we are funding the production of a limited edition superphone, which will be the basis for years to come. we are all tired of budget phones... instead of being a pessimist, you should fund the project and hope that it changes the market and we will be able to buy decently powerful phones at some point in the next decade.
the phone is valued at more than 800 dollars. they have all the ranges of prices so that ppl think "oh, i need to get one earlier rather than later" instead of "meh, ill get one at the end of the campaign". if they reduce the price to 600$... the phone would have to be a shit phone, because the parts in it alone are worth more than that.
also, theres no reason to have full hd... anything above 720p is just wasted overhead.
they wont ever be for sale. these are all limited edition. assuming they meet the 32M goal... it WILL be a superphone... if they dont meet the 32M goal, there will be no phones at all, and everyone gets their money back.
im a hardcore atheist who is definitely pro choice and have absolutely no part in any cults, and if i had mod points, i would have modded you down as well. it is obvious that you are being a flamebait, either that or your parents should have washed your mouth out with soap when you were younger.
the "killer bee" was a genetic crossbreed between a docile honeybee who doesnt make much honey and an african honeybee that is incredible agressive but makes a lot of honey. the attempt was to create a bee that was docile but created a lot of honey, but instead, it created an incredibly agressive bee that doesnt make honey.
it wouldnt have been a problem if someone didnt break into the lab and "accicdentally" let the queen loose. now we have a ton of africanized bees out there that kill people who come near their nests
certain companies that create genetically modified plants have left a bad taste in our mouths. and the problem is the government seems to support them even though they are total assholes. i dont mind the premise behind genetically modified foods... i mind the fact that companies can modify their strain of a plant to be incredibly dominant, which then spreads into other areas, giving the company grounds for a lawsuit.
that being said, i think a lot of ppl dont like the idea of genetically modified foods because "humans shouldnt be playing god"... i believe they are under some misconception that there is a god playing a direct part in the evolution of plants and animals.
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they arent going to be making a profit from these phones. i 100% guarantee you that the cost of the production will go over the 32M. they also arent going to be selling this phone after the campaign is over... so it isnt like we are funding teh overhead while they make profit on the newer models... there are no newer models, this is it.(at least until the next crowdfunding campaign). the point of this is to show the major manufacturers that there is a market for top of the line phones... so that we can make a huge change in the market and actually see some phones with technology that came out in the last 5 years...
we arent giving them money... this is crowdfunding, we are putting our money forward to fund the production of something we want. shuttleworth has already announced that if the production cost goes over the 32M we funded, they will foot the rest of the bill... even if it is millions of dollars.
there is a way to use paypal without actually having a paypal account.
it may seem like they are racing along to the average user, but in actually they are racing along with technology that has been out for years. even if they keep "racing along", they will still be a few years behind the absolute best. the new samsung galaxy phones will still be using lithium ion batteries... which are known for their terrible charge density and horrible battery life. silicon anode technology has been out for a year or so in its current form, and they get 3x the charge density and will last 5000 cycles with only a 10% loss in life. a lithium battery will last maybe a year before you need to replace it.
dont compare a budget phone with a top of the line piece of hardware. obviously you can go to a store and buy yourself a piece of junk desktop for 200-400$... but any real desktop will cost you 1500-2k in parts.
they have some prototypes... that being said, they are going to wait as long as possible to make sure it has the best specs available at launch.
also dont forget that the ubuntu os for the phones is super cool and easy to use. the os is already available for testing on certain phones if you want to test it out.
if shutteleworth says they will ship in may, they will ship in may. canonical is not an unknown company.... they have a lot of money, a lot of manpower, and a lot of innovation.
an iphone without contract costs you around 600$ in the US, and about 900 in eu. when the galaxy s2 came out, it was 550$ in the US.
according to the research ive done, no phones will come close to the edge by may. the top of the line phones will have 3gb of ram, and a quad core processor at best. they will also still be using lithium ion batteries, which are nowhere near as good as silicon anode batteries. also, i read somewhere that samsung has decided to use HD glass for their new phones instead of gorilla glass... which just means they will break way more often.
sd cards are pointless. it has 128gb of ssd. would you put a sd card in your desktop for storage? i think not.
im guessing that youve never bought a phone outside of a carrier contract. you know those phones you get for 150$ when you upgrade every other year? yea... those are 500 or 600$ phones... the phone company is just subsidising it and making their money back by increasing the price of your contract to balance it.
this. the problem is that all the major phone manufacturers have created this mindset of "higher resolution is better" and put themselves in a resolution race that only serves to drain the battery and burn out the processor faster.
lemme ask you this. if you dont help fund the edge, are you ACTUALLY going to spend the 700$ on something else? or is just going to sit in your bank?
you are such a pessimist, lol... they cant do that, everyone in the linux world would hate them for it. if they realize later during production that they cant do it with just the 32M, canonical will front the rest to realize its goals.
that would be a really stupid business move on canonical's part. it wont be a budget phone, because they have no reason for it to be one. we arent buying phones here, we are funding the production of a limited edition superphone, which will be the basis for years to come. we are all tired of budget phones... instead of being a pessimist, you should fund the project and hope that it changes the market and we will be able to buy decently powerful phones at some point in the next decade.
the phone is valued at more than 800 dollars. they have all the ranges of prices so that ppl think "oh, i need to get one earlier rather than later" instead of "meh, ill get one at the end of the campaign". if they reduce the price to 600$... the phone would have to be a shit phone, because the parts in it alone are worth more than that. also, theres no reason to have full hd... anything above 720p is just wasted overhead.
theres no reason not to buy one... if it doesnt meet the goal, everyone gets their money back.
they wont ever be for sale. these are all limited edition. assuming they meet the 32M goal... it WILL be a superphone... if they dont meet the 32M goal, there will be no phones at all, and everyone gets their money back.
im a hardcore atheist who is definitely pro choice and have absolutely no part in any cults, and if i had mod points, i would have modded you down as well. it is obvious that you are being a flamebait, either that or your parents should have washed your mouth out with soap when you were younger.
conventional breeding is still genetic engineering... albeit oldfashioned.
the "killer bee" was a genetic crossbreed between a docile honeybee who doesnt make much honey and an african honeybee that is incredible agressive but makes a lot of honey. the attempt was to create a bee that was docile but created a lot of honey, but instead, it created an incredibly agressive bee that doesnt make honey. it wouldnt have been a problem if someone didnt break into the lab and "accicdentally" let the queen loose. now we have a ton of africanized bees out there that kill people who come near their nests
or we should learn to mimic nature and not care if we kill off a species or two
yea, i dont think anyone has forgotten the killer bee incident.
certain companies that create genetically modified plants have left a bad taste in our mouths. and the problem is the government seems to support them even though they are total assholes. i dont mind the premise behind genetically modified foods... i mind the fact that companies can modify their strain of a plant to be incredibly dominant, which then spreads into other areas, giving the company grounds for a lawsuit. that being said, i think a lot of ppl dont like the idea of genetically modified foods because "humans shouldnt be playing god"... i believe they are under some misconception that there is a god playing a direct part in the evolution of plants and animals.