Can you install the 386 version in a different directory than/lib and set LD_LIBRARY_PATH for the JDK? Or do you have to run the 386 version w/everything?
Hopefully i can wait for a fixed JDK... but I might get a Java programming project soon....
Yeah, but what I don't understand is why he could do a terminal emulator with two processes and didn't call that an operating system. Wouldn't some kind of OS kernel need to be running under them to launch the two processes and do scheduling, if nothing else?
I'll probably take them up on that $59 deal. And since I know their margins must be tight right now, would it be better just to buy it from their site instead of a reseller?
I know it's good to show resellers that there's an interest in Linux games, but as another post mentioned, if they only sell 1000-2000 copies per game, Loki really needs as much money as they can get.
And I fail to understand why games cease to be 'great' ast time passes. Heck, Pac-Man and Centipede are still great games! Not as in-depth as today's games, sure, but they're still great for what they are.
And I for one really want to see Linux replace Windows as the de-facto desktop OS. This is an absolutely necessary step for that to happen. Sure, it would be much better if all games were released concurrently on both platforms. And some are, or nearly so. But late is better than never.
Ouch. Any idea how much Loki pockets from each of those, after packaging/shipping costs, but before salaries, rent, etc?
I'm guessing for a $45 game... $20 to the retail store, including shipping it there... $6 for packaging & book & CD, $10 for royalties to the 'doze producer of the game. That leaves... $9.
Yikes I hope I'm off somewhere. Anyone have any real numbers or more educated guesses?
And what happens when the game starts selling for under $20? Who looses the most... Loki, the original maker, or the retail store?
Yeah, I probably will, but maybe not right away. Need to start making real money again.:-) As soon as i get another programming contract...
I do plan to buy SMAC and SC3K, and maybe Tribes if my 'doze using friends are into that. Hopefully Tribes is one of those games that can be played w/the 'doze version.
Only problem with that is that if Office is available for Linux and your clients buy it, that's Windows revenue that MS is losing. And your clients will buy Office licenses anyway.
So why would MS go out of their way, spending millions of dollars, to port Office to Linux when it will mainly sabatage Windows sales?
In the long run Microsoft is screwed no matter what. There will be great open source office suites that do 90% of what Office does, and that will be good enough for almost everyone.
But looking at Linux technically, there is no real revolution here.
Debatable, but he may be right. Technically, the revolution is that Linux is more convenient than some other UNIXes because it's so customizable and so much software is included with distros.
Secondly, the area that gets the most attention in the press is the fact that Linux is "free" and you can get the source. Again, I don't see a major revolution here.
MAJOR disagreement here. Free software is a revolution, and he is correct that it started in the 80s (or before). However, the REAL revolution is that people everywhere are becoming increasingly aware of free software, and there is free software to meet most common business needs -- word processing, spreadsheets, quality mail clients and web browsers and desktops that easily compete with Windows, etc. Until very recently, that has not been the case.
In the end, the newfound open source commodity software and people being aware of it will cause it to become the dominant platform. This is huge, and I consider it inevitable.
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Floppy disks!
I bet it could be done with a module to the Linux kernel.
Seriously. You have a box with no network card or other connectivity except a floppy drive. You fire up Netscape and try to access Slashdot.org.
It writes the TCP syn packet to the floppy and beeps. You take the disk and put it into a box with real connectivity. It then reads the packet off the disk and sends the request. Slashdot responds and you have a TCP connection. It writes the confirmation to the disk and you take it back to the other box.
The unconnected box sees there's a connection and writes a packet containing the HTTP request. Then you take the disk over to the other box and it sends it and gets the responce. Probably the whole page would come without any further disk swaps, except the images.
So you take the disk, which now has the Slashdot home page, to the unconnected box and it gets read in via the TCP floppy stack. Netscape then requests the immages, so the Syn packets for those TCP connections all get written to the disk.
Repeat the previous couple steps for all the images. Repeat the whole process every time you access a story or other doc!
Heck, you could even do telnet connections that way, if you run the disk back and forth between every few words you type. And you wouldn't see what you type until you bring the disk back with the responce.:-)
Question to kernel gurus: Am I correct in assuming that that would not be terribly difficult to implement? If I didn't have more important things to do, I'd almost be motivated to try it.:-)
I worked for an Internet development company/ISP that paid me to develop a nice flexible system for delivering course material on the Internet. I got the thing working reasonably well and they had some course material (on SNMP) and had good leads on other material.
Then what happens.... they pull the project. Big mistake. Roughly the same thing happened to a couple other things I did for them. Then they lay me off because they were losing too much money. I wonder why.....
I agree, there is a market for online courses. And the system we developed would have been great for mechanics and electronics. Just develop the site, offer the people with content plenty of royalty money and with some luck you could laugh all the way to the bank.
I've been wondering how the distros fund the download bandwidth. If you look at the BW prices for the big hosting sites, they can be around $10/gig. So when I download my RH 7.1 ISOs after they come out, will I be costing Red Hat $10-$15?
Seems like charging for large downloads is not a horrible idea.
What the heck, you're right. Just checked on dictionary.com. You learn something every day. I'm *sure* I've heard it used before, and I've used it a number of times.
Double, triple, and quadruple are words. Does anyone know what the word for 5X is, if any?
Like the previous poster said, but elaborated a bit...
RHAT September 10 calls give you the right to purchase RHAT stock at $10 on or before the third Friday of September. So if the stock is at $15 before that point, you can either
1. Excercise the option, paying $10 per share plus the original $1 for the option and if you wish, sell at $15 for a $4/share profit. You still have to fork out $11/share, but since you can sell them immediately, the $10 is not really risked (unless the market tanks between the time you exercise the option and sell the stock, which is unlikely since the whole process only takes a few minutes).
2. Say RHAT gets to $15 by mid August. You could already make $4 by exercising that $1 option and selling. However, there's still a month left on it and someone will no doubt believe RHAT will go up in that next month. So most likely the stock will sell for $6 or more. So I usually prefer this method of making money with options.
Speaking of options trading, I think I have sinned. I traded Microsoft call options this week. Now, anything involving MSFT just doesn't feel right. But the proof that it was a sin: The after commission profit was exactly $666! I'm not kidding......
Correct, but I generally just prefer to sell options for a quick profit, rather than exercising them. So if it gets to, say, $8 within a couple months, you could still double your money with the things.
Probably a good idea. If they can rake in more money by offering more training and charging for their update services, as as Linux increases in popularity (which WILL happen), I can definitely see RHAT at $15-$20 later this year, easily.
But stocks are for wimps. Buy options.:-) September strike $10 calls are going for $1. If it gets to $15 by then you quintriple your money!
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Wall Street reacted to the irony in puzzlement, with Pepsico stock rising $50 in after hours trading.
Well, someone is a couple years behind the times. Pepsico, in 1999 (I think) spun off Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, and KFC into a new company, TriCon, with its own stock (YUM).
Slashdot Mirror
hmm. it's there, but I'm getting 5k/sec with lots of stallage.
Can you install the 386 version in a different directory than /lib and set LD_LIBRARY_PATH for the JDK? Or do you have to run the 386 version w/everything?
Hopefully i can wait for a fixed JDK... but I might get a Java programming project soon....
He might have had a beta version. They did do two betas this time. They usually only do one. Hopefully that alone will make a difference.
Yeah, but what I don't understand is why he could do a terminal emulator with two processes and didn't call that an operating system. Wouldn't some kind of OS kernel need to be running under them to launch the two processes and do scheduling, if nothing else?
I'll probably take them up on that $59 deal. And since I know their margins must be tight right now, would it be better just to buy it from their site instead of a reseller?
I know it's good to show resellers that there's an interest in Linux games, but as another post mentioned, if they only sell 1000-2000 copies per game, Loki really needs as much money as they can get.
Well at least Linux HAS the games.
And I fail to understand why games cease to be 'great' ast time passes. Heck, Pac-Man and Centipede are still great games! Not as in-depth as today's games, sure, but they're still great for what they are.
And I for one really want to see Linux replace Windows as the de-facto desktop OS. This is an absolutely necessary step for that to happen. Sure, it would be much better if all games were released concurrently on both platforms. And some are, or nearly so. But late is better than never.
Ouch. Any idea how much Loki pockets from each of those, after packaging/shipping costs, but before salaries, rent, etc?
... Loki, the original maker, or the retail store?
I'm guessing for a $45 game... $20 to the retail store, including shipping it there... $6 for packaging & book & CD, $10 for royalties to the 'doze producer of the game. That leaves... $9.
Yikes I hope I'm off somewhere. Anyone have any real numbers or more educated guesses?
And what happens when the game starts selling for under $20? Who looses the most
Yeah, I probably will, but maybe not right away. Need to start making real money again. :-) As soon as i get another programming contract...
I do plan to buy SMAC and SC3K, and maybe Tribes if my 'doze using friends are into that. Hopefully Tribes is one of those games that can be played w/the 'doze version.
All I want to know is when RH 7.1 is coming out.
6.2 came out in the last week of September. It's been over 6 months now. I don't think there has EVER been a 6 month delay between releases before.
But if it includes KDE 2.1.1 and GNOME 1.4 and kernel 2.4.3 and the new OpenSSH fix, it will probably be worth it.
Only problem with that is that if Office is available for Linux and your clients buy it, that's Windows revenue that MS is losing. And your clients will buy Office licenses anyway.
So why would MS go out of their way, spending millions of dollars, to port Office to Linux when it will mainly sabatage Windows sales?
In the long run Microsoft is screwed no matter what. There will be great open source office suites that do 90% of what Office does, and that will be good enough for almost everyone.
Debatable, but he may be right. Technically, the revolution is that Linux is more convenient than some other UNIXes because it's so customizable and so much software is included with distros.
Secondly, the area that gets the most attention in the press is the fact that Linux is "free" and you can get the source. Again, I don't see a major revolution here.
MAJOR disagreement here. Free software is a revolution, and he is correct that it started in the 80s (or before). However, the REAL revolution is that people everywhere are becoming increasingly aware of free software, and there is free software to meet most common business needs -- word processing, spreadsheets, quality mail clients and web browsers and desktops that easily compete with Windows, etc. Until very recently, that has not been the case.
In the end, the newfound open source commodity software and people being aware of it will cause it to become the dominant platform. This is huge, and I consider it inevitable.
Floppy disks!
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I bet it could be done with a module to the Linux kernel.
Seriously. You have a box with no network card or other connectivity except a floppy drive. You fire up Netscape and try to access Slashdot.org.
It writes the TCP syn packet to the floppy and beeps. You take the disk and put it into a box with real connectivity. It then reads the packet off the disk and sends the request. Slashdot responds and you have a TCP connection. It writes the confirmation to the disk and you take it back to the other box.
The unconnected box sees there's a connection and writes a packet containing the HTTP request. Then you take the disk over to the other box and it sends it and gets the responce. Probably the whole page would come without any further disk swaps, except the images.
So you take the disk, which now has the Slashdot home page, to the unconnected box and it gets read in via the TCP floppy stack. Netscape then requests the immages, so the Syn packets for those TCP connections all get written to the disk.
Repeat the previous couple steps for all the images. Repeat the whole process every time you access a story or other doc!
Heck, you could even do telnet connections that way, if you run the disk back and forth between every few words you type. And you wouldn't see what you type until you bring the disk back with the responce.
Question to kernel gurus: Am I correct in assuming that that would not be terribly difficult to implement? If I didn't have more important things to do, I'd almost be motivated to try it.
PLEASE tell me this is an April Fools joke too!
I worked for an Internet development company/ISP that paid me to develop a nice flexible system for delivering course material on the Internet. I got the thing working reasonably well and they had some course material (on SNMP) and had good leads on other material.
Then what happens.... they pull the project. Big mistake. Roughly the same thing happened to a couple other things I did for them. Then they lay me off because they were losing too much money. I wonder why.....
I agree, there is a market for online courses. And the system we developed would have been great for mechanics and electronics. Just develop the site, offer the people with content plenty of royalty money and with some luck you could laugh all the way to the bank.
That's what I thought.
An alien from outer space visits us. We could learn all sorts of things, and there could be all sorts of trouble.
And we're worried that he doesn't have a valid passport???
You can say that again. I submitted a site last November and it @!##@% still isn't there in its directory! What's the deal?
Uh yeah, I can think of a few.
Windows 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, 95, 95OSR2, 98, 98SE, NT3.1, NT3.5, NT4, 2000, ME, XP
I've been wondering how the distros fund the download bandwidth. If you look at the BW prices for the big hosting sites, they can be around $10/gig. So when I download my RH 7.1 ISOs after they come out, will I be costing Red Hat $10-$15?
Seems like charging for large downloads is not a horrible idea.
What the heck, you're right. Just checked on dictionary.com. You learn something every day. I'm *sure* I've heard it used before, and I've used it a number of times.
Double, triple, and quadruple are words. Does anyone know what the word for 5X is, if any?
> paper, shrinkwrap and support.
Not to mention convenience (automatic updates) and expensive training classes.
I think RHAT has a reasonably bright future.
Quintriple is 5X.
Like the previous poster said, but elaborated a bit...
RHAT September 10 calls give you the right to purchase RHAT stock at $10 on or before the third Friday of September. So if the stock is at $15 before that point, you can either
1. Excercise the option, paying $10 per share plus the original $1 for the option and if you wish, sell at $15 for a $4/share profit. You still have to fork out $11/share, but since you can sell them immediately, the $10 is not really risked (unless the market tanks between the time you exercise the option and sell the stock, which is unlikely since the whole process only takes a few minutes).
2. Say RHAT gets to $15 by mid August. You could already make $4 by exercising that $1 option and selling. However, there's still a month left on it and someone will no doubt believe RHAT will go up in that next month. So most likely the stock will sell for $6 or more. So I usually prefer this method of making money with options.
Speaking of options trading, I think I have sinned. I traded Microsoft call options this week. Now, anything involving MSFT just doesn't feel right. But the proof that it was a sin: The after commission profit was exactly $666! I'm not kidding......
Correct, but I generally just prefer to sell options for a quick profit, rather than exercising them. So if it gets to, say, $8 within a couple months, you could still double your money with the things.
Probably a good idea. If they can rake in more money by offering more training and charging for their update services, as as Linux increases in popularity (which WILL happen), I can definitely see RHAT at $15-$20 later this year, easily.
:-) September strike $10 calls are going for $1. If it gets to $15 by then you quintriple your money!
But stocks are for wimps. Buy options.
Wall Street reacted to the irony in puzzlement, with Pepsico stock rising $50 in after hours trading.
Well, someone is a couple years behind the times. Pepsico, in 1999 (I think) spun off Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, and KFC into a new company, TriCon, with its own stock (YUM).
Micah hopes Mir will hit the guerilla kidnappers in Ecuador.....