logic. Most high schools don't or won't include logic in their curriculum and so logic's cousin mathematics has to serve double duty. So, if you want kids to be devoid of any experience with logic and even more irrational than they already are, then sure get rid of algebra.
It's the unintuitive ways in which it's taught (which in turn causes the societal alienation of the subject) that is the problem, not the fact that it's a requirement.
Mathematics is nothing less than the upmost tool of rationality. Lose it, and all progress decays.
I agree that most mathematics teaching sucks and that it is the utmost tool of rationality but it's not the utmost tool of understanding and I'm not convinced that rationality is more important than understanding. Rationality is pretty much useless when dealing with people. In fact pure rationality combined with a certain kind of monomania can lead to some pretty bad results.
This line of thinking could sure help Facebook's stock value.
Uhm... no. The more that Facebook is seen as something that you need to do (institutionalization) instead of something you do because it is cool, the less cool it will be. In fact this line of thinking may even make it cool to 'rebel' against the establishment (Facebook). This is how these social networking sites die. The cool kids leave first, everyone else follows soon after.
When I read the summary, I was expecting something a little more impressive than the picture in the article.
Okay, they did add some more windows. That's nice...I guess. But I'm pretty sure going to an asteroid or Mars is going to take something a little more substantial.
You do know that there are a limited number of geometries that are optimal for re-entry, right?
The U.S. made a mistake with Iran with that stupid "Axis of Evil" speech. I'm still not sure why that speech isn't recognized as one of the biggest diplomatic blunders in recent history. First of all, lumping Iran and North Korea in with Iraq (who Bush planned to invade) served no good purpose. It was basically an open threat to Iran and North Korea that we were going to invade them next. And, not surprisingly, both responded by ramping up their nuclear weapons programs to a feverish pace (since nukes are basically the only way to ensure that the U.S. can't invade).
Iran was actually getting pretty moderate before that speech, even sending open condolences and holding vigils after 9-11, with fairly moderate leadership. After the speech we get Ahmadinejad and and full-on nuke program. Smart move, George.
Agreed. But instead of being shunned for being the author of one of the most damaging speeches in American foreign policy history he gets a blog, a contributors spot on CNN, and gets to publish seven books.
I still don't understand this. We have the technology to do it, we have the people wanting to do it, and we have another group of people wanting to live and work there. Why don't we build a base on moon?
There would be no insects (I really hate those, but at least geckos take a good care of them!), and it would be a good base for our future discovery of new planets and solar systems. There ARE more there, earth is nothing special.
Is the United States incapable to do this? Does it take Russians, Chinese or Japanese to get there? What the hell happened to America?
Why bother? We know we can do it. I can't understand this obsession with space flight. What a waste of money. Maybe if there were a long-term plan besides just building a base and just sitting on the moon doing experiments it might be interesting. It'd be the ISS all over again. Can someone remind me why the world spent $100 billion on it again?
Gee, who would have thought that structure built by and for humans would have any similarities? I get the point that superficially they may appear different but it's not at all surprising they have something in common as they essential serve the same human need and humans are very similar.
You seriously fail to understand the differences between SOPA and CISPA.
You also fail to understand that the army of supporters you think is behind you just isn't there. SOPA got millions worked up because of the things that distinguish it from SOPA.
No I don't. You fail to be able to read. The only point of similarity is that the two exemplify the disdain for the public with which legislators and lobbyist propose legislation. SOPA is piracy and CISPA is privacy. I also never claimed to have millions of supporters. Now please go off and doing something useful like take some remedial literacy courses.
serve. Nice. Well, at least he's saying what he honestly believes. It's the same opinion the MPAA has. The major lesson learned from the SOPA debacle by the MPAA according to their lobbyist in chief is that they need to make sure to get tech. companies on-board. No mention of fatally flawed legislation; no mention of stupefying ignorance of how the internet actually works; no mention of the curtailing of the rights of the people. Nope, they just need to buy off the right companies and politicians regardless of right or wrong. Fuck the people. They are just chattel and serfs anyhow. They have no real power. That's the lesson learned. Well I hope it's the wrong one.
I felt like real people were real pissed and maybe we'd finally had enough of corporations shoving unfavorable legislation down our throats. But, it's hard to say. The problem is that sustaining that kind of scrutiny and passion is near impossible. So, the lobbyists might be right. Just wait until the "noise" settles down and then when the public falls asleep sneak the legislation in through the back door via some renamed seemingly unrelated bill. Sigh. How do we stop this madness?
I can't believe you want to continue this discussion. Do you just want to have the last word? Frankly, I don't care whether you believe me or not. And your interpretation is only obvious if one is a pedantic stickler for literal interpretations. I have satisfied myself that your comment is groundless and that's all that really matters to me. If you want the last word, go for it.
I was simply using college kids and teens as short-hand for people that have a lot of time on their hands (a non-age specific quality) and subsequently can put up with the rough edges of new products.
Yet no mention of retired or out of work people. You chose a young demographic for a reason.
Not especially and unless you really can read my mind (rather than simply claim to) and go back in time you are going to have to take my word for it.
I certainly will be "along for the ride" once most of the bugs are worked out.
You originally said, "The last thing I want is to be more plugged in."
Your pedantry knows no end. Again, "being too plugged in" is short-hand for being bombarded with non-essential information. I am sorry but what you are looking to prove is simply not true.I can see that what I wrote is ambiguous enough to be interpreted that way but it's simply not what I meant. It's a Slashdot post, not a published work. I think this discussion has provided me with some interesting self-reflection but I think it's hit the point of diminishing returns. Feel free to think what you like.
Yes and I answered him that he was mistaken. I was simply using college kids and teens as short-hand for people that have a lot of time on their hands (a non-age specific quality) and subsequently can put up with the rough edges of new products. I certainly will be "along for the ride" once most of the bugs are worked out. I have never been an early adopter (also a non-age specific quality). Thus, this whole little discussion was predicated on a misunderstanding. QED .
Well clearly I'm not amusing you because I'm not demonstrating what you are suggesting. So, you must be amused by your own false, pet theory. In which case you are like a person who laughs at their own jokes when nobody else gets them. Move along.
The fact that I did have the same attitude in college is proof that it is not age-based. My derisive comments about teens and college students is based on a general opinion about them that I also had in college. So, that opinion might be wrong or overly broad but again is not age-based. I am sorry you were offended by being lumped into that category but you haven't done much to change my opinion.
I've noticed that too. I wish I knew where they went so I could invest in the next bubble now.
I've been trying to figure that out myself for the very same reason.
There is zero proof in her claim. Why was this posted?
logic. Most high schools don't or won't include logic in their curriculum and so logic's cousin mathematics has to serve double duty. So, if you want kids to be devoid of any experience with logic and even more irrational than they already are, then sure get rid of algebra.
NO.
It's the unintuitive ways in which it's taught (which in turn causes the societal alienation of the subject) that is the problem, not the fact that it's a requirement.
Mathematics is nothing less than the upmost tool of rationality. Lose it, and all progress decays.
I agree that most mathematics teaching sucks and that it is the utmost tool of rationality but it's not the utmost tool of understanding and I'm not convinced that rationality is more important than understanding. Rationality is pretty much useless when dealing with people. In fact pure rationality combined with a certain kind of
monomania can lead to some pretty bad results.
This line of thinking could sure help Facebook's stock value.
Uhm ... no. The more that Facebook is seen as something that you need to do (institutionalization) instead of something you do because it is cool, the less cool it will be. In fact this line of thinking may even make it cool to 'rebel' against the establishment (Facebook). This is how these social networking sites die. The cool kids leave first, everyone else follows soon after.
The cool kids have already left Facebook.
will get flagged as a psychopath. Nice. What a stupid idea.
Well it's about time, puberty is officially recognized as a mental illness.
LOL. :-)
will get flagged as a psychopath. Nice. What a stupid idea.
inevitably Goldman will weasel its way out of it.
When I read the summary, I was expecting something a little more impressive than the picture in the article.
Okay, they did add some more windows. That's nice...I guess. But I'm pretty sure going to an asteroid or Mars is going to take something a little more substantial.
You do know that there are a limited number of geometries that are optimal for re-entry, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_entry#Entry_vehicle_shapes
They were referring to AmigaOS not x86.
Did you feel a little breeze in your hair? Yeah, that was the comment going over your head. He intentionally switched them up for effect.
The U.S. made a mistake with Iran with that stupid "Axis of Evil" speech. I'm still not sure why that speech isn't recognized as one of the biggest diplomatic blunders in recent history. First of all, lumping Iran and North Korea in with Iraq (who Bush planned to invade) served no good purpose. It was basically an open threat to Iran and North Korea that we were going to invade them next. And, not surprisingly, both responded by ramping up their nuclear weapons programs to a feverish pace (since nukes are basically the only way to ensure that the U.S. can't invade).
Iran was actually getting pretty moderate before that speech, even sending open condolences and holding vigils after 9-11, with fairly moderate leadership. After the speech we get Ahmadinejad and and full-on nuke program. Smart move, George.
Agreed. But instead of being shunned for being the author of one of the most damaging speeches in American foreign policy history he gets a blog, a contributors spot on CNN, and gets to publish seven books.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/davidfrum.html
the alternatives, invasion or air bombardment, it seems reasonable.
I still don't understand this. We have the technology to do it, we have the people wanting to do it, and we have another group of people wanting to live and work there. Why don't we build a base on moon?
There would be no insects (I really hate those, but at least geckos take a good care of them!), and it would be a good base for our future discovery of new planets and solar systems. There ARE more there, earth is nothing special.
Is the United States incapable to do this? Does it take Russians, Chinese or Japanese to get there? What the hell happened to America?
Why bother? We know we can do it. I can't understand this obsession with space flight. What a waste of money. Maybe if there were a long-term plan besides just building a base and just sitting on the moon doing experiments it might be interesting. It'd be the ISS all over again. Can someone remind me why the world spent $100 billion on it again?
If it stays at what it was priced. Frankly I think the price is high but the market says I'm wrong. I'm not sure why folks thought it would double.
Gee, who would have thought that structure built by and for humans would have any similarities? I get the point that superficially they may appear different but it's not at all surprising they have something in common as they essential serve the same human need and humans are very similar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Inquisitor
You seriously fail to understand the differences between SOPA and CISPA.
You also fail to understand that the army of supporters you think is behind you just isn't there. SOPA got millions worked up because of the things that distinguish it from SOPA.
No I don't. You fail to be able to read. The only point of similarity is that the two exemplify the disdain for the public with which legislators and lobbyist propose legislation. SOPA is piracy and CISPA is privacy. I also never claimed to have millions of supporters. Now please go off and doing something useful like take some remedial literacy courses.
serve. Nice. Well, at least he's saying what he honestly believes. It's the same opinion the MPAA has. The major lesson learned from the SOPA debacle by the MPAA according to their lobbyist in chief is that they need to make sure to get tech. companies on-board. No mention of fatally flawed legislation; no mention of stupefying ignorance of how the internet actually works; no mention of the curtailing of the rights of the people. Nope, they just need to buy off the right companies and politicians regardless of right or wrong. Fuck the people. They are just chattel and serfs anyhow. They have no real power. That's the lesson learned. Well I hope it's the wrong one.
I felt like real people were real pissed and maybe we'd finally had enough of corporations shoving unfavorable legislation down our throats. But, it's hard to say. The problem is that sustaining that kind of scrutiny and passion is near impossible. So, the lobbyists might be right. Just wait until the "noise" settles down and then when the public falls asleep sneak the legislation in through the back door via some renamed seemingly unrelated bill. Sigh. How do we stop this madness?
I'll let xkcd speak for both of us:
http://xkcd.com/386/
I can't believe you want to continue this discussion. Do you just want to have the last word? Frankly, I don't care whether you believe me or not. And your interpretation is only obvious if one is a pedantic stickler for literal interpretations. I have satisfied myself that your comment is groundless and that's all that really matters to me. If you want the last word, go for it.
I was simply using college kids and teens as short-hand for people that have a lot of time on their hands (a non-age specific quality) and subsequently can put up with the rough edges of new products.
Yet no mention of retired or out of work people. You chose a young demographic for a reason.
Not especially and unless you really can read my mind (rather than simply claim to) and go back in time you are going to have to take my word for it.
I certainly will be "along for the ride" once most of the bugs are worked out.
You originally said, "The last thing I want is to be more plugged in."
Your pedantry knows no end. Again, "being too plugged in" is short-hand for being bombarded with non-essential information. I am sorry but what you are looking to prove is simply not true.I can see that what I wrote is ambiguous enough to be interpreted that way but it's simply not what I meant. It's a Slashdot post, not a published work. I think this discussion has provided me with some interesting self-reflection but I think it's hit the point of diminishing returns. Feel free to think what you like.
Yes and I answered him that he was mistaken. I was simply using college kids and teens as short-hand for people that have a lot of time on their hands (a non-age specific quality) and subsequently can put up with the rough edges of new products. I certainly will be "along for the ride" once most of the bugs are worked out. I have never been an early adopter (also a non-age specific quality). Thus, this whole little discussion was predicated on a misunderstanding. QED .
Well clearly I'm not amusing you because I'm not demonstrating what you are suggesting. So, you must be amused by your own false, pet theory. In which case you are like a person who laughs at their own jokes when nobody else gets them. Move along.
The fact that I did have the same attitude in college is proof that it is not age-based. My derisive comments about teens and college students is based on a general opinion about them that I also had in college. So, that opinion might be wrong or overly broad but again is not age-based. I am sorry you were offended by being lumped into that category but you haven't done much to change my opinion.
Yeah, I had to say "no" three times the last time the person called.