Everybody knows that you guys, the people actually doing the work, have nothing to do with this and most likely pay due diligence to ensure any FLOSS software remains clean and unecumbered by copyright (easy) and patent (almost impossible) issues.
But at the end MS do not care about that. They know the patent system in the US is broken and they will try to milk it for all what is worth, they have the money to do so, and lose they will, but that does not mean it may not be painful.
If software was not patentable this would be a non issue, you and anybody in the IT industry, should get of their asses and tell your bosses that it is time to buy ^H^H^H lobby politicians to ensure software patents are outlawed as the aberration they are (programming is a fomr of speech, but needs to be done because machines are stupid and we need to explain to them our inner thought about how to solve a problem).
I can see only parasites and monopolists benefitting from the current state of affairs, but since politicians will never do anything about it from their own volition, the responsibility is on IT companies to do the necessary, as it is becoming ever more clear that software patents are a hindrance to anybody trying to make a decent buck out of software, propietary or otherwise.
There is absofuckinglutely no reason whatsoever to have real record of clients in a laptop.
Most situations that require access to data of clients can be covered by remote access tools over a VPN of some kind so you only get back to you a display and nothing else.
Putting confidential data in a laptop is relying on one key or password in order to access the data, you are making it easier to steal the data for any interested parties by removing physical restraints to access the data, you could as well open your datacentre to anybody that wanted access....
"El que con leche se quema, hasta al jocoque le sopla" (burn your mouth with hot milk, you will blow even to ice cream, or something like that).
Can't remember an English saying but the point is that Ballmer is declaring his intent in no uncertain terms, that means unfortunately, that the good code byt the geeks working for Novell will have to be treated from now on with suspicion.
Sorry guys, it is not your fault, but frankly your bosses screwed up this one big time.
Patents are so broad that you will infringe, no matter what you do. And even in situations when you don't infringe, a company with enough patience (SCO), money (you know who) or both can make your life hell.
Repeat after me: software patents are idiotic.
THe only wise course of action for Novel in the current litigous climate would have been to start talks with other companies in order to lobby for the complete abolition of software patents. For any decent company innovating in the field, copyright protection should be the only means to obtain advantage of any product created.
You guys chose the very worst path: appeasement of the bully.
You rightly deserve to be shunned and to become a pariah.
... will be told by his ISP how to configure a *good* MUA to use their server.
Or will be told by his employer to turn on the computer and click the mail icon.
If a noob want to do the work of a system administrator, all the power to him, learning is always interesting, but it is completely unnecessary to configure a half decent email client (MUA if you know what I mean).
That is the exact analogy in regards to http protocol.
The respective RFCs made a clear differentiation between MTAs and MUAs for a good reason (you know, reinventing the wheel is lots of fun, but if it has been done before, why bother?).
-With Pine you can use regular expressions to filter your messages, -Pine is immensely more efficient handling high volumes of messages (the time Outlook uses to start when you have a few thousends of messages, lets say after a holiday, is ridiculous compared to Pine, which just get going).
And as for the groupware functionality, you can use both applications in parallel, Pine for what it does well (felxible email management), Outlook for groupware features. Each tool perfomrming an small taks and doing it well.
Oh wait, you use Outlook, sorry, you would never understand...
You have been using inneficent gas guzzlers and driving like there is no tomrorrow. That costs.
You keep your heating running no matter what during the winter and your aircon 24 hours per day in the summer. That costs.
You keep buying the greatest and latest gadgets, without regard to if you need it or not. That costs.
Not few people have 2 or 3 houses in the US middle classes. That costs.
I could go on, but hopefully you get the picture. Blaming the disparity of incomes in an "uneven" field is completely disingineous when clearly the profilgate lifestyle most USians follow are rendering them uncompetitive in some fields. You should be looking closer at home when dealing with why you are not competitive and stop blaming others (even if you may have one or two points there).
You assertions that USians have to drop in "level" (whatever that is) is complete nonsense. If you want to compete you may (you will) lower your expectations. That may vary from accepting jobs that pay a bit less (no, you don't need a PS3, an Xbox and a Wii) to losing you job and never ever getting one again doing the same.
Well, guess what, is the way it has always been and it is the way it will always be.
An USian whinning about free markets is one of the most disgusting things to contemplate. The country itself was in no small measure founded as a response to British commercial restrictions and also if there is a country that has benefitted from international commerce is the US.
Every idiot and their dog could post something saying "my bank is the greatest thing since sliced bread was first buttered".
Since they are providing no evidence and most likely they have none (unless you work in the bank you can't really vouch for their internal security procedures), they only safe assumptions to make is that they are a shill or talking out of there where the Sun sines rarely, if ever....
That is the point that many guys around here do not understand.
The markets have not starred and atripped flags strapped around them, even if the market is made of US consumers.
One should support markets as a matter of principle if you think that economy is not a zero sum game (which by now can be taken as almost a scientific certainity).
If jobs go away from the US you are getting new potential costumers with more money in their pockets. There is a new oporutnity there were there was none before...
"Shortages and surpluses of labor are normal -- and powerful -- forces in a free market"
or is it
"many Republicans favor big agri-businesses and claim that the American economy will be irreparably damaged unless Washington allows illegal aliens to pick fruits and vegetables. Many Democrats favor ethnic pressure groups like La Raza and make an identical claim."
So are you for the market? Or for state intervention?
If you are pro market, how do you justify artificial scarcity in the labour market by not facilitiating foreign workers's access to that market?
You get so embroiled in your arguments that do not realize the amount of contradictions you are ejaculating in you senseless posting coated of pseudo sensible gibberish.
The different ways people organize to be served is different in different places. That has nothing to do with good manners and personal responsibility. In many places in Asia you have to gently elbow your way to the front of a queue, in Mexico you touch people in the shoulder so they move aside if you are in a rush.
As for your tirade about Socialism, it is ridiculous to the point of contempt.
People in Europe do not fear Socialism because it is seen as the ultimate sign of individual responsibility: to empower a government that will tax you for the benefit of all.
People in the US don;t understand that, which is OK, bu do not tell me that the narcisistic lifestyle of many USIans (specially in big, cosmopolitan cities) is more responsible (at least from a social point of view) than the people in the Scandinavian countries which are happy to part with half their salary if that means everybody gets a fiar share or a communal social security net.
Tell us, how is life without healht insurance in the US?
There are facts that not even the most ardent Turkish Nationalist disputes:
- More than 1 million Armenian were forcefully removed from their homes. - They all were killed.
Where you get this idea that Turks don't accept the above as fact would be interesting to know.
After this it is all a matter of semantics, but the facts are hardly disputed as you are trying to imply. The current Turkish orthodoxy is that such calamity was an event of war, not an organized holocaust.
But facts at these, that shame a nation, take some time to emerge, but emerging they are, and many leading Turkish intellectuals are hammering the point home, because facts exist and can;t be ignored.
Funnily (if such a word has place here) enough, Ataturk and the people that replaced the Ottoman Empire in power had no qualms to denounce Turkey's actions once they gained power, it was politicians after Ataturk that felt somewhoh Turkey's image was tarnished, most likely after relizing how many similarities they were with an holocaust of bigger numerical proportions.
- It has nothing to do with the topic at hand (traffic signs, remember?). - It makes an idiotic comment inciting raging responses (which is fine, it is part of the fun, but it should be classed accordingly so it can be filtered).
And finally slamming any proto Nazis is not supressing freedom of speech. For the German people is a matter of self preservation.
I am sure you don't know there are Muslim countries without Sharia law and even one that is secular (unlike the UK that has an official state religion).
Why bother wtih the facts when spreading falsehoods is much more fun?
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There are geeks high enough in the food chain in most companies that understand the issues at hand.
Everybody knows that you guys, the people actually doing the work, have nothing to do with this and most likely pay due diligence to ensure any FLOSS software remains clean and unecumbered by copyright (easy) and patent (almost impossible) issues.
But at the end MS do not care about that. They know the patent system in the US is broken and they will try to milk it for all what is worth, they have the money to do so, and lose they will, but that does not mean it may not be painful.
If software was not patentable this would be a non issue, you and anybody in the IT industry, should get of their asses and tell your bosses that it is time to buy ^H^H^H lobby politicians to ensure software patents are outlawed as the aberration they are (programming is a fomr of speech, but needs to be done because machines are stupid and we need to explain to them our inner thought about how to solve a problem).
I can see only parasites and monopolists benefitting from the current state of affairs, but since politicians will never do anything about it from their own volition, the responsibility is on IT companies to do the necessary, as it is becoming ever more clear that software patents are a hindrance to anybody trying to make a decent buck out of software, propietary or otherwise.
It is great to have a teenager doing interesting things, the bunny knows most of them should be doing so.
But it really should not be newsworthy since so many other people are pointing out, it is something not really new.
There is absofuckinglutely no reason whatsoever to have real record of clients in a laptop.
Most situations that require access to data of clients can be covered by remote access tools over a VPN of some kind so you only get back to you a display and nothing else.
Putting confidential data in a laptop is relying on one key or password in order to access the data, you are making it easier to steal the data for any interested parties by removing physical restraints to access the data, you could as well open your datacentre to anybody that wanted access....
"El que con leche se quema, hasta al jocoque le sopla" (burn your mouth with hot milk, you will blow even to ice cream, or something like that).
Can't remember an English saying but the point is that Ballmer is declaring his intent in no uncertain terms, that means unfortunately, that the good code byt the geeks working for Novell will have to be treated from now on with suspicion.
Sorry guys, it is not your fault, but frankly your bosses screwed up this one big time.
I don't understand why it is modded dow so badly.
The only nitpick is that MS has not won in the EU.
They are in the brink of being fined big time.
Patents are so broad that you will infringe, no matter what you do. And even in situations when you don't infringe, a company with enough patience (SCO), money (you know who) or both can make your life hell.
Repeat after me: software patents are idiotic.
THe only wise course of action for Novel in the current litigous climate would have been to start talks with other companies in order to lobby for the complete abolition of software patents. For any decent company innovating in the field, copyright protection should be the only means to obtain advantage of any product created.
You guys chose the very worst path: appeasement of the bully.
You rightly deserve to be shunned and to become a pariah.
You can use Pine for USENET.
But most people no longer know what USENET is.
... will be told by his ISP how to configure a *good* MUA to use their server.
Or will be told by his employer to turn on the computer and click the mail icon.
If a noob want to do the work of a system administrator, all the power to him, learning is always interesting, but it is completely unnecessary to configure a half decent email client (MUA if you know what I mean).
That is the exact analogy in regards to http protocol.
The respective RFCs made a clear differentiation between MTAs and MUAs for a good reason (you know, reinventing the wheel is lots of fun, but if it has been done before, why bother?).
Sorry for any email client not supporting smtp from the start is damaged goods.
What does it support instead then?
-With Pine you can use regular expressions to filter your messages,
...
-Pine is immensely more efficient handling high volumes of messages (the time Outlook uses to start when you have a few thousends of messages, lets say after a holiday, is ridiculous compared to Pine, which just get going).
And as for the groupware functionality, you can use both applications in parallel, Pine for what it does well (felxible email management), Outlook for groupware features. Each tool perfomrming an small taks and doing it well.
Oh wait, you use Outlook, sorry, you would never understand
You wanna know why you are overpriced?
You are fat. You are overeatting, and that costs.
You have been using inneficent gas guzzlers and driving like there is no tomrorrow. That costs.
You keep your heating running no matter what during the winter and your aircon 24 hours per day in the summer. That costs.
You keep buying the greatest and latest gadgets, without regard to if you need it or not. That costs.
Not few people have 2 or 3 houses in the US middle classes. That costs.
I could go on, but hopefully you get the picture. Blaming the disparity of incomes in an "uneven" field is completely disingineous when clearly the profilgate lifestyle most USians follow are rendering them uncompetitive in some fields. You should be looking closer at home when dealing with why you are not competitive and stop blaming others (even if you may have one or two points there).
You assertions that USians have to drop in "level" (whatever that is) is complete nonsense. If you want to compete you may (you will) lower your expectations. That may vary from accepting jobs that pay a bit less (no, you don't need a PS3, an Xbox and a Wii) to losing you job and never ever getting one again doing the same.
Well, guess what, is the way it has always been and it is the way it will always be.
An USian whinning about free markets is one of the most disgusting things to contemplate. The country itself was in no small measure founded as a response to British commercial restrictions and also if there is a country that has benefitted from international commerce is the US.
Every idiot and their dog could post something saying "my bank is the greatest thing since sliced bread was first buttered".
Since they are providing no evidence and most likely they have none (unless you work in the bank you can't really vouch for their internal security procedures), they only safe assumptions to make is that they are a shill or talking out of there where the Sun sines rarely, if ever....
That is the point that many guys around here do not understand.
The markets have not starred and atripped flags strapped around them, even if the market is made of US consumers.
One should support markets as a matter of principle if you think that economy is not a zero sum game (which by now can be taken as almost a scientific certainity).
If jobs go away from the US you are getting new potential costumers with more money in their pockets. There is a new oporutnity there were there was none before...
Is it:
"Shortages and surpluses of labor are normal -- and powerful -- forces in a free market"
or is it
"many Republicans favor big agri-businesses and claim that the American economy will be irreparably damaged unless Washington allows illegal aliens to pick fruits and vegetables. Many Democrats favor ethnic pressure groups like La Raza and make an identical claim."
So are you for the market? Or for state intervention?
If you are pro market, how do you justify artificial scarcity in the labour market by not facilitiating foreign workers's access to that market?
You get so embroiled in your arguments that do not realize the amount of contradictions you are ejaculating in you senseless posting coated of pseudo sensible gibberish.
The different ways people organize to be served is different in different places. That has nothing to do with good manners and personal responsibility. In many places in Asia you have to gently elbow your way to the front of a queue, in Mexico you touch people in the shoulder so they move aside if you are in a rush.
As for your tirade about Socialism, it is ridiculous to the point of contempt.
People in Europe do not fear Socialism because it is seen as the ultimate sign of individual responsibility: to empower a government that will tax you for the benefit of all.
People in the US don;t understand that, which is OK, bu do not tell me that the narcisistic lifestyle of many USIans (specially in big, cosmopolitan cities) is more responsible (at least from a social point of view) than the people in the Scandinavian countries which are happy to part with half their salary if that means everybody gets a fiar share or a communal social security net.
Tell us, how is life without healht insurance in the US?
... that can learn a handful of English words in order to drive a car.
Our brain size must be smaller or something.
Oh wait, which language is this?
Never mind.
There are facts that not even the most ardent Turkish Nationalist disputes:
- More than 1 million Armenian were forcefully removed from their homes.
- They all were killed.
Where you get this idea that Turks don't accept the above as fact would be interesting to know.
After this it is all a matter of semantics, but the facts are hardly disputed as you are trying to imply. The current Turkish orthodoxy is that such calamity was an event of war, not an organized holocaust.
But facts at these, that shame a nation, take some time to emerge, but emerging they are, and many leading Turkish intellectuals are hammering the point home, because facts exist and can;t be ignored.
Funnily (if such a word has place here) enough, Ataturk and the people that replaced the Ottoman Empire in power had no qualms to denounce Turkey's actions once they gained power, it was politicians after Ataturk that felt somewhoh Turkey's image was tarnished, most likely after relizing how many similarities they were with an holocaust of bigger numerical proportions.
- It has nothing to do with the topic at hand (traffic signs, remember?).
- It makes an idiotic comment inciting raging responses (which is fine, it is part of the fun, but it should be classed accordingly so it can be filtered).
And finally slamming any proto Nazis is not supressing freedom of speech. For the German people is a matter of self preservation.
I am sure you don't know there are Muslim countries without Sharia law and even one that is secular (unlike the UK that has an official state religion).
Why bother wtih the facts when spreading falsehoods is much more fun?
I know you jest, but still.
Really? Shame you did not have a couple of minutes to back that one up.
What the fuck are you doing? Oh wait, your are an AC, you don't even show your fucking face and stand for your opinions.
Oh Well...
Shall we need say anything more?