Trade secrets do not have legal protection from anyone outside the company. All trade secrect laws deal with employees leaking information, NOT outside individuals or companies reverse engineering products.
If you must give in to the you elitest flaming side, could you at least list a refrence to either an individual example of such a book or a more complete listing of books in that vein?
I've been on vacation here in Orlando starting the day after Jon Katz arrived. I can tell you for a fact that this city has a MILLION stories waiting to be told. Jon: I found the bench where you and you AC Imagineer met. Just did he Epcot thing yesterday. Oddly enoght the bench was roped off and there were DBI agents everywhere. Better get out of Orlando man, they are coming for YOU! Seriously though, there are a lot of really cool tech things going on in and around Orlando. There is also a BADASS electroic/aviation industry surplus shop called Skycraft that rocked so hard I drooled all over the toys availible there. Ah well...Katz is fluffing out again, it happens. Hopefully he will get back to some more important writings soon...
Hmm...Wonder if Carmack was involved in that in any way...
I know he started off professionaly doing IIgs stuffs. The guy who got me started in computers was a BIG IIgshead (to the point of hating Macs for killing off his beloved IIgs) and apparantly talked code and such with Carmack on various occasions.
My guess is that at minimum the Apple ][ version was an infulence on Wolf 3D.
"Accelerated-X is like a fresh set of tires on brand-new blacktop."
That statement becomes all the more funny when you realize that in real life if you start to get too jiggy with new tires on fresh blacktop you'll soon end up in a ditch. Zero traction. Believe me, I watched my roommate NAIL his brand new '99 Subaru Legacy GT into a median due to excatly those conditions...
Actually, if you think about it, you may have just proven the opposite point with you example. I made the mistake of buying Stunt after hearing "One Week" on the radio. How many more people might have done the same, if the only taste they got of the album was "One Week" in an early release MP3?
Piracy is piracy you say, but what consititues piracy? The "stealing" of profits from the rightful owner? I'd say that suffices for a simple definition, and by that messure, there is no piracy here. As was mentioned previously, there is very little chance that the Episode One soundtrack will be released in any singles form, so the worst that happens is some people that would have bought the album based on past experience with Williams music might hear this track and decided they didn't like the new stuff and thus not purchase the album. However, the other side of that is true as well. Many people who wouldn't have spent money on a CD full of music they didn't know will now have the chance to hear it and thus the prospective audience for the CD increases.
Ah, but how many artists really object? I have yet to hear any of the people who actually MAKE the music complain about mp3's. It seems to be only the Record Companies (or agents/professional ogranizations of the record compaines) that are up in arms over the whole thing.
For instance, the whole thing about Public Enemy's company forcing them to pull one of their own songs (in mp3 format) from their website. Come on now. Who are you protecting?
I drew roughly the same conculsions after reading about this "security" issue with Open Source. I actually read the article twice to try to find the deeper meaning that I _had_ to have missed. Never found anything else though. Hmm, I just can't see this as a security problem inheirent to open source, but to source code in general. Ah well. The fact that there seems to be a certain condecending tone to the article does lower my opinion of the rest of what Mr. Mettler had to say.
Ok, let me restate what has already been said...
Trade secrets do not have legal protection from anyone outside the company. All trade secrect laws deal with employees leaking information, NOT outside individuals or companies reverse engineering products.
HTH
If you must give in to the you elitest flaming side, could you at least list a refrence to either an individual example of such a book or a more complete listing of books in that vein?
Thanks...
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Gellor
Before I nitpick let me say that I agree with your post in all but the final detail.
;)
IRC hasn't quite been around a decade yet...but still...point granted.
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Gellor
who is feeling analretentive today...
Either...
1) You are smoking crack...
and thus should share it...
OR
2) You are a troll...PLONK!
Am I the only person who would rather read so-called "karma whore" postingings than whines about said same postings?
Karma isn't really working out...ah well..
Oh..btw, I've enjoyed every post I've seen of Dan's.
Actually that was an a VERY small snippet of the DVD-FAQ. It took me a couple hours to read through the whole thing the first time I read it.
Just an FYI.
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Gellor
OR....
:)
Just go to clubs where the DJ's care what you want to hear.
I love how 3l33t most DJ's seem to think they are.
"I am your musical GOD you NEED what I play for you..."
Bah..
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Gellor
No. Actually I think it would be about twice as popular. Porn is what holds the net together don'tcha know?
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Gellor
I've been on vacation here in Orlando starting the day after Jon Katz arrived. I can tell you for a fact that this city has a MILLION stories waiting to be told. Jon: I found the bench where you and you AC Imagineer met. Just did he Epcot thing yesterday. Oddly enoght the bench was roped off and there were DBI agents everywhere. Better get out of Orlando man, they are coming for YOU! Seriously though, there are a lot of really cool tech things going on in and around Orlando. There is also a BADASS electroic/aviation industry surplus shop called Skycraft that rocked so hard I drooled all over the toys availible there. Ah well...Katz is fluffing out again, it happens. Hopefully he will get back to some more important writings soon...
Hmm...Wonder if Carmack was involved in that in any way...
I know he started off professionaly doing IIgs stuffs. The guy who got me started in computers was a BIG IIgshead (to the point of hating Macs for killing off his beloved IIgs) and apparantly talked code and such with Carmack on various occasions.
My guess is that at minimum the Apple ][ version was an infulence on Wolf 3D.
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Gellor One-Eye
"Accelerated-X is like a fresh set of tires on brand-new blacktop."
That statement becomes all the more funny when you realize that in real life if you start to get too jiggy with new tires on fresh blacktop you'll soon end up in a ditch. Zero traction. Believe me, I watched my roommate NAIL his brand new '99 Subaru Legacy GT into a median due to excatly those conditions...
Actually, if you think about it, you may have just proven the opposite point with you example. I made the mistake of buying Stunt after hearing "One Week" on the radio. How many more people might have done the same, if the only taste they got of the album was "One Week" in an early release MP3?
Piracy is piracy you say, but what consititues piracy? The "stealing" of profits from the rightful owner? I'd say that suffices for a simple definition, and by that messure, there is no piracy here. As was mentioned previously, there is very little chance that the Episode One soundtrack will be released in any singles form, so the worst that happens is some people that would have bought the album based on past experience with Williams music might hear this track and decided they didn't like the new stuff and thus not purchase the album. However, the other side of that is true as well. Many people who wouldn't have spent money on a CD full of music they didn't know will now have the chance to hear it and thus the prospective audience for the CD increases.
Blah..I'm rambling...
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Gellor
Ah, but how many artists really object? I have yet to hear any of the people who actually MAKE the music complain about mp3's. It seems to be only the Record Companies (or agents/professional ogranizations of the record compaines) that are up in arms over the whole thing.
For instance, the whole thing about Public Enemy's company forcing them to pull one of their own songs (in mp3 format) from their website. Come on now. Who are you protecting?
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Gellor
I drew roughly the same conculsions after reading about this "security" issue with Open Source. I actually read the article twice to try to find the deeper meaning that I _had_ to have missed. Never found anything else though. Hmm, I just can't see this as a security problem inheirent to open source, but to source code in general. Ah well. The fact that there seems to be a certain condecending tone to the article does lower my opinion of the rest of what Mr. Mettler had to say.