It doesn't work with any advanced (read: Sorenson, etc...) codecs on anything other than Windows and MacOS. Sure, you can try asking people to get Crossover Office to view the content- but I wouldn't be placing bets on the outcome being other than most people telling you, "What part of 'NO' do you not understand...".
I would suggest something along using Ogg Theora as there's very likely to be a player amongst all platforms in question (Real Player??) and it's most definitely in a similar class for overall compactness of the content.
However, having 8 independant vector processors in the same package is like having a 9-core box in hand. For general purpose computing, it's not as useful as one would think, but for scientific and engineering computing as well as game uses, it's damned nifty. It'd also probably rock for other multimedia purposes. Imagine being able to crunch video streams with h.264 at a D1 or better resolution realtime as well as decode a similar stream. Instant Video over IP without any special hardware other than the CPU.
Tried it against my own AP. Nice, nifty little program called airsnort- within 4 hours or less you can have the million or so packets needed to crack pretty much any sized key for WEP.
WPA's potentially better in that it changes the WEP key every so often with the handshaked parties to make it dramatically more difficult to obtain the WEP key- but there's still a risk that the WPA key can be broken or sniffed out of the whole mix.
It would be good Tempest hardening for a SOHO or a SME type business where you didn't want the signals getting out of the building. And I can see some locations going for this as part of their Tempest shielding regimen.
Considering that Water Based doesn't mean water soluable (Consider that all acrylic latex paints are pretty much all Water Based- which is the likely base for this stuff...) it's kind of silly to say that it's going to increase the copper and aluminum content of your soil as it's largely not going to wash off in the first place...
And there was others, WebTV's still sorta around, but only because it's another Microsoft boondoggle.
Each and every one of the players in question went down in flames. Why? The pricepoint to get in killed them. When Netpliance was offering the iOpener for $99 to buy, it might have worked had their software been better (That'll kill it no matter what...). But when they raised the price to nearly $400 to cover the costs and to "discourage" the modders converting them into little flat-panel PCs, it pretty much doomed them from that point on.
When you can get a full-tilt PC for a hundred dollars more and consignment/refurbed machines in the class of machine like these IADs for $99-199, there's no market potential on these devices.
Privacy has no bearing on the Fourth Ammendment rights. It's part of it, but it's not what defines what is and isn't kosher for a LEO to do.
Legally speaking, you're not allowed to touch any property of someone without permission, even if it's in the public area. If it touches on Fourth Ammendment or other legal rights, including touching or tinkering with someone's property (putting ANY kind of bug on a vehicle falls under this category...) then it requires a warrant issued by a judge for it to be legit. I don't care what this other judge said, there's literally TONS of past precedent saying otherwise and the statement of "expectation of privacy" doesn't erase it. I'd love to see what the appeals look like on this on.
Namely following behind the vehicle. The GPS doesn't do that. Legally, you're not allowed to touch my property without permission of the owner thereof- even the OUTSIDE of the property. If you're standing in my front yard and I tell you to leave and you don't, it's called criminal trespass which is at least a misdemeanor in most jurisdictions. As such, the act of planting a bug of any kind, including a GPS device, is something that could be considered criminal trespass. ANYTHING that constitutes that sort of thing under any other circumstances requires a warrant issued by a judge for that jurisdiction- or else it's a violation of the Fourth Ammendment or it's a criminal act perpetrated by the LEOs.
This is putting a device on a vehicle. If *I* did something like this, I'd expect to be put in Jail. Since this is the case, the LEO's need to have a friggin' warrant, per the FOURTH AMMENDMENT to do something along those lines since it's technically searching. It's analogous to a damn voice bug or a video camera in the vehicle or your house. You'd need a warrant for that, so why in the HELL is this any different?
I.E. Did he obtain them via NDA, or did someone else give them to him. If they gave them to him, he's off the hook as it's no longer a Trade Secret and the ones who gave it out are in trouble.
You miss what I'm on about. There will always be more people wanting to get in on the modeling, etc. and saying that a company's going to be ostracised is only fooling yourself.
Why do I say this?
Well, EA's still quite in business isn't it? The RIAA labels are still going quite strong in spite of all the crap they pull on the artists. Ditto the MPAA studios.
The reality is you're a sharecropper unless you go up quite a ways on the food chain- no matter what industry you work in. They're just not going to give the words of some alienated modeler a second thought in the industry unless they're a big name. And while there's going to be people willing to take a stand on principals, there's unfortunately tons of people who don't give a rat's about them or aren't in a position to care about principals.
Pissing off the community that they depend on to make the content? They (The Corporations...) do that every day and don't have any more pain than if they don't- so that will NEVER enter into their equations of what they do/don't do. It just won't until we all group together (And that means all the artisans and engineers that comprise the Game Dev and Media Industries...) and get their attention with a clue-by-four. That's the reality here. I agree with your sentiments for the large part, so don't get me wrong here, but the reality is far removed from what you, I, or the modelers and other artists care about.
Good. Lord. In. Heaven... You need to try to draw attention to this and do it in as many forums as is possible. I was under the understanding that Planeshift was working as an Open Source MMOG, It's readily apparent if the veracity of your claims on that link can be confirmed that they're claiming one thing and doing something completely different and as such that would be a BAD THING.
Seems to me, it's time to reveal them for who they really are and salvage anything that we can from their project (It IS GPLed, a fork of anything that is so licensed is quite in order at this point...).
I was considering coming up with a networking layer to do P2P if someone beat me to it, but not now. I don't even think I really want to play the game at this point- I don't like being lied to and the games your link describes is pure lying to the rest of the community.
...when you offer to take it off their hands, many people that sit on the BOD of the company in question start saying "Someone's interested in buying it, surely there's someone else out there that'll pay more for it...". They're tasked with trying to maximize profits and minimize losses as much as is possible. So when they're closing doors, the minimize losses part kicks in with a vengeance and more often than not, they just simply will not achieve a compromise on the price in question and the code drops off the face of the Earth, never to be seen again.
Blender's a notable exception, as is Crack Dot Com's release and Digital Tome's. But they're the exceptions, NOT the norm by any stretch of the imagination- and I don't see that changing any time soon unless there's a change in business philosophy or laws are passed requiring release under some Open Source terms or to the Public Domain.
Doesn't matter what they THINK they signed up for.
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Unless there's a clause in their agreement/contract for the ownership of the assets they worked on in the event of closing shop, then they've got no room to complain- period, end of story. Doesn't matter if it's a modeler, musician, level designer, or code developer. I have to deal with that all the time and there's nothing I can do about it. If it's a problem, I suggest a different line of work or get so good that you're not selling but leasing it out to the studios (There ARE people in that position, you know...).
ALWAYS be certain of the terms of your work. If you don't like them, don't do the work. If you can't afford to not work, do the work, but understand that you don't own it, can't own it, and have absolutely NO say in what is done with it once handed over to your employer.
Inclined to agree there...
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Freenet's the wrong thing to use as a base for the thing. Differing goals for P2P modalities. Anonymous operation's most definitely NOT something you want for this. However, I believe the parent poster was using it as an example more because it's the only definitive thing that most people know about, This fact is actually amazing, considering that there's a MUCH better solution, that's mature, runs under Java , Ruby, Perl, Python, and C/C++ right at the moment- better yet, it's under a decent enough Open Source license that wouldn't prohibit anyone from using it. Why people don't use it? Because most people associate it with Java and Java only because of who gave it to all of us...
Ah well, I'll leave it as an exercise for those who're serious about starting on solving that problem as I've got to work on using it for my own projects. Once I'm totally done (should be in another 6-12 months...) if nobody's done it or done something better, maybe I'll work on it. Pretty sure it'd rock as it bridges firewalls, etc.
Already has one in progress..
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Planeshift's the very thing we're talking about here. As for the world database, it'd take a little more than that- you need something along the lines of the database AND shared notifications of everything that each user was doing along with authentication of some sort to verify that all clients were telling the truth about what they're doing, etc.
Simply put, it's a rough thing to accomplish so nobody's attempted it- YET.:-)
Me, I've got my plate full trying to push two startups to major success AND trying to help LGP get several games out the door, so I doubt it'll be me (though I've an idea or two on how to go about it all...). But it's definitely not an unsurmountable problem and a P2P MMOG might not be a bad idea as it'd distribute the server horsepower over all the peers and the bandwidth as well. Just going to have to come up with framework, and that's the rough part more than anything else.
Assume for a small moment that you're in the shoes of one of the 3D modelers for this hypothetical company that decided to release all the assets for relicensing or for free.
Yes, it sucks that they might be giving it all away.
Did they pay you for your efforts?
Yes?
Then all of those assets are a work for hire and you don't own them and shouldn't be bitching about them giving them away. Can't be pissed about it, you traded the work for money and it's theirs now no matter how you slice it and it's theirs to do with as you please. But by all means do what you say you'd do- you'll find that you'll never work in any segment of the Game Dev industry and possibly the movies and TV as you'll come across as a sore loser. (Nobody wants to hire someone that whines about what someone does with a given asset after the owner paid for it from someone else..).
Me, I'd be tickled pink that my name was out and about and I might even find work after the implosion because of the stuff being available for all to see and use.
I was pointing out how damned silly it was the way he went on about it and then people modded him up.
He was as guilty of the thing he was complaining about as the orginal poster- if what he was talking about was really valid.
But then, I guess that's really what's wrong with Slashdot- people are so clueless that they think a whiner is insightful and the person pointing it out is "classy" in the sarcastic manner and trolling...
This isn't insightful. It's sad. Deeply predictable, and very sad indeed. This single post summarizes what's crap about Slashdot over the last couple of years. Pointless whining about something that offends their sensabilities and then someone going and modding them up instead of intelligent discussion and debate. I'd tell you to "fuck off", but I've got a little more class than that.
The DoD's been using this little package for some time as their modeling and engineering tool for the Ballistics Resarch Lab that is attached to the Aberdeen Proving Ground. This is the bunch tasked with improving our armored vehicles and improving our ammo to trash our opponents' vehcicles much more easily. BRL-CAD is the tool that they use to accomplish the modeling and simulation portions of this task.
It's on a par with SolidWorks and ProE and it's battle proven as it were. Like most Government projects of this nature, the Government is prohibited by law from making money off of it, so they've been allowing people to use it for free and provide their own plugins for it. Now, it's under various Open Source licenses instead of the one they'd used previously. Those in the defense industry know a LOT about this little program and if they're not using it, it's only because they couldn't mod the source code and it didn't do quite what they needed of it.
Think of a serious CAD package with things like Finite Element Analysis plugins. The rendering tool is just one of numerous plugins for this package.
Think somewhere in the class of Solidworks and ProE- the DoD uses this tool to run simulations of survivability on models of our armor and other people's.
Could you practice what you preach? Most titles don't have the "not able to skip the previews" issue and there's at least SOME players out there that, in fact, DO allow you to skip 'em. My comment stands- the grandparent post isn't really valid as there is evidence to the contrary. And, as for you, I can offer the same observation- pretty full of yourself there, eh? At least *I* posted with a real ID that can be tracked back to me. I stand behind what I say or retract it fully when proven wrong- the same can't be said of yourself.
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It doesn't work with any advanced (read: Sorenson, etc...) codecs on anything other than Windows and MacOS. Sure, you can try asking people to get Crossover Office to view the content- but I wouldn't be placing bets on the outcome being other than most people telling you, "What part of 'NO' do you not understand...".
I would suggest something along using Ogg Theora as there's very likely to be a player amongst all platforms in question (Real Player??) and it's most definitely in a similar class for overall compactness of the content.
However, having 8 independant vector processors in the same package is like having a 9-core box in hand. For general purpose computing, it's not as useful as one would think, but for scientific and engineering computing as well as game uses, it's damned nifty. It'd also probably rock for other multimedia purposes. Imagine being able to crunch video streams with h.264 at a D1 or better resolution realtime as well as decode a similar stream. Instant Video over IP without any special hardware other than the CPU.
Tried it against my own AP. Nice, nifty little program called airsnort- within 4 hours or less you can have the million or so packets needed to crack pretty much any sized key for WEP.
WPA's potentially better in that it changes the WEP key every so often with the handshaked parties to make it dramatically more difficult to obtain the WEP key- but there's still a risk that the WPA key can be broken or sniffed out of the whole mix.
It would be good Tempest hardening for a SOHO or a SME type business where you didn't want the signals getting out of the building. And I can see some locations going for this as part of their Tempest shielding regimen.
Considering that Water Based doesn't mean water soluable (Consider that all acrylic latex paints are pretty much all Water Based- which is the likely base for this stuff...) it's kind of silly to say that it's going to increase the copper and aluminum content of your soil as it's largely not going to wash off in the first place...
And there was others, WebTV's still sorta around, but only because it's another Microsoft boondoggle.
Each and every one of the players in question went down in flames. Why? The pricepoint to get in killed them. When Netpliance was offering the iOpener for $99 to buy, it might have worked had their software been better (That'll kill it no matter what...). But when they raised the price to nearly $400 to cover the costs and to "discourage" the modders converting them into little flat-panel PCs, it pretty much doomed them from that point on.
When you can get a full-tilt PC for a hundred dollars more and consignment/refurbed machines in the class of machine like these IADs for $99-199, there's no market potential on these devices.
I think the less viruses and spyware was referring to the E-Machines deal which is in the same general ballpark.
Next time you might want to pay closer attention to the topic thread before being sarcastic. It's a waste of good sarcasm...
Privacy has no bearing on the Fourth Ammendment rights. It's part of it, but it's not what defines what is and isn't kosher for a LEO to do.
Legally speaking, you're not allowed to touch any property of someone without permission, even if it's in the public area. If it touches on Fourth Ammendment or other legal rights, including touching or tinkering with someone's property (putting ANY kind of bug on a vehicle falls under this category...) then it requires a warrant issued by a judge for it to be legit. I don't care what this other judge said, there's literally TONS of past precedent saying otherwise and the statement of "expectation of privacy" doesn't erase it. I'd love to see what the appeals look like on this on.
Namely following behind the vehicle. The GPS doesn't do that. Legally, you're not allowed to touch my property without permission of the owner thereof- even the OUTSIDE of the property. If you're standing in my front yard and I tell you to leave and you don't, it's called criminal trespass which is at least a misdemeanor in most jurisdictions. As such, the act of planting a bug of any kind, including a GPS device, is something that could be considered criminal trespass. ANYTHING that constitutes that sort of thing under any other circumstances requires a warrant issued by a judge for that jurisdiction- or else it's a violation of the Fourth Ammendment or it's a criminal act perpetrated by the LEOs.
This is putting a device on a vehicle. If *I* did something like this, I'd expect to be put in Jail. Since this is the case, the LEO's need to have a friggin' warrant, per the FOURTH AMMENDMENT to do something along those lines since it's technically searching. It's analogous to a damn voice bug or a video camera in the vehicle or your house. You'd need a warrant for that, so why in the HELL is this any different?
I.E. Did he obtain them via NDA, or did someone else give them to him. If they gave them to him, he's off the hook as it's no longer a Trade Secret and the ones who gave it out are in trouble.
You miss what I'm on about. There will always be more people wanting to get in on the modeling, etc. and saying that a company's going to be ostracised is only fooling yourself.
Why do I say this?
Well, EA's still quite in business isn't it?
The RIAA labels are still going quite strong in spite of all the crap they pull on the artists.
Ditto the MPAA studios.
The reality is you're a sharecropper unless you go up quite a ways on the food chain- no matter what industry you work in. They're just not going to give the words of some alienated modeler a second thought in the industry unless they're a big name. And while there's going to be people willing to take a stand on principals, there's unfortunately tons of people who don't give a rat's about them or aren't in a position to care about principals.
Pissing off the community that they depend on to make the content? They (The Corporations...) do that every day and don't have any more pain than if they don't- so that will NEVER enter into their equations of what they do/don't do. It just won't until we all group together (And that means all the artisans and engineers that comprise the Game Dev and Media Industries...) and get their attention with a clue-by-four. That's the reality here. I agree with your sentiments for the large part, so don't get me wrong here, but the reality is far removed from what you, I, or the modelers and other artists care about.
Good. Lord. In. Heaven... You need to try to draw attention to this and do it in as many forums as is possible. I was under the understanding that Planeshift was working as an Open Source MMOG, It's readily apparent if the veracity of your claims on that link can be confirmed that they're claiming one thing and doing something completely different and as such that would be a BAD THING.
Seems to me, it's time to reveal them for who they really are and salvage anything that we can from their project (It IS GPLed, a fork of anything that is so licensed is quite in order at this point...).
I was considering coming up with a networking layer to do P2P if someone beat me to it, but not now. I don't even think I really want to play the game at this point- I don't like being lied to and the games your link describes is pure lying to the rest of the community.
...when you offer to take it off their hands, many people that sit on the BOD of the company in question start saying "Someone's interested in buying it, surely there's someone else out there that'll pay more for it...". They're tasked with trying to maximize profits and minimize losses as much as is possible. So when they're closing doors, the minimize losses part kicks in with a vengeance and more often than not, they just simply will not achieve a compromise on the price in question and the code drops off the face of the Earth, never to be seen again.
Blender's a notable exception, as is Crack Dot Com's release and Digital Tome's. But they're the exceptions, NOT the norm by any stretch of the imagination- and I don't see that changing any time soon unless there's a change in business philosophy or laws are passed requiring release under some Open Source terms or to the Public Domain.
Unless there's a clause in their agreement/contract for the ownership of the assets they worked on in the event of closing shop, then they've got no room to complain- period, end of story. Doesn't matter if it's a modeler, musician, level designer, or code developer. I have to deal with that all the time and there's nothing I can do about it. If it's a problem, I suggest a different line of work or get so good that you're not selling but leasing it out to the studios (There ARE people in that position, you know...).
ALWAYS be certain of the terms of your work. If you don't like them, don't do the work. If you can't afford to not work, do the work, but understand that you don't own it, can't own it, and have absolutely NO say in what is done with it once handed over to your employer.
Freenet's the wrong thing to use as a base for the thing. Differing goals for P2P modalities. Anonymous operation's most definitely NOT something you want for this. However, I believe the parent poster was using it as an example more because it's the only definitive thing that most people know about, This fact is actually amazing, considering that there's a MUCH better solution, that's mature, runs under Java , Ruby, Perl, Python, and C/C++ right at the moment- better yet, it's under a decent enough Open Source license that wouldn't prohibit anyone from using it. Why people don't use it? Because most people associate it with Java and Java only because of who gave it to all of us...
Ah well, I'll leave it as an exercise for those who're serious about starting on solving that problem as I've got to work on using it for my own projects. Once I'm totally done (should be in another 6-12 months...) if nobody's done it or done something better, maybe I'll work on it. Pretty sure it'd rock as it bridges firewalls, etc.
Planeshift's the very thing we're talking about here. As for the world database, it'd take a little more than that- you need something along the lines of the database AND shared notifications of everything that each user was doing along with authentication of some sort to verify that all clients were telling the truth about what they're doing, etc.
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Simply put, it's a rough thing to accomplish so nobody's attempted it- YET.
Me, I've got my plate full trying to push two startups to major success AND trying to help LGP get several games out the door, so I doubt it'll be me (though I've an idea or two on how to go about it all...). But it's definitely not an unsurmountable problem and a P2P MMOG might not be a bad idea as it'd distribute the server horsepower over all the peers and the bandwidth as well. Just going to have to come up with framework, and that's the rough part more than anything else.
"and it's theirs to do with as you please." /s/you/they
(Must proofread things more often... Grumble...)
Assume for a small moment that you're in the shoes of one of the 3D modelers for this hypothetical company that decided to release all the assets for relicensing or for free.
Yes, it sucks that they might be giving it all away.
Did they pay you for your efforts?
Yes?
Then all of those assets are a work for hire and you don't own them and shouldn't be bitching about them giving them away. Can't be pissed about it, you traded the work for money and it's theirs now no matter how you slice it and it's theirs to do with as you please. But by all means do what you say you'd do- you'll find that you'll never work in any segment of the Game Dev industry and possibly the movies and TV as you'll come across as a sore loser. (Nobody wants to hire someone that whines about what someone does with a given asset after the owner paid for it from someone else..).
Me, I'd be tickled pink that my name was out and about and I might even find work after the implosion because of the stuff being available for all to see and use.
I was pointing out how damned silly it was the way he went on about it and then people modded him up.
He was as guilty of the thing he was complaining about as the orginal poster- if what he was talking about was really valid.
But then, I guess that's really what's wrong with Slashdot- people are so clueless that they think a whiner is insightful and the person pointing it out is "classy" in the sarcastic manner and trolling...
This isn't insightful. It's sad. Deeply predictable, and very sad indeed. This single post summarizes what's crap about Slashdot over the last couple of years. Pointless whining about something that offends their sensabilities and then someone going and modding them up instead of intelligent discussion and debate. I'd tell you to "fuck off", but I've got a little more class than that.
It's just that BRL-CAD's geared for high-speed events as well as low-speed events in it's FEA work.
SolidWorks and ProE might be able to deal with it barely since they do FEA and other stuff like BRL-CAD does...
The DoD's been using this little package for some time as their modeling and engineering tool for the Ballistics Resarch Lab that is attached to the Aberdeen Proving Ground. This is the bunch tasked with improving our armored vehicles and improving our ammo to trash our opponents' vehcicles much more easily. BRL-CAD is the tool that they use to accomplish the modeling and simulation portions of this task.
It's on a par with SolidWorks and ProE and it's battle proven as it were. Like most Government projects of this nature, the Government is prohibited by law from making money off of it, so they've been allowing people to use it for free and provide their own plugins for it. Now, it's under various Open Source licenses instead of the one they'd used previously. Those in the defense industry know a LOT about this little program and if they're not using it, it's only because they couldn't mod the source code and it didn't do quite what they needed of it.
Think of a serious CAD package with things like Finite Element Analysis plugins. The rendering tool is just one of numerous plugins for this package.
Think somewhere in the class of Solidworks and ProE- the DoD uses this tool to run simulations of survivability on models of our armor and other people's.
Could you practice what you preach? Most titles don't have the "not able to skip the previews" issue and there's at least SOME players out there that, in fact, DO allow you to skip 'em. My comment stands- the grandparent post isn't really valid as there is evidence to the contrary. And, as for you, I can offer the same observation- pretty full of yourself there, eh? At least *I* posted with a real ID that can be tracked back to me. I stand behind what I say or retract it fully when proven wrong- the same can't be said of yourself.