No one is politicizing science here. We're discussing the sub-culture of the practitioners. Or are we supposed to believe that RMS's Emacs Virgins (who are all women mind you) is acceptable behavior.
In my own CS experience nobody gave a shit about whether you were black, white, asian or latino and yes we had all of those races represented in the program.
Really? How many of which? How many of the blacks and latinos were Americans, and how many were international students?
Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women.[1][2] This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women
You can "get tired of this shit" all you want. Hell, I'm also "tired of this shit" too. I can't believe that we're still having these conversations, because people like you refuse to acknowledge what's perfectly obvious.
We must be the same age since you talk about learning to program basic on a Apple//e. For me, it was a C=64. You say it cost you a "hundred lawns." Fine. I saved for mine as well, but I bet your daddy drove you to K-Mart to buy it, just like mine did. (Yes kiddies, K-Mart sold computers back in the day.) "No one could prevent [you]"? Yeah right. I'm sure your parents could have, but they didn't. I will tell you this, you existed in a cultural milieu that encouraged programming. Home computers were cool status symbol in white suburbia. BYTE. Compute! ENTER, Even 321 Contact Magazine had programming examples. Today, where are those programming milieus? The same places they were 30 years ago: rich (i.e. white, asian, and indian) suburban schools. Face it, only the middle class had the disposable income to spend on these electronic contrivances. The question is, who is encouraging potential underrepresented engineers? Who is even telling them that programming is even a possibility for them? People are influenced by what they see.
You say that women won't make sacrifices to produce a game on time. So what are you saying? Women are quitters? Is that why girls are just as interested in STEM in grade and middle school, but then drop out in high school and college? Or is it, that they simply don't want to put up with the shit they're subjected to on a daily basis. I've been in the meetings where "the girl's" judgement is habitually questioned. The meetings where she stands up for herself, and then afterwards the men say she's either "PMSing" or is a "bitch."
You say calling some one sexist is slander. I say calling you sexist, isn't, because your post is evidence enough. You don't even seen your own white male privilege.
For fuck's sake, open your goddamn eyes. Read something that challenges your presumptions. Do something intelligent for once.
So men tend to like computers more than women, does anyone seriously think this is somehow the industry keeping women from participating? (well, ok, but only because a lot of the "men" in the industry tend to be about as mature as the primary school children I referred to earlier!)
So are you being sarcastic or not? I can't tell anymore. The sexism in the "hard" sciences has been well documented, and I've observed it myself.
As far as racism goes, I don't know. I do no that there was like ONE black student in my CS classes, and that they're very underrepresented in CS. Latinos? I never saw one. The closes I've come across were Argentinians and they identify as white.
I will say that when I saw this movie back in the day, I was confused by it. As I remember, it was billed as a huge summer movie, but things were just off about it. Most notably (and this is a point for the satire argument) that the heroes dress in SS uniforms.
Let's face it. Heinlein's political ideas are ripe for parody. It's hard to believe they were anything but satire.
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Who ever wrote that run-on sentence needs to some old fashioned literacy,
The tech companies want to be given the ability to do anything to make a profit. The government wants to be given the ability to do anything to spy on us.
Open source isn't just free copying. That's just permissive licensing. The real power of open source is the ability to modify and share those modifications. That's always been the case in music.
See jazz. See folk. See hip-hop. See country. See blues. See...
Over reacted or fed up with the same shit all the time? Because if she's been on it for any time at all, I suspect the latter.
Was that the best example to go off on? Probably not. Is the LKML an abusive place, where people like the pound their chests and belittle people and engage in stupid power plays while deriding "office politics?" Probably so
As a born again college roommate of mine said on the phone with his soon-to-be-ex-girlfriend, "That's like saying you're Catholic. That's as close to pagan as you can get and still call yourself a Christian."
I really wish I took a friend of mine's advice to put a statue of Mary on my monitor after that.
San Jose sucks. It's a giant suburb, as is the entire bay area outside of SF and Oakland. Oh sure, there's occasional four block areas on streets that don't suck to walk on. Castro in Mountain View. University in Palo Alto. Whatever the main drag is in Los Gatos, but the vast majority of the area is completely boring strip malls surrounded by $700k 2 bedroom houses.
The single family homes actually in the valley are not an option for anyone you might consider a "worker."
Almost requires an IPO or your startup to be bought to buy a home in a decent location around here
It takes more than an IPO to buy a nice home in Silicon Valley. I know. $200 a share still isn't enough.
I live in the silicon valley and can't wait for the day to sell my home and move to another part of the country and pay for a 3k sq ft home for $500k with an acre of land on a lake.
I've been considering Seattle. It is just so damn depressing how expensive it is to buy a house.
Droids are quite simply not alive. They're a simulacrum of life (and a particularly good one), but that is not the same as life. It makes absolutely no sense to have any feelings towards them, beyond a kind of affection which one might feel for a particularly useful car or other tool. That's all they are: tools. They show some survival instinct, but that's just because you want your tools to survive if at all possible. They feel "pain", but only as a representation of damage (although I've always found it quite... odd that droids can be "tortured" in the Star Wards universe). They're not sentient beings.
Isn't survival instincts simply a way to avoid pain?
No droids aren't alive as they don't experience growth or reproduction, but we're not talking about life, we're talking about sentience, and the moral rights and obligations that one sentience has to another.
The fact is, that after thousands of years of philosophy, we are no closer to determining sentience than ever. I know I am sentient because I can experience my own internal thoughts, however I can not know for certain that you are sentient or merely an elaborate simulacrum.
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The barrier for entry in learning to code is virtually nil. You need a computer - it doesn't even have to be a good one - and access to the Internet.
And yet...
No one is politicizing science here. We're discussing the sub-culture of the practitioners. Or are we supposed to believe that RMS's Emacs Virgins (who are all women mind you) is acceptable behavior.
In my own CS experience nobody gave a shit about whether you were black, white, asian or latino and yes we had all of those races represented in the program.
Really? How many of which? How many of the blacks and latinos were Americans, and how many were international students?
And yet you don't say the same thing about the young white engineer that got into software to "change the world."
Do you honestly think that some minority is really so stupid to no understand what is required for a job he interviewed and was hired for?
Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women.[1][2] This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women
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Now, I look forward to your definition.
NOPE! Gamers HATE women! GAME CULTURE IS SEXIST! Ugh.
Um... yeah it is. (âoeThe sexual harassment is part of the culture. If you remove that from the fighting game community, itâ(TM)s not the fighting game community") It's also hyper macho, homophobic and racist, you retarded nigger cocksucking faggot pussy.
You can "get tired of this shit" all you want. Hell, I'm also "tired of this shit" too. I can't believe that we're still having these conversations, because people like you refuse to acknowledge what's perfectly obvious.
We must be the same age since you talk about learning to program basic on a Apple //e. For me, it was a C=64. You say it cost you a "hundred lawns." Fine. I saved for mine as well, but I bet your daddy drove you to K-Mart to buy it, just like mine did. (Yes kiddies, K-Mart sold computers back in the day.) "No one could prevent [you]"? Yeah right. I'm sure your parents could have, but they didn't. I will tell you this, you existed in a cultural milieu that encouraged programming. Home computers were cool status symbol in white suburbia. BYTE. Compute! ENTER, Even 321 Contact Magazine had programming examples. Today, where are those programming milieus? The same places they were 30 years ago: rich (i.e. white, asian, and indian) suburban schools. Face it, only the middle class had the disposable income to spend on these electronic contrivances. The question is, who is encouraging potential underrepresented engineers? Who is even telling them that programming is even a possibility for them? People are influenced by what they see.
You say that women won't make sacrifices to produce a game on time. So what are you saying? Women are quitters? Is that why girls are just as interested in STEM in grade and middle school, but then drop out in high school and college? Or is it, that they simply don't want to put up with the shit they're subjected to on a daily basis. I've been in the meetings where "the girl's" judgement is habitually questioned. The meetings where she stands up for herself, and then afterwards the men say she's either "PMSing" or is a "bitch."
You say calling some one sexist is slander. I say calling you sexist, isn't, because your post is evidence enough. You don't even seen your own white male privilege.
For fuck's sake, open your goddamn eyes. Read something that challenges your presumptions. Do something intelligent for once.
And /. wonders where the sexism is.
Jesus fucking christ. Believing that women are just as smart and capable as any man, and deserve to be treated as as such, is used as a slur.
So men tend to like computers more than women, does anyone seriously think this is somehow the industry keeping women from participating? (well, ok, but only because a lot of the "men" in the industry tend to be about as mature as the primary school children I referred to earlier!)
So are you being sarcastic or not? I can't tell anymore. The sexism in the "hard" sciences has been well documented, and I've observed it myself.
As far as racism goes, I don't know. I do no that there was like ONE black student in my CS classes, and that they're very underrepresented in CS. Latinos? I never saw one. The closes I've come across were Argentinians and they identify as white.
Of course the site is HIPA compliant because it doesn't actually store any information... so yeah.
I will say that when I saw this movie back in the day, I was confused by it. As I remember, it was billed as a huge summer movie, but things were just off about it. Most notably (and this is a point for the satire argument) that the heroes dress in SS uniforms.
Let's face it. Heinlein's political ideas are ripe for parody. It's hard to believe they were anything but satire.
Isn't a NAS basically a computer you let run all the time? Sure it might be a bit lower power, but still...
Who ever wrote that run-on sentence needs to some old fashioned literacy,
I smell a market opportunity!
Open source isn't just free copying. That's just permissive licensing. The real power of open source is the ability to modify and share those modifications. That's always been the case in music.
See jazz.
See folk.
See hip-hop.
See country.
See blues.
See...
Over reacted or fed up with the same shit all the time? Because if she's been on it for any time at all, I suspect the latter.
Was that the best example to go off on? Probably not. Is the LKML an abusive place, where people like the pound their chests and belittle people and engage in stupid power plays while deriding "office politics?" Probably so
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So what? I don't see any of those schools being real power houses of innovation either.
You know who else pays in cash? Terrorists. :/
As a born again college roommate of mine said on the phone with his soon-to-be-ex-girlfriend, "That's like saying you're Catholic. That's as close to pagan as you can get and still call yourself a Christian."
I really wish I took a friend of mine's advice to put a statue of Mary on my monitor after that.
San Jose sucks. It's a giant suburb, as is the entire bay area outside of SF and Oakland. Oh sure, there's occasional four block areas on streets that don't suck to walk on. Castro in Mountain View. University in Palo Alto. Whatever the main drag is in Los Gatos, but the vast majority of the area is completely boring strip malls surrounded by $700k 2 bedroom houses.
The single family homes actually in the valley are not an option for anyone you might consider a "worker."
Yeah. "workers" can't afford them.
Almost requires an IPO or your startup to be bought to buy a home in a decent location around here
It takes more than an IPO to buy a nice home in Silicon Valley. I know. $200 a share still isn't enough.
I live in the silicon valley and can't wait for the day to sell my home and move to another part of the country and pay for a 3k sq ft home for $500k with an acre of land on a lake.
I've been considering Seattle. It is just so damn depressing how expensive it is to buy a house.
Where do the ungentrified move to?
Richmond.
Droids are quite simply not alive. They're a simulacrum of life (and a particularly good one), but that is not the same as life. It makes absolutely no sense to have any feelings towards them, beyond a kind of affection which one might feel for a particularly useful car or other tool. That's all they are: tools. They show some survival instinct, but that's just because you want your tools to survive if at all possible. They feel "pain", but only as a representation of damage (although I've always found it quite... odd that droids can be "tortured" in the Star Wards universe). They're not sentient beings.
Isn't pain just a way to avoid and indicate damage? See insensitivity to pain.
Isn't survival instincts simply a way to avoid pain?
No droids aren't alive as they don't experience growth or reproduction, but we're not talking about life, we're talking about sentience, and the moral rights and obligations that one sentience has to another.
The fact is, that after thousands of years of philosophy, we are no closer to determining sentience than ever. I know I am sentient because I can experience my own internal thoughts, however I can not know for certain that you are sentient or merely an elaborate simulacrum.
Regarding FB's PHP: You do realize there's a reason why HipHop was written right?
So why was PHP and MySQL chosen for FB? Because that's the only things that The Zuckster knew.
I really fail to see why a non-binding resolution would be challenged, or is even unconstitutional.
I always liked less's versioning system, each release increments the number.