it was probably one of the buggiest installs i ever used! it also sucked that crucial header files and libraries weren't included in the default install!
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
i wonder if he's a drunk as well. i wouldn't doubt it. is he pissed because he isn't as recognized for creating ethernet as he thinks he should be? what has he done lately anyway??
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
I *did* try to use C++ builder, "try" being the operative word. I still haven't figured out what the point is..or for that matter, how to compile a simple program. Mind, I haven't tried particularly hard since I stopped using Windows soon after I bought it (waste of $100, but anyway..)
this has been a major annoyance to me lately. i dont know when borland started doing this but they have gotten into the nasty habit of trying to force their project structure down your throat. the reason i loved borland products before is that i could whip up and debug plain code in seconds. with jbuilder you have to make a project and you can't uninclude.java (during compilation) from the project if they are in the same directory as your project. with delphi, the ability to write a from scratch console apps is buried. i still love delphi but that pisses me off. they were alot better when they gave the programmer some credit.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
true but there are people that don't want to be responsible for their own backups. like the writer who submitted the post. he's a writer not a computer guy. anyway, i never thought about it this way until scott mcnealy said something that rang true. he said that keeping money on your hard drive or anywhere locally is like stuffing money under your mattress. we put money in banks because we know that our money is safe and secure there. if your hard drive crashes or you walk through an airline xray with your laptop or your house burns down, you're shit out of luck. i may get a feeling of security with a local backup but i still think remote storage is safer.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
most likely services like xdrive will be used for storage we want to keep. even now this is safer than keeping it on your local drive because they handle all the backup and if your local drive crashes your S.O.L..
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
I've have used Visual Cafe for > 2 years, and Visual Cafe doesn't use wraper classes at all. It does have some of it's own classes, but they add functionality that is missing in java.awt and are not wrappers. And these classes are pure java. If you add them to your classpath, you can use then on any platform, with any IDE/JVM.
yeah but you don't want to have to copy the whole symantec class set... i suppose you could make a custom jar with all the necessary pieces though.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
MS is not the only company that is polluting Java or making it difficult to write code on one platform and deploy it on another... many of the IDE's that I've seen do the same thing. The auto-generated code makes use of classes that "wrap" the base Java stuff, resulting in source code that is only useable by the original IDE. Visual Cafe seems to be one of the worst offenders. A coworker of mine uses VC and she is constantly having problems with the autogenerated code
thank you! that's why i gave up on ides all together and went text editor + jikes. i thought borland's would be more sensible but they go a step further by forcing you to use their project files in order to compile. you can't just open a.java file and compile it. it's also annoying that jbuilder takes all of the files in the directory and tries to compile them regardless of whether they're in your project.
and forget about netbeans, that one is so restrictive with your code (as is visual cafe to a lesser extent) as to make it unusable. well enough venting for me too.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
No, there's no conspiracy here, it's just the sheer greed of a man who's already got sh*tloads of money and wants more, more, more...
the fact that shit movie was released shows how much contempt lucas has for his fans. that movie was pathetic. i can't believe i waited 20 years to see that shit! it's even more insulting that you can't even find the original versions without that annoying stupid eyecandy!!! what self-indulgent arrogant ass he is! personally, i don't see what the fuss is over this. this movie should be buried along with all the kiddie crap he ruined the other movies with.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
I, personally, have no problems with it being loaded on top of DOS.
actually... dos gets kicked out before novell gets started. but i agree with the fact that you can change a driver and replace a driver through dos. one of my biggest pet peeves with windows nt is that there is no command line accessible system configuration. if a driver gets caput and you can't get into the system, you have to use the rescue disk and still its 20 minutes until you see the light of day... if you do see it that is.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
IT'S THE RECORD COMPANIES' FAULT!!!!
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i'm working on an essay about this that talks about the value point of software and the convenience point of piracy. basically the idea is "is it worth the effort for me to illegally copy this or is there an intrinsic value for buying it legitimately".
in most of the software i buy, the value point exceeds the convenience point. sometimes i need the associated documentation, or sometimes i need to be assured that i can get support, or it's simply not popular enough for it to be available in the pirate channels. so buying it in these cases makes more sense.
the same thing goes for music. right now cds are overpriced and it's very easy to download mp3s so if there is a song i like by an artist i'm not a fan of, i download the mp3 because the convenience point far exceeds the value point. now if a new cd comes out by an artist that i'm a fan of (nine inch nails for example) i will be the first in line to buy it because i don't just want to hear it on my computer, i want to hear it in my car, in the shower, in my room, etc.. so i'm paying for the value of being able to carry it into all the places i have a cd player. the value point exceeds the convenience point.
most fans are like this. even though i have mp3, i still buy cds. also, buying the artist's record legitimatizes the fact that you are a "true fan" of the artist. that may sound corny, but it's true.
i don't buy cds of artists i'm not a fan of because i've bought too many cds where i liked a song i heard but the rest of the album was shit. it's funny how the riaa talks about theft when i can't get a refund for this shoddy product. i'm sure lots of other people have experienced this and have a sour taste in their mouths from buying cds. like i said, it's the fault of the record companies. record companies should have learned a long time ago how to make money off of artists' existing fan bases. it's called opportunity selling which these companies are extremely bad at. instead they dump bands with extremely loyal fan bases to look for the next ricky martin or britney spears so they don't have to do any work. the writing is on the wall and these companies are going to go down in flames because of their resistance to change. may they burn in hell!
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
Re:This is sad, but I think we all saw it coming
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The music which has the best chance of dying to due to online distribution is inide music, since the margins for it are absolutely diminutive, and online distribution will drive prices even lower. The reason I have a vested interest in trying to stop online piracy of music is because indie music is by far my interest and it makes me sick to see my favorite indie artists not get paid the money they deserve.
you make the mistaken assumption that indie musicians make alot of money from records. they don't. not even platinum records make alot of money. especially if the record is a debut. after all is said an done on a platinum debut the net is about $40,000. that is split across the past. the money isn't in the music, it's in the shows and merchandising. there is no way you can protect recordings that are so easily duplicatable.
i am an independent musician as well so you can't say i don't know what i'm talking about.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
Okay, everyone laugh at 20-something Bill Gates. Ready, on three. One, two, three. HA HA HA.
or better yet, why don't we compare what he was saying to what bill joy (co-founder of sun microsystems) was doing with berkeley unix! you can read about it in the book open sources.
bill gates cared nothing for the technology and i think that is what is the most offensive about him. sure it's great to make money but don't lie and say that distributing source code presents no money making opportunity. bill just wanted to make money his way and he wasn't being up front about that. it's a good thing that now people are realizing that open source makes sense. it always has that's why we're still using some of the stuff that joy helped create over 20 years ago!
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
you listen to him, it sounds like he thinks he's the only one with the ability to write software! "if you can't make money from software, it won't be created"... as if his business model was the only one that could work. other people would have found other ways to make money even if the software was distributed freely. but if bill gates can't make money, i guess no one is making money!
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
No. On the other hand, some of us don't subscribe to the notion that selling a proprietary product is akin to extortion and theft.
Personally, I feel like ESR - I want to use software that doesn't suck. Unlike ESR, I believe that 'lack of suckiness' isn't an exclusive property of the open source movement - that there exists proprietary software which doesn't suck.
it's funny that you mention esr in your post. i saw him speak a few weeks ago and he made the point that most software developers that make a living from programming aren't doing it for something that becomes a resalable product. i.e. most are writing for internal systems. so the fact that we have a free os doesn't harm us at all. by your theory, linux should be a piece of shit because there's no money to be made doing it. sounds just like the played out anti-linux hype to me! why does linux exist when freebsd and openbsd were around before it??? can windows really get any worse??? windows is probably going to improve because all of these free operating systems are lighting a fire under its ass. this is a GREAT thing (tm)!
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
He's flesh and blood just like the rest of us, trying to do good in the hyper-competitive, vicious world we have created for ourselves.
yadda, yadda
How many of you have even considered the possibility that Gates has regrets?
if he did i think he would have figured that out about $50 billion ago!
(Before you start yelling at me that he made himself unpopular, I suggest you take a good look at Slashdot's Gates/Borg icon and ask yourself who really makes demons of men)
it's his reputation that produced that icon not the reverse. by your argument, he saw the slashdot icon and decided on that day to become a prick. come on!
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
OLE springs to mind. Linking a spreadsheet object to a word object and having both display in one application window was, I think, a true innovation at the time.
too bad opendoc was developed by apple as well!
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
his argument is based on a very wrong premise. and that premise is that aol has the most of the *INTERNET* "market". this is far from the truth. while aol has the most concentrated userbase, aol users are not the majority on the internet. until that happens aol is not a threat. by the way, at&t's market share in cable is bigger as well.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
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it was probably one of the buggiest installs i ever used! it also sucked that crucial header files and libraries weren't included in the default install!
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
at least stallman i can respect for his integrity and he's more right than metcalfe!
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
i wonder if he's a drunk as well. i wouldn't doubt it. is he pissed because he isn't as recognized for creating ethernet as he thinks he should be? what has he done lately anyway??
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
this has been a major annoyance to me lately. i dont know when borland started doing this but they have gotten into the nasty habit of trying to force their project structure down your throat. the reason i loved borland products before is that i could whip up and debug plain code in seconds. with jbuilder you have to make a project and you can't uninclude .java (during compilation) from the project if they are in the same directory as your project. with delphi, the ability to write a from scratch console apps is buried. i still love delphi but that pisses me off. they were alot better when they gave the programmer some credit.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
true but there are people that don't want to be responsible for their own backups. like the writer who submitted the post. he's a writer not a computer guy. anyway, i never thought about it this way until scott mcnealy said something that rang true. he said that keeping money on your hard drive or anywhere locally is like stuffing money under your mattress. we put money in banks because we know that our money is safe and secure there. if your hard drive crashes or you walk through an airline xray with your laptop or your house burns down, you're shit out of luck. i may get a feeling of security with a local backup but i still think remote storage is safer.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
most likely services like xdrive will be used for storage we want to keep. even now this is safer than keeping it on your local drive because they handle all the backup and if your local drive crashes your S.O.L..
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
Run a server on one of the common ports, say, 80, and reroute requests to the real Napster servers.
i was thinking the same thing... this is possible isn't it?
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
yeah but you don't want to have to copy the whole symantec class set... i suppose you could make a custom jar with all the necessary pieces though.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
thank you! that's why i gave up on ides all together and went text editor + jikes. i thought borland's would be more sensible but they go a step further by forcing you to use their project files in order to compile. you can't just open a .java file and compile it. it's also annoying that jbuilder takes all of the files in the directory and tries to compile them regardless of whether they're in your project.
and forget about netbeans, that one is so restrictive with your code (as is visual cafe to a lesser extent) as to make it unusable. well enough venting for me too.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
the fact that shit movie was released shows how much contempt lucas has for his fans. that movie was pathetic. i can't believe i waited 20 years to see that shit! it's even more insulting that you can't even find the original versions without that annoying stupid eyecandy!!! what self-indulgent arrogant ass he is! personally, i don't see what the fuss is over this. this movie should be buried along with all the kiddie crap he ruined the other movies with.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
hey, nimrod, what market does sun have 90% market share in??
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
actually... dos gets kicked out before novell gets started. but i agree with the fact that you can change a driver and replace a driver through dos. one of my biggest pet peeves with windows nt is that there is no command line accessible system configuration. if a driver gets caput and you can't get into the system, you have to use the rescue disk and still its 20 minutes until you see the light of day... if you do see it that is.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
in most of the software i buy, the value point exceeds the convenience point. sometimes i need the associated documentation, or sometimes i need to be assured that i can get support, or it's simply not popular enough for it to be available in the pirate channels. so buying it in these cases makes more sense.
the same thing goes for music. right now cds are overpriced and it's very easy to download mp3s so if there is a song i like by an artist i'm not a fan of, i download the mp3 because the convenience point far exceeds the value point. now if a new cd comes out by an artist that i'm a fan of (nine inch nails for example) i will be the first in line to buy it because i don't just want to hear it on my computer, i want to hear it in my car, in the shower, in my room, etc.. so i'm paying for the value of being able to carry it into all the places i have a cd player. the value point exceeds the convenience point.
most fans are like this. even though i have mp3, i still buy cds. also, buying the artist's record legitimatizes the fact that you are a "true fan" of the artist. that may sound corny, but it's true.
i don't buy cds of artists i'm not a fan of because i've bought too many cds where i liked a song i heard but the rest of the album was shit. it's funny how the riaa talks about theft when i can't get a refund for this shoddy product. i'm sure lots of other people have experienced this and have a sour taste in their mouths from buying cds. like i said, it's the fault of the record companies. record companies should have learned a long time ago how to make money off of artists' existing fan bases. it's called opportunity selling which these companies are extremely bad at. instead they dump bands with extremely loyal fan bases to look for the next ricky martin or britney spears so they don't have to do any work. the writing is on the wall and these companies are going to go down in flames because of their resistance to change. may they burn in hell!
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
you make the mistaken assumption that indie musicians make alot of money from records. they don't. not even platinum records make alot of money. especially if the record is a debut. after all is said an done on a platinum debut the net is about $40,000. that is split across the past. the money isn't in the music, it's in the shows and merchandising. there is no way you can protect recordings that are so easily duplicatable.
i am an independent musician as well so you can't say i don't know what i'm talking about.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
or better yet, why don't we compare what he was saying to what bill joy (co-founder of sun microsystems) was doing with berkeley unix! you can read about it in the book open sources.
bill gates cared nothing for the technology and i think that is what is the most offensive about him. sure it's great to make money but don't lie and say that distributing source code presents no money making opportunity. bill just wanted to make money his way and he wasn't being up front about that. it's a good thing that now people are realizing that open source makes sense. it always has that's why we're still using some of the stuff that joy helped create over 20 years ago!
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
you listen to him, it sounds like he thinks he's the only one with the ability to write software! "if you can't make money from software, it won't be created"... as if his business model was the only one that could work. other people would have found other ways to make money even if the software was distributed freely. but if bill gates can't make money, i guess no one is making money!
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
Personally, I feel like ESR - I want to use software that doesn't suck. Unlike ESR, I believe that 'lack of suckiness' isn't an exclusive property of the open source movement - that there exists proprietary software which doesn't suck.
it's funny that you mention esr in your post. i saw him speak a few weeks ago and he made the point that most software developers that make a living from programming aren't doing it for something that becomes a resalable product. i.e. most are writing for internal systems. so the fact that we have a free os doesn't harm us at all. by your theory, linux should be a piece of shit because there's no money to be made doing it. sounds just like the played out anti-linux hype to me! why does linux exist when freebsd and openbsd were around before it??? can windows really get any worse??? windows is probably going to improve because all of these free operating systems are lighting a fire under its ass. this is a GREAT thing (tm)!
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
you do know this plan was scrapped right?? there's still an upgrade to 98 forthcoming and it aint windows 2000!
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
he asked for an innovation... it's subsequent dumping and theft was not the question.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
oh bullshit!
He's flesh and blood just like the rest of us, trying to do good in the hyper-competitive, vicious world we have created for ourselves.
yadda, yadda
How many of you have even considered the possibility that Gates has regrets?
if he did i think he would have figured that out about $50 billion ago!
(Before you start yelling at me that he made himself unpopular, I suggest you take a good look at Slashdot's Gates/Borg icon and ask yourself who really makes demons of men)
it's his reputation that produced that icon not the reverse. by your argument, he saw the slashdot icon and decided on that day to become a prick. come on!
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
too bad opendoc was developed by apple as well!
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
his argument is based on a very wrong premise. and that premise is that aol has the most of the *INTERNET* "market". this is far from the truth. while aol has the most concentrated userbase, aol users are not the majority on the internet. until that happens aol is not a threat. by the way, at&t's market share in cable is bigger as well.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
everybody knows it already! i can name 100 sites not on the list anymore.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
gcc did fork, remember egcs? but it is a perfect example for stallman's argument. they eventually merged back together.
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."
if i remember correctly, delphi 3.0 was out way before vb 5.0. i don't think your inside information is accurate!
"The lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."