Wrong wrong wrong. There is no proof of anything. There is no way to prove something like this. In fact, there is no way to prove most things in science, and I believe it was my eighth-grade science teacher who told me "In science, there are no proofs. There are good theories, and there are bad theories." This is just that -- a theory being put forth by this one paleontologist. It is nothing more than a theory, nor will it ever be.
Umm, no. YOU CANNOT TURN OFF PRELOADING OF THE IE COMPONENTS IN WINDOWS 98 AND LATER. Turning off active desktop does NOT stop the preload. Trust me, I've traced through explorer.exe more than I care to admit debugging stuff in Wine.
I never said anything about ActiveDesktop. ActiveDesktop has nothing to do with this. I'm talking about Explorer, the default Windows shell. explorer.exe. Not ActiveDesktop, not IE, Explorer. Explorer is the shell that gives you a desktop to put your icons on, puts background wallpaper on your screen, shows you the nifty taskbar and start menu, etc. Explorer is NOT ActiveDesktop!
You can disable Explorer. In your win.ini or system.ini file (I can't remember which off the top of my head) you will find a line that says, "SHELL=explorer.exe". Replace "explorer.exe" with "command.com", and a command prompt will be used as your shell rather than Explorer. Since Explorer is not loaded, no IE components will be preloaded. You can now type "iexplore.exe" in the command prompt to load IE. Pay attention to how fast it loads. There.
The next person who says something about ActiveDesktop gets hit with a pointed stick.
Conclusion: The Windows desktop preloads IE components, and that since those components are already in memory, running iexplore.exe it from the commandline proves nothing.
You obviously didn't read what I wrote. The "Windows desktop" is explorer.exe (not to be confused with iexplore.exe, which is Internet Explorer). explorer.exe is loaded on Windows startup and preloads some IE components. However, in my message, I specifically said that if you disable the loading of explorer.exe (which means that the IE components are not loaded) and then you run iexplore.exe from a commandline, you will find that the load times are almost exactly the same. ActiveDesktop has nothing to do with it, and when explorer.exe is not loaded, the IE components are not loaded in memory.
As you and the clueless/. 'michael' don't seem to understand is that there is nearly impossible for Netscape to compete with MSIE. The biggest complaints I hear are that Netscape is bloated and it takes too long to load up. MSIE would have the same problems if they hadn't embedded everything into the OS. You're loading MSIE when you boot up Windows. You have no choice. If Netscape was able to leverage Windows in the same manner with the Gecko engine, we'd all be in heaven.
This is a load of utter misinformation. Yes, Internet Explorer is loaded as a part of the Windows Explorer shell when Windows loads. However, if you configure Windows not to load the Explorer shell on startup, or to use a different shell, you can then start Internet Explorer separately (from a commandline, for example), and the load time is exactly the same. The simple fact is, IE is far less bloated than Netscape, far more compliant, and just plain faster.
I'm really tired of these stupid flamefest articles on slashdot about Netscape/Mozilla/MSIE. One minute it's/. saying how wonderful mozilla is, keep up the great work, blah blah blah. Then it's michael coming off looking like a class-A idiot.
The only people who come off looking like idiots are people who either ignore the facts or twist them to fit their own opinions. michael has done neither -- he has in fact presented a very valid and well-informed opinion, backed by factual information. You, on the other hand, have not. Between you and michael, I'd say you come off looking like the idiot, my friend.
It might help if the editors would just post the news instead of their opinions.
michael posted the news first, and then gave his opinion. This is what Slashdot has been all about since the very beginning. This is what Chips n' Dip was about back when CmdrTaco was running it from college, even before Slashdot. The fusing of news with opinions is what makes Slashdot different from other bland news sites. Open your eyes.
Surprisingly, I've only seen this mentioned buried deep in a single comment here, but folks...this is not a self-adjusting chair. The only thing that even implies that is the headline of the Slashdot story, which is sad...apparently Slashdot authors don't actually read the articles they post. All this chair does is take sensor readings. It does not adjust itself in any way.
In any case, this chair does serve one very good purpose: research. No doubt the research gleaned from this project will result in some very good data regarding how people sit, and I'm sure some very good chair designs could come from this.
I work for a company that develops a fairly well-known "censorware" product. Today, a coworker of mine who is a QA tester was testing the product and decided, on a whim, to see if it blocked everyone's favorite site, http://goatse.cx (if you haven't seen it already, don't go there -- take my word for it). So he loads up our product, browses to goatse.cx, and lo and behold, the product fails to work.
He goes to the QA manager and informs him of the bug. The QA manager happens to have several people in his office at the time. He decided to test it himself. He loads up the product, everyone gathers around, and completely unaware of what he's about to see, the QA manager browses to goatse.cx. When the page loads, everyone suddenly lunges backwards in surprise, and there is a mad dash to hit ALT-F4, but not before everyone in the room has been permanently damaged by the horrible sight.
I'm willing to bet our product will soon be filtering goatse.cx.
Next time someone asks for such a stupid thing, why not try to talk them into donating to charity? Wasting thousands of dollars on a glued together lego desk is so far beyond reasonable that it can't even be expressed in words.
So you're saying that anything that costs a lot of money and isn't entirely necessary is unreasonable? By this logic, if I get a raise and decide to buy a new sports car, in spite of the fact that my current car is in perfect working order, it is unreasonable for me to by the sports car. I should, instead, donate my extra money to charity. Is that what you're saying?
I say: If you've got extra money, spend it on whatever the hell you want.
Woah. Either you're psychic, or you know me and I don't know you. That sure is weird. But yeah, you're right...Eddy is a damn good manager. The pay...well...it's not anywhere near industry standard, that's all I can say, but hey, it works...
What's all this hoopla about this default password being "discovered" last Tuesday?? For the love of poop, this default password thing wasn't discovered! It's a freaking documented thing, and it's been in every version of Microsoft SQL Server that I've ever used. It goes without saying that anyone who neglects to change the default password is an idiot. How is this a new issue? Microsoft SQL Server has been around for years and years. There's nothing at all new about this. Saying that all this stuff came to light last Tuesday is complete baloney.
Uh, wrong. Completely and utterly wrong. You didn't even read the article, did you? The entire point of the article is that this new technology means that it is no longer necessary to have a pre-generated information set.
I, personally, am very happy with the office layout at McAfee.com, where I work. We have a big building full of nice-sized cubicles. Most employees are in cubicles. Managers and such get offices, which are all along one wall. There is a conference room for those loud meetings, and also an open meeting area for meetings everyone needs to hear. When we get sick of the fluorescent lights, nobody cares if we climb up on our desk and unscrew them. There's big windows all along the outside wall of the office, and lots of sunlight gets in.
Cubicles can sometimes be annoying, but in this case, I actually really like my cubicle. It's big enough, it's lit by sunlight, it's got a ton of deskspace and plenty of drawers, and McAfee.com is nice enough to let me do what I want to it. One of my coworkers took all of the soft cloth padding off of his cubicle walls so that it looks like a big metal industrial box. Kinda cool, actually. I took out one section of one of my walls so that me and my neighbor could interact without having to stand up and talk over the walls.
"Don't forget this is the same company that spearheaded the standardization of CSS, yet still fails to support the standard correctly in their browsers. "
Pardon me? What? Microsoft doesn't support the CSS standard? Are you insane? Internet Explorer 5.5 is the most standard-compliant browser in the universe. And that's pure fact, not opinion. No other browser, not Opera (though it comes close), not Netscape Navigator, not even Mozilla, has the same level of standard-compliance that IE 5.5 does. In fact, Netscape Navigator 4.74 still isn't even anywhere near IE 4.0's level of standards support.
Saying that Microsoft is bad because they don't correctly support CSS is pure blatant ignorance. The point here is, Microsoft spearheaded the standardization of CSS, and now they're the ones who make the most compliant browser. That's a good thing.
You don't own a mouse? Wow. We've really gotta do something about that. You should go down to your local "Olde Computre Shoppe" and buy at least a cheapo two-button mouse. You can get 'em for around $5.
Then again, if you're too lazy to do that (or if you can't afford it) send me an email and I'll be more than happy to go out, buy you a cheapo mouse (do you want parallel or PS/2?) and mail it to you for free. My treat. Just let me know. I can't stand seeing people go mouseless...
From your Geocities homepage, with huge table borders and a black background:
"i am 15 years, and a freshman in my school. i have many interests. my newest interests are computers. i just got into computers, and i am learning how to program them. i am learning to program in python and in c. when i am done with these, i am going to learn assembly and c++. i am also learning to use unix. "
Yeesh. Okay...um....and you think you have some right to tell those of us who have been working in the web industry for five years that we don't know what we're talking about? I suggest you spend a few more years learning about computers, kid, before you go shooting off your mouth when you don't know what you're talking about.
You're an idiot. That's just as bad as Disney.com denying access to anyone who uses Linux, or Yahoo.com denying access to anyone who was referred by the Lycos.com domain. Stop being a lazy punk and write your HTML so that it works on the widest set of browsers possible. If you want people to come to your site, I strongly suggest you don't block IE users, since they make up the vast majority of web surfers.
My stepfather worked in SIGINT in the NSA in Germany in the 80s and early 90s, and he's told me many stories about being hot on the trail of something big and then having to end the tap or transmission interception immediately because an American citizen came on the line. From what he says, the NSA really does take Executive Order 12333 very seriously. No matter how important the information was that they were receiving, if an American came on the line, they had to shut down the tap.
I wish more people here had as much sense in their heads as you appear to. For some reason, the Slashdot crowd seems to be overly paranoid about things like this. Too much X-Files, guys. Calm down.
Woah. Now this is amusing. The interview is obviously Slashdotted. But now, it appears, attempting to click-through to the interview on Stomped.com redirects me right back to Slashdot. Wheee!
Erm...perhaps I'm just ignorant (and that's usually the case), but aren't there a whole bunch of starving, poverty-stricken people in India? What makes more sense: spending millions (billions?) of dollars on kicking off a space program for no real reason other than peer pressure, or spending those same millions (billions?) on feeding the starving population of your damn country?
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I never said anything about ActiveDesktop. ActiveDesktop has nothing to do with this. I'm talking about Explorer, the default Windows shell. explorer.exe. Not ActiveDesktop, not IE, Explorer. Explorer is the shell that gives you a desktop to put your icons on, puts background wallpaper on your screen, shows you the nifty taskbar and start menu, etc. Explorer is NOT ActiveDesktop!
You can disable Explorer. In your win.ini or system.ini file (I can't remember which off the top of my head) you will find a line that says, "SHELL=explorer.exe". Replace "explorer.exe" with "command.com", and a command prompt will be used as your shell rather than Explorer. Since Explorer is not loaded, no IE components will be preloaded. You can now type "iexplore.exe" in the command prompt to load IE. Pay attention to how fast it loads. There.
The next person who says something about ActiveDesktop gets hit with a pointed stick.
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You obviously didn't read what I wrote. The "Windows desktop" is explorer.exe (not to be confused with iexplore.exe, which is Internet Explorer). explorer.exe is loaded on Windows startup and preloads some IE components. However, in my message, I specifically said that if you disable the loading of explorer.exe (which means that the IE components are not loaded) and then you run iexplore.exe from a commandline, you will find that the load times are almost exactly the same. ActiveDesktop has nothing to do with it, and when explorer.exe is not loaded, the IE components are not loaded in memory.
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This is a load of utter misinformation. Yes, Internet Explorer is loaded as a part of the Windows Explorer shell when Windows loads. However, if you configure Windows not to load the Explorer shell on startup, or to use a different shell, you can then start Internet Explorer separately (from a commandline, for example), and the load time is exactly the same. The simple fact is, IE is far less bloated than Netscape, far more compliant, and just plain faster.
I'm really tired of these stupid flamefest articles on slashdot about Netscape/Mozilla/MSIE. One minute it's /. saying how wonderful mozilla is, keep up the great work, blah blah blah. Then it's michael coming off looking like a class-A idiot.
The only people who come off looking like idiots are people who either ignore the facts or twist them to fit their own opinions. michael has done neither -- he has in fact presented a very valid and well-informed opinion, backed by factual information. You, on the other hand, have not. Between you and michael, I'd say you come off looking like the idiot, my friend.
It might help if the editors would just post the news instead of their opinions.
michael posted the news first, and then gave his opinion. This is what Slashdot has been all about since the very beginning. This is what Chips n' Dip was about back when CmdrTaco was running it from college, even before Slashdot. The fusing of news with opinions is what makes Slashdot different from other bland news sites. Open your eyes.
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In any case, this chair does serve one very good purpose: research. No doubt the research gleaned from this project will result in some very good data regarding how people sit, and I'm sure some very good chair designs could come from this.
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He goes to the QA manager and informs him of the bug. The QA manager happens to have several people in his office at the time. He decided to test it himself. He loads up the product, everyone gathers around, and completely unaware of what he's about to see, the QA manager browses to goatse.cx. When the page loads, everyone suddenly lunges backwards in surprise, and there is a mad dash to hit ALT-F4, but not before everyone in the room has been permanently damaged by the horrible sight.
I'm willing to bet our product will soon be filtering goatse.cx.
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So you're saying that anything that costs a lot of money and isn't entirely necessary is unreasonable? By this logic, if I get a raise and decide to buy a new sports car, in spite of the fact that my current car is in perfect working order, it is unreasonable for me to by the sports car. I should, instead, donate my extra money to charity. Is that what you're saying?
I say: If you've got extra money, spend it on whatever the hell you want.
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Cubicles can sometimes be annoying, but in this case, I actually really like my cubicle. It's big enough, it's lit by sunlight, it's got a ton of deskspace and plenty of drawers, and McAfee.com is nice enough to let me do what I want to it. One of my coworkers took all of the soft cloth padding off of his cubicle walls so that it looks like a big metal industrial box. Kinda cool, actually. I took out one section of one of my walls so that me and my neighbor could interact without having to stand up and talk over the walls.
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Pardon me? What? Microsoft doesn't support the CSS standard? Are you insane? Internet Explorer 5.5 is the most standard-compliant browser in the universe. And that's pure fact, not opinion. No other browser, not Opera (though it comes close), not Netscape Navigator, not even Mozilla, has the same level of standard-compliance that IE 5.5 does. In fact, Netscape Navigator 4.74 still isn't even anywhere near IE 4.0's level of standards support.
Saying that Microsoft is bad because they don't correctly support CSS is pure blatant ignorance. The point here is, Microsoft spearheaded the standardization of CSS, and now they're the ones who make the most compliant browser. That's a good thing.
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Then again, if you're too lazy to do that (or if you can't afford it) send me an email and I'll be more than happy to go out, buy you a cheapo mouse (do you want parallel or PS/2?) and mail it to you for free. My treat. Just let me know. I can't stand seeing people go mouseless...
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Yeesh. Okay...um....and you think you have some right to tell those of us who have been working in the web industry for five years that we don't know what we're talking about? I suggest you spend a few more years learning about computers, kid, before you go shooting off your mouth when you don't know what you're talking about.
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