I read an interesting sf story, probably based on that theory, where some star-being (this was a side-plot, but integral to the origin of the main plot) had ultimately survived many additional sets of ",000,"'s beyond the paltry ten billion or so years the universe has been alive. Indeed, the current universe was a brief, energetic memory in his incalculable age, driven on with the equivalent of one bit of information in his brain changing every century in that distant, distant future as a proton or something decayed.
Heat death and entropy are completely based on probabilities.
Yet, "forever" is an awfully long time. There will always be the rare quarks that ram together and produce a subatomic particle. Eventually enough will just happen to be created together to create an atom.
How, as we go out multiple 10^^googleplex years, how long do we wait until a new star is born, purely by this random chance?
We're talking time periods so long an Atari 2600 can play a perfect game of Chess in the first 0.000000000001% of it.
That, I think, is the flaw in the heat death argument and the entropy argument, in an ever-expanding universe.
If anyone writes a paper analyzing the statistics on this, include Bobo as a co-researcher.
> The entire body of science points towards there being a directional purpose to life.
Either that, or some creatures in another type of reality created a gigantic random simulation and said, "Hey, let's see if something in there talks back to us eventually."
> I believe there are a lot of people who let
> their computer generate (almost) every
> conceivable email-adress@hotmail.com, and then
> spam all these addresses. I've recieved quite a
> few spam-mails where the "To:" field listed some
> hilarious addresses which resemble mine, then
> mine, then some more.
>
> These addresses do not exist,
Alternatively, they could have a valid list of E-mail addresses, then automatically generate bogus 1-offs just to throw you. Well, not so much you as other E-mail spammers. They don't want their hard-assembled lists getting out. By making the valid addresses be sparse amongst many fake, they protect the real list.
> Star Wars most violent movie ever, despite PG rating
Billions murdered, eh. Arm hacked off, ewwww. Whatever. The worst part to my 10 year old brain was when Luke kisses Leia (they weren't brother and sister back then.) The shame! The scandal! Oh, my burning sensibilities! Two actors would kiss, sucn an intimate thing, just for money to make a movie?
I remember Saturday Night Live parodying nudity on TV.
"You can show these:"
"but you can't show these:"
To fight such idiocy, just point out every chance you get how racist the government is, declaring white women pure, needing protection of their sensibles, while those wild, uncultured black people are just so low it's ok to show them.
Well, one thing's for certain. There will be no stopping growth until every home can simultaneously stream in four separate, HDTV-quality porno streams.
The Concorde may be ridiculously expensive, and a constant drain on working people in Europe to heavily subsidize rich people's short trips across the Atlantic, but as Idiotic Show Projects Sponsored By Governments go, it's far cheaper than Space Station Freedom, sorry, the International Space Station, or the Space Shuttle, or a Mission to Mars (they will almost surely die since it's an all-eggs-in-one-basket plan, you think a dead schoolteacher screwed up the minds of a generation of children...), or the Missions to the Moon...
What people don't realize is it's also the most southernmost state because scientists have discovered the Aleutian chain goes under the earth's crust, popping out again just south of South America, all the way down to the edge of Antarctica.
I find it interesting US people comment on how much this sucks. This is actually LESS taxation in the US.
In most states in the US, if food is "prepared", it is taxed, regardless of whether you take it home or not. McDonald's is always taxed whether you eat in or take it home.
In fact, bottles of pop and beer from the cooler are taxed, where warm ones are not. By cooling them (the way most people drink them) they are prepared and ready-to-eat.
Of course, the average taxes in Europe kick the butt of even deepest socialist New York or San Francisco.
Of course, comic books are wiping out the entire universe over and over.
Perhaps the biggest mass murder was the consolidation of the DC universe, way back when I actually read them. They basically killed off uncounted parallel universes just because the writers had nothing better to do.
Probably 10^^30 or more killed, depending.
And, of course, the worst mass-murderer of all?
Why, God of course! He created all reality, and created sentient beings, and stuck them in a reality where they could harm each other, or even if they didn't, they would die anyway. Everyone who ever lived or will live died because of God, ultimately, and completely needlessly, since it would have been preventable infinitely easily.
(To tie it to movies, there must be one where the rapture occurs.)
Well, it will allow it until firewalls are built to stop it. Then you'll need a mini-HTTP protocol inside that to get around that. Until firewalls are built to stop that.
Overall, it serves nothing but an evil purpose -- to allow porn surfing at work.
Slashdot Mirror
I read an interesting sf story, probably based on that theory, where some star-being (this was a side-plot, but integral to the origin of the main plot) had ultimately survived many additional sets of ",000,"'s beyond the paltry ten billion or so years the universe has been alive. Indeed, the current universe was a brief, energetic memory in his incalculable age, driven on with the equivalent of one bit of information in his brain changing every century in that distant, distant future as a proton or something decayed.
Heat death and entropy are completely based on probabilities.
Yet, "forever" is an awfully long time. There will always be the rare quarks that ram together and produce a subatomic particle. Eventually enough will just happen to be created together to create an atom.
How, as we go out multiple 10^^googleplex years, how long do we wait until a new star is born, purely by this random chance?
We're talking time periods so long an Atari 2600 can play a perfect game of Chess in the first 0.000000000001% of it.
That, I think, is the flaw in the heat death argument and the entropy argument, in an ever-expanding universe.
If anyone writes a paper analyzing the statistics on this, include Bobo as a co-researcher.
I'd be worried about no useable energy being left but the odd decaying proton long before distance becomes a problem.
> The entire body of science points towards there being a directional purpose to life.
Either that, or some creatures in another type of reality created a gigantic random simulation and said, "Hey, let's see if something in there talks back to us eventually."
> I believe there are a lot of people who let
> their computer generate (almost) every
> conceivable email-adress@hotmail.com, and then
> spam all these addresses. I've recieved quite a
> few spam-mails where the "To:" field listed some
> hilarious addresses which resemble mine, then
> mine, then some more.
>
> These addresses do not exist,
Alternatively, they could have a valid list of E-mail addresses, then automatically generate bogus 1-offs just to throw you. Well, not so much you as other E-mail spammers. They don't want their hard-assembled lists getting out. By making the valid addresses be sparse amongst many fake, they protect the real list.
Or "All your bits is belong to us."
> Star Wars most violent movie ever, despite PG rating
Billions murdered, eh. Arm hacked off, ewwww. Whatever. The worst part to my 10 year old brain was when Luke kisses Leia (they weren't brother and sister back then.) The shame! The scandal! Oh, my burning sensibilities! Two actors would kiss, sucn an intimate thing, just for money to make a movie?
> You realize that we use only ten percent of our brains?
The Ten Percent Myth
And the monstroulsy-badly designed FTP, for that matter.
I can't wait until someone posts a picture of an alien peeling off that exoskeleton.
HMMMMM, evidently "Plain Old Text" has loads of bugs in it. Specifically, bracketized statements.
Anyhoo...
"You can show these:"
(film of an African native dancing wildly, boobs flopping all over the place)
"...but you can't show these:"
(still photo of a European female.)
I remember Saturday Night Live parodying nudity on TV.
"You can show these:"
"but you can't show these:"
To fight such idiocy, just point out every chance you get how racist the government is, declaring white women pure, needing protection of their sensibles, while those wild, uncultured black people are just so low it's ok to show them.
Well, one thing's for certain. There will be no stopping growth until every home can simultaneously stream in four separate, HDTV-quality porno streams.
Isometric game engine? Whoa, hold on there! Are you sure you guys are finished with the open-source side-scroller engine?
Clamp onto the name of some company a few years ago, wait for them to buy it from you. Better yet if you can get a generic word.
If they're taking too long to pay up, turn it into a porno site.
My lawyers will be contacting both of you as I have the trademark on (tm(tm)).
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Oh, shoot, I forgot to put the trademark on it.
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A little bit of burping in the infinitely scalable architecture, eh?
The Concorde may be ridiculously expensive, and a constant drain on working people in Europe to heavily subsidize rich people's short trips across the Atlantic, but as Idiotic Show Projects Sponsored By Governments go, it's far cheaper than Space Station Freedom, sorry, the International Space Station, or the Space Shuttle, or a Mission to Mars (they will almost surely die since it's an all-eggs-in-one-basket plan, you think a dead schoolteacher screwed up the minds of a generation of children...), or the Missions to the Moon...
It's also the most northernmost, obviously.
What people don't realize is it's also the most southernmost state because scientists have discovered the Aleutian chain goes under the earth's crust, popping out again just south of South America, all the way down to the edge of Antarctica.
I find it interesting US people comment on how much this sucks. This is actually LESS taxation in the US.
In most states in the US, if food is "prepared", it is taxed, regardless of whether you take it home or not. McDonald's is always taxed whether you eat in or take it home.
In fact, bottles of pop and beer from the cooler are taxed, where warm ones are not. By cooling them (the way most people drink them) they are prepared and ready-to-eat.
Of course, the average taxes in Europe kick the butt of even deepest socialist New York or San Francisco.
Of course, comic books are wiping out the entire universe over and over.
Perhaps the biggest mass murder was the consolidation of the DC universe, way back when I actually read them. They basically killed off uncounted parallel universes just because the writers had nothing better to do.
Probably 10^^30 or more killed, depending.
And, of course, the worst mass-murderer of all?
Why, God of course! He created all reality, and created sentient beings, and stuck them in a reality where they could harm each other, or even if they didn't, they would die anyway. Everyone who ever lived or will live died because of God, ultimately, and completely needlessly, since it would have been preventable infinitely easily.
(To tie it to movies, there must be one where the rapture occurs.)
Well, it will allow it until firewalls are built to stop it. Then you'll need a mini-HTTP protocol inside that to get around that. Until firewalls are built to stop that.
Overall, it serves nothing but an evil purpose -- to allow porn surfing at work.
Full steam ahead!
PEBGAB
Problem Exists Between Geek And Bed
Hehehe.
So who's the lUser now?
I'm sure 80% of the male population would be Bill's love slave to get a piece of that cash.