Hello Mr. Obvious! 2 years ago 802.11 was mucho expensive (even $5000-$1000!; nice backwards price range). Someday maybe people will even have *CABLE* TV! Or digital viagra.
Yeah, I worked on that project for a bit. 4 phones, 1Mbps data, something like 100 minutes of continental US long distance phone, all for about $150 a month.
They were having problems in the DSLAM to long haul bandwidth. That link was a DS-3, I believe. They were considering upgrading the links to OC-12 or OC-48. Big cost jump.
Unfortunately, I have to agree with most of this. Please now read my full post before freaking out.
US national news broadcasts are utter shit (some local news casts are ok). US pop culture (most tv, music, and movies) is utter shit. This is because society runs on a Bell curve, so you tailor your media to the biggest group possible, which just happens to be at the middle point. This means you are not getting many "advanced" ideas.
Next, computers and the 'net are fairly new to the mainstream public, and the majority of the people who frequent entertainment/interactive sites are fairly young. (No, I have no proof, no stats, just a rough feel of what I just said. Argue if you want.) As I've aged over the past 7 years, the amount of time I've been on the 'net, the average post has devolved in overall knowledge. It seems that everyone is an expert in something (which is good) but focus so narrowly on something that they miss a larger picture. And their political views verge on the ludicrous- I have come across some who think that Communism should be tried again! Of course they missed the whole USSR/cold war thing.
Enough ranting. Mods can blast me to hell for all I care, I spoke my views.
Personally, I think Google is the only site (besides/. defying Microsoft) that has the balls to challenge current stupid laws. Millions of people like Google, and will probably pony up $2 each to support it. Big $=good lawyers = strike down these stupid fucking laws we already have.
The more info that is published, the more that this crap is pushed into the public, the more that idiot laws are examined, the sooner that these ass monkey laws will be struck down.
Or so I hope.
Assuming that the topic title is correct, then GO GOOGLE! Fsck the DMCA, RIAA, and MPAA, baby! Let me buy my stuff (legally), and back it up. [For the record (before I'm called a theif), I have never downloaded a single song or movie that I didn't already own.]
Why the fuck do people think that market value mean anything? Do you understand that market value means #shares times $share cost? If Microsqeaky releases 1000x shares as Sony, it doesn't mean that they have that money in hand. It means that their 1 billion shares = whatever, while Sony's 1 million shares = whatever. Neither company has any control over that money unless they own some of those shares.
I think tomorrow I will IPO my dog tickling business at 10 trillion shares at $1 each. Wow, I am now the richest person in the world!
Or better yet, I'll sell investment advice to people like you....
This is where you call the lawyers in. I was just pointing out a few common and easy to explain situations. I have no idea about the house party scenario, but the bar probably has to pay royalties to whichever organization collects those fees, since a bar is a place of business and therefore public.
Except for those books that I buy from the used/discounted section that I would never buy at full price, and then go buy a bunch of books by that author because I found out I like him/her.
Recent case in point- I picked up a book called "The Ice Limit" by 2 authors. Same guys wrote "The Relic" and "Riptide". Ice Limit was so freaking good I went and 3 more of their books at full price becuase I liked their stuff so much. (Review- Ice Limit was great, Riptide was merely very good, haven't finished Relic yet)
I'm guessing that most people (who read a lot) buy used books to try out new authors rather than wait around to get a used book by a favored author. I buy every Clancy and Dennis McKiernan (spelling might be off; he did a great job of taking Tolkien's universe and changed it slightly to produce a great serious of books. Check him out.) book as soon as I now that they have been released.
To wind down this windy post, I think that once again an industry is making a big fuss out of a certain method of legal distribution.
A second Washington monument has appeared overnight. The second one is round, but of similar dimensions to the original monument.
President Bush was quoted as saying "Cool! Bungi jumping!"
Former President Clinton was quoted as saying "Yep, almost lifesize! Now THAT'S a legacy, baby!"
More on topic- this impresses me less than the concrete boats the military used in WWI (I think). I can understand blasting concrete around, but my mind just can not wrap itself around a big hunko concrete actually floating. Of course, iron/steel would also be a non-starter if I didn't grow up with it as the standard, probably.
What power or authority does the RIAA have that they can fine an individual or company? Being an industry association, what legal power does that give them? Suing in the courts is one thing, but fining and negotiating settlements is another.
No, all of your examples are considering private. If you charged for admission then you get into the realm of public performance.
If you set up in Central Park and played a bunch of music on a big rig (something more than just a boombox that someone may overhear) and then show a couple of movies from a projector on a bed sheet, that is a public performance.
If you are listening to music on the street or in the office and people overhear it, no infringement. If you rent a flick and invite 20 people over to watch it, that's not infringement.
If you charge people for the above, that is infringement.
If you disseminate the material, ala storing MP3s on a server, or display a movie in a public venue like the side of a building or in Central Park, then you are infringing.
Or do what I did- stop buying music. And no, I don't download music, either. When in the mood I just listen to my collection of CDs all bought pre 1994.
I know I'm the oddball here by actually boycotting something, but we all do our little bit.
I'm totally with you, except for a minor deviation with Amazon. Maybe I've bought a lot more stuff from them so they have me better targeted, but at least 90% of their suggestions to me are good. Problem being that at least half of their suggestions are things that I already have, but purchased at the local Barnes and Nobel, so they can't filter those items out.
But yeah, any ad that may have ever piqued my interest was always followed by independent research (well, for anything over $20 at least. I'll buy a book on an interesting ad sometimes.)
Bad example- you just cited a list of conditions (new line, support, performance, etc.), where marketing is normally more about distorting reality. Anyone in charge of buying servers would be smart enough to look around at all the major vendors before buying.
Now management and ads..... but management pretty much only understands dollars and Microsoft.
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Hello Mr. Obvious! 2 years ago 802.11 was mucho expensive (even $5000-$1000!; nice backwards price range). Someday maybe people will even have *CABLE* TV! Or digital viagra.
I didn't see this, but if I missed it, sorry.
It is a fucking piece of fiction!!!!!! Let's have Pepsi sue Tolkien's estate for not including Pepsi ads in Middle Earth.
Don't movies always have that "Everything in the film is totally fictional, no matter how much it looks like your Uncle Ed"?
I wonder if I can sue reality for including me without my permission?
Yeah, I worked on that project for a bit. 4 phones, 1Mbps data, something like 100 minutes of continental US long distance phone, all for about $150 a month.
They were having problems in the DSLAM to long haul bandwidth. That link was a DS-3, I believe. They were considering upgrading the links to OC-12 or OC-48. Big cost jump.
It really was a very cool service.
DBS- Digital Broadcast Satellite
Unfortunately, I have to agree with most of this. Please now read my full post before freaking out.
US national news broadcasts are utter shit (some local news casts are ok). US pop culture (most tv, music, and movies) is utter shit. This is because society runs on a Bell curve, so you tailor your media to the biggest group possible, which just happens to be at the middle point. This means you are not getting many "advanced" ideas.
Next, computers and the 'net are fairly new to the mainstream public, and the majority of the people who frequent entertainment/interactive sites are fairly young. (No, I have no proof, no stats, just a rough feel of what I just said. Argue if you want.) As I've aged over the past 7 years, the amount of time I've been on the 'net, the average post has devolved in overall knowledge. It seems that everyone is an expert in something (which is good) but focus so narrowly on something that they miss a larger picture. And their political views verge on the ludicrous- I have come across some who think that Communism should be tried again! Of course they missed the whole USSR/cold war thing.
Enough ranting. Mods can blast me to hell for all I care, I spoke my views.
Personally, I think Google is the only site (besides /. defying Microsoft) that has the balls to challenge current stupid laws. Millions of people like Google, and will probably pony up $2 each to support it. Big $=good lawyers = strike down these stupid fucking laws we already have.
The more info that is published, the more that this crap is pushed into the public, the more that idiot laws are examined, the sooner that these ass monkey laws will be struck down.
Or so I hope.
Assuming that the topic title is correct, then GO GOOGLE! Fsck the DMCA, RIAA, and MPAA, baby! Let me buy my stuff (legally), and back it up. [For the record (before I'm called a theif), I have never downloaded a single song or movie that I didn't already own.]
Why the fuck do people think that market value mean anything? Do you understand that market value means #shares times $share cost? If Microsqeaky releases 1000x shares as Sony, it doesn't mean that they have that money in hand. It means that their 1 billion shares = whatever, while Sony's 1 million shares = whatever. Neither company has any control over that money unless they own some of those shares.
I think tomorrow I will IPO my dog tickling business at 10 trillion shares at $1 each. Wow, I am now the richest person in the world!
Or better yet, I'll sell investment advice to people like you....
God damn idiots....
I was going to say that! Damn you! Damn you to hell!
:-)
[snarfle]
You should have gone "Deliverance" on him....
This is where you call the lawyers in. I was just pointing out a few common and easy to explain situations. I have no idea about the house party scenario, but the bar probably has to pay royalties to whichever organization collects those fees, since a bar is a place of business and therefore public.
Just call me Cletus!
Not a lawyer, just passing on what little knowledge I have, the best I can.
That was the nicest comment I've ever got on /.
Thanks!
Except for those books that I buy from the used/discounted section that I would never buy at full price, and then go buy a bunch of books by that author because I found out I like him/her.
Recent case in point- I picked up a book called "The Ice Limit" by 2 authors. Same guys wrote "The Relic" and "Riptide". Ice Limit was so freaking good I went and 3 more of their books at full price becuase I liked their stuff so much. (Review- Ice Limit was great, Riptide was merely very good, haven't finished Relic yet)
I'm guessing that most people (who read a lot) buy used books to try out new authors rather than wait around to get a used book by a favored author. I buy every Clancy and Dennis McKiernan (spelling might be off; he did a great job of taking Tolkien's universe and changed it slightly to produce a great serious of books. Check him out.) book as soon as I now that they have been released.
To wind down this windy post, I think that once again an industry is making a big fuss out of a certain method of legal distribution.
But what do I know, I'm merely human.
Concrete is an exothermic process (gives off heat, and a good bit of it). Could he have been burned by heat, not the chemicals?
"Up to crotch"... ouch
A second Washington monument has appeared overnight. The second one is round, but of similar dimensions to the original monument.
President Bush was quoted as saying "Cool! Bungi jumping!"
Former President Clinton was quoted as saying "Yep, almost lifesize! Now THAT'S a legacy, baby!"
More on topic- this impresses me less than the concrete boats the military used in WWI (I think). I can understand blasting concrete around, but my mind just can not wrap itself around a big hunko concrete actually floating. Of course, iron/steel would also be a non-starter if I didn't grow up with it as the standard, probably.
Yeah, this story is the same as on MSNBC, except for the layout is less good.
less good?
Would you prefer "more bad"?
What power or authority does the RIAA have that they can fine an individual or company? Being an industry association, what legal power does that give them? Suing in the courts is one thing, but fining and negotiating settlements is another.
Any ideas?
No, all of your examples are considering private. If you charged for admission then you get into the realm of public performance.
If you set up in Central Park and played a bunch of music on a big rig (something more than just a boombox that someone may overhear) and then show a couple of movies from a projector on a bed sheet, that is a public performance.
No, wrong.
If you are listening to music on the street or in the office and people overhear it, no infringement. If you rent a flick and invite 20 people over to watch it, that's not infringement.
If you charge people for the above, that is infringement.
If you disseminate the material, ala storing MP3s on a server, or display a movie in a public venue like the side of a building or in Central Park, then you are infringing.
Or do what I did- stop buying music. And no, I don't download music, either. When in the mood I just listen to my collection of CDs all bought pre 1994.
I know I'm the oddball here by actually boycotting something, but we all do our little bit.
I'm totally with you, except for a minor deviation with Amazon. Maybe I've bought a lot more stuff from them so they have me better targeted, but at least 90% of their suggestions to me are good. Problem being that at least half of their suggestions are things that I already have, but purchased at the local Barnes and Nobel, so they can't filter those items out.
But yeah, any ad that may have ever piqued my interest was always followed by independent research (well, for anything over $20 at least. I'll buy a book on an interesting ad sometimes.)
Bad example- you just cited a list of conditions (new line, support, performance, etc.), where marketing is normally more about distorting reality. Anyone in charge of buying servers would be smart enough to look around at all the major vendors before buying.
Now management and ads..... but management pretty much only understands dollars and Microsoft.
Personal information given to a company in a private transaction is not a "public forum", methinks.
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