What is the point of open-sourcing Solaris (read free as in freedom) if we can't be sure of using the code that has been "opened" to further the open-source movement? Sun must open its software patents in order to do this.
It's pretty obvious really... They're trying to get people to work on new projects in Solaris by opening it up as much as they can to people willing to work on it. They aren't willing to blow millions of dollars and hundreds of man-years of R&D just so all the useful or superior technology can be ripped out and show up in Fedora Core 5 (for example).
Hopefully, this will result in some competition between the Linux and Solaris camps and both sides will benefit. Major improvements in device drivers for Solaris x86 would probably make a pretty big splash for places afraid to switch from MicroSoft to a "no name" OS.
Who knows? Maybbe, just maybe, part of the agreement and $$$ between SCO and Sun was to free Sun of any future leagal threats because they were planning on doing this.
Sun has great technology, and has always been available and helpful to the user/developer community whenever they could.
-- When you think of how evil MicroSoft is, remember that they learned it from IBM.
then why is it no serious unix hacker considers any of those distros worthy?
Because most people who think they are "serious unix hacker[s]" measure their virtual penis length by their ability to master obscure/suck-ass code to prove that they can. Debian in case in point. "hackers" don't use RedHat because they "sold out" or something.
While I applaud their efforts(MY IDEA TWO-THREE YEARS AGO), I must question their delivery system.
They have been working on this for more than 5 years now. I only know because I friend of mine got a ton of pre-IPO stock in one of their early financing rounds. I think he got it for something like $0.05/share and sold it for $0.20/share. Not too bad if you think of it as a 400% return.
As for the delivery system, it is probably just as secure as using the web front end. Take that for what it's worth as well.
Those TOS documents are written by people who are notoriously uninformed about how the technology is supposed to be used. Access to the Internet is supposed to be unrestricted and unfiltered. Also another major concept is that it's supposed to be a community in which all parties are equally capable of contributing.
In this case, the TOS can allow Comcast and others to force spammers off their networks for running "servers". This is a good thing.
Second, your ideals that the internet should be unrestricted and unfiltered are directly conflicted since not all parties are capable of contributing. There are obviously tens of thousands of people out there (let's call them "spammers" for lack of a better term) who are not contributing. Don't you believe that these "spammers" should have the same unfiltered and unrestricted rights that you do? Or are you willing to set yourself up as arbiter of what makes a valid contribution?
And by keeping a loaded gun in my mailbox...
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I never know who might get shot or when! And the police would never find out if it was me doing the shooting!!
Since the 6000 has come out the price on the 5600 has dropped into the reasonable range. If you get a USB cable from SerialIO you can charge the Zaurus from any USB port without lugging along the power supply or cradle. You could get the DB9 cable as well and use it to config a router on console in a pinch too...
Once you get the WiFi card for it, you can just ftp your files over to it or whatever you want to do.
So you're actually saying that Linux developers "borrow" from other operating systems in order to improve their kernel without having to do the initial development work themselves? That seems to be a dangerous statement to make.
This is exactly why they are not getting the attention they crave. The job is not being done well enough plain and simple.
Generally, I find the inverse is true. The when a job gets done well enough, the people who do that job are taken for granted and very rarely given recognition for the work that they do. (Invisible or in Trouble)
XFree may not be the "best", but it is ubiquitous because it works. That's a lot more than can be said for many GPL'd projects.
The Mosozoic era was the age of the reptiles and spans 183 million years. Tack on another 40-something million years for the end of the Palaeozoic era when reptiles began to dominate, and it comes out over 200 million years.
So hundreds of millions of years is accurate, but maybe a little over stated.:P
So why exactly do the doomsayers say that life will be destroyed?
Because they take a short-term, narrow minded view and fail to notice that only life as they know it will be destroyed. That knid of thing happens every day without our help. The idea that won't change just because we started paying attention (or even evolved to the point where it was possible) is lost on people who believe in this crap.
that large portions of the planet used to be tropical jungles, with the dominant species being large reptiles for hundreds of millions of years?
It would seem that a warmer, wetter planet would be more likely to create that type of environment. Kinda like a greenhouse, for lack of a better word.
Do you think that the multiply resistant strains of bacteria are just spontaniously appearing out of nowhere? Or could it be that the genes for AB resistance are suddenly very much more common in the wild as a result of genetically modified organisms?
Can you actually prove that, or are you just theorizing?
I would tend to believe that there are so many AB resistant bacteria out there due to the rediculous amounts of AB stuff that people use in their lives. They demand antibiotics every time they get the sniffles, use antibiotic hand soap, AB kitchen wipes, etc... In that kind of environment the only bacteria that will survive will be the multiply AB resistant ones, which were mutants with no real survival advantage to begin with.
So they aren't appearing out of nowhere. They have always been there but now they have the advantage and they are filling the niches left by the non-resistant ones. Then all it *may* take is another mutation to turn it into something really nasty.
Since the only way the potential threat value of the fish could be evaluated is through science, banning the fish and stating that "it's not a question of science" shows that he doesn't even understand what the problems could be. That leads me to believe that he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
It's almost as if somebody in the FDA decided to ban penicillin because man was interfering with God's plan or something. Would you think that was an elightened and informed decision?
"For me it's a question of values, it's not a question of science," said commissioner Sam Schuchat. "I think selling genetically modified fish as pets is wrong."
I'm nearly at a loss for words. It stupidity that oozes from that sentence is frightening.
"I have no idea what this is about, by my knee-jerk response is no" would have been a more succinct way of putting it.
What extraordinary skill does the CEO bring to the table that justifies the unbelievable theft-from-within that is most CEO pays?
I really feel that you have never worked for a CEO who really cared about his business or his people. You use the word "most", but I feel I should provide a counterpoint.
I'm not a CEO, but I have worked for one who honestly cared and wanted to makes his people as rich/successful as he is.
He worked for 3 years without drawing salary. He paid all travel expenses out of pocket. He was in at 5:30 AM every day, and left after 8pm (I don't know when, because I was only putting in 14 hour days from 6-8). In nearly any area the guy was scary-smart, but he did approve a more than 200% raise for me because he knew I was working my ass off for the company.
Certainly not all of them deserve what they get, but some do and I just wanted to mention it. There is even a startup in the local area with some very familiar management. I know that they remember me and the other people who worked haed for them.
I guess that my point is that being a CEO is like a lot of other things. You hear about the bad ones, but there are no stories about the ones who really do try.
When I was demonstrating an early working version to my boss someone started browsing a bunch of sick porn sites, mostly animal porn judging by the urls. An investigation began immediately.
wow. how convenient. sounds like a major load of shit.
porn sites aren't a plague for anybody. employees know that they have a job to do, and limits to their fucking off (at least in the US). I get more porn complaints about some dipshit secretary getting SPAM than anything else. Nobody is dumb enough to actively surf at work.
People ran RedHat (and most linux) on machines that couldn't handle the newer versions of Windows. Slowly, people noticed that these machines were OK file servers but didn't do anything else. So they wrote MP3 players, and DVD players, and utilities, and other services..... and then complained that linux was getting too bloated.
The only thing that stops Apple is the price of their systems IMO. I would love a dual G5, but I can get more use (for me) out of a 3000 XP+. If they did something really crazy like ported OS-X to an x86 architecture, that would probably help.
Of course no one here reads. They're too busy making knee-jerk bullshit statements like "I'll recommend anything but RedHat now" and "RedHat has sold out".
This is/. after all. If you're not part of their socialist utopian software dream, your're part of the problem.
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Hopefully, this will result in some competition between the Linux and Solaris camps and both sides will benefit. Major improvements in device drivers for Solaris x86 would probably make a pretty big splash for places afraid to switch from MicroSoft to a "no name" OS.
Who knows? Maybbe, just maybe, part of the agreement and $$$ between SCO and Sun was to free Sun of any future leagal threats because they were planning on doing this.
Sun has great technology, and has always been available and helpful to the user/developer community whenever they could.
-- When you think of how evil MicroSoft is, remember that they learned it from IBM.
Umm, yeah. That's why all the daemons are yp*. Sun Yellow Pages.
I think they had to drop that naming convention because of legal hassles from the phone company.
think of how dumb the average person is...
Now realize thay 1/2 the world is even dumber than that.
ugh! my irony detector asplode!
then why is it no serious unix hacker considers any of those distros worthy?
Because most people who think they are "serious unix hacker[s]" measure their virtual penis length by their ability to master obscure/suck-ass code to prove that they can. Debian in case in point. "hackers" don't use RedHat because they "sold out" or something.
While I applaud their efforts(MY IDEA TWO-THREE YEARS AGO), I must question their delivery system.
They have been working on this for more than 5 years now. I only know because I friend of mine got a ton of pre-IPO stock in one of their early financing rounds. I think he got it for something like $0.05/share and sold it for $0.20/share. Not too bad if you think of it as a 400% return.
As for the delivery system, it is probably just as secure as using the web front end. Take that for what it's worth as well.
Those TOS documents are written by people who are notoriously uninformed about how the technology is supposed to be used. Access to the Internet is supposed to be unrestricted and unfiltered. Also another major concept is that it's supposed to be a community in which all parties are equally capable of contributing.
In this case, the TOS can allow Comcast and others to force spammers off their networks for running "servers". This is a good thing.
Second, your ideals that the internet should be unrestricted and unfiltered are directly conflicted since not all parties are capable of contributing. There are obviously tens of thousands of people out there (let's call them "spammers" for lack of a better term) who are not contributing. Don't you believe that these "spammers" should have the same unfiltered and unrestricted rights that you do? Or are you willing to set yourself up as arbiter of what makes a valid contribution?
I never know who might get shot or when! And the police would never find out if it was me doing the shooting!!
This is brilliant. I'm in total awe.
Since the 6000 has come out the price on the 5600 has dropped into the reasonable range. If you get a USB cable from SerialIO you can charge the Zaurus from any USB port without lugging along the power supply or cradle. You could get the DB9 cable as well and use it to config a router on console in a pinch too...
Once you get the WiFi card for it, you can just ftp your files over to it or whatever you want to do.
So you're actually saying that Linux developers "borrow" from other operating systems in order to improve their kernel without having to do the initial development work themselves? That seems to be a dangerous statement to make.
This is exactly why they are not getting the attention they crave. The job is not being done well enough plain and simple.
Generally, I find the inverse is true. The when a job gets done well enough, the people who do that job are taken for granted and very rarely given recognition for the work that they do. (Invisible or in Trouble)
XFree may not be the "best", but it is ubiquitous because it works. That's a lot more than can be said for many GPL'd projects.
The Mosozoic era was the age of the reptiles and spans 183 million years. Tack on another 40-something million years for the end of the Palaeozoic era when reptiles began to dominate, and it comes out over 200 million years.
:P
So hundreds of millions of years is accurate, but maybe a little over stated.
So why exactly do the doomsayers say that life will be destroyed?
Because they take a short-term, narrow minded view and fail to notice that only life as they know it will be destroyed. That knid of thing happens every day without our help. The idea that won't change just because we started paying attention (or even evolved to the point where it was possible) is lost on people who believe in this crap.
that large portions of the planet used to be tropical jungles, with the dominant species being large reptiles for hundreds of millions of years?
It would seem that a warmer, wetter planet would be more likely to create that type of environment. Kinda like a greenhouse, for lack of a better word.
Mammals are just a fad.
Good point. I guess I want to think more in terms of "It's OK if it isn't bad" than in "It's only OK if it's good".
Do you think that the multiply resistant strains of bacteria are just spontaniously appearing out of nowhere? Or could it be that the genes for AB resistance are suddenly very much more common in the wild as a result of genetically modified organisms?
Can you actually prove that, or are you just theorizing?
I would tend to believe that there are so many AB resistant bacteria out there due to the rediculous amounts of AB stuff that people use in their lives. They demand antibiotics every time they get the sniffles, use antibiotic hand soap, AB kitchen wipes, etc... In that kind of environment the only bacteria that will survive will be the multiply AB resistant ones, which were mutants with no real survival advantage to begin with.
So they aren't appearing out of nowhere. They have always been there but now they have the advantage and they are filling the niches left by the non-resistant ones. Then all it *may* take is another mutation to turn it into something really nasty.
Since the only way the potential threat value of the fish could be evaluated is through science, banning the fish and stating that "it's not a question of science" shows that he doesn't even understand what the problems could be. That leads me to believe that he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
It's almost as if somebody in the FDA decided to ban penicillin because man was interfering with God's plan or something. Would you think that was an elightened and informed decision?
"For me it's a question of values, it's not a question of science," said commissioner Sam Schuchat. "I think selling genetically modified fish as pets is wrong."
I'm nearly at a loss for words. It stupidity that oozes from that sentence is frightening.
"I have no idea what this is about, by my knee-jerk response is no" would have been a more succinct way of putting it.
What extraordinary skill does the CEO bring to the table that justifies the unbelievable theft-from-within that is most CEO pays?
I really feel that you have never worked for a CEO who really cared about his business or his people. You use the word "most", but I feel I should provide a counterpoint.
I'm not a CEO, but I have worked for one who honestly cared and wanted to makes his people as rich/successful as he is.
He worked for 3 years without drawing salary. He paid all travel expenses out of pocket. He was in at 5:30 AM every day, and left after 8pm (I don't know when, because I was only putting in 14 hour days from 6-8). In nearly any area the guy was scary-smart, but he did approve a more than 200% raise for me because he knew I was working my ass off for the company.
Certainly not all of them deserve what they get, but some do and I just wanted to mention it. There is even a startup in the local area with some very familiar management. I know that they remember me and the other people who worked haed for them.
I guess that my point is that being a CEO is like a lot of other things. You hear about the bad ones, but there are no stories about the ones who really do try.
When I was demonstrating an early working version to my boss someone started browsing a bunch of sick porn sites, mostly animal porn judging by the urls. An investigation began immediately.
wow. how convenient. sounds like a major load of shit.
porn sites aren't a plague for anybody. employees know that they have a job to do, and limits to their fucking off (at least in the US). I get more porn complaints about some dipshit secretary getting SPAM than anything else. Nobody is dumb enough to actively surf at work.
He probably meant "inclined to use the same operating system".
Which is about 10 seconds compared to the overall age of both the earth and the sun....
People ran RedHat (and most linux) on machines that couldn't handle the newer versions of Windows. Slowly, people noticed that these machines were OK file servers but didn't do anything else. So they wrote MP3 players, and DVD players, and utilities, and other services..... and then complained that linux was getting too bloated.
The only thing that stops Apple is the price of their systems IMO. I would love a dual G5, but I can get more use (for me) out of a 3000 XP+. If they did something really crazy like ported OS-X to an x86 architecture, that would probably help.
Of course no one here reads. They're too busy making knee-jerk bullshit statements like "I'll recommend anything but RedHat now" and "RedHat has sold out".
/. after all. If you're not part of their socialist utopian software dream, your're part of the problem.
This is