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Facebook Abstainers Could Be Labeled Suspicious
bs0d3 writes "According to this article printed in tagesspiegel.de, not having a Facebook account could be the first sign that you are a mass murderer.(German) As examples they use Norwegian shooter Anders Breivik, who used MySpace instead of Facebook and the newer Aurora shooter who used adultfriendfinder instead of Facebook. They already consider those with Facebook accounts, who lack friends to be suspicious, but now they are suggesting that anyone who abstains from Facebook altogether may be even more suspicious."
I submit: https://www.facebook.com/dexter
(OTOH, I unfriended the account because disappointingly it wasn't even a little bit in-character)
Fuck you
While there may be overlaps, my understanding is the primary objective of FaceBook and Adultfriendfinder are not precisely the same. For example, it seems that many more photos on facebook involves clothing, and I am sure many of the people on facebook do not intend to have sex with everyone who friends them.
"She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
I submit that this sort of story is overblown.Yes, this is one out of hundreds of characteristics on a list. Just having one or even fifty from the list doesn't mean any individual has crossed the threshold of "suspicious". Everyone on /. should be familiar with this sort of thing from spam filters.
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That you are old.
They're a commercial enterprise making their money off profiting from the private data of others. I've had libertarians proclaim the company to be an example of the value of the free market, but I consider them an example of how a private company will manage to find something valuable about others and get money for it with a higher cost than you might realize.
Now maybe you consider the service Facebook provides worth it, but I consider the cost of being on Facebook not worth any service.
So...count me out of it. I could even be convinced to shut them down, though it would probably take some serious abuses before enough public support could trump the propaganda for it.
Breivik most certainly did have a Facebook account. He networked with anti-immigration and anti-Islam groups on Facebook. His address list for his manifesto was compiled from Facebook profiles that he had friended.
You know who else never used Facebook? Hitler!
This line of thinking could sure help Facebook's stock value.
Uhm ... no. The more that Facebook is seen as something that you need to do (institutionalization) instead of something you do because it is cool, the less cool it will be. In fact this line of thinking may even make it cool to 'rebel' against the establishment (Facebook). This is how these social networking sites die. The cool kids leave first, everyone else follows soon after.
Look where all this talking got us, baby.
...it's a single data point. It says something about the person, but I don't think you can reach very far into a person's psyche based on that alone.
Hmm well Jeffrey Dahmer didn't have facebook, Charles Manson didn't have book :O OMG!!!!!! Hmmm but Jesus didn't have book either ....... Glad pesudo science still rules!
So should I understand from TFA that I am a murderer waiting to happen?
Insanity helps Facebook's stock value. Summaries should always have a punchline.
Sorry, but I have no desire to have my personal information shared on FaceBook, nor do I care about the status updates of 'friends". I was on there, and deleted my account. I see no value in it. If people want to get ahold of me, they can text, email, IM me. If they want to know what I'm up to, they can ask or check out my website for info.
If that labels me as "suspicious" so be it. I have no desire to see Fuckerberg make money from his hodge-podge system.
It's either on the beat or off the beat, it's that easy.
I moderate therefore I rule!
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This guy has been circulating around the internet as the profile of the next mass murderer on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ld=2582718763
I've had a Facebook account for years. I've even made one for each of the little voices in my head, too :)
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everyone i know stopped using facebook 6 months ago, so everyone i know is a serial killer (like europe really has such a massive problem as the US has...)
75% of the worlds serial killers are Born in the USA...
Does the article have some more evidence than those two unrelated cases?
I'll admit the MySpace to Facebook comparison was closer. However ... comparing Facebook to AdultFriendFinder? Either I don't hang out in the "right" Facebook groups or this is total bull. They are not even close to interchangeable in purpose, audience nor function.
I suppose the reason I find the concept of this article sad is that we're moving to a place where instead of an expectation of privacy ... we now have an expectation of no privacy. I post photos, sure, and status updates and events. But I'm careful about the permissions on them and I don't post EVERYTHING nor will I. If that makes me suspect, well, I guess suspect me. But it -should- show I have a reasonable level of intelligence on what I keep private.
While I do use Facebook, I have a number of friends, neighbors and co-workers who do not. And I don't consider them suspect. Why would I? I don't go "oh, my neighbor is always frequenting that gaming site but refuses to use Facebook, he must have something to hide".
I also have a number of friends who either maintain multiple accounts (because they hate dealing with permissions) OR keep their account obscured so that you have to know that it is their account (different name, odd profile photo, different email account, etc). Purely because we ALL have people in our lives we don't want to know EVERYTHING. Is that the next step for being suspected?
Glass walls. You don't want them. At least not until everyone in power can give up their judgements about peoples' personal lives.
It is more productive to voice thoughtful opinions (reply) than to judge (moderate) others.
"not having a Facebook account could be the first sign that you are a mass murderer."
:P
All I can say to that is: "SIlence! I kill you!"
In all honesty, I don't want to be friends with anyone who live their lives on Facebook. I have a few friends who post photos there from time to time, I can live with that, but otherwise...
It seems funny to think people - who saw the intended application, the target audience, the main purpose and the negative properties of facebook-like sites, and decided not to be an active part of it - so so consider such people murderers or something equally bad.
Also, not being on facebook doesn't necessarily mean someone doesn't want to be out there, e.g. I know people who are on linkedin, but are not on facebook - so what does that mean? No, please, never mind answering that, I already have spent more time on this idiotic topic than I ever wanted to.
I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I can think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.
When I was recently looking for an apartment, potential roommates were consistently requesting that I friend them on Facebook so they could get a sense of who I am. I guess the thinking is if you have at least a couple hundred people willing to friend you, your not likely to be a mass murderer. Not having Linkedin also proved to be conspicuous when searching for a job. Absence of a Social Media presence is indeed now conspicuous. I had been avoiding all of it, but felt compelled to join. I'm now on FB, Twitter, and Linkedin. I'll also likely soon join pinterest and instagram.
SECURITY: I've got so many incidents of malware OR exploits of one form or another there being propogated there, that it's not even funny (over roughly the entire time of its existence nearly)!
Yes - I am talking literally to the tune of 200++ in that timeframe, & those are just the ones I managed to spot online reports about, AND, that are actually known!
I saw the same crap go down with MySpace too, which is why I avoided that as well...
(Thus, were I EVER to get "hassled" over it? I'd point those out & anyone sane would most likely agree with me on that much, since I value a computer that's "clean" & safe to myself, as well as others online OR otherwise!)
* Additionally - I think it's a GIANT "waste-of-time": Far worse than say, spending time on technical forums like this one (one of the BEST there is on the planet as far as news aggregation in the sciences & most importantly to me, the art & science of computing).
I've got enough "online presence" anyhow to mostly decent "acclaim" since 1995 onwards anyhow, so... there ya go!
APK
P.S.=> Lastly, I see MOST of my pals use it as a "pickup artist" tool to snag women... fine, but that comes with hassles too!
As men, you know the kind in money, energy, emotional hassles, & other 'trauma' I don't have the time or energy anymore to deal with, or to be honest about it, the looks I used to have as a younger guy - "been there, done that" thousands of times... lol!
(Sure, & yes, it can be + was pretty "fine & dandy" but that time's past for me since I am nearly 50 yrs. of age @ this time - too much of a "double-edged sword" for me on that account, but... to each his own)...
.. apk
I thought most parents teach their kids "don't give your personal info to strangers".
Remember, Zuckerberg's a stranger to your kids no matter how many free things (services) he offers them, just as much as some guy offering free candy from an unmarked van.
because I have a barebones Facebook account with almost nothing on it and I never use it. I think I created it some years ago so I could get tickets to a comedy club, or something. I do networking through LinkedIn and that's about it. I guess I'm a mass murderer.
What is suspicious here is the willingness of the writer to promote and sustain this conclusion. Worse, there is a tantalizing paucity of data regarding the 'normalcy' of Facebook use. We need to directly question these statements rather than post them and wait for more measured responses...or is this what passes for critical thinking in the internet age?
Wth?
What if you don't use ANY "social media" crap and you actually SPEAK to your friends..?
-- Counting backwards since 1984!
I have not and will not ever have a facebook account.
Lisa: "By your logic, I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away."
And I don't use FB, only LinkedIn - what does that make me? Potential murderer for hire?
If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
I don't have a myface, spacebook, twatter or giggle+ and i haven't killed anybody...yet.
I don't see the point of being on any social networking sites if i don't have a social life (sociopathy is entirely different to psychopathy by the way)
Many of my real-life friends have no Facebook presence because they have cleared software jobs and have been instructed to not have social profiles or blogs in order to maintain their clearance.
Just another clue that Holmes was a CIA asset.
It's really called Freedombook!
So using megadoses of peer-pressure to get everyone on Facebook isn't enough anymore... Now not being on Facebook is actually considered to be a serious clue that there is something seriously wrong with you? What a load of bullshit. What a load of bullshit. What a load of bullshit. ------ Many ordinary people who are smart about privacy do not put their lives on Facebook for a very good reason: Zuckerbook exists purely to make money, and cannot be TRUSTED with the details of your life, however mundane they may be. 3 cheers for everyone who abstains from Facebook for privacy reasons. Hip-Hip-Hooray. Hip-Hip-Hooray. Hip-Hip-Hooray. ------- End of message -----------
Why did the chicken cross the road? Because Elon Musk put an AI chip in its head.
I get funny looks all the time when I say I know all about FacePlace and consciously refuse to join.
My sister worked on me for months (we're both "old") to join before I finally got testy and told her under no circumstances would I join. I think she thought I just didn't understand it and just needed to be shown how wonderful it was. She was genuinely hurt by my reaction.
It's like belonging to a religion in many ways. True believers have trouble understanding how others don't share their beliefs; clearly they just need the right explanation to bring them around.
Just like the car commercial I go out and do things, with real people, not sit at my table cyber stalking 682 people at the same time watching dumb shit puppy videos. I also am not a 20 something living at my parents house and actually have work and responsibilities.
So tagesspiegel.de, fuck you, I have a life
Today's Dilbert is right on topic: SHHHH! It hears you. .
I don't like being packaged and sold as a commodity.
Here's to losing my Karma Bonus again....
tagesspiegel? is that german for "retarded"?
I think lacking any kind of social networking profiles probably could be part of an antisocial disorder diagnosis. I don't see why Myspace would be any worse than Facebook as long as you have active friends. Adultfriendfinder however probably does not count as social networking unless they have nonsexual forums and chat rooms. I would argue being active on Slashdot or Reddit discussions is social behavior. Not having any social network in real life or online is antisocial and a warning sign as antisocial tendencies have a strong correlation other issues.
I submitted a very similar story a week ago:
http://slashdot.org/submission/2173921/social-networking-the-dark-knight-massacre-and-the-missing-facebook
It was voted up to the highest entry in the queue for that hour, but then it was mysteriously deleted while lower voted articles made it to the front page. The direct link to my submission remains above, but it was simply gone from the queue, and everything submitted before and after it remained. If it had been down-voted, that's one thing, but it was up-voted and someone appears to have "made it disappear".
I know that the story CIA's 'Facebook' Program Dramatically Cut Agency's Costs was in the onion, but I would be surprised if the CIA did not tap into Facebook's data. Those of us who do not have a Facebook account must be a pain ... how to encourage us to tell the CIA^h^h^h Facebook all that they need to know .... how about make them feel worried that they might fall under increased suspicion ? Well: it will work with a few people, so a cheap and effective way of gathering information about more people.
According to Wikipedia, facebook is just shy of 1 billion users.
Furthermore, Wiki claims that the US census bureau estimates the world population at 7 point something billion. So, statistically speaking, 6 in seven people you meet are mass murderer.
Can we now put this non-story to rest?
Ah, so any mass murderer needs to get himself a FB account immediately, just to stay clear of such stupid generalisations.
You can't handle the truth.
I always knew my grandpa was a mass killer...
My mom is on Facebook, although I am not. I saw a story a few years ago about how this sudden increase in older people was hurting Facebook's cool factor and driving some of the younger people away.
I consider my self a pioneer in the use of computers but also modern. My experience covers the range from plug boards and punched cards to client-server networks and remote operation of PCs.
I do not participate in any social network. I have little interest in "friending" someone I never met face-to-face. I do not tweet. Now retired, I have no real use for LinkedIn. See my http://www.rossde.com/internet/surf.html#missing.
If that's what it takes to be(come) suspicious in the eyes of the 3- and 4-letter departments I'll be proudly remain suspicious!
"The likes of Facebook and WhatsApp are free to those whose privacy is of zero value."
Thanks for the utter bullshit, slashfags.
... most people making generalizations are likely making idiotic claims. Perhaps most mass murderers don't use fabric softener.
I started reading slashdot around summer of 1998, yet never bothered to sign up for an account. In fact, I hate signing up for things. I like keeping my life uncluttered. Makes it easier to focus on planning for my next killing spree.
don't serial killers use facebook to find who they wanna kill?
sorry but this is idiotic, i think you can ask any FBI agent and they will tell you that facebook is the number one location for serial killers to meet the people they wanna kill...
She's never had a computer in her life, and still has a rotary phone, and still grows her own chickens and vegetables, and has never had a credit card.
She must be a terrorist.
So because I refuse to submit to Facebook's non-friendly terms of agreement, I'll now be suspected of being a terrorist or something? Sounds like the same logic used to prove global warming is caused by the falling population of pirates.
>> While it is already established that sites like Facebook and google+ are no good for political activists Are you freakin' kidding me? #Occupy wouldn't be the same without Facebook. Now Google+, that's another story. I mean who wants to occupy a ghost town?
Like, not having sex with blonde and attractive girls could mean you are a child molestor? Or sex criminal? Or, noooo, god no, same sex disliker???
This is just more of this Reality TV society we live in. Unless you are spending all your free time being popular something is wrong with you. Here's a reality check, Facebook was started by a couple of unpopular nerds. How's that for irony!
Guess I'm on America's Most wanted at this point. I check my FB about once every couple of months, so I must be suspicious. The reason I don't go on? Nobody wants to chat. They get pissed when you try to talk to them because they're at work. WHY THE HELL ARE YOU ON FB WHEN YOU SHOULD BE WORKING!?!?
It is not that abstaining makes you any more dangerous.. its that abstaining means you arent part of the herd that can be easily monitored and controlled. To that I say.. (Jim Carrey voice) Scarahheewwww Yaahheeeewww..
Maybe a slashdotter without a Facebook account is practicing his mass murder skills on deleting stuff off the internet before moving on to deleting people! *gasp!*
As a native German I just read the German article, and have to say it was a quite a good article. It just said not leaving any traces online(Facebook, MySpace etc.) makes you look suspicous in the eyes of HR departments, and you will probably not get the Job, because you might try to hide something. It also quted Dr. Christoph Möller that being addicted to Social Network can deepen Basic Mental Health Problems and also strengthen fear. Dr. Möller also said that he DOES NOT believe that absence from the Internet can lead to mass murders as committed by Anders Breivik and the Shooter from Aurora.
tl;dr Basically the activepolitic.com article got it backwards.
Or else.
Follow the money -- look for some politician or politician's friend who recently bought a ton of Facebook stock at it's half-IPO price.
You don't think the big lawsuits against Taser corporation coming out the same week it went IPO were a coincidence, did you?
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
Heh, maybe.
I thought it was possibly because I'd submitted it as AC, but I'm not sure, because I've seen other AC submissions make it to the front page.
Or maybe I'm in a poisoned IP block, owned by a former spammer or something? I have no knowledge of that being the case, but since this "transparent removal from queue" has happened to me more than once, I'm starting to wonder.
Way back in the dark ages of online systems I was on BYTE Information Exchange, known as BIX. I was one of the unpaid moderator staff. A critter popped up online using hacked credit card numbers. He posted vitriol over much of BIX, especially some pet conferences he hated. He also attempted to, and did, damage BIX by posting little "love letters" to the woman members. Very few of us stuck it out. This lasted a full year with me getting emails about being raped, often with a knife, cut up and fed to his dog, and the like.
That has taken a toll. I don't care to go through that again. That is why I have adopted a relative anonymity style online. I cannot bring myself to join services that require I give up all my privacy so they can make billions and I can be stalked again.
Does that make me a psychopath or a victim?
I certainly feel like a victim who has declared "never again".
{o.o}
By the way, that would be over 6 billion people on that list.
You can't handle the truth.
Of course. Search this page for "He hates people".
True that, but your website isn't any less pathetic, to be honest.
Animated GIFs? Netscape? Square grey buttons from the 90s? And "60,000 bits" being considered a lot?
When did you update the site the last time?
Hint: Your kind of conservative backwards crazy is just as bad as the extreme digital bling social network crazy. :P
Why don't you just use plain old 7 bit ASCII plain text packets right over IP?
If I have the resources to have pretty graphics (which make things feel better) and communicate with friends instantly, I use them!
Doesn't mean I'm OK with spying or putting everything about you online... or with pointless Flash and GIF animations.
why would someone not want to join a site where all your friends are?
Because I graduated and lost my *@*.edu address before there was a Facebook.
Time to completely cancel my Facebook account. That's the final straw I needed. I considered it to be pretty worthless, but, that cinches it. Cancelled. Have fun watching all those IPO dollars go the way of mySpace! Eat it speculators.
...and I'll kill everyone who has a problem with that!
Facebook account - No
Twatter user - no way
UTube poster - You really are having a laugh aren't you?
Myspace ? - Is that still around?
LinkedIn profile - You have to be kidding.
I guess that I'm a mass murderer then....
Seriously, this is so sad. A very sad reflection of the '15 seconds of fame' that people have become obsessed with in this day and age.
I value my privacy. I have good reason to. I've had my identity stolen and it took me years to sort it out. Now I'm invisible on the internet.
Gotta go, the SWAT team is pulling up outside.
To me the web is a tool for research and shopping. I don''t feel the need to use Facebook. If you say something e,employers can fread it. More improtantly data miner who IMHO are the scum of the earth collect all your Facebook data. For being social on the internet and connecting with friends there are other services like instant messenger and online worlds to gather and discuses things in real time.
Side note, Deleteing my facebook really helped my cell phone battery.
--- Always remember. 99.36% of all statistics are inaccurate.
anyone who would make facebook a prerequisite for friendship doesn't sound like a very good friend
Sometimes you don't want a friend as much as you want an employer. The article made it sound like if you don't have an account on Facebook, you won't get any offers better than minimum wage.
There's a difference. The way I read COPPA combined with certain anti-anonymity proposals, it appears people MUST NOT use their real PII online until the thirteenth birthday, after which point the rule becomes that they MUST.
and if routine identity control on the street finds an abstainer then a deep cavity search should performed - who knows what such abstainer can hide there...
His/her privacy, for one (the horror!).
A Facebook abstainer could be a future mass murderer. And so could a Facebook participant.
A Facebook abstainer could be a saint and a scholar. And so could a Facebook participant (OK, that's a bit dodgy).
The whole thesis of judging people by whether they are on Facebook or not is ridiculous.
Out of 7 billion persons on this planet, let's say 4 billion are adults but not yet too decrepit to handle a PC or smartphone - i.e. of suitable age for Facebook. There are less than 1 billion Facebook participants (probably quite a bit less, due to fake accounts, etc.). So by a conservative estimate, 3 billion persons on the planet are Facebook abstainers, and therefore are potential mass murderers or something. Such an intellectually vacuous conclusion can only be reached by digesting utterly absurd bullshit.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
I mean not only is the total horse shit - it isn't even true (as it were), in the sense that such a proposition has to be predicated on "almost everyone" having an account - something that is BS.
It just shows how the echo chamber of online ideas leads to situations like this, where people end up believing that "almost everyone" would have an account simply because their world is centrered around the ecosystem.
I had a group convo a while ago on fb that was interesting for two reasons. 1. The very fact that the convo happened, as fb very rarely comes up in discussions - people just don't care much about it, and are more likely to email or text than center their lives around it. And 2, the fact that as the convo proceeded it was surprising how many people didn't have or rarely used it.
Honestly, move outside the 18-25 bracket and usage just dives - even if they have accounts, they don't use them. Facebook isn't a new google - the markets are starting to realise that - "tagesspiegel.de" should probably realise it as well
It's strange that a German publication would be so quick to make these sorts of suggestions. Did they learn nothing from the examples of the Stasi and East Germany? If the leaders of East Germany and the Stasi could have seen the Facebook of today they probably would have be green with envy. How else to describe billions of people willingly and naively participating in their own mass surveillance? To what sinister purpose might this information be put in the future? It's impossible to believe that the governments of this world, even those who claim to be democratic, will not be sorely tempted to acquire and misuse the information currently being gathered by the likes of Facebook. That's a pretty high price to pay, in my opinion, for keeping up with your friends. To those using Facebook: Have you not considered the long term consequences of what your doing? Are you nuts? Delete the Facebook account and pick up some good history books instead. You will see that history has not been kind to the gullible and the naive.
So if I don't play farmville I'm a suspect?
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To "blow you away", as I alway do - here goes:
"What are you talking about!?" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 29, @02:14PM (#40809437)
I said what I said, can't you read? I've got 200++ facebook exploits & examples of malware propogation of nearly all kinds from that site, thus, I avoid it based on that fact (over a timeframe of 2004-current/present day).
Pretty simple... of course, you're just *trying* to be the immature little trolling pest you are that I have doubtless "thrashed" a few dozen times when you used your registered "luser" account to try "take me on" here & failed... there's little doubt of that, & I enjoy the fact that I am stating that plainly here now, because it's SO obvious, lol!
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"You're the perfect example of a delusional psychopath who doesn't have a Facebook account." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 29, @02:14PM (#40809437)
Ahem - Have you:
1.) Performed a formal diagnosis of myself in a professional psychiatric environs to make your "insta-snap 'prognosis'" Dr. Quack (the "SiDeWaLk-ShRiNk" of /., lol)? No.
2.) Do you in fact have certification from an accredited school and years of professional practice to your name/credit along with in the field(s) of the psychiatric sciences?? Again, no...
(Thus, who are YOU to judge ME? Nothing more than an illogical ad hominem failing attack attempting troll...)
* As to being a scornful pest? Hey, look @ your trolling b.s. now...
(So please - do yourself & the rest of us a HUGE favor - Don't be the "pot calling the kettle black", you give yourself away like the trolling dolt you are!)
APK
P.S.=>
"Your "online presence" irritates and frightens people and your "acclaim" is actually "scorn"." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 29, @02:14PM (#40809437)
Well, as per my usual to "trash you"? The day you can show you've done MORE, better, & earlier than I have from this only small PARTIAL list of my favorites?? Is the day you can talk that way to myself:
"My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...
Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showth
My sister worked on me for months (we're both "old") to join before I finally got testy and told her under no circumstances would I join.
If only one testy can make you bold enough to speak your mind, imagine what both can do.
[Belonging to Zuckerbook is] like belonging to a religion in many ways.
That's a good illustration. "Why should I join the Church of Zuckerberg?"
This means people on LinkedIn are likely to be either career criminals or career businesspeople.
Or they may even have chosen an industry that satisfies both criteria - banking, politics, music production and so on...
I'll see your Constitution and raise you a Queen.
They hit the nail exactly on the head: Hitler - no Facebook account, Ted Bundy - no Facebook, Stalin - no Facebook, Mao - no Facebook, Lenin - no Facebook, Pol Pot - no Facebook, John Wayne Gacy - no Facebook, George W. Bush -- Facebook user, oh well there goes that theory.
From the articles, it looks like "suspect" is the less ambiguous term.
They're probably using something like a Bayes classifier and not having an FB account is just one of many features.
I don't know how reassuring this is, given that I neither have a Facebook account nor a mobile phone, and don't twitter either...
"Money is a sign of poverty." - Iain Banks
Sorry about the mistyped title.
"Money is a sign of poverty." - Iain Banks
Don't worry, they don't need to stop you to find out whether you have an account or not. They'll just read the nfc tag of your phone... And then they'll stop you.
"Trump!!", the new Godwin.
With apologies to Janice et al.
Oh, Lord, won't you buy me a color iPad?
My friends all use Facebook, I must not feel sad,
Worked hard all my lifetime, now I can't get a job,
These twitters from Facebook, all think that I'm bad,
So, Oh, Lord won't you buy me a color iPad?
Srsly, TFA is the kind of inane tripe that passes for news anymore?
-That you are an IT expert who knows better than to trust technology.
-That you are aware of the numerous times that Zuckerberg's account has been attacked.
-That you learn from the mistakes of others who ruin their lives by posting something stupid.
-That you value your privacy.
-That you do not appreciate being monetized.
-That you are not so insecure in your friendships that you need to seek out validation.
-That you do not want to make it any easier for a government to oppress you.
... we will have to hand over Facebook account password just to get past airline security. What? No Facebook? Under arrest!
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
They can't get everyone to have their boarding pass and id out before the security checkpoint. You think we'll jump right to confirmation of facebook membership with matching credentials via NFC?
Only SHEEP use facebook!
...who have no "social network" acounts at all.
Warning: this article may contain humor, sarcasm, parody, and perhaps even irony. Read at your own risk.
We already noticed it when we wanted to book a holiday apartment in Norway and were asked why we do not have a facebook account.
Schweet, another GREAT reason to nuke my FB account
I'll store it with my Pet Rock and mood ring......
You mean 'conspicious'?
"Trump!!", the new Godwin.
I've been doing this all wrong!
Fear Me Bitches!
For I have no Facebook!
The Captcha says: behead - How does it know?
Those with or those without FB accounts?
Adultfriendfinder instead of Facebook?! Are those really considered to fulfill equivalent niches?
That's like saying 'He uses K-Y Lubricant instead of WD-40'.
- For the complete works of Shakespeare: cat
um, "A implies B" does not mean that "B implies A."
mass-murderer -> oddball
no-facebook -> oddball DOES NOT IMPLY mass-murderer...
Those with unusual behavior have traditionally been victims of society and law. Use logic- drink the Hemlock, tell people to love God- get nailed to a cross, tell people that global warming is real- get isolated, write a decent TV show - it won't be seen.
Even genetics has this tendency. Pull towards the center model is a measurable genetic fact. For example two very intelligent parents will usually not produce a child even more intelligent than they are. The child will tend to be closer to average intelligence than his parents. If two dull parents have a child the child will tend to be brighter than the parents. It is as if nature itself hates anyone that is not usual in the herd. It explains why gay kids get picked on and also why black folks don't do as well in the US. They are a minority and therefore more distant than the model of the center of the herd. Laws do not really come close to dealing with this sort of problem and may never be able to do much to improve things.
The following statements are not equivalent 1) The probability of being a mass murderer conditional on not having a Facebook account, is higher than the probability of being a mass murderer conditional on having a Facebook account. In the language of statistics, not having a Facebook account 'predicts' being a mass murderer. 2) A person who does not have a Facebook account will definitely become a mass murderer. 3) The only reason a person would choose not to use Facebook is because they are planning mass murder, or because they are anti-social. 4) Employers should be able to ask potential employees for their access to their Facebook page. If you disagree with (1) because you disagree with (2), (3), or (4) then you are engaging in a logical fallacy.
With the new increase in ads, and the fake "activity" postings which are really advertising, Facebook is definitely pulling a Myspace. Facebook was cool once. No longer.
I have Facebook apps turned off, every Zynga property blocked, "comments and likes" disabled for everybody but a few close friends, and Do Not Track Plus installed. And still, more than half the content on Facebook pages isn't about what my friends are actually doing.
(With Facebook tracking blocked, Facebook's ads go random and turn into generic spam. I'm getting spam-like subjects such as "Precious metals giveaway", dating ads aimed at men, a weight-loss ad aimed at women, and some cheap plastic iPad accessory. Blocking Facebook's tracking breaks their revenue model.)
Stop generalizing you idiots.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Historically someone who behaves differently than everyone else could be labeled suspicious. It's how those in control suppressed rebelious thoughts. It's the same reason why the masses generally concider scientists to be suspicious.
I wish slashdot would exert some editorial control over the attention whoring idiots with nothing substantive to say.
So I must be one of those lurkers ready to explode into violence, but then if I google my real name I find ALMOST NO references. Paranoia has its benefits...
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
Facfuck buy tagesspiegel.de any way?
In this brave new world, everybody except politicians, bankers and billionaires are "suspicious"!
I killed da wabbit -Elmer Fudd
In the Soviet Union, if you weren't a party member, then you would have been labeled an enemy of the state. Does anybody smell a dictatorship coming here?
if free market is supposed to be able to solve every problem, why do i still need to scratch my balls?
There are many good reasons for not having a Facebook account. Many people don't understand the risks associated with Facebook.
"Facebook Follies is a one-hour documentary that takes a look at the unexpected consequences of people sharing their personal information on social media."
http://www.cbc.ca/doczone/episode/facebook-follies.html
Sorry, the full episode is available for online viewing only from Canada.
I refuse to participate in that clusterfuck circlejerk analprobe that is Facebook.
If Slashdot were chemistry it would look like this:Cadaverine
People that still don't have a facebook account deemed less suspicious than those that signed up after reading yesterday's /. article.
I consider my self a pioneer in the use of computers but also modern. My experience covers the range from plug boards and punched cards to client-server networks and remote operation of PCs.
I do not participate in any social network
Even slashdot? Or usenet?
Overlooking the crucial part.
That's one of the first symptoms. (And I won't even mention adultfriendfinder.)
Closed my Account yesterday because FB takes up too much time (and I was only going in every 2 - 3 days). Accounts get tagged and spammed and FB does nothing about it. Now there is a Article saying I'm suspicious. Yes things are getting weird and scary! SIN
Eat sandwiches.
Do you eat sandwiches? You must be a mass murderer.
and in modern america that makes me 'very suspicious', doesn't it?
ASK ME IF I FUCKING CARE.
I just don't. I really don't care if you think I'm a bad guy or good guy. I don't live for your approval and I don't need it.
consider me suspicious all you want. I know I'm in good company, at least.
--
"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
After years of work the first edition of the compendium “2083 – A European Declaration
of Independence” is completed. If you have received this book, you are either one of my
former 7000 patriotic Facebook friends or you are the friend of one of my FB friends. If
you are concerned about the future of Western Europe you will definitely find the
information both interesting and highly relevant.
Source : 2083 – A European Declaration of Independence page 4
PS I don't have a Facebook acount and have a copy of Breivik's manifesto ... I should be flagged as higly suspicious ;-)
I dumped Failbook months ago; come arrest me for mass murder, you fucking morons! I've never heard such utter nonsense in my entire life! You may as well claim that ingesting saliva in minute amounts over a long period of time causes death!
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
Fuck You! Several of my family members don't own computer, and would have no idea how to even turn one on! So, please explain the logic to me behind this idiocy.
That's some totalitarian shit, for real!
I guess comrade Stalin and the Khmer Rouge would've loved this era of ours!
Really, some people in the intelligence community are just losing their minds...
Main difference between the BSD license and the GPL license: one is from California and the other is from Massachusetts
I read it and thought "Well, fuck me... "
If I'm not a customer of a particularly large corporation, then I'll be investigated by the police?
I'm not a good citizen if I don't use a certain service?
What if I don't drink coke, I don't use windows, and I don't buy prada? Is that suspicious too?
Part of /etc/hosts in my computer:
127.0.0.1 hotmail.com
127.0.0.1 facebook.com
127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com
127.0.0.1 live.com
127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1 platform.twitter.com
127.0.0.1 www.twitter.com
127.0.0.1 twitter.com
127.0.0.1 plusone.google.com
Social anything is bullshit. I don't need big corporations to track who I speak to. Why am I expected to have 200 friends? Anybody that says they have more than a handful of friends doesn't really understand the meaning of the word friend. Acquaintances, buddies, coworkers ... sure. But friends? Quite a different thing. So, why would I publish my life online so that anybody can find out about it from the comfort of their homes? I don't hide my activities. If you want to know anything about my life, it's enough to call and ask. But publishing them is altogether a different thing.
Ultimately, my rejection of social.* isn't because I'm a privacy nut. My google account is tied to just about every service they have, and they've run my email since 2004 or so (I got my account very early in the invite-only era of gmail). My company's mail goes through google for your domain (now google apps). It's not tracking that bothers me the most, it's just that I find the whole concept of the social web stupid. If I'm interested in knowing something about you, I'll call you and we'll catch up over a beer. I don't need twitter or facebook or whatever. The reason I block everything is it just pisses me off how they creep around you and stalk you all the time into creating an account.
So, yeah, Fuck facebook, fuck twitter, fuck myspace, fuck google plus, and fuck every other asshole doing anything labeled social. Leave me the fuck alone.
WTF am I doing replying to an AC at 5 A.M on a Friday night?
What a load of hogwash, as we British tend to say ;-)
Having a low Slashdot user number.
The alternative to limited government is unlimited government.
In a world with over seven billion people and only eight hundred million facebook users, we have six billion two hundred thousand "suspicious" characters. I'm sure most of them are not in the US. Perhaps we should also make more ridiculous claims here. I have one. If you do not speak English, you are a communist. If you are not white, you are an "enemy combatant". If you are a Muslim, you should be sent to Guantanamo. Tell who ever wrote this to put some stem cells in a petri dish and grow neurones!
Oh I know this one! (Satire coming!)
http://www.realultimatepower.net/ninja/ninja2.htm
Hi, this site is all about ninjas, REAL NINJAS. This site is awesome. My name is Robert and I can't stop thinking about ninjas. These guys are cool; and by cool, I mean totally sweet.
Facts:
1. Ninjas are mammals.
2. Ninjas fight ALL the time.
3. The purpose of the ninja is to flip out and kill people.
Therefore:
1. All mammals are Ninjas and Homo Sapiens are a subset of mammals
2. The purpose of Ninjas is to flip out and kill people
3. Therefore all homo sapiens are murderers that flip out and kill people!
My first Journal Entry ever, in 8 years! http://slashdot.org/journal/365947/aphelion-scifi-fantasy-horror-poetry-webzine
My Facebook account is under a fake name, set to unsearchable and "private" every way FB will let me do it.
I don't tell anyone related to a job that I have a FB account.
If they ask, I tell them the half truth that I deleted my FB page a few years ago when they started exposing people's info without asking.
I refuse to join the herd using FB or other similar sites. The reason I abstain is because I have a background in information acquisition and distribution. FB is first and foremost a data collection service that hoped to make money on selling every bit of information they collect until a few folks started asking questions. The gradual clamp down on FB's plans for ignoring user privacy has been the single biggest factor in the slide of their stock: intelligent folks understand that data sales is what FB hoped to make most of its money from and not advertising. I have worked with companies developing "apps" for FB that are meant to glean as much information from users as possible to be compiled and sold to a wide range of interested groups including political parties & PACs. The goal is to gain every bit of information one can because until you have that data you do not know if it is useful or not.
Free thinking is a crime
Especially when it limits the power of your corporocratic rulers.
Why would you hide from such benevolent voyeurs?
You clearly don't believe in what they're selling, your thoughts are not theirs and
You are dangerous.
One of the few people I know who doesn't have a facebook account is a Special Agent with the FBI and one of the least likely people I could imagine who would go bonkers.
They come in the dark, only in the darkest.
Facebook claims to have 800 million users. That means 6.1 billion serial killers are out there!
OMG! That is brilliant! I mean it, "Facebot" is now (c) 2012 ultranova !
I wouldn't want anybody to think I'm a murder too. Such blistering nonsense...
I always thought I'm suspicious.
I didn't reenter the gun club and the ham radio club precisely because radios and guns are just the stuff of revolutions (I learn't that in school). To no avail, when I went to London when some idiot caused a bomb scare my luggage still got rerouted to the US and I got it back with a bloody TSA bandage, like I have to fly over the US when travelling directly from Germany to the UK.
Now, because of my German heritage and my security awareness I got from living with the Stasi for some time I joined Diaspora (halfhartedly, because I don't need layers and layers of crap) instead of Facebook, and now the idiots are labelling me unsafe!
I have effectively done what my government didn't explicitly ask me for, but I knew that a totalitarian regime would like to see me do.
What else do they ask of me, do I have to choose a low energy density lifestyle that includes subsistence farming and some non-agressive belief like that of some south-east-asian countries. Amusingly some of my idiotic fellow citizens in Catholicistan (also called Bavaria by some) are calling them Buddhist swine - what a joke.
Well, for a society with a massive looming energy problem and some financial fallout already on the map we are behaving predictably erratic.
I suppose I have to just let it wash over me, at some point the maddening screams of the mass media will stop, slashdot included.
Je me souviens.
Back in '03 I was blackballed for being too old. My loss...yeah...that's it... a loss.
Imagination drew in bold strokes, instantly serving hopes and fears, while knowledge advanced by slow increments...
Gee, thanks for posting this in every article. Do you have anything on hosts files and GNAA membership, or should I wait for APK?
DATABASE WOW WOW
the next new and shiny website to come along will get the migration of users. Are they going to arrest everyone citing suspicious behavior at this happens?
Is there a Facebook account from anyone from North Korea? I wonder what the first North Korean Facebook account is gonna be? The Supreme Leader?
Now, wouldn't that be funny as fuck?
UPDATE! Kim Jong-Un has a tweeter account! http://twitter.com/groriousreader
Main difference between the BSD license and the GPL license: one is from California and the other is from Massachusetts
mod parent up!! never mind it is already at +5
My friends have my email address and so do all intel agencies and they know a hell of a lot as I dont use encryption. .. the day I have to. the bare minimum and no assholes you do not get insight into who I am and what I do. I'm private and your public knowledge of me ends at the broad stupid smile I'll beam into your cattle faces. For everything else you need to be intel or bug my house.
I have no need and no energy or time to maintain a facebook page. If I was ever forced to have one, fine it will be bare minimum and all lies. Why should I tell anyone what kind of furniture I own? Why should you care what I drive? What is it anybody's business who my friends are and what I do on the weekends.. I don't want to share and I'm picky who I give my time to. Oh I'll put up something average, a legend and a bag full of utterly believable lies
I recruit people for low to mid six-figure positions frequently.
When we have two otherwise equally qualified clients and one
has a Facebook account, the other client gets my recommendation
because the absence of an account indicates discretion and superior judgement
the person with the Facebook account lacks based merely on the fact that they
have an account in the first place.
I guess it comes down to the fact that we would rather hire suspicious people than idiots.
Laugh if you want, it's the truth.
If you're not watching online porn, you're obviously hiding something. "They" should break down your doors and see what you're up to.
Oh great, Using fear to politically motivate people.
Please use common sense, don't get a fucking facebook account, instead block it.
Legal thoughts of the day. .de eh?
Good thing that fucking magazine is in
Zerohedge thought of the day,
Facebook investors could be labeled as "fucking Muppets" also, ya think?
valued at 50 billion, 800 billion, heh. They have the same fucking value as myspace (bands) or yahoo (RIP Geocities websites)
If I were to ever sign up for a Facebook account again, it would only be if Facebook paid me money to do it. They profit off the ads I'm shown and the information I share. Since that information about me has real marketable value, I feel entitled to a portion of it. So if you aren't paying me, GET OFF MY LAWN!
My response to this assumption is "F*ck You, Sir". i am not interested in facebook, myspace, or any other "social networking" sites.
My grandmother then must be the next Hitler (or Stalin who killed many times as more) because she doesnt use any of them.
Come to think of it neither do I.
Just more proof that 99.8% of the internet is moronic rubbish.
I had something like 400 friends on Facebook. Then I all of the sudden deactivated my account with a lot of people bitching, including my father, who has nothing better to do than to sit on Facebook all day. Honestly, it got old. I am joining the ranks of those that are of the "I don't want to hear about your baby and how absolutely wonderful your life really is".
I truly feel that Facebook has ruined ALOT for many people. It has destroyed marriages, relationships, and more importantly life in general. People take things too literally on the site, and you run the risk of offending people every step of the way. Either way, to come full circle, my dad keeps begging me to turn it back on, and quite frankly, I say give me a phone call.
Nice way to try to force everyone into a convenient central database, at no cost to governments, isnt it?
I had (past tens) a fb account
I had it when fb was still brand new (back in 2004/2005 or so)
I logged on fb but didn't feel I liked that place, so I stopped going to fb altogether
It had been 6 or 7 (or 8) years (I lost count) I last visited fb, and I do not missed it, not even a bit
Am I qualified to be a terrorist now?
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
1991 called, they want their website back.
Since not everybody and not every company has the resources of the FBI, let alone the US spook agencies, there's a very real danger of Facebook becoming the mass markert equivalent of profiling. Sure, we geeks can always cry "Fuck you!" when we read news like this but we'd only be shooting the messenger. Look around you, this is already happening. The solution I fear is to get a Facebook account and fill it out with fluffy lies, prerably with pictures of your mom and dad (but proabably not your little sister), and smiling girlffriend. Or you can try that Other Social Networking site with a real name policy if you want to maintain a semblance of Geekiness.
My wife used to have a FaceBook account, and she gave it up two years ago. Am I about to end up on the 11 O'clock news saying "she's not that kind of person", "she would never do such a thing", or "I just can't see her doing that" ?
A correlation of 2. Nice
how come 'don't take the internet seriously' never crossed your mind?
And this is new how? alt.tasteless vs. rec.pets.cats? alt.fan.karl-malden.nose? Please - nothing new here. Mere distractions to keep us from sending postcards to Craig Shergold. He needs our support...
"Fear is the rootkit of democracy.." Blarkon
also, your PC gender terminology suggests you've been brainwashed too.
> suggesting that anyone who abstains from Facebook altogether may be even more suspicious.
facebook is jewish founded and owned and jews are beasts, because of what they do to the palestinians and because of their hatred of Jesus Christ, the King of Heavens. Christians who refrain from fb are refusing to carry the 666 sign of the beast on their foreheads and forearms.
Being German.
I don't have a facebook account, mainly because I neither want a potential employer judging me based on it, nor demanding my login. I also don't wish to have my information sold to whoever facebook is making deals with that week, as they change privacy policies.
All my friends are in their late 30's and early 40's. I guess we must all be on the most wanted list, I think one guy has a facebook page that was only created to test one of the proxies at work and the rest of us have no interest in social media at all. Think I better wear a bullet proof vest to cards tomorrow night just in case!
Hitler did not have a Facebook account either, and look how it turned out. The fact that it was reported in a German newspaper - coincidence? I think not!
of the corporo-government surveillance program.
Or to deprive US corporations from their right to own the "content" representative of our lives.
Not that I blame the government or the corporations, they're just doing what comes naturally to them.
Now, the rest of you that use FB, etcetera, I have nothing but contempt and ridicule for the rest of you, you bunch of fucking stupid clones, YOU are what's wrong with the world.
This, or something like this, is inevitable.
There are certain technical requirements for taking part in society and punishments can be severe.
For example: I suspect that a parent in the U.S. could be considered "unfit" for not having any kind of phone. Well, maybe that on its own wouldn't be damning, but it would be taken into consideration in a custody battle.
Tom Geller
I'm perfectly OK with people not using Facebook. But creating it should be made criminal - if it hadn't grown so powerful that politicians now only see it as a source of campaign contributions..
Have people forgotten that its a PRODUCT? It was built to make money, same as a chevy or a big mac. How can it be looked upon as abnormal not wanting to buy a product from a specific company? Are you abnormal if you don't have an iPhone? No? If you don't have a mobile phone? Yes? Really? Is conforming to the majority really that important? Have we become fascists?
These product were not available just a few years ago and now you are considered dangerous just because you don't buy them!?!? I must quote a famous professor on this one: "I don't want to live on this planet anymore..."
My Grandmama refuses to get a Facebook account. I always knew there was a sinister twinkle in her eyes. Should I report her to TSA or FBI or CIA or DHS? I feel bad reporting here, but she could be a serial killer or terrorist or murderer. I loved her so much, too. I sure will miss here cookies and ice cream and pie. Poor Grandpapa, he'll be so lonely while Grammy is doing time. I just realized, Grandpapa doesn't have a Facebook account either! OMG, this is very serious.
I'm pretty into social media and yet I don't have a Facebook account. This is for two big reasons. First of all, I'd have to use my real name on Facebook and I have a pseudonym I use on social media. I don't want that pseudonym tied back to my real name. (This is one reason why I quit using Google+.) Secondly, I have limited "social media" time. I have a day job and do freelance work at night (to say nothing of spending time with my family). I'd rather do one or two social media platforms well than spread myself over a bunch and struggle to keep up.
My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
actually, I want to say the opposite of the title, but the reasoning is similar to the gun control debate.
With gun control there is the defending perception that guns don't kill but people do. There's a valid point there, but there's another one to counter it: if all you have is a hammer, every problem becomes a nail, namely the availability and prevalence of a pattern, will mean it will be used much more often.
One can defend the system of profiling people and compiling databases with scores, where not having a facebook account increases your score with one unit, posting anonymously with another unit and so on. The database is just an assistance, there should be a person making the final decision. Of course that person should understand that not having a facebook account is by itself not enough reason to consider them a terrorist. Of course facebook is a weak indicator, there is only a weak correlation with terrorism. That is not a problem in profiling.
But what happens in the real world? You get this database with scores, and it all doesn't mean very much but if you have a score of 10+ (you also listen to RATM, +1, read alternet.org , +1, have been critical of foreign policy, +5) and hey they're not accusing you of anything, but somehow at the airport you have to meet the softspoken man with the rubber glove , and if you don't like that, that's 5 points extra and you end up on the noflylist. The officers at the airport could allow you through, but the people who made the database must have known what they were doing, and it's all the information that they have on you, and it would be discriminating if they let some people pass and others not when they have the same score.
So profiling can be counterproductive. And as always, it can be played to make the ratio of false positives worse than with random approaches. Now you know that if you have a certain plan, make sure you have a facebook account so as to keep your score down.
Hah! This guy I used to work with showed me that. All he could remember from it was "biggest blackest boner". So he's at work, and googles for "biggest blackest boner" and gets in trouble.
You know, the one they put you on for not behaving like a good citizen in every thought and deed. WtF?!
Well, this is the same bunch who were "suspicious" of the Jews, the Poles, and of pretty much anybody who wasn't a blue-eyed blonde. Here we go again. Sigh*
Lock up all those shifty senior citizens!
"I consider my self a pioneer in the use of computers but also modern"
Wow.
"My experience covers the range from plug boards and punched cards to client-server networks and remote operation of PCs."
Just wow. Dear God, are you Steve Jobs?
..was actually very sophisticated. If they had a CommieBook, they surely would have applied all sorts of Signals Intelligence Methods. Some say that the MfS was actually on the same level of competence as NSA was then.
Just because ordinary people did not have much access to computers did not mean the state did not have access to such technology.
See
http://www.manfred-bischoff.de/ha_iii.htm#HA%20III
Also, Stasi cryptologists were recycled after the breakdown of the GDR, as their high competence was deemed very valuable. They now work for Rhode&Schwarz, a commercial arm of the German government.
What is Facebook?
I have dozens of them. All fake, all friending the others to some extent as well as with a number of real people. I've even staged 'fights' between accounts.
Many of my real-life friends have no Facebook presence because they have cleared software jobs and have been instructed to not have social profiles or blogs in order to maintain their clearance.
There you have it... All IT workers with a security clearance are potential mass-murderers.
A facebook account indicates you are willing to have a corporation know every detail about your life, and are interested in a constant flow of trite and meaningless information.
It helps identify sheeple, who are more likely to be harmless politically.
From the land that brought us, "Papiere bitte."
Facebook Users Could be Labeled Superficial. Always found people who used Facebook to find and maintain friendships to be severely flawed in their emotional and mental development. More depressing, there's 7 million of them. Post doesn't deserve full sentences.
One year ago I dumped my facebook account. I deleted all my posts, all my photos, all my friends, renamed my name to a fictitious name, and closed the account. The problem is when you close the account it's still there so that's why I went through the hassle of deleting everything. WHY? I'll tell you why. I've been married to my wife for 26 years. She's awesome, she's my best friend too. A Girlfriend I had before I met my wife found me on facebook, next thing you know an old circle of friends found me. My youngest son's gf was also posting questions to her friends, I was also a friend. The post said "should I pierce my nose" ? Me being the way I am said "hell no, you have a cute little nose. a piercing would make you look like a skank."... well.. maybe skank means more than it did in the 80s. My youngest son and his gf was upset with me so I said you know what ? Enough of this crap. I was using fb to share photos of 4 wheeling with my Jeep and stuff, I don't care to know what everyone is up to. And if my sweet wife read what the old gf posted out of context, she would get upset. So I deleted everything. It's been a year now and no more fb notifications! I prefer to keep it that way. My son's gf never got her nose pierced, in the end she agreed that her nose is too cute. And it turned out her dad said something similar to what I said. She's still with my son. I feel relieved that the old GF can't find me. I never posted my true street address, only the region I live in, that is all.
Who?! Who does not want to wear the ribbon?!?
The TACA or the "Thought and Conformity Agency" want you to have a Facebook account, if you don't have Facebook you just might be the boogeyman, or a thought terrorist! Get your Facebook account today and avoid suspicion and persecution.
yeah. here we go again. is time to nuke Germany . now!! instead of waiting till they start shit again. and YOU know they will, judging from their past actions.
The most dangerous people are below suspicion. That's why they're so successful. I'm tired of being forced to conform to Facebook. They can suck my ass.
i have this pdf file containing the whole psychological assessment of Breyvik. I forgot where i got it, i don't even know if i'm supposed to have it but if anyone would like to see it maybe i can post it somewhere. It's in german, lengthy, and a little more in depth than how not using facebook is the trait of a potential killer (should i delete this?) If i should please do it for me
Free speech was meant to be free for all... how can anyone grow up in a nanny state ?
Never understood why anyone uses Facebook. Their continual changing of privacy rules, and their sheer incompetence are reasons enough not to trust them.
Then again, I haven't bothered with MySpace or Google+, either.
http://www.inc.com/eric-markowitz/facts-of-facebook-ipo-filing-that-will-boggle-your-mind.html
FB is evil, and it's users are stupid assholes.
Don't be a stupid asshole.
I think security is the correct word. With the personal information gleaned from Facebook, it is much easier to stalk someone in real life, it is also easier to steal identities, it is also easier to harass people. I'd say those problems fall under the 'security' topic.
"I was arrested and questioned on suspicion of being a violent lunatic."
Goes with...
"Hitler was trying to kill me" - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6541343.stm and my commuter train route goes straight past Olympic Park. ...except I've genuinely used that one already :/
They don't need *everyone*, just a lot. And they also could hack your bluetooth so you won't even know it.
"Trump!!", the new Godwin.
No, there is not. It's just a silly semantic trick.
People kill people? Yeah, using guns.
Knowledge is power; knowledge shared is power lost.
No it's not a semantic trick, it's about assigning all the responsibility to the individual and none to the environment, or in other words, it's taking two 'pure' instances and making them representative prototypes for the whole discussion:
- a person very much motivated to commit murder will do so even if access to guns is made difficult
- a person who does not want to kill will not do so even if there are plenty of weapons around.
So your view is that those who don't conform to the forced "norm" are bad people in so many words? Why don't you go back to communist Russia. It's people like you that keep me off facebook.
Anders Behring Breivik was on Facebook (YES, Facebook), and had around 600 friends. He was a very active social media user. Facebook closed down his account when he was arrested, and the Norwegian police have made contact with Facebook to have them recover the profile for investigation. Facebook claims the data is erased and unrecoverable. I know this very well, I am Norwegian and have read thousands of news stories on the subject.
wouldn't not having a facebook and all these other social media sites make you MORE appealing to an employer? i mean if you don't have a facebook, linkedin, and twitter you obviously won't be spending company time on these websites, thus spend time actually working.