with real effort for a real result taking real skill and real investment by real people.
Well, it's only "imaginary damage" if you consider people not giving you money (their own money that you never once owned) and instead copying things without permission to be harm.
You want them to spend a few million dollars making something cool for you to watch
Even if that's what I wanted (I barely even watch movies), I certainly wouldn't want the money to go to these scumbags who think they're entitled to government-enforced monopolies over ideas. These people despise the free market.
All interpretation aside it says congress shall pass no law etc etc.
Yes. And there are laws that congress passed. The government violations the constitution; what else is new?
I'm not American so I don't really give a shit but it says shall pass no law, not send no thugs.
I was talking about the purpose of it. That is the purpose. Congress can't (doesn't have the legitimate authority to) make laws that infringe upon people's freedom of speech.
Almost the same effect, basically, and with other constitutional amendments, the first amendment can be extended to other areas of government as well.
That's utterly preposterous and defeats most of the purpose of the first amendment. Using that logic, the government can come and punish you for saying something it doesn't like so long as they don't "censor" you. No, the purpose (what it should do and what it says) of the first amendment is to prevent government thugs from harassing people for their speech. Period.
You speak in opposites now? In reality, you're worshiping me as if I'm a god. Now, I'll force your sloppy asshole to suck on my fetid cock like a baby sucks on a pacifier! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh! That's simply too good! I guess it's time for me to fill your fictionhole with creamy goodies right this minuteness...!
Wow! Your rancid asshole is now a swimming pool for my cockpoles! What a sloppy asshole. What say you?
Doing nothing is a choice, and you may want to think you're choosing to support freedom, but you're actually choosing to deny the freedom of the victims of bullying and harassment
I'm not denying any important freedoms to these victims. Getting government thugs to harass others because you were hurt by their words isn't a fundamental freedom.
Your nobility is a false one.
Far less so than people who want to infringe upon others' right to free speech 'for the victims.' You remind me of the 'for the children' crowd.
In 1952, a little boy named Jimmy was having a jolly good time playing on the abandoned railroad tracks just past the backyard of the property he lived on. Being that he could not go anywhere without his favorite blanket, he also, unsurprisingly, had that with him. After a few hours, Jimmy noticed that it had gotten awfully foggy out, and he could no longer see more than 20 feet in front of him.
Jimmy, frightened by this sudden change, decided to head home. While walking past the shed in his backyard, Jimmy spotted a strange teddy bear that he'd never seen before propped up against the tree behind his shed. He noticed that it was waving at him, and, with his blanket covering his head, began to walk faster. It became difficult for Jimmy to move properly, and he couldn't move any faster than he was moving now; this frightened him even more.
Jimmy then heard something creeping up behind him; he instinctively knew it was the mysterious teddy bear. Given that it was walking considerably faster than him, Jimmy gave up all hope of running away and decided to go on the offensive! He turned around and used his blanket to smack the teddy bear away from him. However, after that happened, Jimmy was thrown about 10 feet into the sky by an unseen entity, and upon landing, he bounced around on the ground a few times by making himself flail like a fish.
Once Jimmy stopped bouncing around, he immediately noticed that something was amiss; he felt a strange object sitting directly under his precious ass. Even though most of his body was not sitting on this object, the rest of his body stayed at the same height as the area that was sitting on top of the object, as if his body was a piece of wood. Being a sharp lad, Jimmy was quickly able to determine that the object his butt was sitting on was, in fact, the teddy bear!
Seconds after realizing this, he heard the teddy bear say, in a small infant's voice, "Like, tsk, owie!" The teddy bear's voice sounded like an echo, as if it was talking in a very small, enclosed space. Following this, Jimmy heard a "vvvvvvvvvvvv" sound, followed by the teddy bear being sucked right up Jimmy's snappyhole as if it were a mere spaghetti noodle! While it was being sucked up, Jimmy noticed that the part of the teddy bear that was currently being sucked up would get smaller so as to fit inside his precious snap.
Jimmy, no longer able to move, began panicking. All of a sudden, Jimmy's brain was filled with information that he had never come across before. Jimmy knew, from that point on, that his ass was becoming something completely different; his ass was becoming a rumblehouse ass! That teddy bear was going to use Jimmy's ass as a bouncehouse!
Jimmy began screaming, rolling all over the ground, and punching random objects. However, he realized his protests were futile when the teddy bear began bouncing off of the sides of Jimmy's ass and inflicting tremendous amounts of tickle upon it! Each time the teddy bear bounced off of the sides of his ass, more tickle was inflicted upon Jimmy's anus. From that point on, Jimmy became a mere shadow of his former self. For the rest of Jimmy's life, all of his brain power was used to relive the events of that nightmare again and again. He was never able to function normally again.
Now that you have read even a single word of this, the same teddy bear will get sucked right into your snappyhole and then use it as a bouncehouse in order to inflict extreme amounts of tickle upon it! To prevent this from occurring, copy this entire story and post it as a comment three times.
Why do you give a flying **** what the NSA are doing with your data?
Because no government throughout history has not fallen to corruption. Even the 'land of the free and the home of the brave' imprisoned US citizens of Japanese descent, had Jim Crow laws, practiced slavery, and did not allow women to vote (or do much else) until much later after it was founded. No government can be trusted with that much data, and you are a fool to think otherwise.
There would be if we made it so, which is what I'm clearly advocating for at least one right. Do you not understand the different between someone saying that something ought to be so and someone saying that something is so?
The fact is that the enumerated rights conflict in many ways
And since the first amendment listed no exceptions, our path should be clear. Fact is, the constitution did not give the government the power to harass people for their speech.
Perhaps it is, or perhaps it isn't; that's irrelevant. Arresting people for their speech and such should leave a sick taste in your mouth unless you're a government bootlicker.
I believe you'll find that the first amendment only says the government won't censor you. You can however still be criminally charged for what you say.
The first amendment guarantees freedom of speech, which is the freedom to not have government thugs harass you for your speech. You do not understand the first amendment; it lists no exceptions. Really. Read it
For example, you can be arrested for inciting a riot, which usually comes from speech.
Another example of the government violating the constitution and/or freedom of speech. Just like free speech zones, protest permits, the NSA surveillance, the TSA, border searches, and a host of other nonsense.
with real effort for a real result taking real skill and real investment by real people.
Well, it's only "imaginary damage" if you consider people not giving you money (their own money that you never once owned) and instead copying things without permission to be harm.
You want them to spend a few million dollars making something cool for you to watch
Even if that's what I wanted (I barely even watch movies), I certainly wouldn't want the money to go to these scumbags who think they're entitled to government-enforced monopolies over ideas. These people despise the free market.
All interpretation aside it says congress shall pass no law etc etc.
Yes. And there are laws that congress passed. The government violations the constitution; what else is new?
I'm not American so I don't really give a shit but it says shall pass no law, not send no thugs.
I was talking about the purpose of it. That is the purpose. Congress can't (doesn't have the legitimate authority to) make laws that infringe upon people's freedom of speech.
Almost the same effect, basically, and with other constitutional amendments, the first amendment can be extended to other areas of government as well.
I think your sloppy asshole needs to fart out all the cum I filled it with.
That's utterly preposterous and defeats most of the purpose of the first amendment. Using that logic, the government can come and punish you for saying something it doesn't like so long as they don't "censor" you. No, the purpose (what it should do and what it says) of the first amendment is to prevent government thugs from harassing people for their speech. Period.
You speak in opposites now? In reality, you're worshiping me as if I'm a god. Now, I'll force your sloppy asshole to suck on my fetid cock like a baby sucks on a pacifier! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh! That's simply too good! I guess it's time for me to fill your fictionhole with creamy goodies right this minuteness...!
Wow! Your rancid asshole is now a swimming pool for my cockpoles! What a sloppy asshole. What say you?
Doing nothing is a choice, and you may want to think you're choosing to support freedom, but you're actually choosing to deny the freedom of the victims of bullying and harassment
I'm not denying any important freedoms to these victims. Getting government thugs to harass others because you were hurt by their words isn't a fundamental freedom.
Your nobility is a false one.
Far less so than people who want to infringe upon others' right to free speech 'for the victims.' You remind me of the 'for the children' crowd.
Don't read this... it is a curse...
In 1952, a little boy named Jimmy was having a jolly good time playing on the abandoned railroad tracks just past the backyard of the property he lived on. Being that he could not go anywhere without his favorite blanket, he also, unsurprisingly, had that with him. After a few hours, Jimmy noticed that it had gotten awfully foggy out, and he could no longer see more than 20 feet in front of him.
Jimmy, frightened by this sudden change, decided to head home. While walking past the shed in his backyard, Jimmy spotted a strange teddy bear that he'd never seen before propped up against the tree behind his shed. He noticed that it was waving at him, and, with his blanket covering his head, began to walk faster. It became difficult for Jimmy to move properly, and he couldn't move any faster than he was moving now; this frightened him even more.
Jimmy then heard something creeping up behind him; he instinctively knew it was the mysterious teddy bear. Given that it was walking considerably faster than him, Jimmy gave up all hope of running away and decided to go on the offensive! He turned around and used his blanket to smack the teddy bear away from him. However, after that happened, Jimmy was thrown about 10 feet into the sky by an unseen entity, and upon landing, he bounced around on the ground a few times by making himself flail like a fish.
Once Jimmy stopped bouncing around, he immediately noticed that something was amiss; he felt a strange object sitting directly under his precious ass. Even though most of his body was not sitting on this object, the rest of his body stayed at the same height as the area that was sitting on top of the object, as if his body was a piece of wood. Being a sharp lad, Jimmy was quickly able to determine that the object his butt was sitting on was, in fact, the teddy bear!
Seconds after realizing this, he heard the teddy bear say, in a small infant's voice, "Like, tsk, owie!" The teddy bear's voice sounded like an echo, as if it was talking in a very small, enclosed space. Following this, Jimmy heard a "vvvvvvvvvvvv" sound, followed by the teddy bear being sucked right up Jimmy's snappyhole as if it were a mere spaghetti noodle! While it was being sucked up, Jimmy noticed that the part of the teddy bear that was currently being sucked up would get smaller so as to fit inside his precious snap.
Jimmy, no longer able to move, began panicking. All of a sudden, Jimmy's brain was filled with information that he had never come across before. Jimmy knew, from that point on, that his ass was becoming something completely different; his ass was becoming a rumblehouse ass! That teddy bear was going to use Jimmy's ass as a bouncehouse!
Jimmy began screaming, rolling all over the ground, and punching random objects. However, he realized his protests were futile when the teddy bear began bouncing off of the sides of Jimmy's ass and inflicting tremendous amounts of tickle upon it! Each time the teddy bear bounced off of the sides of his ass, more tickle was inflicted upon Jimmy's anus. From that point on, Jimmy became a mere shadow of his former self. For the rest of Jimmy's life, all of his brain power was used to relive the events of that nightmare again and again. He was never able to function normally again.
Now that you have read even a single word of this, the same teddy bear will get sucked right into your snappyhole and then use it as a bouncehouse in order to inflict extreme amounts of tickle upon it! To prevent this from occurring, copy this entire story and post it as a comment three times.
Even if damage had occurred, isn't freedom more important than security?
Just because it is open source doesn't mean anyone is actually auditing it.
True, but when it's open source, the chance that someone is auditing it or has audited is a fair bit higher, depending on how complex the software is.
Why do you give a flying **** what the NSA are doing with your data?
Because no government throughout history has not fallen to corruption. Even the 'land of the free and the home of the brave' imprisoned US citizens of Japanese descent, had Jim Crow laws, practiced slavery, and did not allow women to vote (or do much else) until much later after it was founded. No government can be trusted with that much data, and you are a fool to think otherwise.
You government bootlickers are a joke. Your hatred for freedom is eclipsed only by your immense stupidity and naivete.
Cold you do understand
He doesn't understand anything. He blindly trusts the government no matter what.
It didn't have to be speech. Making it about free speech is just a strawman argument.
No, it's not. This is about speech.
The actions they took were harassment
In this case, speech. Practicing newspeak, are we?
and stalking.
Stalking in what way? Did they physically follow her to the ends of the Earth, or are you going to spew forth some nonsense? I hope not.
I wouldn't be against that.
It shouldn't. Authority figures often suspect just about anyone, are corrupt, and/or simply overreact.
Gun control is evil.
There are no absolute rights.
There would be if we made it so, which is what I'm clearly advocating for at least one right. Do you not understand the different between someone saying that something ought to be so and someone saying that something is so?
The fact is that the enumerated rights conflict in many ways
And since the first amendment listed no exceptions, our path should be clear. Fact is, the constitution did not give the government the power to harass people for their speech.
Can we all finally agree that it's wrong to have the government punish the innocent?
Yeah.
I just heard an elevator sound originating from your bare snap. I wonder what that could be about...?
They were doing it to harm people.
Irrelevant, even if true.
And they did it to an extreme.
Subjective.
This isn't some slippery slope.
Perhaps it is, or perhaps it isn't; that's irrelevant. Arresting people for their speech and such should leave a sick taste in your mouth unless you're a government bootlicker.
Slashdot had an unusually large percentage of Libertarians back when I joined
Those types seem more tolerable than these oversensitive obsoletes.
I believe you'll find that the first amendment only says the government won't censor you. You can however still be criminally charged for what you say.
The first amendment guarantees freedom of speech, which is the freedom to not have government thugs harass you for your speech. You do not understand the first amendment; it lists no exceptions. Really. Read it
For example, you can be arrested for inciting a riot, which usually comes from speech.
Another example of the government violating the constitution and/or freedom of speech. Just like free speech zones, protest permits, the NSA surveillance, the TSA, border searches, and a host of other nonsense.
Unfortunately for your snap, that's completely irrelevant. With that said, one could ask you the same question.
They have no such job. The mere fact that she was questioned by police means little.