First, they aren't exactly.
For normal companies there is a presumption of innocence or a presumption that market forces will take care of the situation.
Whatever specific remedies do or do not come from the current case, that's not going to be the end of it. XP,.NET, Microsoft worms are all territory for fresh investigations.
How does the MS monopoly come into any of this. Microsoft is a monopoly. This means that any and all activities that might have any bearing on competitiveness are subject to intense scrutiny. Anything that MSN does that might be construed to further Microsoft's monopoly is subject to intense scrutiny.
We are not the "internet police" in that we do not have the duty to demand that their pages be renderable on any/all browsers, but we have the right to demand that MSN show good technical reasons for any defect in their site that disallows access by any browser. Since MSN corrected the defect, I would assume we were right and MSN was wrong.
Would you trust corporate data to.NET?
The key to B2B will be interfacing with systems that won't or can't upgrade to the latest whatever. Even the suspicion that a vendor might do something to break compatability is enough reason to switch vendors fast.
LOL. Right on target.
Microsoft. Where mediocrity is an aspiration.
The target audience is the dullards, dunces, and dolts that want (need?) to think of themselves as smart (using as little effort as possible).
Contrast with K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple, Stupid) which came out of something like Lawrence Livermore (where it "is exactly rocket science").
Misinformation? The following seem rather obviously informed.
Americans have prided themselves on protecting their freedom by limiting the concentration of power. A business that holds a monopoly in one area may be able to use its influence to extend its monopoly in entirely new ways Microsoft's security record is nothing to brag about. ? Early security analyses show that compromises made for the sake of universal availability make Passport less secure... Suppose somebody breaks in.
Right. Basically, the server should serve up standard stuff to unknown browser clients. I would take this as an indicator of what to expect from.NET in the future.
Actually, if you have control of both the browsers and the server, you could have some interesting security by obscurity by using fictitious User Agents.
>>as if it makes a difference whether you are in one Microsoft database or another Microsoft database.
As if it makes a difference whether you are in one government database or another government database. You are extremely naive if you don't think it matters what information is in what database.
>>so most of that information is not that useful.
And that excuses what, precisely?
>>At least Microsoft doesn't play games.
Like the Code Red, Nimda, etc games?
>>It's the same old "Microsoft products are full of security holes" argument...
And I'm still getting the same old requests for cmd.exe and friends.
The argument is old. The holes are old. The requests from unpatched Microsoft servers are quite fresh.
The argument may be old, but it doesn't seem like it's getting any less valid.
Actually, most of the browsers announce themselves as Mozilla/4.0
[fine print]
(compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows NT)
[/fine print]
So we have Microsoft breaking compatability with the browser that their browsers claim to be.
This is the bunch that is going to bring us.NET Passport Hailstorm ???
Methinks its time for this rat to desert a sinking ship.
When TV stations started broadcasting in color instead of Black&White, The existing B&W televisions could still receive. In fact with everything in color, there are still a few B&W receivers and they still work.
Since it's Microsoft talking, YES YOU CAN means NO YOU CAN'T (unless you are actively making Bill richer).
...make it their regular browser and then assume that it's somehow inferior because of this message. That works only as long as Microsoft sites/software is presumed to be good. Experience teaches us otherwise.
If the browser works fine on other sites, then the problem is with MSN, and by extension, Microsoft software. As soon as MS gets a reputation for "putting a spanner in the works", people start looking, people start finding, and even when MS is innocent, people start blaming.
Find a bug? It's Microsoft!
Hmmm. I can download Java from IBM. There's also kaffe, jikes and probably a few others. Doesn't look like the control is under anybodys thumb.
To the point of sicking its lawyers on companies that have the temerity to butcher the language, more power to 'em.
Microsoft programs have shown themselves vulnerable to worms, viruses, and break-ins, on Microsoft's own computers and on everybody else's. Not only that, the vulnerable and cracked Microsoft servers keep advertising themselves in my Apache logs.
They advocate decentralizing power and promoting competition. Somhow I don't think Susan Landau would apreciate being referred to as "He".
The internal network is not the Internet. Only if no one on the internal network has ever received email or accessed a web page. Probably a few others I have forgotten.
How to get any work done without exposing your data center is an exercise left to the reader.
It's a Microsoft 99.999%
For real 99.999% try IBM or Sun with a real OS.
*BSD on very good hardware might make it.
Linux on very good hardware should be close. (You want a year or two of actual field experience)
Adobe is probably closer to pro-competitive.
gs, xpdf, ps2pdf come to mind.
Even if Adobe were to vanish, their users would not be left completely SOL.
Despite the eBook fiasco, I think Adobe is one of the "good guys".
Testing with both wires in the mouth is not that risky. Touching a conductor if you are well grounded can mean a one-way trip to the cemetary. Look at the path the electricity takes.
Your existing telephone, keyboard, digital remote, wristwatch, calculator, 10-key adding machine, digital voltmeter, oven timer are ok. But what about any such devices manufactured AFTER the law goes into effect? What about something as simple as a mechanical counter?
That sounds like a digital wrist watch.
Digital voltmeter.
4-function electronic calculator.
10-key adding machine.
Oven with a digital timer.
Microwave controls.
If I'm reading that right, it would make it illegal for HBO to use any security measure that prevented you from time-shifting (recording) any material you were entitled to receive.
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There is a disparity in the tone of the reporting. Well yes./. is rather more a Linux than a Microsoft Windows site. Who cares if the disparity is intentional or not.
I thought the tone was more like: "Finally, after all the Microsoft worm stuff, here is a Linux exploit. Kernel yet. Have fun."
, code red's patch was out a month before code red. And still not being applied. To Microsoft's own servers, yet.
There is a disturbing disparity alright. It is in the response of the parties responsible for the software.
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First, they aren't exactly. .NET, Microsoft worms are all territory for fresh investigations.
For normal companies there is a presumption of innocence or a presumption that market forces will take care of the situation.
Whatever specific remedies do or do not come from the current case, that's not going to be the end of it. XP,
How does the MS monopoly come into any of this.
Microsoft is a monopoly. This means that any and all activities that might have any bearing on competitiveness are subject to intense scrutiny. Anything that MSN does that might be construed to further Microsoft's monopoly is subject to intense scrutiny.
We are not the "internet police" in that we do not have the duty to demand that their pages be renderable on any/all browsers, but we have the right to demand that MSN show good technical reasons for any defect in their site that disallows access by any browser. Since MSN corrected the defect, I would assume we were right and MSN was wrong.
Would you trust corporate data to .NET?
The key to B2B will be interfacing with systems that won't or can't upgrade to the latest whatever. Even the suspicion that a vendor might do something to break compatability is enough reason to switch vendors fast.
Correct. Bashing Microsoft does not make one 'informed'. Informed makes one bash Microsoft.
LOL. Right on target.
Microsoft. Where mediocrity is an aspiration.
The target audience is the dullards, dunces, and dolts that want (need?) to think of themselves as smart (using as little effort as possible).
Contrast with K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple, Stupid) which came out of something like Lawrence Livermore (where it "is exactly rocket science").
Misinformation? The following seem rather obviously informed.
Americans have prided themselves on protecting their freedom by limiting the concentration of power.
A business that holds a monopoly in one area may be able to use its influence to extend its monopoly in entirely new ways
Microsoft's security record is nothing to brag about.
? Early security analyses show that compromises made for the sake of universal availability make Passport less secure...
Suppose somebody breaks in.
Microsoft's MSN is blocking access by the browser that Microsoft's Internet Explorer pretends to be, i.e. Mozilla/4.0
>>Then it's MSN that is flawed, not the protocol.
.NET in the future.
Right. Basically, the server should serve up standard stuff to unknown browser clients. I would take this as an indicator of what to expect from
Actually, if you have control of both the browsers and the server, you could have some interesting security by obscurity by using fictitious User Agents.
Then why does Internet Explorer advertise itself as Mozilla/4.0?
>>as if it makes a difference whether you are in one Microsoft database or another Microsoft database.
As if it makes a difference whether you are in one government database or another government database. You are extremely naive if you don't think it matters what information is in what database.
>>so most of that information is not that useful.
And that excuses what, precisely?
>>At least Microsoft doesn't play games.
Like the Code Red, Nimda, etc games?
>>It's the same old "Microsoft products are full of security holes" argument ...
And I'm still getting the same old requests for cmd.exe and friends.
The argument is old. The holes are old. The requests from unpatched Microsoft servers are quite fresh.
The argument may be old, but it doesn't seem like it's getting any less valid.
Actually, most of the browsers announce themselves as Mozilla/4.0 .NET Passport Hailstorm ???
[fine print]
(compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows NT)
[/fine print]
So we have Microsoft breaking compatability with the browser that their browsers claim to be.
This is the bunch that is going to bring us
Methinks its time for this rat to desert a sinking ship.
When TV stations started broadcasting in color instead of Black&White, The existing B&W televisions could still receive. In fact with everything in color, there are still a few B&W receivers and they still work.
Since it's Microsoft talking, YES YOU CAN means NO YOU CAN'T (unless you are actively making Bill richer).
...make it their regular browser and then assume that it's somehow inferior because of this message.
That works only as long as Microsoft sites/software is presumed to be good. Experience teaches us otherwise.
If the browser works fine on other sites, then the problem is with MSN, and by extension, Microsoft software. As soon as MS gets a reputation for "putting a spanner in the works", people start looking, people start finding, and even when MS is innocent, people start blaming.
Find a bug? It's Microsoft!
Hmmm. I can download Java from IBM. There's also kaffe, jikes and probably a few others. Doesn't look like the control is under anybodys thumb.
To the point of sicking its lawyers on companies that have the temerity to butcher the language, more power to 'em.
Microsoft programs have shown themselves vulnerable to worms, viruses, and break-ins, on Microsoft's own computers and on everybody else's.
Not only that, the vulnerable and cracked Microsoft servers keep advertising themselves in my Apache logs.
They advocate decentralizing power and promoting competition. Somhow I don't think Susan Landau would apreciate being referred to as "He".
The internal network is not the Internet.
Only if no one on the internal network has ever received email or accessed a web page. Probably a few others I have forgotten.
How to get any work done without exposing your data center is an exercise left to the reader.
It's a Microsoft 99.999%
For real 99.999% try IBM or Sun with a real OS.
*BSD on very good hardware might make it.
Linux on very good hardware should be close. (You want a year or two of actual field experience)
Adobe is probably closer to pro-competitive.
gs, xpdf, ps2pdf come to mind.
Even if Adobe were to vanish, their users would not be left completely SOL.
Despite the eBook fiasco, I think Adobe is one of the "good guys".
Testing with both wires in the mouth is not that risky. Touching a conductor if you are well grounded can mean a one-way trip to the cemetary. Look at the path the electricity takes.
Your existing telephone, keyboard, digital remote, wristwatch, calculator, 10-key adding machine, digital voltmeter, oven timer are ok. But what about any such devices manufactured AFTER the law goes into effect? What about something as simple as a mechanical counter?
That sounds like a digital wrist watch.
Digital voltmeter.
4-function electronic calculator.
10-key adding machine.
Oven with a digital timer.
Microwave controls.
Senator from Disney may be right. It is "GOOFY"
The Mickey Mouse state.
First the election?, and now this.
If I'm reading that right, it would make it illegal for HBO to use any security measure that prevented you from time-shifting (recording) any material you were entitled to receive.
There is a disparity in the tone of the reporting. /. is rather more a Linux than a Microsoft Windows site. Who cares if the disparity is intentional or not.
Well yes.
I thought the tone was more like: "Finally, after all the Microsoft worm stuff, here is a Linux exploit. Kernel yet. Have fun."
, code red's patch was out a month before code red.
And still not being applied. To Microsoft's own servers, yet.
There is a disturbing disparity alright. It is in the response of the parties responsible for the software.