Hmm, so would this make UPS's and FEDex's package tracking obsolete. If you get really creative you could build instructions in the cell and maybe have it e-mail you when it reaches the terminal or when it reaches the destination, I mean of course there would have to be special recievers built for this but it is a cool idea.
As far as I understand MS already has a group doing a clean room version of Java and even if they don't HP does and we all know HP and MS are very friendly so if MS can't do their own quick enough they will just license it from HP, so this does not really set back MS that badly but it is good since it does mean they have to at least for now cease their products altogether or bring their products to compliance which they are definatly not happy about. As well even if they do use a clean room version they can not use the Sun Java logo which trust me makes a difference, so although MS will recover it does suck for them.
If you believe the US is a real FREE MARKET then you need to wake up. The US has and hopefully never will be a true lassie(sp?) faire economy. In a true FREE MARKET then consumers would have no laws to protect them at all, everything would depend on consumer power to stop companies from doing anything wrong. We know very well that this is way too ideal and in most cases will never work, remeber communism was supposed to be a utopia and well you can see quite clearly how that worked out. Ideals don't exist in real life only in labratories, a real FREE MARKET dosen't work because once a company is large enough the power needed to stop it is beyond that of the consumers. MS has proven that consumers can be abused and abused and abused and abused, did I mention abused and supposedly we have laws to protect us, the lemon law comes to mind here, I don't know why people haven't attempted to use it. You may say if the consumer allows themself to be abused then they deserve it but I say most don't have a clue so they don't know what the hell they want and how well it should work and therefore really have no clue the level of crap that is being piled on top of them. Consumers would never accept a car that has 10% of the amount of problems Windows has (sorry it is a loose analogy but try to see it) but that is becuase cars have been around for so long that people know what to expect from a car and won't except less.
It is great that there is actually a choice, but even though I prefer GNOME for personal reasons KDE is the choice for anyone attempting to build complex and large applications. The strongest and most understated strength of KDE is that is built on top of the MICO implementation of CORBA . Which is by very far the most advanced free implementation out there, as compared to ORBit which is what GNOME uses. This makes the real difference, at least to me. CORBA is a very powerful tool and having a robust implementation really makes a big difference. Eventually GNOME will catch up but for now for serious development it has to be KDE.
Would this get me arrested, or fined for coding without a license?
No, a mechanical engineer can design anything he/she wants on their own time but to do any real work they need a PE licence. Computers are or are becoming an integral part of critical systems such as air control, power facilities, medical equipment, etc... There are many ethical issues when designing systems like these, is it okay to take this shortcut even though it may increase the risk of death? The Industry is very immature, people are right that programmers are being hired out of nowhere and looks at the garbage that is getting put out there. Hacking code and building real-time critical and scalable systems are very different things and the latter of these is not an art but a process and a skill that takes many years to learn.
When it was first used, the code that has now given us Y2K was a good idea, more or less.
Yes you are right it was a good idea, but since there was no Engineering process involved the problem ended up getting ignored until it has become this scary monster it is now. When you have a process, it allows a company to catch these problem before they become an issue. Most people coding out there have no clue what a engineering process is none the less what a good solid process that results in an at least decent piece of software is. Sure there are plenty of hacks that can make code work and get it working fast but what about when they leave, what if they die, you know what in most cases the company is screwed, that dosen't happen (well in general) in fields like mechanical or aerospace engineering.
All work can be made an art, but doing it right and ethical comes first, then you can be as creative as you like. There is only magic to programming because it is such an immature field, once it matures out it will be no more magical then any other engineering field. I mean magic is great, beautiful and ideal but I don't want magic running the plane I fly in I want a well engineered piece of software that I can count my life on!
Your a business not a student or and educational user, if you where either it would be basically free, but you are not. If your business requires you use Sun products then what you are paying is more then worth it period. I can understand that for a small business it may be expensive but you are a business none the less and therefore it is hard for me to have the same sympathy for you. If you are a small business you have other options and if it is not your choice but someone you work for then do you care, it is not your money anyway.
You would figure they would eventually learn right? I don't get it what are they thinking, I mean it is not like the Justice Dept needs any more ammo. Well if there is a strategy to this I don't get it.
A while ago Scientific American had a great article on QWERTY and to make a long story short QWERTY basically won out because of good marketing not because it was better, but we should all be familar with this phenomenon by now. I don't have access to my old issues right now else I would post the issue it was in as well. If you are really interested in knowing the facts and someone dosen't post it I will find and post which issue it was from in a day or so. I wasn't able to find it on their website but it may be there.
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Hmm, so would this make UPS's and FEDex's package tracking obsolete. If you get really creative you could build instructions in the cell and maybe have it e-mail you when it reaches the terminal or when it reaches the destination, I mean of course there would have to be special recievers built for this but it is a cool idea.
Well to any of those that wonder why the US and other goverments want key escrow so badly here you go.
As far as I understand MS already has a group doing a clean room version of Java and even if they don't HP does and we all know HP and MS are very friendly so if MS can't do their own quick enough they will just license it from HP, so this does not really set back MS that badly but it is good since it does mean they have to at least for now cease their products altogether or bring their products to compliance which they are definatly not happy about. As well even if they do use a clean room version they can not use the Sun Java logo which trust me makes a difference, so although MS will recover it does suck for them.
Where do you get this from, have you actually seen this in print?
If you believe the US is a real FREE MARKET then you need to wake up. The US has and hopefully never will be a true lassie(sp?) faire economy. In a true FREE MARKET then consumers would have no laws to protect them at all, everything would depend on consumer power to stop companies from doing anything wrong. We know very well that this is way too ideal and in most cases will never work, remeber communism was supposed to be a utopia and well you can see quite clearly how that worked out. Ideals don't exist in real life only in labratories, a real FREE MARKET dosen't work because once a company is large enough the power needed to stop it is beyond that of the consumers. MS has proven that consumers can be abused and abused and abused and abused, did I mention abused and supposedly we have laws to protect us, the lemon law comes to mind here, I don't know why people haven't attempted to use it. You may say if the consumer allows themself to be abused then they deserve it but I say most don't have a clue so they don't know what the hell they want and how well it should work and therefore really have no clue the level of crap that is being piled on top of them. Consumers would never accept a car that has 10% of the amount of problems Windows has (sorry it is a loose analogy but try to see it) but that is becuase cars have been around for so long that people know what to expect from a car and won't except less.
Nuff said
It is great that there is actually a choice, but even though I prefer GNOME for personal reasons KDE is the choice for anyone attempting to build complex and large applications. The strongest and most understated strength of KDE is that is built on top of the MICO implementation of CORBA . Which is by very far the most advanced free implementation out there, as compared to ORBit which is what GNOME uses. This makes the real difference, at least to me. CORBA is a very powerful tool and having a robust implementation really makes a big difference. Eventually GNOME will catch up but for now for serious development it has to be KDE.
Go to Dragon's Den, pretty much the best prices and pre-order too.
Would this get me arrested, or fined for coding
without a license?
No, a mechanical engineer can design anything he/she wants on their own time but to do any real work they need a PE licence. Computers are or are becoming an integral part of critical systems such as air control, power facilities, medical equipment, etc... There are many ethical issues when designing systems like these, is it okay to take this shortcut even though it may increase the risk of death? The Industry is very immature, people are right that programmers are being hired out of nowhere and looks at the garbage that is getting put out there. Hacking code and building real-time critical and scalable systems are very different things and the latter of these is not an art but a process and a skill that takes many years to learn.
When it was first used, the code that has now given us Y2K was a good idea, more
or less.
Yes you are right it was a good idea, but since there was no Engineering process involved the problem ended up getting ignored until it has become this scary monster it is now. When you have a process, it allows a company to catch these problem before they become an issue. Most people coding out there have no clue what a engineering process is none the less what a good solid process that results in an at least decent piece of software is. Sure there are plenty of hacks that can make code work and get it working fast but what about when they leave, what if they die, you know what in most cases the company is screwed, that dosen't happen (well in general) in fields like mechanical or aerospace engineering.
All work can be made an art, but doing it right and ethical comes first, then you can be as creative as you like. There is only magic to programming because it is such an immature field, once it matures out it will be no more magical then any other engineering field. I mean magic is great, beautiful and ideal but I don't want magic running the plane I fly in I want a well engineered piece of software that I can count my life on!
Your a business not a student or and educational user, if you where either it would be basically free, but you are not. If your business requires you use Sun products then what you are paying is more then worth it period. I can understand that for a small business it may be expensive but you are a business none the less and therefore it is hard for me to have the same sympathy for you. If you are a small business you have other options and if it is not your choice but someone you work for then do you care, it is not your money anyway.
My $0.02
You would figure they would eventually learn right? I don't get it what are they thinking, I mean it is not like the Justice Dept needs any more ammo. Well if there is a strategy to this I don't get it.
Puzzled
A while ago Scientific American had a great article on QWERTY and to make a long story short QWERTY basically won out because of good marketing not because it was better, but we should all be familar with this phenomenon by now. I don't have access to my old issues right now else I would post the issue it was in as well. If you are really interested in knowing the facts and someone dosen't post it I will find and post which issue it was from in a day or so. I wasn't able to find it on their website but it may be there.