> It was religion, both Christian and muslim, that brought us this tragedy.
Uh, no.
This tragedy was caused by a radical, militant, fanatical misinterpretation of Islam.
Similarly, the actions of the current IRA and the past Crusades are the result of a similar misinterpretation of Christianity.
Neither religion teaches violence or hate.
> As firm beleiver in the seperation of church and state, I find the President declaring a "national day of prayer" downright un-American.
Well, for the record I also believe in the separation of church and state. Uniting them only screws up religion and the state both!
But remember that America was founded on principles relating to God and religion. Nearly all our founding fathers acknowledged God, if not Jesus. Therefore I think DIScouraging prayer is un-American. Note that nearly all religions (except atheism) involve prayer. No one is saying you have to pray to Jesus.
But Jesus is the only diety that is actually alive to HEAR the prayers.:-)
Well, God "lets" lots of things happen. There is a lot of evil and hate in the world, and God has given us free will. Hard to accept, but true.
As for specifically why God let it happen, I think there are a few possibilities. He wants to get our attention. Badly. Now you're saying "then why doesn't he just show himself!" Well, to some, He does - either directly or indirectly.
But God showing himself often doesn't do too much good. The Old Testament is full of stories about God physically manifesting Himself to His people. And guess what -- they kept getting farther and farther away from Him. it finally took their exile to Babylon to really get their attention, and there was a joyous celebration upon the people's return to isreal.
In a similar way, I really believe that God will use this to draw many, many people to Himself. He works in all things for good for those that love Him. What Satan has meant for evil, God has meant for good.
I'm not God of course, so I'm just spouting of speculation, but I am fairly convinced there's some truth in this.
Why would something so trivial with some "followers" drive you away?
Has your belief changed? Do you still believe Christ is who He said He is? If so why would you want to abandon Him?
People of all sorts do stupid things. I used to look down on people with tattoos, guys with long hair and earrings and all that (I was raised in a pretty sheltered Christian environment) but lately I've seen that there's no point at all in that, and it's just downright dumb. Jesus certainly would not have done that.
But my faith remains strong. I continue to see how God works and continue to be amazed. Why dump Him?
I haven't read it, but I've heard about it and its author. The guy basically throws out most or all of the divine nature of the Bible, says all prophesy has already been fulfilled (giving us no hope for the future), and tells us we can live however the heck we want.
That is well outside of orthodox Christianity. I'd really recommend avoiding it.
I actually searched through the user comments for "prayer", expecting to see a flood of "how DARE you tell me to pray! What a crock!" but didn't find ANY.
I know that attitude runs among some people, but I'm pleased you could restrain yourselves this time. There really is a time for prayer, and this is certainly one of those times.
Not that it matters much. The only stuff I serve from home is personal experimentation type projects, and I just give people the URL including the numeric IP address anyway. So appending a:81 or:8080 to that address I give people would have been no big deal.
I'm not sure when GEOS/64 was released, but I don't think it was before mid 1985. That's when I got my C-64. Eventually they started bundling it with 64s, but I don't think that started until 1986. I'm not sure how long it existed before the bundle.
Now I wish I hadn't gotten rid of a huge stack of Compute's Gazette magazines from the mid-80s. One could probably find a lot in there.:-)
No, this isn't a troll and it's not offtopic. It's not meant to spark a religious debate. I posted it so people of this persuasion would know about it. Thanks.
Complete filters don't do too much good if the program doesn't support all the features. Footnotes, for example, are missing from some of these.
Filters are certainly important, but we won't have truly won the battle for open standards until proprietary closed formats like Office are no longer the de-facto format that everyone expects. I want these programs to stand on their own merit.
Office suites are commodity software that everyone needs, and Open Source offerings in this area are increasingly impressive. So I think there's hope.
I think that was Cyrix. It was indeed the "speed of an equivelent Intel chip". Yuck. I don't know of that's precisely what AMD is doing here or if they're just pulling numbers out of their arses.
I've looked through the Slash 2 source code and poked around it some and plan to write some plugins. They didn't do a bad job at all. Sure, Python would probably be a better choice, but Slash is better than 85% of Perl code out there.
Well, Loki could make contracts that would allow simply selling patches. Hopefully they could arrange that by paying little to no royalties -- after all it would result in more sales for the original 'doze game.
Yikes, this thing was at Score: 5 a few minutes ago, now it's at Score: 2. I don't want to think about how many valuable mod points this troll just stoll from the system!!!
I agree that *temporarily* blocking it may be a good idea for stopping Code Red. But for crying out loud, don't *permanently* block it, or I'm gonna look at DSL. (There are several DSL companies, so *one* of them should be good.)
Well I'm on @Home and I'm not sure if this has to do with Code Red or not, but my cable modem light indicating bandwidth use has been flashing pretty much CONSTANTLY since Sunday or so, even when the computer was off!
I know it's more than port 80 hits, because there's not a constant stream of them in my log file, and I don't even run the web server most of the time. I get plenty of them when it does run, but it's got to be more than that.
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> It was religion, both Christian and muslim, that brought us this tragedy.
:-)
Uh, no.
This tragedy was caused by a radical, militant, fanatical misinterpretation of Islam.
Similarly, the actions of the current IRA and the past Crusades are the result of a similar misinterpretation of Christianity.
Neither religion teaches violence or hate.
> As firm beleiver in the seperation of church and state, I find the President declaring a "national day of prayer" downright un-American.
Well, for the record I also believe in the separation of church and state. Uniting them only screws up religion and the state both!
But remember that America was founded on principles relating to God and religion. Nearly all our founding fathers acknowledged God, if not Jesus. Therefore I think DIScouraging prayer is un-American. Note that nearly all religions (except atheism) involve prayer. No one is saying you have to pray to Jesus.
But Jesus is the only diety that is actually alive to HEAR the prayers.
Well, God "lets" lots of things happen. There is a lot of evil and hate in the world, and God has given us free will. Hard to accept, but true.
As for specifically why God let it happen, I think there are a few possibilities. He wants to get our attention. Badly. Now you're saying "then why doesn't he just show himself!" Well, to some, He does - either directly or indirectly.
But God showing himself often doesn't do too much good. The Old Testament is full of stories about God physically manifesting Himself to His people. And guess what -- they kept getting farther and farther away from Him. it finally took their exile to Babylon to really get their attention, and there was a joyous celebration upon the people's return to isreal.
In a similar way, I really believe that God will use this to draw many, many people to Himself. He works in all things for good for those that love Him. What Satan has meant for evil, God has meant for good.
I'm not God of course, so I'm just spouting of speculation, but I am fairly convinced there's some truth in this.
> This is what drove me away.
Why would something so trivial with some "followers" drive you away?
Has your belief changed? Do you still believe Christ is who He said He is? If so why would you want to abandon Him?
People of all sorts do stupid things. I used to look down on people with tattoos, guys with long hair and earrings and all that (I was raised in a pretty sheltered Christian environment) but lately I've seen that there's no point at all in that, and it's just downright dumb. Jesus certainly would not have done that.
But my faith remains strong. I continue to see how God works and continue to be amazed. Why dump Him?
re: "Why Christianity must Change or Die"
I haven't read it, but I've heard about it and its author. The guy basically throws out most or all of the divine nature of the Bible, says all prophesy has already been fulfilled (giving us no hope for the future), and tells us we can live however the heck we want.
That is well outside of orthodox Christianity. I'd really recommend avoiding it.
I agree Slashdot did a gre job on Tuesday.
I actually searched through the user comments for "prayer", expecting to see a flood of "how DARE you tell me to pray! What a crock!" but didn't find ANY.
I know that attitude runs among some people, but I'm pleased you could restrain yourselves this time. There really is a time for prayer, and this is certainly one of those times.
I was never even blocked in the first place!
:81 or :8080 to that address I give people would have been no big deal.
Not that it matters much. The only stuff I serve from home is personal experimentation type projects, and I just give people the URL including the numeric IP address anyway. So appending a
I'm not sure when GEOS/64 was released, but I don't think it was before mid 1985. That's when I got my C-64. Eventually they started bundling it with 64s, but I don't think that started until 1986. I'm not sure how long it existed before the bundle.
:-)
Now I wish I hadn't gotten rid of a huge stack of Compute's Gazette magazines from the mid-80s. One could probably find a lot in there.
Wycliffe Bible Translaters is always in need of more computers, and they take donations.
No, this isn't a troll and it's not offtopic. It's not meant to spark a religious debate. I posted it so people of this persuasion would know about it. Thanks.
Complete filters don't do too much good if the program doesn't support all the features. Footnotes, for example, are missing from some of these.
Filters are certainly important, but we won't have truly won the battle for open standards until proprietary closed formats like Office are no longer the de-facto format that everyone expects. I want these programs to stand on their own merit.
Office suites are commodity software that everyone needs, and Open Source offerings in this area are increasingly impressive. So I think there's hope.
I think that was Cyrix. It was indeed the "speed of an equivelent Intel chip". Yuck. I don't know of that's precisely what AMD is doing here or if they're just pulling numbers out of their arses.
Either way maybe it's time to move back to Intel.
I suppose that will still work correctly right? Isn't that taken from kernel callibration routines instead of BIOS?
On my Athlon 700:
cpu MHz : 700.044
Huh? I looked at their site recently and they haven't released anything since March. I thought they were almost dead.
These things would be perfect even for programming, really. Especially if you're into server side development and use Perl or Python.
If you need a sophisticated IDE then yeah, X terminals may not cut it. KDevelop should work on them. I'm not sure about Kylix.
Even things like the GIMP work fine over X over ethernet. I've done it.
But things like video editing and of course games would not be well suited to X terminals. But how many office users use (or should use) such things?
I've looked through the Slash 2 source code and poked around it some and plan to write some plugins. They didn't do a bad job at all. Sure, Python would probably be a better choice, but Slash is better than 85% of Perl code out there.
Well, Loki could make contracts that would allow simply selling patches. Hopefully they could arrange that by paying little to no royalties -- after all it would result in more sales for the original 'doze game.
I've seen it at scores 5,2,4,0,and 3 in that order.
Particularly noteworthy is the person that moderated it "Insightful".....
Will it get 30 or more mods? Only time will tell!
Yikes, I just about used those guys. Then I found www.bchosting.com and have been fairly happy with them so far....
but granted, it IS the funniest troll I have *ever* seen!!!!!!!! I'm still ROTFL an hour later....
Yikes, this thing was at Score: 5 a few minutes ago, now it's at Score: 2. I don't want to think about how many valuable mod points this troll just stoll from the system!!!
I don't even use procmail. And my (several) e-mail address haven't been particularly secret.
Can you believe I have not ever received one single Sircam OR "love bug" mail?
> Yeah that'd be swell, blockign outgoing port 80.
Then what would you use it for.... gopher?
my port 80 still works.
I agree that *temporarily* blocking it may be a good idea for stopping Code Red. But for crying out loud, don't *permanently* block it, or I'm gonna look at DSL. (There are several DSL companies, so *one* of them should be good.)
I have RH 7.1. Untarred the install file. It ran and downloaded everything. When it was done ... segfault!
If I run the installer again, it does apparently find the files that were downloaded, but segfaults without installing them.
Did that happen to anyone else? Workarounds?
Well I'm on @Home and I'm not sure if this has to do with Code Red or not, but my cable modem light indicating bandwidth use has been flashing pretty much CONSTANTLY since Sunday or so, even when the computer was off!
I know it's more than port 80 hits, because there's not a constant stream of them in my log file, and I don't even run the web server most of the time. I get plenty of them when it does run, but it's got to be more than that.