Per your Schedule 14A, Microsoft owns 4,217,606 (11.9%) shares in The Santa Cruz Operation. This makes Microsoft one of the two largest shareholders in SCO.
How has SCO handled the investment of Microsoft, while at the same time offering a competitor to Microsoft. In addition, does the investment of Microsoft cause problems when dealing with the Open Source Community. Specifically, does the Open Source Community have reservations dealing with SCO because of their connections with Microsoft.
The best thing to do with a honeypot is to have it set up behind your firewall. If someone breaks through your firewall and scans your internal network, they will be attracted to your honeypot first. This will probably give you enough time to see the intrusion taking place and take appropriate measures. Check out the Deception Toolkit for a decent program to handle the honeypot.
Before you even begin to work on setting up a honeypot, you should first secure your network as well as you can. The honeypot should only be used as a second(or third) line of defense.
It is nice that OpenBSD is great and wonderful. However, AFAIK, OpenBSD doesn't have C2 compliant auditing available for it either. I love people who give an answer before reading the question.
Whether or not the L2 cache runs at clock speed or not does not matter if a processor can be overclocked. The reason the Celerons overclocked so well was because they had so little L2 cache. L2 cache is a pain to overclock, so the less a chip has, the easier it is to overclock. However, overclocking a chip with on-die L2 is more helpful because of the speed-up of cache.
We railed against Microsoft when they published the Mindcraft results. Now, Novell sponsers a study that shows their main money winner is incredibly better than its new competitor. I think the grain of salt we need to take this with is as big as Utah.
This doesn't mean that I don't believe that NDS is faster and more reliable than Active Directory. My gut feeling would lean that direction. But I would like to see real benchmarks from an unbiased company.
2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and distribute such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1 above, provided that you also meet all of these conditions:
a) You must cause the modified files to carry prominent notices stating that you changed the files and the date of any change.
b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License.
c) If the modified program normally reads commands interactively when run, you must cause it, when started running for such interactive use in the most ordinary way, to print or display an announcement including an appropriate copyright notice and a notice that there is no warranty (or else, saying that you provide a warranty) and that users may redistribute the program under these conditions, and telling the user how to view a copy of this License. (Exception: if the Program itself is interactive but does not normally print such an announcement, your work based on the Program is not required to print an announcement.)
These requirements apply to the modified work as a whole. If identifiable sections of that work are not derived from the Program, and can be reasonably considered independent and separate works in themselves, then this License, and its terms, do not apply to those sections when you distribute them as separate works. But when you distribute the same sections as part of a whole which is a work based on the Program, the distribution of the whole must be on the terms of this License, whose permissions for other licensees extend to the entire whole, and thus to each and every part regardless of who wrote it.
Section 2B specifically says if you modify a GPL program, than you must make your modifications available to all third parties. That means if they modify the kernel, then they have to give all of their modifications back.
Unfortunately, no one here knows how their product works, so we cannot say what parts of Linux it might modify.
Being a techie and being a lawyer are not two mutually exlusive clubs. The main problem is that almost all techie lawyers become patent lawyers. While there is a need for good patent lawyers(to defend against all these crappy patents), there is also a need for lawyers who can handle technical issues.
Personally, I am applying to law school right now so that I can do something within technology law. While I will probably take the patent bar exam, I do not want to be a patent lawyer. Hopefully I can work on the corporate side with some of these new tech. companies.
I also think that we need to do what we can about getting a group together to provide legal help and advice to open source programmers. It would probably need to be done on a pro bono basis. I have heard many people say this, but I don't think any action has been taken on it. If you are interested in working on such a group give me an email. Also, if you are interested in becoming a lawyer and want some advice on the application process feel free to send me some mail.
However, they had been running Netscape Enterprise Server on Digital Unix. Netscape Enterprise server is very good about acting the same between NT and Unix. I have not had as good of luck with apache on NT.
As someone who embarking on the journey to become a patent lawyer, let me explain exactly what it takes to practice patent law.
There are two types of people who can handle patent work. There are patent agents and patent lawyers. To qualify as a patent agent, you must pass the Patent Bar Exam. A patent agent can perform all of the duties related to patent work except for litigation before a court. Patent lawyers have passed both the Patent Bar Exam and a State Bar Exam. Patent lawyers may litigate patent cases before the Federal courts.
The complications arise in the qualifications to take each of the Bar Exams. For almost all State Bar Exams you must have earned a JD or LLM from an accredited law school. To take the Patent Bar Exam, you must pass one of three qualifications. 1) Earned a BS in Engineering or a hard science(chemistry, biology, physics). Computer Science was recently added. 2) Have take 30 hours in chemistry, 30 hours in physics, of 40 hours in Engineering/chemistry/physics courses. 3) Be a certified Professional Engineer.
The patent bar exam is an open-book multiple choice test that has two 3 hour sections. It covers the rules and procedures of the Patent Office. The normal rate of passage is about 35%.
You two need to get over yourselves. While I respect both of you, and I appreciate the work that you both do for the Open Source community, petty bickering over who flamed who first does not help. I am not saying that one of you is correct and the other is not. Personally, I don't care.
Any time there is a democratic group, there will always be factions who have different opinions. Each one will acuse the other of doing the wrong thing. The problem is that people on the Internet will make harsher, ruder comments than people would make face to face. However, the Internet is much more public than any personal confrontations.
We do need all opinions available. We need people who can deal with the PHB's and get them comfortable with Open Source. We need everyone we can get.
The problem is the number of possible moves in chess is enormous. The general thinking is that there are more moves possible in a game of chess than there are particles in the universe. Obviously that statement is a bit ahrd to quantify, but we can easily deduce that it will be a while until a chess program can logically find all possible solutions. Deep Blue could work out all of the moves to about 5 moves deep once in the endgame.
Checkers, however, does not suffer from this problem. That is why it is possible to create an unbeatable checkers program.
A very interesting version of the game that I saw was one where your opponent couldn't see what pieces were what. There was no check, you won when you captured the king. You could place the pieces in any order in your initial two rows. It really seemed like a combination of chess and Stratego.
As an aside to this: Nerd: an unstylish, unattractive, or socially inept person; especially : one slavishly devoted to intellectual or academic pursuits
Geek (2): a person often of an intellectual bent who is disapproved of
--Webster Dictionary
For some reason I think that this fits into the intellectual category considering the quality of his films.
Personally, George C. Scott holds a special place in my heart because he is in two of my favorite movies of all time: Dr. Stangelove and Patton. While he was definately a character actor, I think that George C. Scott plays the powerful person who has a fatal weakness like no other. He had the ability to present a character that could otherwise be dissmissed as a typical arrogant bastard with a skill that I think is still unmatched.
I have been reading past interviews with him this morning and it is very refreshing to see how humble he was. Check out here for a very good bit on his life. It was done before he died.
No proof there. Everyone knows that Paul Allen invested in Transmeta. That doesn't mean that there is Microsoft involvement. All it means is that someone who owns Microsoft stock(granted quite a bit of MS stock) helped fund the company.
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Just to let you know, IBM Thinkpad 355's do not have MWave modems/soundcards. The first IBM Laptops that had MWave modems were the 755CE/CSE/CD models. The 355 does not have an integrated sound card at all. The 750/755C/CS have a cheap business sound card installed in them(that is not even SoundBlaster compatible).
While I do agree with some of the points in this article, I think that the author really needs some help with his arguements.
BSD is Too Fragmented His arguement boils down to: BSD: 4 versions Linux: 100 distributions
Do you notice the difference? Linux has different distributions, not different versions. There are two main problems that fragmentation can cause. 1) Repatative work is done. 2) Incompatabilities. Linux definately has the problem with #2 as per his example, but it doesn't have the problem of #1 as BSD does. There is only one kernel, all of the rest is package management.
Unrepentant Hypocrisy His arguement: People say that BSD should stop complaining about the GPL while using a lot of software that is GPLed. But only 8% of tools and 15% of libs are GPLed.
Notice however, the most important things run under FreeBSD are GPLed: gcc, Apache, Samba, etc.
FreeBSD is an Old Boy's Network and Too Closed Two points here: yes, FreeBSD is slow about moving things into distributions until they are sure that the software entering the distribution is stable and peachy keen. Linux distributions are usually a little more cutting edge. Most distributors don't want the people to have to hop on the web and download the latest version of things even though they just bought a distrib. of Linux the day before. Choose which mindset you will.
He then goes on to attack the one complaint that most people have against BSD. That its users act mightier than thou. The tone he uses in the article doesn't help his cause much. I think that if BSD wants to take off they really need to work on this problem. While he is right in saying it does happen no matter what OS you deal with, BSD has the repuatation that it happens much more with it. Whether this reputation is unfounded or not doesn't matter. People on BSD mailing lists and the BSD users need to act nicer than anyone else around if they are going to get over their rep.
FreeBSD is a Linux Clone I hope everyone here realizes that they were developed separately. Granted they use many of the same programs, but the app does not an OS make(unless you are M$).
There are no apps for FreeBSD Gee, it is nice to see a little FUD about Linux at the end of this section. I am glad that he feels the need to attack Linux at every turn.
FreeBSD is a Dead End You never know.
FreeBSD Should GPL Itself He is right. They can't. Them the brakes.
FreeBSD Users are Simply Jealous of the Success of Linux Lets see, many wonder why a new user would try Linux as opposed to FreeBSD. I guess that he hasn't seen a newbie try to install FreeBSD before. The reason that RedHat has done so well as opposed to Slackware is all in the installation. The only current software harder to install than FreeBSD is OpenBSD.
Once again I feel that his FUD against Linux is a bit aggrevating. He says without doubt that BSD is technically superior to Linux. I know of a lot of people who would take issue with that.
Conclusion BSD has a different way of approaching things than Linux does. If you are needing to run a box where you are considering one of the other, evaluate them both and pick the one that fits best.
I think that the main conclusion should be that everyone needs to chill out a bit. We shouldn't be fighting against each other. Both FreeBSD and Linux are fine operating systems with devout user groups. They should try to work together and advance their software rather than biting each others heads off because of percieved differences.
I once worked on a political campaign where the incumbant paid off one of the canidates in the other party to run a negative campaign against the incumbants main compentitor. Well, I am getting the same sort of feeling here.
Check out this nice little bit from SCO's SEC Filings in February.
Common Stock Approximate Five Percent Shareholders, Directors Beneficially Percentage and Certain Executive Officers Owned Owned(1) ------------------------------------ ------------ -----------
Novell, Inc.......................................... 4,741,750 13.8% Corporate Headquarters 122 East 1700 South Provo, Utah 84606 Microsoft Corporation................................. 4,217,606 12.3% One Microsoft Way Redmond, Washington 98052-6399 Douglas L. Michels(2)................................. 4,028,400 11.7% c/o The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. 400 Encinal Street Santa Cruz, California 95061-1900 Lawrence Michels(3)................................... 3,149,992 9.2% 30376 Snowbird Lane Evergreen, Colorado 80439
Now am I the only one who thinks that Novell and Microsoft might not mind the president of SCO slamming Linux. It is just a thought. But if I was a major shareholder in SCO, I don't think I would like Microsoft dumping $25 million worth of shares.
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Per your Schedule 14A, Microsoft owns 4,217,606 (11.9%) shares in The Santa Cruz Operation. This makes Microsoft one of the two largest shareholders in SCO.
How has SCO handled the investment of Microsoft, while at the same time offering a competitor to Microsoft. In addition, does the investment of Microsoft cause problems when dealing with the Open Source Community. Specifically, does the Open Source Community have reservations dealing with SCO because of their connections with Microsoft.
The best thing to do with a honeypot is to have it set up behind your firewall. If someone breaks through your firewall and scans your internal network, they will be attracted to your honeypot first. This will probably give you enough time to see the intrusion taking place and take appropriate measures. Check out the Deception Toolkit for a decent program to handle the honeypot.
Before you even begin to work on setting up a honeypot, you should first secure your network as well as you can. The honeypot should only be used as a second(or third) line of defense.
It is nice that OpenBSD is great and wonderful. However, AFAIK, OpenBSD doesn't have C2 compliant auditing available for it either. I love people who give an answer before reading the question.
Whether or not the L2 cache runs at clock speed or not does not matter if a processor can be overclocked. The reason the Celerons overclocked so well was because they had so little L2 cache. L2 cache is a pain to overclock, so the less a chip has, the easier it is to overclock. However, overclocking a chip with on-die L2 is more helpful because of the speed-up of cache.
We railed against Microsoft when they published the Mindcraft results. Now, Novell sponsers a study that shows their main money winner is incredibly better than its new competitor. I think the grain of salt we need to take this with is as big as Utah.
This doesn't mean that I don't believe that NDS is faster and more reliable than Active Directory. My gut feeling would lean that direction. But I would like to see real benchmarks from an unbiased company.
That is not how I read the GPL. Section 2:
2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and distribute such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1 above, provided that you also meet all of these conditions:
a) You must cause the modified files to carry prominent notices stating that you changed the files and the date of any change.
b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License.
c) If the modified program normally reads commands interactively when run, you must cause it, when started running for such interactive use in the most ordinary way, to print or display an announcement including an appropriate copyright notice and a notice that there is no warranty (or else, saying that you provide a warranty) and that users may redistribute the program under these conditions, and telling the user how to view a copy of this License. (Exception: if the Program itself is interactive but does not normally print such an announcement, your work based on the Program is not required to print an announcement.)
These requirements apply to the modified work as a whole. If identifiable sections of that work are not derived from the Program, and can be reasonably considered independent and separate works in themselves, then this License, and its terms, do not apply to those sections when you distribute them as separate works. But when you distribute the same sections as part of a whole which is a work based on the Program, the distribution of the whole must be on the terms of this License, whose permissions for other licensees extend to the entire whole, and thus to each and every part regardless of who wrote it.
Section 2B specifically says if you modify a GPL program, than you must make your modifications available to all third parties. That means if they modify the kernel, then they have to give all of their modifications back.
Unfortunately, no one here knows how their product works, so we cannot say what parts of Linux it might modify.
Being a techie and being a lawyer are not two mutually exlusive clubs. The main problem is that almost all techie lawyers become patent lawyers. While there is a need for good patent lawyers(to defend against all these crappy patents), there is also a need for lawyers who can handle technical issues.
Personally, I am applying to law school right now so that I can do something within technology law. While I will probably take the patent bar exam, I do not want to be a patent lawyer. Hopefully I can work on the corporate side with some of these new tech. companies.
I also think that we need to do what we can about getting a group together to provide legal help and advice to open source programmers. It would probably need to be done on a pro bono basis. I have heard many people say this, but I don't think any action has been taken on it. If you are interested in working on such a group give me an email. Also, if you are interested in becoming a lawyer and want some advice on the application process feel free to send me some mail.
From Netcraft:
www.wto.org
www.wto.org is running Netscape-Enterprise/3.5.1C on DIGITAL UNIX
However, they had been running Netscape Enterprise Server on Digital Unix. Netscape Enterprise server is very good about acting the same between NT and Unix. I have not had as good of luck with apache on NT.
As someone who embarking on the journey to become a patent lawyer, let me explain exactly what it takes to practice patent law.
There are two types of people who can handle patent work. There are patent agents and patent lawyers. To qualify as a patent agent, you must pass the Patent Bar Exam. A patent agent can perform all of the duties related to patent work except for litigation before a court. Patent lawyers have passed both the Patent Bar Exam and a State Bar Exam. Patent lawyers may litigate patent cases before the Federal courts.
The complications arise in the qualifications to take each of the Bar Exams. For almost all State Bar Exams you must have earned a JD or LLM from an accredited law school. To take the Patent Bar Exam, you must pass one of three qualifications.
1) Earned a BS in Engineering or a hard science(chemistry, biology, physics). Computer Science was recently added.
2) Have take 30 hours in chemistry, 30 hours in physics, of 40 hours in Engineering/chemistry/physics courses.
3) Be a certified Professional Engineer.
The patent bar exam is an open-book multiple choice test that has two 3 hour sections. It covers the rules and procedures of the Patent Office. The normal rate of passage is about 35%.
Doug Bridges
You two need to get over yourselves. While I respect both of you, and I appreciate the work that you both do for the Open Source community, petty bickering over who flamed who first does not help. I am not saying that one of you is correct and the other is not. Personally, I don't care.
Any time there is a democratic group, there will always be factions who have different opinions. Each one will acuse the other of doing the wrong thing. The problem is that people on the Internet will make harsher, ruder comments than people would make face to face. However, the Internet is much more public than any personal confrontations.
We do need all opinions available. We need people who can deal with the PHB's and get them comfortable with Open Source. We need everyone we can get.
The problem is the number of possible moves in chess is enormous. The general thinking is that there are more moves possible in a game of chess than there are particles in the universe. Obviously that statement is a bit ahrd to quantify, but we can easily deduce that it will be a while until a chess program can logically find all possible solutions. Deep Blue could work out all of the moves to about 5 moves deep once in the endgame.
Checkers, however, does not suffer from this problem. That is why it is possible to create an unbeatable checkers program.
A very interesting version of the game that I saw was one where your opponent couldn't see what pieces were what. There was no check, you won when you captured the king. You could place the pieces in any order in your initial two rows. It really seemed like a combination of chess and Stratego.
As an aside to this:
Nerd: an unstylish, unattractive, or socially inept person; especially : one slavishly devoted to intellectual or academic pursuits
Geek (2): a person often of an intellectual bent who is disapproved of
--Webster Dictionary
For some reason I think that this fits into the intellectual category considering the quality of his films.
Personally, George C. Scott holds a special place in my heart because he is in two of my favorite movies of all time: Dr. Stangelove and Patton. While he was definately a character actor, I think that George C. Scott plays the powerful person who has a fatal weakness like no other. He had the ability to present a character that could otherwise be dissmissed as a typical arrogant bastard with a skill that I think is still unmatched.
I have been reading past interviews with him this morning and it is very refreshing to see how humble he was. Check out here for a very good bit on his life. It was done before he died.
Most Smalltalk environments allow you to do this. They have had this sort of functionality for years.
No proof there. Everyone knows that Paul Allen invested in Transmeta. That doesn't mean that there is Microsoft involvement. All it means is that someone who owns Microsoft stock(granted quite a bit of MS stock) helped fund the company.
Just to let you know,
IBM Thinkpad 355's do not have MWave modems/soundcards. The first IBM Laptops that had MWave modems were the 755CE/CSE/CD models. The 355 does not have an integrated sound card at all. The 750/755C/CS have a cheap business sound card installed in them(that is not even SoundBlaster compatible).
While I do agree with some of the points in this article, I think that the author really needs some help with his arguements.
BSD is Too Fragmented
His arguement boils down to:
BSD: 4 versions
Linux: 100 distributions
Do you notice the difference? Linux has different distributions, not different versions. There are two main problems that fragmentation can cause.
1) Repatative work is done.
2) Incompatabilities.
Linux definately has the problem with #2 as per his example, but it doesn't have the problem of #1 as BSD does. There is only one kernel, all of the rest is package management.
Unrepentant Hypocrisy
His arguement: People say that BSD should stop complaining about the GPL while using a lot of software that is GPLed. But only 8% of tools and 15% of libs are GPLed.
Notice however, the most important things run under FreeBSD are GPLed: gcc, Apache, Samba, etc.
FreeBSD is an Old Boy's Network and Too Closed
Two points here: yes, FreeBSD is slow about moving things into distributions until they are sure that the software entering the distribution is stable and peachy keen. Linux distributions are usually a little more cutting edge. Most distributors don't want the people to have to hop on the web and download the latest version of things even though they just bought a distrib. of Linux the day before. Choose which mindset you will.
He then goes on to attack the one complaint that most people have against BSD. That its users act mightier than thou. The tone he uses in the article doesn't help his cause much. I think that if BSD wants to take off they really need to work on this problem. While he is right in saying it does happen no matter what OS you deal with, BSD has the repuatation that it happens much more with it. Whether this reputation is unfounded or not doesn't matter. People on BSD mailing lists and the BSD users need to act nicer than anyone else around if they are going to get over their rep.
FreeBSD is a Linux Clone
I hope everyone here realizes that they were developed separately. Granted they use many of the same programs, but the app does not an OS make(unless you are M$).
There are no apps for FreeBSD
Gee, it is nice to see a little FUD about Linux at the end of this section. I am glad that he feels the need to attack Linux at every turn.
FreeBSD is a Dead End
You never know.
FreeBSD Should GPL Itself
He is right. They can't. Them the brakes.
FreeBSD Users are Simply Jealous of the Success of Linux
Lets see, many wonder why a new user would try Linux as opposed to FreeBSD. I guess that he hasn't seen a newbie try to install FreeBSD before. The reason that RedHat has done so well as opposed to Slackware is all in the installation. The only current software harder to install than FreeBSD is OpenBSD.
Once again I feel that his FUD against Linux is a bit aggrevating. He says without doubt that BSD is technically superior to Linux. I know of a lot of people who would take issue with that.
Conclusion
BSD has a different way of approaching things than Linux does. If you are needing to run a box where you are considering one of the other, evaluate them both and pick the one that fits best.
I think that the main conclusion should be that everyone needs to chill out a bit. We shouldn't be fighting against each other. Both FreeBSD and Linux are fine operating systems with devout user groups. They should try to work together and advance their software rather than biting each others heads off because of percieved differences.
Doug Bridges is done spouting off.
Try jmeter from the apache group. You can find it at the Java Apache site
I get to see the box, but only because IE5 has cached it. Go to the site and then hit the refresh button. 5 to 1 that it can't find the server.
His MySql database is starting to timeout. I am not sure what platform the dbase is running on, but I am sure that is the problem.
So are the hemos-erotic.
We really don't need another web site about Microsoft technical support.
I once worked on a political campaign where the incumbant paid off one of the canidates in the other party to run a negative campaign against the incumbants main compentitor. Well, I am getting the same sort of feeling here.
......................................... 4,741,750 13.8%
Check out this nice little bit from SCO's SEC Filings in February.
Common Stock Approximate
Five Percent Shareholders, Directors Beneficially Percentage
and Certain Executive Officers Owned Owned(1)
------------------------------------ ------------ -----------
Novell, Inc.
Corporate Headquarters
122 East 1700 South
Provo, Utah 84606
Microsoft Corporation................................. 4,217,606 12.3%
One Microsoft Way
Redmond, Washington 98052-6399
Douglas L. Michels(2)................................. 4,028,400 11.7%
c/o The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
400 Encinal Street Santa Cruz,
California 95061-1900
Lawrence Michels(3)................................... 3,149,992 9.2%
30376 Snowbird Lane
Evergreen, Colorado 80439
Now am I the only one who thinks that Novell and Microsoft might not mind the president of SCO slamming Linux. It is just a thought. But if I was a major shareholder in SCO, I don't think I would like Microsoft dumping $25 million worth of shares.