Speeding is not an arrestable offense in the USA or any country I've lived in. Any evidence from the "search incident to arrest" would get tossed out of court since the arrest was faulty.
Speeding gets you a ticket, not arrested. Any idiot knows that.
Not quite correct - I believe the deal is that it is the officer's discretion to give you a ticket in lieu of arrest. Most often this discretion is exercised. If the officer suspects something, or just wants to jack you up, etc, he can ask to search the car. Refuse and you will face arrest. Fail to keep you hands visible, etc, and you may find yourself shot.
I don't "hate the US government" at all but yeah, this is the way it is. Especially if your not an average looking white guy (which I am) or a hot looking white woman.
You tell me to "get over it" and then type about 10 times more words than I did.
The question is not "is this legit?", but "how can we manipulate belief"?And you yourself are doing what, exactly? Do you really believe I'm part of the "conservative political machine? (If I am they should fire me, obviously I suck).
We should both be modded for being offtopic. If you'd read my own replies to my own post you'd see I already agreed with you. Now who's piling on?
My point with the view that America's so in love with itself, so preoccupied with its own culture, economy, language, etc, that often American companies and government -less frequent individuals- seem to have the idea they have the right to make decisions, be it legally or morally, about what happens beyond its borders
I can think of one very large non-democratic entity making rules that contravine national sovereignty - the EU.
For instance, to stick with the topic here, law on the 'net. For some reason, most disputes are settled in American courts; most rules about the way the internet should work are made either directly or indirectly by the American government; and most problems with unreasonable patents, domainnames, fair use etc. seem to be an effect of this American, corporate culture.
The EU is catching up fast. You will have DMCA and worse soon. You will have software patents. Independant developers and entrepreneurs will have less freedom to innovate. And you will have even less say about it than we do: because the EU is less democratic than the US and because the huge corporate vested interests usually have the power of the state behind them. Case in point: WorldCom was huge and corrupt, and Enron had politicians in its pockets - but ultimately both failed, and people will go to jail. Deutch Telekom is in horrible trouble, but it is too big to fail (and it's bike racing team sucks, too), the government is the biggest shareholder - in America we would call this crony capitalism and corruption, plain and simple.
I don't understand why (/how) America ends up with what seems a big part of the control over the net;
I see europe trying to do the same thing: assert it's values on the net, with censorship, its rules about personal information, etc. Fortunately for both of us, they have both so far failed. I have a hard time seeing cybersquatters messing with established trademarks as victims of amerikan imperialism. I think that established european vendors will have the same reaction.
This doesn't improve with the mono-culture 'one language, one flag, one god' that seems to live under the skin of many
Why is it that it is so acceptible to propogate libelous steriotypes against americans? Excuse me but one god my ass. My ancestors were learning to live peacefully with each other's different conception of God at a time when the wars of the Reformation were decimating Europe. The truth that patriotism gives me the creeps too, sometimes - but I understand that reaction for what it is, a predjudice and and aesthetic judgement. Too bad most europeans give so much weight to their own predjudices in a way they wouldn't dare with say Turks or Sudanese. Hey, it's just the way we are - don't we get to be us? Everybody else does!
After a review of the available literature I would have to say the story has aspects of both trolling (subtle, passive/agressive, trying to pass itself off as serious and erudite) and flamebait (overtly abusive).
There often are at least _some_ people who question their country and government, amongst all the modded-up self-love.
I don't question my country or government. I question it's policies, laws, and yes attitudes. That I am free to do so obviates my need to question the government itself. This is not a tautology: the day I don't feel I can do this is the day I start questioning the government. Sadly this day has come already for some Americans; for a much better rebuttal than I can manage see Eugene Volokh's post.
I think it's a cultural problem, too
I agree: the european experience of nationalism is very different from the american. Expressions of devotion to one's country are seen in europe as inherently fascist and oppressive; not so here. I can rant against my country's stupidity as well (no, better) than the next guy but I can still fly the flag proudly. Do you have any problem with that besides aesthetics?
Tell me, do you know another country that sells itself so much as America?
No. But so what? What's the issue?
Don't mean to be pretentious, but... do you speak another language than English?
Speak? No. I have a reading knowledge of french and use it to read bike racing (basically a european sport) news on the web. English is all that is spoke within thousands of km from where I live. I 'spose I could watch spanish TV - spanish being the language of our largest immigrant population. What is your largest immigrant population? Do you speak their language?
Ah. That's right. And now it's America's turn for 'tude, huh...
What you see as 'tude is simply american sentiment. It is not something americans affect, it is genuine. Here is some actual 'tude: what happened to belgians in the Tour? Things sure have slipped since Eddy's day. Better hope that Americans don't start taking soccer seriously or europe won't see the world cup again for a hundred years. There, thats 'tude.
Not that I don't agree with you in this specific case, but it's rather painfully ironic to always see people with criticism towards the US being modded down. And on top of that, nationalistic pro-American posts modded up.
Neither ironic nor painful. Good criticisms of the "American Way" are modded up every few milliseconds of every day on slashdot. Thompson is not getting "modded down" because he's anti American. He's getting modded down because he makes no sense.
And on top of that, nationalistic pro-American posts modded up.
I don't see any general trend for this. If you count all the massive criticism of US laws and behavior regarding the internet, I hardly see the case that slashdot is a "pro american" forum. I agree that America stands to benefit from criticism - but so much of the current variety is pretty onanistic in scope.
Might have something to do with the actual problem, though.
Europe has no right to complain about 'tude. Europe invented 'tude.
Once again, need to mod the story "-1, Troll". The important thing to note here is that this guy is not writing a serious proposal to create another net, he's just stringing together a bunch of muck which releases all the dopamine in his brain to make him feel warm and fuzzy, knowing that bunches of american geeks will be wrung through the adrenalin/cortisol wringer as a result of reading it. Don't give him the satisfaction.
Speaking as a CS person and a bike racer: your estimates are pretty good but a bit optimistic. I actually have a bike computer that measures power output, so my numbers are pretty good. I can produce 300W for an hour during the racing season, and I'm pretty average... but I wouldn't say it was easy (I did over 5000 training miles this year). Lance can keep up about 450W for an hour (which I can keep up for about one minute), and he's about the limit. To do 700W would require something other than blood to be pumping in your arteries.
Exactly. You can't copyright them either. If it were a copyright issue then most of the cells in my body would be in violation. They copy DNA all the time. Therefore: DMCA does not apply in any case.
Anyway god owns all the IP on the sequences. Historically we have had an exclusive but limited term license. We are now asked to give up some exclusivity to perhaps get a longer term on that license. It's a deal I would go for.
Why should we own our DNA? If some pharmco makes a bundle of some discover from your DNA, what have they contributed? Major intellectual effort, money and time. What have you contributed? A slimey Q-tip. You get what you give. Royalties paid to people would be akin to a lottery, where your ticket is your DNA. Very few would profit in practice. Got something really valuable? Maybe you are naturally AIDS resistant, or cancer resistant. Hey, hold out for millions. You've got them over a barrel. NOW who is the profiteer? Maybe the IRS will now go after your parents for gift/estate taxes, because after all, you got the DNA from them.
If you want a compromise, maybe consider leaving DNA as private property, but mandating compulsory, nondiscriminatory licensing or something.
Note I am NOT talking about privacy, this is NOT THE SAME as privacy. Taking a routine sample and telling your employer you are at risk of Alzheimers is a heinous crime, and should always be (same goes for any other medical test). Read the article. The Oregon bill is a DNA privacy bill for a reason. The drug companies have a vested interest in maintaining privacy because they know they will be lynched otherwise.
Intel is hardly the first to patent aspects of an instruction set. Nobody ever cloned the VAX, because essential aspects of the instruction set were patented. The IBM 370 arch was widely cloned because it was not protected. There are intel patents on the x86 arch and microarch, but (apparently) not sufficent to prevent cloning. MIPS has patents around a few instructions but one embedded CPU company (Lexra?) got around it by not implementing those load instructions. Aspects of the Alpha arch are patented IIRC. No alpha clones, sorry. In short - looking for 'good guys'? keep looking. No modern processor instruction sets are unprotected.
not speaking for my employer. whoever that may be.
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you own a public plaza?
dude. you cannot own a public plaza. think.
skinhead should be able to use truly public plaza. if anyone hassles him, i defend skinhead. skinhead tries to use my private driveway, i hassle skinhead. why should my private driveway (or backyard) be required to be available to skinhead? and by not letting skinhead use my driveway, i'm the fascist? um...no.
If and when Sun decides that Java is a "complete" language (i.e., no more major additions or modifications to the core language), then that might be a good time to turn it over to something like the ISO.
Java will be "complete" when Win32 is "complete"... ie when it is abandoned forever. Dude, FORTRAN isn't "complete"...
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Speeding is not an arrestable offense in the USA or any country I've lived in. Any evidence from the "search incident to arrest" would get tossed out of court since the arrest was faulty.
Speeding gets you a ticket, not arrested. Any idiot knows that.
Not quite correct - I believe the deal is that it is the officer's discretion to give you a ticket in lieu of arrest. Most often this discretion is exercised. If the officer suspects something, or just wants to jack you up, etc, he can ask to search the car. Refuse and you will face arrest. Fail to keep you hands visible, etc, and you may find yourself shot.
I don't "hate the US government" at all but yeah, this is the way it is. Especially if your not an average looking white guy (which I am) or a hot looking white woman.
You tell me to "get over it" and then type about 10 times more words than I did.
The question is not "is this legit?", but "how can we manipulate belief"?And you yourself are doing what, exactly? Do you really believe I'm part of the "conservative political machine? (If I am they should fire me, obviously I suck).
We should both be modded for being offtopic. If you'd read my own replies to my own post you'd see I already agreed with you. Now who's piling on?
Sorry to shout. This is the author of the parent.
As several readers pointed out, this is old and off topic. Which I acknowledge - I was careless in posting this.
Do NOT waste mod points modding it up, please.
Mod DOWN, if you wish.
If you want to call me a Troll, fine, whatever. I can cope.
That is all.
You're quite right, it was a 2004 story. My bad. Really. Shouldn't have posted it.
So why did I think it was still current? Maybe it was Mary Mapes' idiotic book.
So I made one (admittedly erronious) Slashdot post, and she wrote a whole friggin book about some alternate reality in which the memos weren't forged.
I do hope you give her the same beat down.
Quite right, this is old. My mistake. Seemed like yesterday. Shot from the hip. What can I say.
Moderators, mod the parent down. Really.
Again, my sincere appologies.
How 'bout this one?
"If the documents are not what we were led to believe, I'd like to break that story,"
Dan Rather, referring to the forged Texas Air National Guard documents.
Horse. Barn. Gone.
And it will be called "campaign finance reform".
Have opinions on candidates? Have a blog? Comment on blogs? Hit tipjars? Too vocal and influential?
Look forward to visits from the FEC.
Money is speech, speech is money. Talk too much and you'll be over the limit for campaign contributions.
Thank the honorable senators McCain and Feingold.
You obviously have a defective robot.
I own a publicly traded company.
You here demonstrate you have no idea what a publicly traded company actually is.
New slogan: China: M countries, N systems!
Could be worse. At least Ellison's MIG isn't armed.
Ask her why the policy of the WIPO is to attack IBM's business model.
Ask IBM why they are paying lobbyists to attack their own business model. (IBM belongs to the BSA).
Um, fyi, that would be Robert Fripp...
I can think of one very large non-democratic entity making rules that contravine national sovereignty - the EU.
For instance, to stick with the topic here, law on the 'net. For some reason, most disputes are settled in American courts; most rules about the way the internet should work are made either directly or indirectly by the American government; and most problems with unreasonable patents, domainnames, fair use etc. seem to be an effect of this American, corporate culture.
The EU is catching up fast. You will have DMCA and worse soon. You will have software patents. Independant developers and entrepreneurs will have less freedom to innovate. And you will have even less say about it than we do: because the EU is less democratic than the US and because the huge corporate vested interests usually have the power of the state behind them. Case in point: WorldCom was huge and corrupt, and Enron had politicians in its pockets - but ultimately both failed, and people will go to jail. Deutch Telekom is in horrible trouble, but it is too big to fail (and it's bike racing team sucks, too), the government is the biggest shareholder - in America we would call this crony capitalism and corruption, plain and simple.
I don't understand why (/how) America ends up with what seems a big part of the control over the net;
I see europe trying to do the same thing: assert it's values on the net, with censorship, its rules about personal information, etc. Fortunately for both of us, they have both so far failed. I have a hard time seeing cybersquatters messing with established trademarks as victims of amerikan imperialism. I think that established european vendors will have the same reaction.
This doesn't improve with the mono-culture 'one language, one flag, one god' that seems to live under the skin of many
Why is it that it is so acceptible to propogate libelous steriotypes against americans? Excuse me but one god my ass. My ancestors were learning to live peacefully with each other's different conception of God at a time when the wars of the Reformation were decimating Europe. The truth that patriotism gives me the creeps too, sometimes - but I understand that reaction for what it is, a predjudice and and aesthetic judgement. Too bad most europeans give so much weight to their own predjudices in a way they wouldn't dare with say Turks or Sudanese. Hey, it's just the way we are - don't we get to be us? Everybody else does!
After a review of the available literature I would have to say the story has aspects of both trolling (subtle, passive/agressive, trying to pass itself off as serious and erudite) and flamebait (overtly abusive).
I don't question my country or government. I question it's policies, laws, and yes attitudes. That I am free to do so obviates my need to question the government itself. This is not a tautology: the day I don't feel I can do this is the day I start questioning the government. Sadly this day has come already for some Americans; for a much better rebuttal than I can manage see Eugene Volokh's post.
I think it's a cultural problem, too
I agree: the european experience of nationalism is very different from the american. Expressions of devotion to one's country are seen in europe as inherently fascist and oppressive; not so here. I can rant against my country's stupidity as well (no, better) than the next guy but I can still fly the flag proudly. Do you have any problem with that besides aesthetics?
Tell me, do you know another country that sells itself so much as America?
No. But so what? What's the issue?
Don't mean to be pretentious, but... do you speak another language than English?
Speak? No. I have a reading knowledge of french and use it to read bike racing (basically a european sport) news on the web. English is all that is spoke within thousands of km from where I live. I 'spose I could watch spanish TV - spanish being the language of our largest immigrant population. What is your largest immigrant population? Do you speak their language?
Ah. That's right. And now it's America's turn for 'tude, huh...
What you see as 'tude is simply american sentiment. It is not something americans affect, it is genuine. Here is some actual 'tude: what happened to belgians in the Tour? Things sure have slipped since Eddy's day. Better hope that Americans don't start taking soccer seriously or europe won't see the world cup again for a hundred years. There, thats 'tude.
Neither ironic nor painful. Good criticisms of the "American Way" are modded up every few milliseconds of every day on slashdot. Thompson is not getting "modded down" because he's anti American. He's getting modded down because he makes no sense.
And on top of that, nationalistic pro-American posts modded up.
I don't see any general trend for this. If you count all the massive criticism of US laws and behavior regarding the internet, I hardly see the case that slashdot is a "pro american" forum. I agree that America stands to benefit from criticism - but so much of the current variety is pretty onanistic in scope.
Might have something to do with the actual problem, though.
Europe has no right to complain about 'tude. Europe invented 'tude.
Once again, need to mod the story "-1, Troll".
The important thing to note here is that this guy is not writing a serious proposal to create another net, he's just stringing together a bunch of muck which releases all the dopamine in his brain to make him feel warm and fuzzy, knowing that bunches of american geeks will be wrung through the adrenalin/cortisol wringer as a result of reading it.
Don't give him the satisfaction.
Speaking as a CS person and a bike racer: your estimates are pretty good but a bit optimistic. I actually have a bike computer that measures power output, so my numbers are pretty good. I can produce 300W for an hour during the racing season, and I'm pretty average... but I wouldn't say it was easy (I did over 5000 training miles this year). Lance can keep up about 450W for an hour (which I can keep up for about one minute), and he's about the limit. To do 700W would require something other than blood to be pumping in your arteries.
(If you think it's obvious, why did it take so long for someone to publish?)
Another nice property of this patent: it has expired.
Anyway god owns all the IP on the sequences. Historically we have had an exclusive but limited term license. We are now asked to give up some exclusivity to perhaps get a longer term on that license. It's a deal I would go for.
Why should we own our DNA? If some pharmco makes a bundle of some discover from your DNA, what have they contributed? Major intellectual effort, money and time. What have you contributed? A slimey Q-tip. You get what you give. Royalties paid to people would be akin to a lottery, where your ticket is your DNA. Very few would profit in practice. Got something really valuable? Maybe you are naturally AIDS resistant, or cancer resistant. Hey, hold out for millions. You've got them over a barrel. NOW who is the profiteer? Maybe the IRS will now go after your parents for gift/estate taxes, because after all, you got the DNA from them.
If you want a compromise, maybe consider leaving DNA as private property, but mandating compulsory, nondiscriminatory licensing or something.
Note I am NOT talking about privacy, this is NOT THE SAME as privacy. Taking a routine sample and telling your employer you are at risk of Alzheimers is a heinous crime, and should always be (same goes for any other medical test). Read the article. The Oregon bill is a DNA privacy bill for a reason. The drug companies have a vested interest in maintaining privacy because they know they will be lynched otherwise.
not speaking for my employer. whoever that may be.
you own a public plaza? dude. you cannot own a public plaza. think. skinhead should be able to use truly public plaza. if anyone hassles him, i defend skinhead. skinhead tries to use my private driveway, i hassle skinhead. why should my private driveway (or backyard) be required to be available to skinhead? and by not letting skinhead use my driveway, i'm the fascist? um...no.
If and when Sun decides that Java is a "complete" language (i.e., no more major additions or modifications to the core language), then that might be a good time to turn it over to something like the ISO.
Java will be "complete" when Win32 is "complete"... ie when it is abandoned forever. Dude, FORTRAN isn't "complete"...
My point? Same as yours. Standards are oversold.