The Findings of Fact have to do with Microsoft's ability to impose its will on the general desktop computer users. Agreed, Microsoft certainly has better things to do than create trojans and viruses for its users. So then, why isn't Microsoft doing these better things?
Ok, I'll throw my 2 cents in that it is a "Windows" problem in that the OS allows and even encourages such behavior. Somehow I think that at this stage, any Outlook-on-Unix would be sandboxed and logged.
Doesn't affect linux? Right. Does affect MS Windows? Right. What it is, and how to clean up the damage IS news. As usual,/. seems to be the best available technical source for MS Windows. A search for ILOVEYOU on microsoft.com timed out with 0 results. You would think that by now they would have some clue as to what is going on.
Somehow, I think skyinet.net got smart and pulled the plug until this gets sorted out. Among other things, the payload resets Internet Explorer's home page to one of four wierd looking pages ending in WIN-BUGSFIX.EXE. Without knowing what I'm talking about, this looks like the setup for some kind of Windows-based DDoS attack. Or, it might simply be a DDoS attack against skyinet.net.
Actually, pretty close. Based on the Findings of Fact, the ubiquity of Internet Explorer, and by association Outlook and Outlook Express has been illegaly forced on the OEMs and hence the buying public. It would be interesting to know how many of the worm-enriched email are coming from microsoft.com
As I understand it, you can create a proprietary work that does not itself contain the shared library. If the library is proprietary, the customer is responsible for getting his own copy. If the library is GPL, the customer can get his own copy, or you can supply the customer with the GPL'd library, including source if asked. Furtherermore, if you modified the library to support the proprietary work, the modified library is of course required, the source for the modified library must be readily available, clearly marked as to what you changed, but source for the proprietary work does not have to be available.
It gets sticky if you need proprietary extensions to a GPL'd library. It's even stickier if the library is proprietary, and you cannot change it.
Well, for something not from MIT, there is AutoLISP, the Lisp in AutoCAD, barely changed since 1986. It is not much of a lisp, but it makes an enormous difference in what you can do in AutoCAD.
Well, I am using a version 2.50 PKZIP25.EXE dated 04/15/98. It is a command line version under Windows NT or 9x. We bought it after WinZip mangled a zip of a large directory and couldn't read what it wrote. PKZIP25 seems to work fine, long filenames and all.
Your point is well taken. I think I've been fortunate to have had more than my share of good teachers and the ability to tune out and ignore the few bad ones without ruffling too many feathers. Having parents who were educated and educators, with rather derogatory attitudes about some powers-that-be, probably helped. I think I've always known that school should promote independent thought, particularly if you can disagree with the teacher, and make it stick. If the schools are trying to produce a monotonous sequence of sheeple, something is very, very wrong.
>>Literacy was at a higher rate in the US before mandatory schooling. Somehow that seems extremely unlikely. When manadory schooling went into effect, a third grade education was actually an accomplishment. People signing legal documents with an "X" because they couldn't write their names. I have no doubts that the education system highly propagandizes itself, but unless education is mandatory, either culturally or legally, the literacy rate will be rather low. And somebody has to pay for it.
They do roll over at different times. The 90s are the years 1990 through 1999, or 1890 through 1899 if you are old enough. The two-hudredth decade is the years 1991 through 2000 inclusive, which we are still in. The twentieth century is the years 1901 through 2000 inclusive, which we are still in. The second millenium is the years 1001 through 2000, which we are still in. The two-hundredth decade is almost a tounge twister, so people refer to aproximately the same time span as the 90s, which comes out a lot easier.
I sympathise. My ears hurt too. But the appeal of OOG's criticism is that it would be painfully obvious were it not for the tendency of sophistication to obfuscate the painfully obvious. If he were to use mixed case properly, he would lose the artistic effect of yelling amidst polite conversation.
Try to log onto the same box as three different users at the same time. Even try to have drive X: point to three different network shares at the same time.
>>Some of the posts here suggests that NT does not protect the apps from the kernel(which it does, kernel runs in ring0, while apps or userland programs runs in ring3... get your facts straight. As a microsoft trainer, it is easy to see you know nothing about hardware protection. The kernel of almost any OS protects itself from errant applications. No kernel does or can protect the apps from the kernel, although Multics might give it a good try.
dBASE, at least dBASE for DOS through 5.0 uses logical rather than physical locks for locking resources. The dBASE locks are negative numbers. To lock record n, dBASE locks the file at something like position -n-2, IIRC. The offset is due to using -1 and -2 as locks for (sorry, I don't remember). If you are interested, I can probably rework out the specifics of the locking. (Tony@ServaCorp.com) Intrspy/Cmdspy don't work under NT.
The first ten million people that you see out your window are _not_ a fair representation of the population of your country/continent/planet. The first 50 that pass _are_ a fair representation of the next 9,999,950 that will pass.
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The Findings of Fact have to do with Microsoft's ability to impose its will on the general desktop computer users. Agreed, Microsoft certainly has better things to do than create trojans and viruses for its users. So then, why isn't Microsoft doing these better things?
Maybe not, but I sure did reading it.
Ok, I'll throw my 2 cents in that it is a "Windows" problem in that the OS allows and even encourages such behavior.
Somehow I think that at this stage, any Outlook-on-Unix would be sandboxed and logged.
Doesn't affect linux? Right. /. seems to be the best available technical source for MS Windows. A search for ILOVEYOU on microsoft.com timed out with 0 results. You would think that by now they would have some clue as to what is going on.
Does affect MS Windows? Right.
What it is, and how to clean up the damage IS news.
As usual,
Somehow, I think skyinet.net got smart and pulled the plug until this gets sorted out. Among other things, the payload resets Internet Explorer's home page to one of four wierd looking pages ending in WIN-BUGSFIX.EXE. Without knowing what I'm talking about, this looks like the setup for some kind of Windows-based DDoS attack. Or, it might simply be a DDoS attack against skyinet.net.
Actually, pretty close. Based on the Findings of Fact, the ubiquity of Internet Explorer, and by association Outlook and Outlook Express has been illegaly forced on the OEMs and hence the buying public. It would be interesting to know how many of the worm-enriched email are coming from microsoft.com
As I understand it, you can create a proprietary work that does not itself contain the shared library. If the library is proprietary, the customer is responsible for getting his own copy. If the library is GPL, the customer can get his own copy, or you can supply the customer with the GPL'd library, including source if asked. Furtherermore, if you modified the library to support the proprietary work, the modified library is of course required, the source for the modified library must be readily available, clearly marked as to what you changed, but source for the proprietary work does not have to be available.
It gets sticky if you need proprietary extensions to a GPL'd library. It's even stickier if the library is proprietary, and you cannot change it.
Well, for something not from MIT, there is AutoLISP, the Lisp in AutoCAD, barely changed since 1986. It is not much of a lisp, but it makes an enormous difference in what you can do in AutoCAD.
Well, I am using a version 2.50 PKZIP25.EXE dated 04/15/98. It is a command line version under Windows NT or 9x. We bought it after WinZip mangled a zip of a large directory and couldn't read what it wrote. PKZIP25 seems to work fine, long filenames and all.
Ok, ok, it's a bad pun.
Freudian slip.
Tongue twister twisted into tounge.
Your point is well taken. I think I've been fortunate to have had more than my share of good teachers and the ability to tune out and ignore the few bad ones without ruffling too many feathers. Having parents who were educated and educators, with rather derogatory attitudes about some powers-that-be, probably helped. I think I've always known that school should promote independent thought, particularly if you can disagree with the teacher, and make it stick.
If the schools are trying to produce a monotonous sequence of sheeple, something is very, very wrong.
>>Literacy was at a higher rate in the US before mandatory schooling.
Somehow that seems extremely unlikely. When manadory schooling went into effect, a third grade education was actually an accomplishment. People signing legal documents with an "X" because they couldn't write their names.
I have no doubts that the education system highly propagandizes itself, but unless education is mandatory, either culturally or legally, the literacy rate will be rather low. And somebody has to pay for it.
They do roll over at different times.
The 90s are the years 1990 through 1999, or 1890 through 1899 if you are old enough.
The two-hudredth decade is the years 1991 through 2000 inclusive, which we are still in.
The twentieth century is the years 1901 through 2000 inclusive, which we are still in.
The second millenium is the years 1001 through 2000, which we are still in.
The two-hundredth decade is almost a tounge twister, so people refer to aproximately the same time span as the 90s, which comes out a lot easier.
I sympathise. My ears hurt too. But the appeal of OOG's criticism is that it would be painfully obvious were it not for the tendency of sophistication to obfuscate the painfully obvious. If he were to use mixed case properly, he would lose the artistic effect of yelling amidst polite conversation.
No joke. Bad impact, not a good impact.
Personally, I think their humor is doing fine. Did you notice the mutilated US flag with a monitor replacing the field of stars in the Microsoft link?
Yes, I've heard of it. What is your point?
Now THAT _is_ an April Fools story.
Try to log onto the same box as three different users at the same time. Even try to have drive X: point to three different network shares at the same time.
How true. How true ;)
>>Some of the posts here suggests that NT does not protect the apps from the kernel(which it does, kernel runs in ring0, while apps or userland programs runs in ring3 ... get your facts straight.
As a microsoft trainer, it is easy to see you know nothing about hardware protection. The kernel of almost any OS protects itself from errant applications. No kernel does or can protect the apps from the kernel, although Multics might give it a good try.
dBASE, at least dBASE for DOS through 5.0 uses logical rather than physical locks for locking resources. The dBASE locks are negative numbers. To lock record n, dBASE locks the file at something like position -n-2, IIRC. The offset is due to using -1 and -2 as locks for (sorry, I don't remember). If you are interested, I can probably rework out the specifics of the locking.
(Tony@ServaCorp.com) Intrspy/Cmdspy don't work under NT.
The first ten million people that you see out your window are _not_ a fair representation of the population of your country/continent/planet. The first 50 that pass _are_ a fair representation of the next 9,999,950 that will pass.
I used to live in Skiatook, Oklahoma.
What did Exxon spend to find a name that would offend no one and was not an obscene or negative word in any language?