The "stock market" (selling shares) was initially designed to fund long sea voyages. The investors would help with the big up-front chunk of cash necessary to buy and stock a boat and hire a crew. Their reward was a cut of the profits made on whatever the ship brought home. Everyone benefits. Great system.
Using the same analogy, speculation is then taking advantage of this system by buying a share of the voyage, not because you want the return, but because you think its value will go up and you can turn around and resell it. Speculation adds absolutely nothing to the equation.
I look at it this way: If the legitimate market is usenet, then speculation is $$$$MAKE$$$$MONEY$$$$FAST!!$$$$
I don't know much about Greyworld, but UOX3 has always been open source. (I don't recall if it was GPL'd, but the source was certainly available.)
I remember this because I could never get the SOB to compile on my Alpha.
True about the chunking. I'd even go so far as to say that most adults read phrases rather than words.
However, as a system the Latin alphabet is made up of very few visual elements. Circle, hump, ascending stick, descending stick, and the occasional diagonal line pretty much make up the lowercase alphabet.
Chinese characters are made up of a far larger array of elements (the 216 "radicals" are but a condensed subset) which make scanning much more efficient for those who are literate.
Not only that, but most Japanese can easily recognise 4 different systems of writing: Latin, two indigenous syllabaries, and about 6000 Chinese characters.
It has been mentioned on this thread that there are only about 2000 characters officially designated by the government as necessary. This is technically true.
However, I have in front of me a novel from the 1890's that most Japanese College students would be expected to be able to read. On the first page, I'd say 25% of the characters are on that list of 2000.
You can say a lot of things in Japanese that you would think could only be parsed by a computer...
For example, Japanese tolerates unusually long strings of negations, of the type: if !(i=!(!x))
like:
sore wa fukanou de wa nai to wa hitei dekimasen ne.
"You can't deny that it is not impossible, can you."
"fukanou", "nai", hitei", and "dekimasen" are all negatives.
Another interesting bit is how deeply-layered embedded phrases can get:
Daisuke no heya no tonari no isu no shita no gaban no naka no hon no hyoudai wa "The Story of Ping" (desu).
"The title of the book of the inside of the bag of the underside of the chair of the side of the room of Daisuke is 'The Story of Ping'".
Following the injunction against Napster, 20,000,000 Napster fans worldwide flooded into the Slashdot website en masse, desperate for up-to-date information on alternative sources for thier free misic fixes. "[the injunction against Napster] is like trying to smooth out lumps in a waterbed," said/.'s front man Commandante' Taco, "all you're really doing is swishing the water around." Slashdot, a news forum for self-styled "geeks", is a leading advocate of free software (including many free Napster alternatives), Star Wars, and Hot Grits. "People are realizing that only through free software can men be truly free, t'was always thus, and always thus will be." Said Slashdot's verbose Mr. Antonius Coward, "People understand that Gnutella (a Napster alternative) can never be blocked, sued or injuncted. It has been a great coup for our wicked underground agenda".
Is the issue the forms of the American and Chinese governments at present, or the way conquered minorities have been and are being treated under said governments' control?
The fact that the PRC is (relatively) oppressive really has no bearing on this issue.
China has a Soviet-style federalist system under which registered minorities enjoy a large degree of regional autonomy. Meaning minorities can teach school in their own languages, including the university level, and they are not bound by many laws. For example, minorities do not have to comply with the one-child law.
Contrast this with the US which has been entirely integrationalist, the goal bein nothing less than complete assimilation. No minority groups or languages have any legal status here, (for that matter, neither does English except at the state level). Recent attempts to start programs taught in minority languages/dialects have been soundly derided and defeated. (AAVE and Spanish come immediately to mind) Heck, even Iraqi Kurds are free to do that.
About Nez Perce, touche' on the spelling. I was trying to make it look more French:)
I can only think of two unique things requited to make the 'net work. First there is the NIC, or more specifically the Top Level Domain and the name authority that goes with it. Then there are the 4 NAP's (network access points) that are supposed to be so crucial. 3 of them are on the US East Coast, and 1 is in California. Supposedly all internet traffic eventually goes through one of them. Not sure if that's true anymore. At any rate, I would think making another TLD wouldn't be too hard. I wonder why it hasn't been tried already. It seems silly that there could only be one of something on the internet. Why couldn't there be a competing domain structure? It could use differently numbered TCP ports to communicate so as not to conflict with the existing one, and be somewhat gnutella-like to avoid centralization.
Holy wars and persecution (bad things) have happened in the name of Christianity. Ergo: Christianity is bad.
The LTT (a Sri Lanka Terrorist organization) have assassinated many innocent Hindus in the name of Buddhism. Ergo: Buddhism is bad.
Back in the 20th century during the Russian Revolution, many millions lost their lives in the name of workers rights. Ergo: Workers rights are bad.
In the French revolution, the French royalty were beheadded (bad things) in the name of Democracy. Ergo: Democracy is bad.
To date, over a million Iraqi citizens have lost their lives in a war for Human Rights. Ergo: Human Rights are bad.
I hope you see my point. Bad people will use whatever pretense is available and effective to justify their actions. During colonization (which, make no mistake, was 100% political) Europe was devoutly Christian. "Bringing souls to Christ" was just an effective cover for robbing the natives blind and taking slaves. The general public was no smarter then than it is today, so they bought it. It's as simple as that.
Yes, goddamnit yes? Are you saying the heart of Christianity is a material book and not good will and such? Come on. I seriously doubt that people in China have no exposure to Christianity. They are not that lucky.
If you think Christianity is about dizzy happy thoughts, being nice to people and doing what you're told, you obviously don't know very much about it.
In fact, I think it would be easy to demonstrate that most of your objections to Christianity stem from ideas that themselves are very Christian in nature.
I think in the context of his entire ministry, it's pretty obvious that he wanted potential followers to know that following his doctrine was going to upset their families and divide their communities. Which until Constantine was exactly what happened.
Thank you though for the object lesson in how words can be twisted when taken out of context and interpreted with a malicious intent.
I didn't realize that men having sex with young girls,
That charge is completely unsubstantiated. It was a pretense, like the Gulf of Tonkin or the Mythic Kuwaiti Incubator Babies.
assembling a ton of weapons,
In Texas, that is nowhere near illegal. It is also well known that most of the guns were kept as investments, like a gun dealer would. (ie, they *were* actively trading them, not just intending to).
and most likely burning the place down when the government decides something ain't quite right
That is pure conjecture about there motives. It is also easy to prove with the FBI's own infrared film that the fire was started in the exact same places where the three FBI tanks breached the compound wall, and at exactly the same time.
was included in the phrase 'peacefully assemble'. It doesn't fit perfectly, but it was certainly morally wrong to sit around and do nothing...
On the contrary. After seeing the evidence from both sides I think it does fit perfectly. Those Davidians were set up, and then they were murdered. As neat and simple a case as ever I saw.
I have no opinion one way or another about X in general. I would just like everyone here to sit back and notice that this debate could and would never take place regarding any other "part" of any other "OS". See, the system *does* work! God bless the GPL and peer review.
Slashdot Mirror
I accept atheism as a philosophy, but a religion?
...
[Atheist church service]
Atheist#1: There is no God.
Atheist#2: Nope.
Atheist#1: Nosiree. No God. Not one.
Atheist#2: No God.
Atheist#1:
Atheist#2: Nope.
Atheist#1: I knew this one guy who thought there was a God. I think he was wrong.
Atheist#2: Yeah. He thinks he's going to heaven when he dies, but he's just going to be dead.
Atheist#1: I can prove there is no God.
Atheist#2: That's ok, I'm convinced already.
Atheist#1: Nooooo God.
...
Have I left anything out?
Agreed.
The "stock market" (selling shares) was initially designed to fund long sea voyages. The investors would help with the big up-front chunk of cash necessary to buy and stock a boat and hire a crew. Their reward was a cut of the profits made on whatever the ship brought home. Everyone benefits. Great system.
Using the same analogy, speculation is then taking advantage of this system by buying a share of the voyage, not because you want the return, but because you think its value will go up and you can turn around and resell it. Speculation adds absolutely nothing to the equation.
I look at it this way: If the legitimate market is usenet, then speculation is $$$$MAKE$$$$MONEY$$$$FAST!!$$$$
Well, yes, Todd Flanders did say it on TV. However, some of us who lived in more religious Christian communities heard it every day as children.
I'm moving to Japan in December, it'd be nice if I could get a Linux job there.
Carnivore violates the DMCA!
How delicious.
I don't know much about Greyworld, but UOX3 has always been open source. (I don't recall if it was GPL'd, but the source was certainly available.) I remember this because I could never get the SOB to compile on my Alpha.
Nonsense. Mandarin is absolutely gorgeous!
:)
When it isn't being spoken by native Cantonese speakers that is.
However, as a system the Latin alphabet is made up of very few visual elements. Circle, hump, ascending stick, descending stick, and the occasional diagonal line pretty much make up the lowercase alphabet.
Chinese characters are made up of a far larger array of elements (the 216 "radicals" are but a condensed subset) which make scanning much more efficient for those who are literate.
Not only that, but most Japanese can easily recognise 4 different systems of writing: Latin, two indigenous syllabaries, and about 6000 Chinese characters.
It has been mentioned on this thread that there are only about 2000 characters officially designated by the government as necessary. This is technically true. However, I have in front of me a novel from the 1890's that most Japanese College students would be expected to be able to read. On the first page, I'd say 25% of the characters are on that list of 2000.
You can say a lot of things in Japanese that you would think could only be parsed by a computer... For example, Japanese tolerates unusually long strings of negations, of the type: if !(i=!(!x)) like: sore wa fukanou de wa nai to wa hitei dekimasen ne. "You can't deny that it is not impossible, can you." "fukanou", "nai", hitei", and "dekimasen" are all negatives. Another interesting bit is how deeply-layered embedded phrases can get: Daisuke no heya no tonari no isu no shita no gaban no naka no hon no hyoudai wa "The Story of Ping" (desu). "The title of the book of the inside of the bag of the underside of the chair of the side of the room of Daisuke is 'The Story of Ping'".
Following the injunction against Napster, 20,000,000 Napster fans worldwide flooded into the Slashdot website en masse, desperate for up-to-date information on alternative sources for thier free misic fixes. /.'s front man Commandante' Taco, "all you're really doing is swishing the water around."
"[the injunction against Napster] is like trying to smooth out lumps in a waterbed," said
Slashdot, a news forum for self-styled "geeks", is a leading advocate of free software (including many free Napster alternatives), Star Wars, and Hot Grits.
"People are realizing that only through free software can men be truly free, t'was always thus, and always thus will be." Said Slashdot's verbose Mr. Antonius Coward, "People understand that Gnutella (a Napster alternative) can never be blocked, sued or injuncted. It has been a great coup for our wicked underground agenda".
Slashdot's name is a killing word!
saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaLASHDOT!
Is the issue the forms of the American and Chinese governments at present, or the way conquered minorities have been and are being treated under said governments' control?
:)
The fact that the PRC is (relatively) oppressive really has no bearing on this issue.
China has a Soviet-style federalist system under which registered minorities enjoy a large degree of regional autonomy. Meaning minorities can teach school in their own languages, including the university level, and they are not bound by many laws. For example, minorities do not have to comply with the one-child law.
Contrast this with the US which has been entirely integrationalist, the goal bein nothing less than complete assimilation. No minority groups or languages have any legal status here, (for that matter, neither does English except at the state level). Recent attempts to start programs taught in minority languages/dialects have been soundly derided and defeated. (AAVE and Spanish come immediately to mind) Heck, even Iraqi Kurds are free to do that.
About Nez Perce, touche' on the spelling. I was trying to make it look more French
Touche'
I can only think of two unique things requited to make the 'net work. First there is the NIC, or more specifically the Top Level Domain and the name authority that goes with it. Then there are the 4 NAP's (network access points) that are supposed to be so crucial. 3 of them are on the US East Coast, and 1 is in California. Supposedly all internet traffic eventually goes through one of them. Not sure if that's true anymore. At any rate, I would think making another TLD wouldn't be too hard. I wonder why it hasn't been tried already. It seems silly that there could only be one of something on the internet. Why couldn't there be a competing domain structure? It could use differently numbered TCP ports to communicate so as not to conflict with the existing one, and be somewhat gnutella-like to avoid centralization.
Holy wars and persecution (bad things) have happened in the name of Christianity.
Ergo: Christianity is bad.
The LTT (a Sri Lanka Terrorist organization) have assassinated many innocent Hindus in the name of Buddhism.
Ergo: Buddhism is bad.
Back in the 20th century during the Russian Revolution, many millions lost their lives in the name of workers rights.
Ergo: Workers rights are bad.
In the French revolution, the French royalty were beheadded (bad things) in the name of Democracy.
Ergo: Democracy is bad.
To date, over a million Iraqi citizens have lost their lives in a war for Human Rights.
Ergo: Human Rights are bad.
I hope you see my point. Bad people will use whatever pretense is available and effective to justify their actions. During colonization (which, make no mistake, was 100% political) Europe was devoutly Christian.
"Bringing souls to Christ" was just an effective cover for robbing the natives blind and taking slaves. The general public was no smarter then than it is today, so they bought it. It's as simple as that.
Well said. Wish I had moderation points.
Yes, goddamnit yes? Are you saying the heart of Christianity is a material book and not good will and such? Come on. I seriously doubt that people in China have no exposure to Christianity. They are not that lucky.
If you think Christianity is about dizzy happy thoughts, being nice to people and doing what you're told, you obviously don't know very much about it.
In fact, I think it would be easy to demonstrate that most of your objections to Christianity stem from ideas that themselves are very Christian in nature.
And you think he meant this literally?
I think in the context of his entire ministry, it's pretty obvious that he wanted potential followers to know that following his doctrine was going to upset their families and divide their communities. Which until Constantine was exactly what happened.
Thank you though for the object lesson in how words can be twisted when taken out of context and interpreted with a malicious intent.
There's nothing wrong with you or your ideas that an education won't fix.
I didn't realize that men having sex with young girls,
That charge is completely unsubstantiated. It was a pretense, like the Gulf of Tonkin or the Mythic Kuwaiti Incubator Babies.
assembling a ton of weapons,
In Texas, that is nowhere near illegal. It is also well known that most of the guns were kept as investments, like a gun dealer would. (ie, they *were* actively trading them, not just intending to).
and most likely burning the place down when the government decides something ain't quite right
That is pure conjecture about there motives. It is also easy to prove with the FBI's own infrared film that the fire was started in the exact same places where the three FBI tanks breached the compound wall, and at exactly the same time.
was included in the phrase 'peacefully assemble'. It doesn't fit perfectly, but it was certainly morally wrong to sit around and do nothing...
On the contrary. After seeing the evidence from both sides I think it does fit perfectly. Those Davidians were set up, and then they were murdered.
As neat and simple a case as ever I saw.
It's just an innocent human life, man. Jeez, lighen up!
:)
And violating the constitution, hell everyone does that! You and your morals are harshing my buzz.
What Lincoln did was unconstitutional. No question about it.
So the accidental killing of a college student 30 years ago equates to the situation in Tibet?
I'll spare you the embarrassment of having to admit you don't know jack shit about the situation in Tibet.
It's actually far more analagous to the situation of the Apache, Nez Pearse, or Lakota. Or the Phillipines (though did leave there eventually).
The Tibetans are far better off than the luckiest group of North American natives, and probably even better off than African Americans today.
Even ZD and CNET together don't have as much raw clout as Slashdot. I wouldn't worry.
I have no opinion one way or another about X in general. I would just like everyone here to sit back and notice that this debate could and would never take place regarding any other "part" of any other "OS". See, the system *does* work! God bless the GPL and peer review.