The problem with the abstinence argument is that it misses the point.
What is the safest way to cross the street?
You can do it at a designated crosswalk and look both ways before crossing, but it isn't 100% safe.
The safest way is to not cross the street.
The problem with the not crossing option is that you don't end up on the other side.
In the same way the easiest way to cook dinner is to not cook dinner.
People arguing for abstinence appears to have jumped into the second part of the discussion.
The first part was that people want to have sex. The second part was how to avoid having children while having sex.
Abstinence doesn't address the first part and isn't a viable solution.
Young people are going to have sex no matter how much you argue for abstinence.
That is why the rate of teen pregnancies are the highest in areas where abstinence is preached the most.
I disagree with you for one reason. Abstinence != abstinence only. In generally I have no problem with teaching children about abstinence. The problem is that most people who want to teach about abstinence don't want to teach other methods. It's important to a large population here and like creationism I think it should be taught but I also think teaching it only requires about 25 minutes after which you need to spend the rest of your week on all the other options out there. Teaching kids about abstinence is ok for a school. Convincing them that abstinence is their only choice however isn't.
All of the commercially-available (and female-targeted) contraceptives have at least 3-nines effectiveness, and the popular ones have 7-nines effectiveness.
Well, there's some BS. Absolutely no company makes claims of 99.99999% effectiveness of their product and there has never been a study large enough to provide that level of accuracy. There's plenty of real evidence that female birth control pills are more effective than this without you spewing ridiculous numbers.
That's kinda funny actually SEEING the number makes it wildly clear how made up it is whereas the way he had it written almost made it sound reasonable
Depends on who is on the bill of sale. If I see "Amazon.com" on my credit card statement, Amazon sold it to me. In Craigslist case, CL is not selling anything through their site, they're just listing. E-Bay is a bidding site that also makes it clear who you are actually purchasing from but depending on how they handle the sales, E-Bay COULD be on the hook. Amazon will handle all sales for sellers including warehousing and shipping, Amazon is a store just as much as Wal-Mart is.
wait Amazon handles warehousing and shipping? How do I get THAT junk?
You can't call something AI if it pulls random text lines from a config file. Talk about an overhyped term. I presume the WordPress Hello Dolly plugin is AI too, right?
I agree but I presumed the AI would be pulling speech patterns from the AI. Responding as the person would have not necessarily restricted to the text input. Kinda like how Swype and other keyboards learn your texting habits.
they exist only to power cell phones but the ports are there. most telling they often don't have the lighter attachment since no one actually lights cigarettes anymore but they still need the port so it's there with a cap instead of a plug.
i have and do play PokemonGo. I see it as a vastly flawed and honestly boring game compared to Ingress. But other people play it like I played Cookie Clicker. What's addictive to me isn't addictive to you and so forth.
I've played plenty of games over the years that I have enjoyed greatly and wanted to play more. You know what I never found, though? I never found that I couldn't resist the urge to play them at the same time as I was in control of a heavy, fast-moving metal object in a crowded area full of vulnerable people.
Anyone who truly can't control that urge demonstrably has serious mental health issues that make them a danger to themselves and others, and they need to be taken into care and properly looked after for everyone's safety and preferably to help them recover.
But let's be honest, how many people really couldn't resist that urge and have genuine mental health problems, and how many could have controlled themselves just fine but simply didn't care and knowingly did something extremely dangerous without regard for the potentially tragic consequences?
I'm not trying to say it isn't their fault or that they are a victim of the game. They SHOULD have more self control and be less self-indulgent than to play the game while driving.
considering how long we've had pedestrians and how many pedestrians there are if you want to compare PoGo to random pedestrians you're gonna need a much bigger PoGo dataset.
I'll bet world wide it's more than two, I see people driving and searching for pokemon all the time.
People drive and operate their phones all the time. It doesn't cause nearly as much death as you think it would. That said it does cause a lot of death and most of that use is texting which is more involved in terms of phone usage than PoGo. Having to type out words and phrases vs just tossing pokeballs up is orders more difficult to do while maintaining proper road concentration.
Are people's lives so bloody empty that they need to play with a phone all the time? What the hell is wrong with them?
It's not about empty lives, it's about addictive games. Games even ones as insipidly simple as PoGo can tap into your Skinner box tendancies. It's less about the rest of your life being fulfilling than about an individual having self control.
[This incident] means overall [Pokemon Go is] probably responsible for a huge reduction in fatalities!
You would need to have a control activity that also requires movement and shows a substantially larger among of "attributed death"* to make that claim.
* - again just to clarify the tldr doens't say the death is attributed to PoGo just linked to it. The driver said that but he's hardly a valuable source.
It says it's the first death linked to PoGo not caused by it. I think we can all breath just a little bit and put down our pitchforks. Save our "righteous" rage for some incident that actually needs it. This is just a funny (not haha) story about death and PoGo.
Unlike the original Ingress. Pokemon Go doesn't really get better with friends. In Ingress playing with a friend can allow you to take down stronger portals faster, and it's the only way to build up stronger portals. You can make giant control fields.
There's a social metagame in Pokemon Go too.
Alone, anyone can take down a gym, but it costs a lot of potions. I throw in one poke, get my 10 coins, and the next random passerby either adds his poke to the gym (if on my team), or if he's on an opposing team, stomps all over it to get his 10 coins. There's no incentive for me to train my own pokes against my own poke in order to level up the gym all by myself, because the costs are entirely imposed on me and the benefits, if any, go to complete strangers.
In groups - even as small as two - the gameplay is different. It's not only easier to take down gyms, it's dramatically easier to level up gyms. Gym #1, I throw in a low-value 'mon, all three of us beat the tar out of it, and Friend #2 and #3 get to throw in decent 'mons. (The next opposing passerby kicks my 'mon out trivially, but has to work at getting my friends' mons out.) At Gym #2 (and #3), we do the same thing, except it's Friend #1's (and #2's) turn to be the punching bag, and I get to put a decent 'mon in the gym. Bingo - three gyms down, and odds are decent that all three of us get at least 20-30 coins each for our trouble. (It scales to larger groups of same-team members, as long as everyone's willing to put in the time to walk to more gyms. Hell, we're all friends - if there are 4-5 of us and a mix of red/blue/yellow, we'll take turns beating on opposing gyms... Everybody gets coins.)
i'll concede the gym point. I intended to in my earlier comment and I forgot about it. But beyond the gym there's not much else, it is the sole social aspect of the game and it's kinda simplistic (which again to be fair to the target audience of Pokemon isn't necessarily a bad thing). I hear there are add-ons that allow for pokemon tracking so you can find pokemon even without the built in tracker that's currently bugged out but I consider that people hacking the game to make it social.
Unlike the original Ingress. Pokemon Go doesn't really get better with friends. In Ingress playing with a friend can allow you to take down stronger portals faster, and it's the only way to build up stronger portals. You can make giant control fields.
In Pokemon Go as much as people in real life keep chiming on about how social it is. The game isn't social. Playing with friends isn't something the game encourages. It just happens because PoGo has such a large community. You don't run into people playing Pokemon Go because of game mechanics but because it's a Pokemon game. If there was a pokemon match 3 game that gave your "energy" by walking you'd still run into just as many people playing it. You'd still have fun "Pokewalks" together and meet other random people doing their "Pokewalks". But Pokemon Go doesn't have many social aspects. And while the license brought people in. Unless they change the game (and removing one of the few social features [Poke-tracking] doesn't count) I would be very surprised if their numbers didn't fall off by the end of the year. I was actually very surprised more Ingress mechanics didn't transfer over because Ingress is a great game it just has a dreadfully pedantic theme that has no mass appeal.
And yeah the newbie gap is much better in Ingress. A level 1 player can't really affect me as a level 10 player but they can play for a few weeks and catch up to a point where they CAN compete. You don't have to dedicate your life to the game to become effective and (to be fair possibly because it's so small) there's a community that values sharing from a mechanical standpoint. You can only use so much gear. I live in a high value region so if there's someone new and they want to meet I have no problem giving them as much gear as they can handle because I'm swiming in it.
why are you trying to fix a wheel that's not squeaking? I'm not suggesting that porn has a place in McDonalds but if people aren't using it for porn to a distracting and noticeable way then wth should anyone care? All you're doing is potentially black listing websites which aren't porn. What if they're websites about sex? Or sexuality issues? What if they're frank and honest sex blogs that youths find compelling and useful for knowledge purposes. What is reading about *REAL* sex can help these kids make better choices sexually. What if it's just pictures of nude people.
Of course educational games can work. Heck I was practically raised on Number Munchers and Reader Rabbit. It's about understanding what a game can and can't do. Civ is a great educational tool. There's a lot of concepts that I learned about in Civilization (1). It's not a great tool for teaching history but it's a great tool for familiarizing students with things like military units, great accomplishments, methods of society interaction (trade, war, etc). It doesn't replace traditional learning but it can make a FANTASTIC supplement to proper learning.
prices decreasing? I'm not sure that's the way it works. I'd expect prices to say the same but the product to increase. And again this is only assuming they DO pass the savings down. I wasn't trying to say they would just that they could pass down the savings and if so it would go to prime first (in the form of more prime features)
These are things capitalism says. Capitalism also says wealth will trickle down. These are both lies. The latter based on the fact that the wealthy don't spend money they save it and use it to create more wealth. The former because it presumes that the savings will be passed on to workers rather than being used to eliminate workers. Doesn't matter how cheap everything is if you have no job.
but there are a group of people who are absolutely incapable of doing anything beyond warehouse work or factory work
I don't consider it unkind. Some people don't seek more than that. For some of us a job is just a job. For those people life is what happens when you're not at the job. It's why silicon valley's "Everyone should just become an entrepreneur misses the point. a) We can't ALL be job creators and b) we don't all WANT to become job creators.
In turn, the company's operating costs have been sliced by 20% -- or almost $22 million -- per warehouse.
The list of benefits are a lot of back-end numbers we don't see and can't verify. If these Kiva robots are saving Amazon so much money, why aren't item prices dropping? Why does Walmart still often beat Amazon's prices? Why did Amazon suddenly and silently increase the free shipping minimum threshold from any $35 order, to $49 of only merchandise shipped via Amazon? This price jump even coincides with the biggest DEcrease in oil prices in decades.
In short, I'm HIGHLY skeptical they're actually getting the huge benefits they claim.
all those benefits will be pass on to prime people only and the rest of us will have to have larger orders to subsidize them more and more.
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hmmm.. fairly straightforward but yeah the fees and such. Still might be worth it to get rid of some of the stuff that might sell on secondary market.
The problem with the abstinence argument is that it misses the point.
What is the safest way to cross the street? You can do it at a designated crosswalk and look both ways before crossing, but it isn't 100% safe. The safest way is to not cross the street. The problem with the not crossing option is that you don't end up on the other side.
In the same way the easiest way to cook dinner is to not cook dinner.
People arguing for abstinence appears to have jumped into the second part of the discussion. The first part was that people want to have sex. The second part was how to avoid having children while having sex. Abstinence doesn't address the first part and isn't a viable solution. Young people are going to have sex no matter how much you argue for abstinence. That is why the rate of teen pregnancies are the highest in areas where abstinence is preached the most.
I disagree with you for one reason. Abstinence != abstinence only. In generally I have no problem with teaching children about abstinence. The problem is that most people who want to teach about abstinence don't want to teach other methods. It's important to a large population here and like creationism I think it should be taught but I also think teaching it only requires about 25 minutes after which you need to spend the rest of your week on all the other options out there. Teaching kids about abstinence is ok for a school. Convincing them that abstinence is their only choice however isn't.
All of the commercially-available (and female-targeted) contraceptives have at least 3-nines effectiveness, and the popular ones have 7-nines effectiveness.
Well, there's some BS. Absolutely no company makes claims of 99.99999% effectiveness of their product and there has never been a study large enough to provide that level of accuracy. There's plenty of real evidence that female birth control pills are more effective than this without you spewing ridiculous numbers.
That's kinda funny actually SEEING the number makes it wildly clear how made up it is whereas the way he had it written almost made it sound reasonable
Depends on who is on the bill of sale. If I see "Amazon.com" on my credit card statement, Amazon sold it to me. In Craigslist case, CL is not selling anything through their site, they're just listing. E-Bay is a bidding site that also makes it clear who you are actually purchasing from but depending on how they handle the sales, E-Bay COULD be on the hook. Amazon will handle all sales for sellers including warehousing and shipping, Amazon is a store just as much as Wal-Mart is.
wait Amazon handles warehousing and shipping? How do I get THAT junk?
You can't call something AI if it pulls random text lines from a config file. Talk about an overhyped term. I presume the WordPress Hello Dolly plugin is AI too, right?
I agree but I presumed the AI would be pulling speech patterns from the AI. Responding as the person would have not necessarily restricted to the text input. Kinda like how Swype and other keyboards learn your texting habits.
Hey guys good news is after their third one it's no longer a bug it's a feature. So we have that to look forward to.
they exist only to power cell phones but the ports are there. most telling they often don't have the lighter attachment since no one actually lights cigarettes anymore but they still need the port so it's there with a cap instead of a plug.
Have you played Pokemon Go?
i have and do play PokemonGo. I see it as a vastly flawed and honestly boring game compared to Ingress. But other people play it like I played Cookie Clicker. What's addictive to me isn't addictive to you and so forth.
I've played plenty of games over the years that I have enjoyed greatly and wanted to play more. You know what I never found, though? I never found that I couldn't resist the urge to play them at the same time as I was in control of a heavy, fast-moving metal object in a crowded area full of vulnerable people.
Anyone who truly can't control that urge demonstrably has serious mental health issues that make them a danger to themselves and others, and they need to be taken into care and properly looked after for everyone's safety and preferably to help them recover.
But let's be honest, how many people really couldn't resist that urge and have genuine mental health problems, and how many could have controlled themselves just fine but simply didn't care and knowingly did something extremely dangerous without regard for the potentially tragic consequences?
I'm not trying to say it isn't their fault or that they are a victim of the game. They SHOULD have more self control and be less self-indulgent than to play the game while driving.
We have such a control group: Random pedestrians.
In 2013, 4,735 pedestrians were killed in traffic crashes in the United States. This averages to one crash-related pedestrian death every 2 hours
considering how long we've had pedestrians and how many pedestrians there are if you want to compare PoGo to random pedestrians you're gonna need a much bigger PoGo dataset.
I'll bet world wide it's more than two, I see people driving and searching for pokemon all the time.
People drive and operate their phones all the time. It doesn't cause nearly as much death as you think it would. That said it does cause a lot of death and most of that use is texting which is more involved in terms of phone usage than PoGo. Having to type out words and phrases vs just tossing pokeballs up is orders more difficult to do while maintaining proper road concentration.
Are people's lives so bloody empty that they need to play with a phone all the time? What the hell is wrong with them?
It's not about empty lives, it's about addictive games. Games even ones as insipidly simple as PoGo can tap into your Skinner box tendancies. It's less about the rest of your life being fulfilling than about an individual having self control.
[This incident] means overall [Pokemon Go is] probably responsible for a huge reduction in fatalities!
You would need to have a control activity that also requires movement and shows a substantially larger among of "attributed death"* to make that claim.
* - again just to clarify the tldr doens't say the death is attributed to PoGo just linked to it. The driver said that but he's hardly a valuable source.
It says it's the first death linked to PoGo not caused by it. I think we can all breath just a little bit and put down our pitchforks. Save our "righteous" rage for some incident that actually needs it. This is just a funny (not haha) story about death and PoGo.
There's a social metagame in Pokemon Go too.
Alone, anyone can take down a gym, but it costs a lot of potions. I throw in one poke, get my 10 coins, and the next random passerby either adds his poke to the gym (if on my team), or if he's on an opposing team, stomps all over it to get his 10 coins. There's no incentive for me to train my own pokes against my own poke in order to level up the gym all by myself, because the costs are entirely imposed on me and the benefits, if any, go to complete strangers.
In groups - even as small as two - the gameplay is different. It's not only easier to take down gyms, it's dramatically easier to level up gyms. Gym #1, I throw in a low-value 'mon, all three of us beat the tar out of it, and Friend #2 and #3 get to throw in decent 'mons. (The next opposing passerby kicks my 'mon out trivially, but has to work at getting my friends' mons out.) At Gym #2 (and #3), we do the same thing, except it's Friend #1's (and #2's) turn to be the punching bag, and I get to put a decent 'mon in the gym. Bingo - three gyms down, and odds are decent that all three of us get at least 20-30 coins each for our trouble. (It scales to larger groups of same-team members, as long as everyone's willing to put in the time to walk to more gyms. Hell, we're all friends - if there are 4-5 of us and a mix of red/blue/yellow, we'll take turns beating on opposing gyms... Everybody gets coins.)
i'll concede the gym point. I intended to in my earlier comment and I forgot about it. But beyond the gym there's not much else, it is the sole social aspect of the game and it's kinda simplistic (which again to be fair to the target audience of Pokemon isn't necessarily a bad thing). I hear there are add-ons that allow for pokemon tracking so you can find pokemon even without the built in tracker that's currently bugged out but I consider that people hacking the game to make it social.
i'm not reminded of that. But I too remember that episode. I liked it.
Unlike the original Ingress. Pokemon Go doesn't really get better with friends. In Ingress playing with a friend can allow you to take down stronger portals faster, and it's the only way to build up stronger portals. You can make giant control fields.
In Pokemon Go as much as people in real life keep chiming on about how social it is. The game isn't social. Playing with friends isn't something the game encourages. It just happens because PoGo has such a large community. You don't run into people playing Pokemon Go because of game mechanics but because it's a Pokemon game. If there was a pokemon match 3 game that gave your "energy" by walking you'd still run into just as many people playing it. You'd still have fun "Pokewalks" together and meet other random people doing their "Pokewalks". But Pokemon Go doesn't have many social aspects. And while the license brought people in. Unless they change the game (and removing one of the few social features [Poke-tracking] doesn't count) I would be very surprised if their numbers didn't fall off by the end of the year. I was actually very surprised more Ingress mechanics didn't transfer over because Ingress is a great game it just has a dreadfully pedantic theme that has no mass appeal.
And yeah the newbie gap is much better in Ingress. A level 1 player can't really affect me as a level 10 player but they can play for a few weeks and catch up to a point where they CAN compete. You don't have to dedicate your life to the game to become effective and (to be fair possibly because it's so small) there's a community that values sharing from a mechanical standpoint. You can only use so much gear. I live in a high value region so if there's someone new and they want to meet I have no problem giving them as much gear as they can handle because I'm swiming in it.
why are you trying to fix a wheel that's not squeaking? I'm not suggesting that porn has a place in McDonalds but if people aren't using it for porn to a distracting and noticeable way then wth should anyone care? All you're doing is potentially black listing websites which aren't porn. What if they're websites about sex? Or sexuality issues? What if they're frank and honest sex blogs that youths find compelling and useful for knowledge purposes. What is reading about *REAL* sex can help these kids make better choices sexually. What if it's just pictures of nude people.
as long as you're polite about it.
Of course educational games can work. Heck I was practically raised on Number Munchers and Reader Rabbit. It's about understanding what a game can and can't do. Civ is a great educational tool. There's a lot of concepts that I learned about in Civilization (1). It's not a great tool for teaching history but it's a great tool for familiarizing students with things like military units, great accomplishments, methods of society interaction (trade, war, etc). It doesn't replace traditional learning but it can make a FANTASTIC supplement to proper learning.
prices decreasing? I'm not sure that's the way it works. I'd expect prices to say the same but the product to increase. And again this is only assuming they DO pass the savings down. I wasn't trying to say they would just that they could pass down the savings and if so it would go to prime first (in the form of more prime features)
These are things capitalism says. Capitalism also says wealth will trickle down. These are both lies. The latter based on the fact that the wealthy don't spend money they save it and use it to create more wealth. The former because it presumes that the savings will be passed on to workers rather than being used to eliminate workers. Doesn't matter how cheap everything is if you have no job.
but there are a group of people who are absolutely incapable of doing anything beyond warehouse work or factory work
I don't consider it unkind. Some people don't seek more than that. For some of us a job is just a job. For those people life is what happens when you're not at the job. It's why silicon valley's "Everyone should just become an entrepreneur misses the point. a) We can't ALL be job creators and b) we don't all WANT to become job creators.
The list of benefits are a lot of back-end numbers we don't see and can't verify. If these Kiva robots are saving Amazon so much money, why aren't item prices dropping? Why does Walmart still often beat Amazon's prices? Why did Amazon suddenly and silently increase the free shipping minimum threshold from any $35 order, to $49 of only merchandise shipped via Amazon? This price jump even coincides with the biggest DEcrease in oil prices in decades.
In short, I'm HIGHLY skeptical they're actually getting the huge benefits they claim.
all those benefits will be pass on to prime people only and the rest of us will have to have larger orders to subsidize them more and more.
they work for peanuts people.. peanuts!!!!