There are certainly pros and cons, as do all things. The stability of the IDE is somewhat disappointing -- I've crashed it several times already. The IDE is a bit on the slow side (but the compiler and the apps run quickly). The IDE's problems are probably due to the fact that it runs under wineserver, which was IMHO a sad design decision.
It is easy to learn and use though. I'm happy to have a true visual design environment. The debugger is easy to use and powerful, although when I tried to browse a complicated object it said "Not enough memory". Yeah right -- I have 256MB, most of which was free.
I wanted to write a DB app, but its MySQL support is limited to 3.22, which doesn't do me any good -- I will not and cannot downgrade. Hopefully they'll upgrade that and write a Postgres driver soon.
And I have mixed feelings about writing open source software with it. I guess it's fine for some things -- for instance non-essential things that will be handy for some people. But any essential component of a free system should be written with a genuinely Free compiler.
Despite its flaws, it is without a doubt the easiest way to create end-user GUI apps for Linux. It's a good first attempt, but Borland definitely needs to take its time and release a higher quality second version.
That's why it's absolutely essential that the de-facto browser(s) that most people use be Open Source. There will be none of this crap, and we can prove it.
I've never compiled X myself... but... on RPM-based systems, it seems like building from source would screw up RPM dependencies, and you'd have to use --force or --nodeps to install all X apps. Is that the case?
I am about to set up a set of sites on a co-located server. I found the co-lo provider I'm planning on using through a Google search for "co-location". They had one of the AdWords. Had it not been for that, I'm not sure I ever would have found them! As a result, they may well make several thousand dollars from me.
I was planning on using AdWords myself to link to specific stories on one of my sites. So it's quite interesting that the author finds that they don't work well. I'll probably try it anyway -- $50 isn't too much to blow for an experiment like that. It *does* seem to be one of the more targetted advertising systems out there, at least if you're on a budget.
Well, they could have made it cross platform without designing a whole new freeking platform that is ITSELF cross platform.
However, their new cross-platform platform DOES have a big advantage -- XUL. If XUL would be widely used, it would prove itself quickly. It alone could be a powerful weapon against IE.
So we have to decide if XUL was worth creating a new platform and lots of bloat for. Maybe... the jury is still out.
ok... so you're sniffing someone's cordless mouse.
"moving up a bit... left click... moving right a bit... moving down a bit.... right click... moving left a lot and up a bit. silence... moving down a lot, a little to the left... right click... moving up a bit...."
That was a safe bet. VA Linux has a revenue stream and some good products. If they can survive this recession (and I think they can), their stock should get back to $20-$30 within the next couple years.
Why do all these companies with questionable business models get boatloads of venture capital and open offices in Sillicon Valley?
It seems to me like Eazel should not have needed an office at all, at least not until Nautilus was about done and they were seriously set to launch services. They should have found several good hackers and paid them to work from home.
Seriously. Telecommuting has so many advantages that it just plain hurts trying to figure out why so many employers are opposed to it.
I've been to all 7 Central American countries, plus Venezuela, Mexico, and Puerto Rico. I do love it there. Even Guatemala would be great -- it's my favorite place outside the USA!
So yeah, I think it's for me. You're right that the pay would probably suck, but that's OK.
Let's not limit the scope of this to Europe. I'd *love* to do some Perl/PHP programming in Latin America (a Spanish speaking country) for a few months (years?). Any pointers?
Actually I have heard talk about NASA (or maybe Boeing) developing a rocket much like the article talked about. It basically shoots the passengers into space and flings them across the country in a couple hours.
Of course, it's not practical yet, but it may not be far off.
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I bought Kylix immediately after the price drop.
There are certainly pros and cons, as do all things. The stability of the IDE is somewhat disappointing -- I've crashed it several times already. The IDE is a bit on the slow side (but the compiler and the apps run quickly). The IDE's problems are probably due to the fact that it runs under wineserver, which was IMHO a sad design decision.
It is easy to learn and use though. I'm happy to have a true visual design environment. The debugger is easy to use and powerful, although when I tried to browse a complicated object it said "Not enough memory". Yeah right -- I have 256MB, most of which was free.
I wanted to write a DB app, but its MySQL support is limited to 3.22, which doesn't do me any good -- I will not and cannot downgrade. Hopefully they'll upgrade that and write a Postgres driver soon.
And I have mixed feelings about writing open source software with it. I guess it's fine for some things -- for instance non-essential things that will be handy for some people. But any essential component of a free system should be written with a genuinely Free compiler.
Despite its flaws, it is without a doubt the easiest way to create end-user GUI apps for Linux. It's a good first attempt, but Borland definitely needs to take its time and release a higher quality second version.
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Kylix isn't restricted to Intel. I'm running it on my AMD Athlon just fine!
... just couldn't resist! :-) )
(yeah, sorry, I know
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You must have a low opinion of kids to think they're only capable of THAT.
Teach an OS design course based on Tanenbaum's book. Then give them a copy of Linux 0.1.0 and tell them to add a virtual memory swapping system.
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Anyone know if that game (Oregon Trail) is still available, preferrably as a C program that can compile on Linux? I'd *love* to play that again!
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Took you this long? I ditched NS4.7 around Moz0.8. But I use Konqueror too. They both rock. :-)
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That's why it's absolutely essential that the de-facto browser(s) that most people use be Open Source. There will be none of this crap, and we can prove it.
Long live Mozilla and Konqueror!
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I've never compiled X myself ... but ... on RPM-based systems, it seems like building from source would screw up RPM dependencies, and you'd have to use --force or --nodeps to install all X apps. Is that the case?
:-)
If so, I'll wait for Red Hat's release.
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The readme was mostly about XFree 4 in general, and it stated that DRI was new in it.
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It didn't really say how 4.1.0 was better, besides "bugfixes" and new hardware support.
Well, hopefully it will fix the occasional system lockup I've experienced with my G400 under 4.0.3
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Serial ports, null modems, and Telix.
An ad on Google - $10
:-)
An ad on Robot Wisdom - $20
A month of Web hosting - $30
A link on Slashdot's home page - priceless
Sorry, couldn't resist!
I am about to set up a set of sites on a co-located server. I found the co-lo provider I'm planning on using through a Google search for "co-location". They had one of the AdWords. Had it not been for that, I'm not sure I ever would have found them! As a result, they may well make several thousand dollars from me.
I was planning on using AdWords myself to link to specific stories on one of my sites. So it's quite interesting that the author finds that they don't work well. I'll probably try it anyway -- $50 isn't too much to blow for an experiment like that. It *does* seem to be one of the more targetted advertising systems out there, at least if you're on a budget.
>$1/clickthrough sucks though...
Yeah, CA$500 million. That's enough to buy.... let's see.... a burger, fries, and Coke!
Well, they could have made it cross platform without designing a whole new freeking platform that is ITSELF cross platform.
... the jury is still out.
However, their new cross-platform platform DOES have a big advantage -- XUL. If XUL would be widely used, it would prove itself quickly. It alone could be a powerful weapon against IE.
So we have to decide if XUL was worth creating a new platform and lots of bloat for. Maybe
ok... so you're sniffing someone's cordless mouse.
"moving up a bit... left click... moving right a bit... moving down a bit.... right click... moving left a lot and up a bit. silence... moving down a lot, a little to the left... right click... moving up a bit...."
What exactly could you do with that info?
Either that or get a gerbil. I had mice and gerbils as a kid and you wouldn't believe how much cleaner gerbils are.
I don't think you read the whole story.
NAUTILUS IS NOT DEAD!!! The developers are committed to continuing it.
Why don't you have sympathy for the developers? They got a cool job and were paid to do work they enjoy. But now they're out of a paying job.
I can see not having sympathy for the VCs and PHBs, but developers?
That was a safe bet. VA Linux has a revenue stream and some good products. If they can survive this recession (and I think they can), their stock should get back to $20-$30 within the next couple years.
Why do all these companies with questionable business models get boatloads of venture capital and open offices in Sillicon Valley?
It seems to me like Eazel should not have needed an office at all, at least not until Nautilus was about done and they were seriously set to launch services. They should have found several good hackers and paid them to work from home.
Seriously. Telecommuting has so many advantages that it just plain hurts trying to figure out why so many employers are opposed to it.
Show of hands... how many would have paid money for any of their services?
(I posted this last time, but way too late in the thread for anyone to see it. I am actually curious.)
I've been to all 7 Central American countries, plus Venezuela, Mexico, and Puerto Rico. I do love it there. Even Guatemala would be great -- it's my favorite place outside the USA!
So yeah, I think it's for me. You're right that the pay would probably suck, but that's OK.
Why go through someone else if you can pick up a project on your own?
Let's not limit the scope of this to Europe. I'd *love* to do some Perl/PHP programming in Latin America (a Spanish speaking country) for a few months (years?). Any pointers?
Yikes! I don't suppose you can point out a reference to that???
Actually I have heard talk about NASA (or maybe Boeing) developing a rocket much like the article talked about. It basically shoots the passengers into space and flings them across the country in a couple hours.
Of course, it's not practical yet, but it may not be far off.