Nothing in the universe is ever completely random. On the other hand, I don't find life on Earth to be so wonderfully orderly that it would necessitate a splendiferous supreme being. Can God be random? What set God in motion?
"It is by will alone I set my God in motion" -- Mentat SqueezeTruck
Giants, dragons and mermaids also seem to be quite universal myths.
As to the flood, the Chinese have had a single contiguous history that covers the time the flood would have taken place. They strangely don't seem to mention it.
What I would like to see is evidence that some other civilization besides that of the Hebrews noticed when Joshua stopped the sun in the sky for an entire day.
The really interesting thing about this thread is just how much you two agree on. That corporations/governments are oppressive entities is not exactly common knowledge.
Contrast this discussion to what you likely would have had here a year ago. I again have hope for the future of this society.
My $.02:
Governments, social democratic,libertarian or otherwise work best when they either: a) respond to the needs of the people, or b) butt out completely.
Corporations are fine so long as they conform to the strictures of the charters under which they were originally organized. Namely, that they "contribute to the common good".
In the US currently we have corporations who have stepped WAY beyond their charters, and are completely unaccountable to the public even when they, say, kill 10,000 people in India. We also have a screwy law that says these fictional legal entities are actually persons with respect to contributing large sums of money to political candidates/parties. Result: the party that can suck up the most corporate dough ends up getting elected.
So is the fact that neither sector gives a flying fsck about the american people a) the fault of the politicians for looking out for their own survival, or is it b) the fault of the corporations for looking out for theirs?
I would say c). Its the fault of the american people for staying silent and or ignorant all this time, and that we today finally set about taking our rightful power back.
Sure, that's why all the geeks *I* know (including myself) marry diminutive subserviant housewife types. Can't let the missus have more of a social life than me! Japanese/Filipinas fit this bill nicely.
Don't get me wrong, in most the areas I'm interesting in dealing with, (big things), I am rabidly self reliant. When it comes to day-to-day maintenance, I'm as helpless as a 3-day-old child.
I'm afraid poster #1 is correct. (Most of) the american underclass has a middle-class lifestyle because the rest of the planet constitutes the *real* american underclass. Your happy meal toys are made by girls/women in Vietnam for a whopping $.06 an hour. That won't even buy them their lunch for the day. Your $120.00 Nike shoes also are all made offshore, mostly in Indonesia with a $5.00 total production cost. The same shoe would cost quadruple to make in the US. More if the workers were paid fairly. How do you afford your middle-class lifestyle?
Don't get me wrong, I use mine all the time. It's just that the design is so awful I'm going to have to replace it. The control pad sticks out of the unit so far that mine always turns on whenever I bump it. This has happened twice already during tests.
On the other hand, I love it when I hand it to people and they turn it over and over trying to figure out how I got the music in there.
There's no law (yet) that says all portable mp3 players have to bow to the RIAA. Get the PMP300 while it's legal and open, and look elsewhere for your next purchase. If the DVD region coding standard is any indication, vendors will probably make any anti-piracy system easy to bypass anyhow.
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USA Beats the Soviet Union by Being More Soviet Than the Soviets. Film at 11.
Yes, the PC belongs to your company (usually), but it gives IS power to monitor more than just the PC's maintenance and welfare. It can read your email as you write it, and automatically extract filter and collate any document on your system. I wrote a SMS batch that scanned all txt and word documents for the word "handcuffs", and returned a copy of the document to the server with the PC owner's name attached. (to show my boss it could be done).
There is also the issue that SMS has a tendency to install itself to the PC's of employees who dial in from home and run all administrative jobs on it as if it were corporate property. The SMS client(s) run as a domain administrator, so by logging in to the corporate domain you automatically give up all ability to stop SMS from doing its thing, short of powering off or disconnecting.
I was one of these IS people. Of COURSE it's a tool of control.
I wouldn't be too concerned though. SMS collects a lot of information, but unless the admin knows *exactly* what he's looking for he won't find it. SMS is very difficult to administer well, it breaks frequently, it is easy to confuse, and it is VERY slow.
If you want to hide something from SMS, get partition magic and change your partitioning slightly from week to week. Eventually SMS will fill up it's MS-SQL (slogan: "just like daddy's") database with 100-some entries on your machine and its contents and cease to be useful.
Wow! Looks like you have 362 copies of Netscape installed!
SMS 2.0 is not only a virus, it's a hellaciously virulent one. Like HP openview it does automatic network discovery, but unlike openview it uses the map it generates as the default list of clients that it will automatically install itself to. I was SMS administrator at an insurance company and tried testing it out (one server, 2 clients). It was physically connected to the rest of the network, but I denied it access to the production network by setting up a completely different subnet and not adding a route. Since SMS 1.2 couldn't find machines sometimes in its OWN subnet, I assumed I was safe. I turned on discovery (and *only* discovery) and let it run overnight. When I returned the next morning, users were complaining of crashes and odd messages. Not only had SMS 2 managed to find the production network (by trying every combination of IP addresses and thus circumventing the router) and install itself onto 700-odd machines, the client was unstable and was causing many of them to crash. Frantically I tried to undo what I had done. Chapter 13 or so of the Big Green SMS Beta Book titled "uninstalling clients" read simply: "this feature not yet implemented". So it was back to SMS 1.2. I wrote a very ugly script designed to clean out the registry (5000+ entries) and remove all the files, but like usual most clients had problems (like 2.0-induced crashes) that prevented the script from running. I ended up having to repair 300+ workstations by hand.
The army may not fire on it's "own people" (Kent State), but would they fire on "gangsters", "child molesters", "communists", or other undesireables that happen to be born in the US?
"Today men, we are going to machine gun an army of preverts in the Oregon state capitol! They are engaged in all kinds of ungodly preversions in there. Do not be fooled that they look like college students, Universities are just hotbeds of preverted activity."
Stop and think: if a president wants something that the Constitution doesn't allow, can he just write an executive order to set the constitution aside? Do you think abortion would have stayed legal throughout the Regan era if that trick would work?
The abortion issue is a convenient stick with which to beat the american public. No president really wants it out of the headlines. In cases where the issue really is very important to the administration/congress, you'll simply see the laws/constitution not enforced and not talked about. Cases in point are the repeated violations of both the War Powers Act and the Wagner Act by both parties.
If martial law was declared for real in the US it will not be called martial law. It will be "peacekeeping" or "disaster relief" troops posted in the cities. TV reports will show them handing out chocolate bars to little children.
The incident the poster was referring to is factual. This is what happened to Huey Newton (or was it Fred Hampton?) of the Black Panthers. They're both dead, assassinated Franco-style by the US government.
Now, it's stupid to believe that the govt. is going to declare martial law simply because there is an opportunity, but its equally moronic to think it "just can't happen" because you believe the US is somehow different from every other society that came before it.
I'll be the first to respond that it isn't theoretically feasable due to the GPL. However, the GPL is like the US constitution -- useless unless enforced.
You *could* try rpm -Uvh some-redhat-package.1386(who are we kidding?).rpm --nodeps. That sometimes works, but it's no substitute for across-the-board support for Linux in general.
So now what? Does that mean rpm-only, or that these vendors won't support any system without a fedora at all? Does it matter to these people at all that Debian et al support rpm?
What's next? Redhat trying to embrace extend and exterminate competing standards? (Notice I said *try*)
This looks like it's the same "Merlin" that was about to be released in about 1985 or so. It can do everything CNN says, but the noise level is so outrageous as to be dangerous. (80 db or so? I forget)
That, and it looks like a safety and environmental catastrophe in the making. I'll still take the bus.
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"It is by will alone I set my God in motion" -- Mentat SqueezeTruck
As to the flood, the Chinese have had a single contiguous history that covers the time the flood would have taken place. They strangely don't seem to mention it.
What I would like to see is evidence that some other civilization besides that of the Hebrews noticed when Joshua stopped the sun in the sky for an entire day.
Contrast this discussion to what you likely would have had here a year ago. I again have hope for the future of this society.
My $.02:
Governments, social democratic,libertarian or otherwise work best when they either: a) respond to the needs of the people, or b) butt out completely.
Corporations are fine so long as they conform to the strictures of the charters under which they were originally organized. Namely, that they "contribute to the common good".
In the US currently we have corporations who have stepped WAY beyond their charters, and are completely unaccountable to the public even when they, say, kill 10,000 people in India. We also have a screwy law that says these fictional legal entities are actually persons with respect to contributing large sums of money to political candidates/parties.
Result: the party that can suck up the most corporate dough ends up getting elected.
So is the fact that neither sector gives a flying fsck about the american people a) the fault of the politicians for looking out for their own survival, or is it b) the fault of the corporations for looking out for theirs?
I would say c). Its the fault of the american people for staying silent and or ignorant all this time, and that we today finally set about taking our rightful power back.
Sure, that's why all the geeks *I* know (including myself) marry diminutive subserviant housewife types. Can't let the missus have more of a social life than me! Japanese/Filipinas fit this bill nicely.
Don't get me wrong, in most the areas I'm interesting in dealing with, (big things), I am rabidly self reliant. When it comes to day-to-day maintenance, I'm as helpless as a 3-day-old child.
I have low self esteem. I consider y'all to be my family! Really!
I'm afraid poster #1 is correct. (Most of) the american underclass has a middle-class lifestyle because the rest of the planet constitutes the *real* american underclass. Your happy meal toys are made by girls/women in Vietnam for a whopping $.06 an hour. That won't even buy them their lunch for the day. Your $120.00 Nike shoes also are all made offshore, mostly in Indonesia with a $5.00 total production cost. The same shoe would cost quadruple to make in the US. More if the workers were paid fairly. How do you afford your middle-class lifestyle?
On the other hand, I love it when I hand it to people and they turn it over and over trying to figure out how I got the music in there.
There's no law (yet) that says all portable mp3 players have to bow to the RIAA. Get the PMP300 while it's legal and open, and look elsewhere for your next purchase. If the DVD region coding standard is any indication, vendors will probably make any anti-piracy system easy to bypass anyhow.
USA Beats the Soviet Union by Being More Soviet Than the Soviets. Film at 11.
Yes, the PC belongs to your company (usually), but it gives IS power to monitor more than just the PC's maintenance and welfare. It can read your email as you write it, and automatically extract filter and collate any document on your system. I wrote a SMS batch that scanned all txt and word documents for the word "handcuffs", and returned a copy of the document to the server with the PC owner's name attached. (to show my boss it could be done).
There is also the issue that SMS has a tendency to install itself to the PC's of employees who dial in from home and run all administrative jobs on it as if it were corporate property. The SMS client(s) run as a domain administrator, so by logging in to the corporate domain you automatically give up all ability to stop SMS from doing its thing, short of powering off or disconnecting.
This happens, BTW. Not hypothetical.
I was one of these IS people. Of COURSE it's a tool of control.
I wouldn't be too concerned though. SMS collects a lot of information, but unless the admin knows *exactly* what he's looking for he won't find it. SMS is very difficult to administer well, it breaks frequently, it is easy to confuse, and it is VERY slow.
If you want to hide something from SMS, get partition magic and change your partitioning slightly from week to week. Eventually SMS will fill up it's MS-SQL (slogan: "just like daddy's") database with 100-some entries on your machine and its contents and cease to be useful.
Wow! Looks like you have 362 copies of Netscape installed!
SMS 2.0 is not only a virus, it's a hellaciously virulent one. Like HP openview it does automatic network discovery, but unlike openview it uses the map it generates as the default list of clients that it will automatically install itself to.
I was SMS administrator at an insurance company and tried testing it out (one server, 2 clients). It was physically connected to the rest of the network, but I denied it access to the production network by setting up a completely different subnet and not adding a route. Since SMS 1.2 couldn't find machines sometimes in its OWN subnet, I assumed I was safe. I turned on discovery (and *only* discovery) and let it run overnight. When I returned the next morning, users were complaining of crashes and odd messages. Not only had SMS 2 managed to find the production network (by trying every combination of IP addresses and thus circumventing the router) and install itself onto 700-odd machines, the client was unstable and was causing many of them to crash.
Frantically I tried to undo what I had done. Chapter 13 or so of the Big Green SMS Beta Book titled "uninstalling clients" read simply: "this feature not yet implemented".
So it was back to SMS 1.2. I wrote a very ugly script designed to clean out the registry (5000+ entries) and remove all the files, but like usual most clients had problems (like 2.0-induced crashes) that prevented the script from running. I ended up having to repair 300+ workstations by hand.
Some of them are still broken actually...
The army may not fire on it's "own people" (Kent State), but would they fire on "gangsters", "child molesters", "communists", or other undesireables that happen to be born in the US?
"Today men, we are going to machine gun an army of preverts in the Oregon state capitol! They are engaged in all kinds of ungodly preversions in there. Do not be fooled that they look like college students, Universities are just hotbeds of preverted activity."
Stop and think: if a president wants something that the Constitution doesn't allow, can he just write an executive order to set the constitution aside? Do you think abortion would have stayed legal throughout the Regan era if that trick would work?
The abortion issue is a convenient stick with which to beat the american public. No president really wants it out of the headlines. In cases where the issue really is very important to the administration/congress, you'll simply see the laws/constitution not enforced and not talked about.
Cases in point are the repeated violations of both the War Powers Act and the Wagner Act by both parties.
If martial law was declared for real in the US it will not be called martial law. It will be "peacekeeping" or "disaster relief" troops posted in the cities. TV reports will show them handing out chocolate bars to little children.
Anyone recall the Polaroid and KIA commercials a while ago dealing with Y2K? Ever wonder why you don't see them anymore?
The American Bankers Association threatened both companies with both lawsuits and denial of loans. The ads got pulled.
So if there's no possibility of trouble, why is the ABA kicking so much ass to prevent trouble?
The incident the poster was referring to is factual. This is what happened to Huey Newton (or was it Fred Hampton?) of the Black Panthers. They're both dead, assassinated Franco-style by the US government.
Now, it's stupid to believe that the govt. is going to declare martial law simply because there is an opportunity, but its equally moronic to think it "just can't happen" because you believe the US is somehow different from every other society that came before it.
People are sane.
Bad things don't happen in real life.
Bad things that do happen are over with quickly, and only the bad guys get hurt.
So stop worrying and treat yourself to a nice latte at one of your many local Starbucks.
Not to nit-pick, but VA is a system vendor -- not a linux contributor.
This story has nothing to do with Linux. Might I suggest VA have their own section?
file location issues can be fixed in the worst case with a symlink, can't they?
Oh super. So we'll end up with a symlink-riddled filesystem like latter versions of Solaris.
I'll be the first to respond that it isn't theoretically feasable due to the GPL. However, the GPL is like the US constitution -- useless unless enforced.
You *could* try rpm -Uvh some-redhat-package.1386(who are we kidding?).rpm --nodeps.
That sometimes works, but it's no substitute for across-the-board support for Linux in general.
You think it's bad now, wait till REd Hat IPO's.
Talk about a severe conflict of interest.
And everyone said it couldn't ever happen.
So now what? Does that mean rpm-only, or that these vendors won't support any system without a fedora at all? Does it matter to these people at all that Debian et al support rpm?
What's next? Redhat trying to embrace extend and exterminate competing standards? (Notice I said *try*)
I especially like the article that got -1 (flamebait) but baited people to write 2 or 3 2 (informative) articles.
I like the parenthetical reasons, but the rating system still needs work.
This looks like it's the same "Merlin" that was about to be released in about 1985 or so. It can do everything CNN says, but the noise level is so outrageous as to be dangerous. (80 db or so? I forget)
That, and it looks like a safety and environmental catastrophe in the making. I'll still take the bus.