As you didn't mention trees or string, it is positively disingenious for you to redefine what you mean by progress post-hoc.
You miss the part where I said "no longer directly followed by...direct violence to the name-called"?
Well, there it is again, in case you missed it the first time.
Cosby came from a generation where the word was used to divide and denigrate, 'kids today' have a different impression of its use, dude. You can blame hip-hop if you want, but that's the fact, jack.
Cosby was 27 before he was guaranteed by law not to be discriminated against for the color of his skin, so I'm sure he has a more deeply entrenched dislike for its use. He certainly came by it naturally.
Birth Name: William H. Cosby Jr. Birthdate: July 12, 1937
So if "nigger" is not the derogatory term that it once was, then everyone should be able to use it. I should have been able to turn to the kids and say, "He's right. If you're going to be a nigger you should be a straight up nigger!" and they would laugh and I would smile and wave. But I can't. Had I done so there may have been bloodshed. Because had I done so I would now be in jail for shooting one or two people as they would almost certainly have turned on me with hate-filled eyes, animus in their hearts and malice in their souls.
No, actually they would have laughed at you trying to 'be black'. Without the power of law behind the racism, they are just names, and can never hurt you. Stick and stones, etc.
Islamic law in practice is rather bloody in its prescribed punishments.
Sharia law, when interpreted by backwoods nutjobs, is quite like that. 'Islamic' law, like that in Indonesia, isn't quite up to the barbarism you subscribe to all Muslims (note, see defintion of terms). To wit.
The Indonesian legal system is based on Roman-Dutch law, modified by custom and Islamic law. Sources of law are Islamic law, statutory legislation, presidential instructions, and official compilations of Islamic law.
As far as I'm concerned I see where he is coming from. It is a bit over-reaching but not unwarranted.
That would explain your confusion.
Islam is to Muslim what Protestant is to Christianity. But the main difference is that Islamists believe in a political superiority that drives a nationalistic expansion of their law to the whole world. It is the mixture of the political ambitions with the Muslim religion that makes one an Islamist.
Dictionary. Look into it.
Islam - A monotheistic religion characterized by the acceptance of the doctrine of submission to God and to Muhammad as the chief and last prophet of God.
Muslim - A believer in or adherent of Islam.
Islamofascist Terrorists - 'Them'.
When you start to confuse the terms, as you have done consistently throughout this conversation, you are not helping, merely expanding the number of people that must be destroyed before peace can come again.
The fact that you think "Islam" is some sort of Muslim Protestant tells me that you are quite confused about who it is you are talking about. Considering this problem in endemic nowadays (at least in my country), I can understand the problem and will give you another chance to explain yourself.
It is my opinion, based on this conversation so far, that you wouldn't be capable of writing Charles an email without insulting him, his site, or his views, and asking that he try to keep the intellectual highground on this point.
It is my opinion, based on experience, that it doesn't matter.
However, to illustrate my point, I have done as you asked.
Websites don't make people hate. The decision to hate or not to hate is up to the individual.
Correct, websites just provide information with which to rationalize that hatred. That's a very important point, write it down.
LGF does often carry some interesting information.
Yes, they do. Their discussion of Rachel Corrie includes particularly enlightening pieces of information.
Perhaps their lives would improve if they stopped giving the civilized world quite so much to point at in this regard.
Talk about a tangent. Perhaps their lives would improve if the illegal occupation of Palestine was ended.
But what is interesting to me is that of those posts I could only see three references to the whole Muslim religion by name -- and two were from your commentary.
I see why you are confused. When someone on LGF talks about the 'death cult' they mean Islam.
"These people" is another way to blur the line and castigate a quarter of the world's population for the actions of a single teacher. -- I'm with Bill Cosby on this one, calling people 'nigga' is not progress.
It's not better than calling someone 'nigger' and then stringing them up to a tree? I guess we have different conceptions of what progess is, in that case.
I have seen a few rants from various folks about the overuse of the word, and they make a number of good points. I've even read the book by the title, but the simple fact is that it is an improvement that the word is no longer routinely followed by acts of racial violence. Or, to be more precise and on-thread-topic, it is no longer routinely used for stereotyping an entire race as stupid, backwards, and violent. Instead, it has become a general equivalent of "Dude".
This does not assume there still isn't room for improvement, quite the contrary, but we had a really long way to go from where we used to be.
LGF does what it can to paint Islam as a religion of violence and to stir up hatred for those that follow it.
Who for all the problems not withstanding is an eye-witness to the account.
Yes, an eyewitness who is a child and who's translated account is refuted by a number of other sources.
The actions of a disgruntled school teacher who was punished (albeit too lightly for my tastes) does not indict a expansionist political movement nor religion. Well, not on its own. It only points to the person committing the attrocity.
Then pray tell, why is the title of the post, penned by Mr. Johnson, "Discipline, Islamic Style"?
So just what is that point --precisely?
That citing a questionable source, refuted by others, and deciding that source confirms that notion that Islam, as a whole, is a religon of violence, is a great example on how to run a hate site.
Your statement here reflects something of a strange disconnect on this topic.
I've read Zombie's comments and they were rather reasonable in that regard, he differentiated between Islam and Muslim just as you expect him/her to do.
As yes, the difference between Islam and Muslim is what exactly? In my understanding, one is a religion and the other is someone who follows it. Perhaps you can enlighten me a bit here.
Is it like the difference between Islamic Extremists and the other 99% of the Muslim population of the world, or did you just make a Freudian typo?
"But it did not reduce his anger and he cut off our ears with a pair of scissors," one of the students said.
So the crux of Charles' position is based on that single statement by a traunatized child? Pray tell, what percentage of Madrassas in the northern Bangladeshi district of Bogra use English as their primary tounge? So we are working off a tranlsation of a child's interpretation. Note, three other sources counter that child's claim.
Also, speaking of psychosis.
So, even though the crime was probably not as serious as the original article implies, it is still beyond comprehension that a teacher would even ponder doing this. Islamic psychosis at work.
This makes my point precisely. Regardless of what actually happened, it still points to the 'fact' that Islam is psychotic. Also, it's pretty obvious that Zombie feels this applies to the religion as a whole. LGF propagates this position on a daily basis.
Thank you for making my point.
From comment #358, who just read the main post and didn't follow the comments.
What floors me about this is the mechanics of it. Cut off one ear, you have a child screaming, blood flowing, the rest of the children terrified, possibly screaming. Hell, most adults I know would be vomiting.
Then this monster goes from seat to seat, child by child, and repeats the process over a dozen times?
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And yet somehow the school administration [one other person, see articles. -wah] initially sheltered him?
Why don't you politely email Charles and ask him to say something about it.
Give it a shot. See how quick you get banned for 'not seeing the problem'.
Really, give it a shot. Let me know how it goes. Three people posted it in the thread, yet...
If there is a discrepancy, this is where 'journalism' comes in, and you try and get as close to the truth as possible. That's not the goal for LGF. It's a hate site. Its purpose is to point out how unworthy of life (extremist) Muslims are. And those parenthesis have an inversely proportional relationship with the amount of anger each particular story generates. The more hate, the quicker they fade.
Don't think it is lost on me that someone who used the 'n' word in the title of their post is accusing people of being bigoted.
Nice catch. Unfortunately you would be sad to learn that I live in Harlem, and the phrase used above is a colloquial version of "you are full of shit." The main point being that the word has been able to enter popular culture because it's utterance is no longer directly followed by, or is an implied threat of, direct violence against the name-called. A linguistic pavlovian response that has been mediated by cultural progess.
So while Bill Whittle (and LGF) can distinguish radical Islam from the Muslim religion, you apparently cannot. While you complain of bad journalism and biased reporting, it is your post that selectively re-works anothers words into something they didn't say at all.
NO, you are simply wrong, or have never read a single thread on LGF. Additionally, you haven't explained why Charles can't update his post and apologize for being a bigot and assuming the worst.
But the error, of course, is that you are the one who extended the observations on a whole religion.
So, it's an error to think the whole religion is nuts? Great, glad we agree. Let's look at that thread, see if we can get a feel for the LGF mindset regarding that question.
Selected quotes from that thread (this gets long, as one would expect a preponderance of evidence to do)
Shall we look at the comments?
O.k. lets. My comments (and the subtext) next to each number, original comments below the numbers. Commentary in brackets.
#1 - All Muslims are the same. And they are lying to themselve and others.
ahhhhhhhhhh, the religion of peace.
#4 - dehumanzing - Got to take care of that first.
Those people. Are different. From you and me.
#5 - these people I can't even come up with a comment on this story. How in the world are we going to drag these people forward 1400 years?
#7 - What's the final solution?
Allah strikes again!
And we thought we had a problem with Russian and Chinese communism...
#9 - those people, all alike. Every last one of 'em.
remember Allah is merciful, unfortunately his believers are not.
#10 - forced sterilization is fun!
now if he would only cut off their balls, we could have some birth control there
#14 - group think endorse
Heh, same thing I was thinking. Islam is such a "peaceful and loving" religion. Yea, right.
#15 - Huh? What's that, you mean Charles posted the wrong story? I'm sure he'll correct it. You know, for honesty's sake. How long will it take? This comment posted over 3 days ago. Faked memos, huh?
"DHAKA - A teacher in an Islamic school in the northern Bangladeshi district of Bogra was assaulted by angry relatives after he cut the ears of 17 students with scissors."
"The Islamic school was established just six months ago and had some 35 students, all aged between six and 10.
It had only two teachers - Mr Sardar and the school's principal, Mr Abdul Mannan."
[p.s. that's 'cut' not 'cut off' for those too blinded by hatred of sand niggers, sorry, to see. Oh, wait, there's more.]
#17 - What does Michael Moore have to do with this? He sharpened the scissors,
BLEH. Torturing children, and the man is still alive and being protected ["He is being treated in a local hospital under police custody."-wah].
Can we send Michael Moore to a madrassah so he can see firsthand how wonderful his buddies are?
#18 - in response to #5 - I wonder if nukes will work?
We're not. At least not until we destroy the bankroll / financiers of Wahabism / Sharia / Salafism, and wipe every Wahabist madrassa from the face of the Earth.
Keep reading down the thread (if you can stomach it). Three more people point out that the story, as posted, is wrong.
Why doesn't Charles fix it?
What was the moral you were espousing again?
Honesty.Plain, ole, honesty. Or maybe it's called 'journalistic integrity'. Chuck lost that mantle a couple years ago, though, so now the bar is lowered. And he still can't make it.
Hate makes you stupid, and, it would seem, deceitful.
Actually, this is what I mean. Probably the best explanation of LGF comes from Bill Whittle,
Actually, the best explanation comes from LGF itself, and not the apologists who agree with them.
Here's one from a few days ago. What's the difference between 'cut' and 'chops off'?
Bigotry. Plain and simple. Read down to comment #15 to see this.
Here's how it works. You take a small segement of a population.
The philosophy of Radical Islam is at war, not only with America and the West, but with everything that is not Radical Islam. So, do they hate us? Yes they do.
Then apply it to everyone with one of the same qualities. Oh, also make sure to attack the intellect of anyone who disagrees.
I don't see how any rational person could deny this is so.
BTW, what 'no rational person' can deny is that *the second* a Muslim gets his hands on a bomb, THEY WANT TO USE IT TO KILL US ALL IMMEDIATELY.
THEY, the Muslims, ARE HEADED RIGHT FOR US! We have to get 'them' first.
They have been a big proponent of the meme that it doesn't matter which Muslims we kill, as long as we are killing some of them. This is the same "logic" that says the War in Iraq is somehow the War on Terrorism. It's the logic of Al Qeada. To believe this line of thinking, you have to think the Mahdi Militia was about to invade the U.S. proper. To believe this, you have to believe that 135 people have been kidnapped in Iraq because 'they hate our Freedom and values'.
It just does not make sense...unless you look at it through the eyes of fear and bigotry.
You quickly come to conclusion after reading LGF, as one must to not get banned, that 'they' believe there is only one final solution to the Muslim problem.
Little Green Footballs is often misunderstood, but I like them.
I don't see what's to misunderstand, LGF is a running argument for the extermination of the Muslim religion (and those that are stupid enough to believe in it), and the many, many, many, reasons for doing so.
Kerry wants socialized medicine, which is what Canada and Cuba have.
Err, and pretty much every other advanced democracy on the planet. There is one major reason (that's not talked about) for why we don't have this here in the U.S. and it's our old friend 'racism'. Really, go back and read Congressional debate in the 50's and think for a moment how easy it would have been to convince the Dixiecrats that all the blacks in this country not only deserved the right to vote, but also deserved a decent shot at a healthy life.
Also, since we are a compassionate society, we treat everyone that comes into an emergency room. There is an economic problem that results here, as these unaccounted for emergency room visits can have astronomical costs. And they are often for small problems that have simply been left untreated for years, and allowed to swell. In many cases, 10 $100 Dr. visits can be used to avoid 1 $50,000 surgery. Mix in the costs for lawyers, insurance company profits, etc, and it's not hard to see why health care costs are skyrocketing. There is a better way to deal with the problem.
This is a no-brainer, really. But to each their own. I'm curious as to why you think it's bad. Please avoid using an 'ism' tautology, and give me actual reasons.
Jobs: Yes, Wal-Mart is hiring. There is a big shift going on, as we moved from a manufacturing to service oriented economy. The problem is that many services can be done by people in country with good education and heathcare systems, so the employers don't have to pay for either. Converse that with the U.S., where healthcare is becoming a huge part of worker expense, and you see how this ties back in. Additionally, it would be simple to stop the exporting of jobs. Simply that any company that wants to sell products to Americans must pay at least minimum wage to all it's employees, regardless of location. If you take away some of the incentive to export jobs, you can slow what is a dangerous trend, IMHO. And slowing is all one needs to do, as the other side should, if they have some sort of economic freedom, rise up to reach something of an equilibrium over time. It's the speed of change that is dangerous, not the change itself, that is inevitable.
In addition, how many of his own people did Saddam order killed?More than we have? So far?
I'm sorry, we also killed about 15,000 - 20,000 Iraqi civilians for Saddam's crimes. Yes, I understand the 'we got a bad man trump card', but right now the war is looking like crap. Not only do we today not have control over large portions of the country, but because Bush is now worried about the Iraqi's "Bringing It On", and the news talking about how many more people are dieing in the wars, we are not going on the offensive and extending the occupation for political reasons(Hey, Zell, Bush calls it an occupation too). We will be in Iraq for 5 to 10 years, depending on how long we want to bleed, or how long it takes them to get together a big enough bomb to blow up one of the 6 permanent bases we have built there. Heck, it seems right now the goal is to start a civil war, and then sneak out the back. BTW, when they say 'Training Iraqi Police Forces to Take Over the Fight Against the Insurgency', that means 'civil war', as it would be Iraqi on Iraqi.
Iraq is our very own West Bank...but at least we got Saddam.
That question did have a 'What are you guys gonna do since you suck so bad?' feel to it.
He was dead-on in his assessment of the attitude of the question. Great answer.
I'm still not going to install Real on my computer (sorry, they fooled me once in '95, once again in '98. and I think I accidentally installed a version in '01). Now when I see a site that has streaming Real media, I mail their admin and ask if they have heard of Divx:-) and Bittorrent, rather than trying to watch it buffering.
By that definition, a customer has never walked into a store.
I think that illustrates the point the other poster was trying to make. If there are thousands of people using the software, and many asking for support, then I can't see how directing them to a website that explains how one gets support (by buying the product) would be so difficult.
It's got to be pay to work, because the scarcity properties of digital artifacts and our understanding of economics makes paying a hefty price more difficult than it would be normally. Especially if all we are paying for is the right to flip bits in a certain direction and in a prescribed consistent pattern.
I'm not being a jerk, or saying everything should be free. Far from it. It's just a difficult problem to solve that involves changing the way certain ideas are concieved of. Looking at how difficult the problme is, at its core, is all I'm trying to get at with the above.
However, the 'customer' thing goes back to the bazaars, and anybody who walks by your place is a 'potentail customer'. This, as it turns out statistically, make them part of a customer, and if you treat the part like the whole, it will become it.
The irony is that he spends an order of magnitude more time talking about 4 months from before half the electorate was born than his past 20 years in the Senate.
That would be the 'echo chamber' talking about it. Kerry keeps trying to steer things back to modern issues, like health care, jobs, and our 1,000/1 young men to Saddam 'victory ratio'.
And how exactly do you prevent somebody from building their own 'rental' library for all of this transferrable content? Now you've got one copy of a movie in circulation being 'rented' out to hundreds or thousands of individuals.
the anti-corporate left? To make money is evil, after all...
As a proud member of the anti-corporate left, I can honestly tell you that you have no idea what most of the complaints we have are about, if you think that we think 'making money' is evil.
One of the points that Wittgenstein brought to light was that many political and philosophical arguments are nothing more than misunderstandings about what various words mean, and then people use them in ways that other people don't agree with, and argument results.
Computer code alleviates this problem, but it does come back in discussions about computer code, strangely enough.
It would take more then that, all the energy in the Universe is finite, it would take infinate energy.
So that would be where the concept of infinite breaks down. Or maybe it's just that hard to accelerate matter. If this a math/astrophysics thing you are sure of, or is this just a general opinion?
I was not assuming photons have mass, I'm assuming that an observer, traveling at a relative speed to the photon, would.
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Do three things for me.
Define Islam.
Define Muslim.
Define Islamist.
Then try and be consistent in their use. You haven't been. Let's simplify.
Also, have a nice day.
As you didn't mention trees or string, it is positively disingenious for you to redefine what you mean by progress post-hoc.
You miss the part where I said "no longer directly followed by...direct violence to the name-called"?
Well, there it is again, in case you missed it the first time.
Cosby came from a generation where the word was used to divide and denigrate, 'kids today' have a different impression of its use, dude. You can blame hip-hop if you want, but that's the fact, jack.
Cosby was 27 before he was guaranteed by law not to be discriminated against for the color of his skin, so I'm sure he has a more deeply entrenched dislike for its use. He certainly came by it naturally.
Birth Name: William H. Cosby Jr.
Birthdate: July 12, 1937
You kinda sound like this fool.No, actually they would have laughed at you trying to 'be black'. Without the power of law behind the racism, they are just names, and can never hurt you. Stick and stones, etc.
nice, a /. comment containing an ad hominen, versus a fully researched 3-page essay. You be the judge.
Islamic
Islamic law in practice is rather bloody in its prescribed punishments.
Sharia law, when interpreted by backwoods nutjobs, is quite like that. 'Islamic' law, like that in Indonesia, isn't quite up to the barbarism you subscribe to all Muslims (note, see defintion of terms). To wit. Go here and see how their latest elections are turning out.
As far as I'm concerned I see where he is coming from. It is a bit over-reaching but not unwarranted.
That would explain your confusion.
Islam is to Muslim what Protestant is to Christianity. But the main difference is that Islamists believe in a political superiority that drives a nationalistic expansion of their law to the whole world. It is the mixture of the political ambitions with the Muslim religion that makes one an Islamist.
Dictionary. Look into it.
Islam - A monotheistic religion characterized by the acceptance of the doctrine of submission to God and to Muhammad as the chief and last prophet of God.
Muslim - A believer in or adherent of Islam.
Islamofascist Terrorists - 'Them'.
When you start to confuse the terms, as you have done consistently throughout this conversation, you are not helping, merely expanding the number of people that must be destroyed before peace can come again.
The fact that you think "Islam" is some sort of Muslim Protestant tells me that you are quite confused about who it is you are talking about. Considering this problem in endemic nowadays (at least in my country), I can understand the problem and will give you another chance to explain yourself.
It is my opinion, based on this conversation so far, that you wouldn't be capable of writing Charles an email without insulting him, his site, or his views, and asking that he try to keep the intellectual highground on this point.
It is my opinion, based on experience, that it doesn't matter.
However, to illustrate my point, I have done as you asked.
Websites don't make people hate. The decision to hate or not to hate is up to the individual.
Correct, websites just provide information with which to rationalize that hatred. That's a very important point, write it down.
LGF does often carry some interesting information.
Yes, they do. Their discussion of Rachel Corrie includes particularly enlightening pieces of information.
Perhaps their lives would improve if they stopped giving the civilized world quite so much to point at in this regard.
Talk about a tangent. Perhaps their lives would improve if the illegal occupation of Palestine was ended.
But what is interesting to me is that of those posts I could only see three references to the whole Muslim religion by name -- and two were from your commentary.
I see why you are confused. When someone on LGF talks about the 'death cult' they mean Islam.
"These people" is another way to blur the line and castigate a quarter of the world's population for the actions of a single teacher.
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I'm with Bill Cosby on this one, calling people 'nigga' is not progress.
It's not better than calling someone 'nigger' and then stringing them up to a tree? I guess we have different conceptions of what progess is, in that case.
I have seen a few rants from various folks about the overuse of the word, and they make a number of good points. I've even read the book by the title, but the simple fact is that it is an improvement that the word is no longer routinely followed by acts of racial violence. Or, to be more precise and on-thread-topic, it is no longer routinely used for stereotyping an entire race as stupid, backwards, and violent. Instead, it has become a general equivalent of "Dude".
This does not assume there still isn't room for improvement, quite the contrary, but we had a really long way to go from where we used to be.
Yes apparently so. What was that point again?
LGF does what it can to paint Islam as a religion of violence and to stir up hatred for those that follow it.
Who for all the problems not withstanding
is an eye-witness to the account.
Yes, an eyewitness who is a child and who's translated account is refuted by a number of other sources.
The actions of a disgruntled school teacher who was punished (albeit too lightly for my tastes) does not indict a expansionist political movement nor religion. Well, not on its own. It only points to the person committing the attrocity.
Then pray tell, why is the title of the post, penned by Mr. Johnson, "Discipline, Islamic Style"?
So just what is that point --precisely?
That citing a questionable source, refuted by others, and deciding that source confirms that notion that Islam, as a whole, is a religon of violence, is a great example on how to run a hate site.
Your statement here reflects something of a strange disconnect on this topic.
I've read Zombie's comments and they were rather reasonable in that regard, he differentiated between Islam and Muslim just as you expect him/her to do.
As yes, the difference between Islam and Muslim is what exactly? In my understanding, one is a religion and the other is someone who follows it. Perhaps you can enlighten me a bit here.
Is it like the difference between Islamic Extremists and the other 99% of the Muslim population of the world, or did you just make a Freudian typo?
Also, speaking of psychosis.This makes my point precisely. Regardless of what actually happened, it still points to the 'fact' that Islam is psychotic. Also, it's pretty obvious that Zombie feels this applies to the religion as a whole. LGF propagates this position on a daily basis.
Thank you for making my point.
From comment #358, who just read the main post and didn't follow the comments.And so the hate grows.
Why don't you politely email Charles and ask him to say something about it.
Give it a shot. See how quick you get banned for 'not seeing the problem'.
Really, give it a shot. Let me know how it goes. Three people posted it in the thread, yet...
If there is a discrepancy, this is where 'journalism' comes in, and you try and get as close to the truth as possible. That's not the goal for LGF. It's a hate site. Its purpose is to point out how unworthy of life (extremist) Muslims are. And those parenthesis have an inversely proportional relationship with the amount of anger each particular story generates. The more hate, the quicker they fade.
If CBS would like to do the equivalent...
CBS has admitted their error. However, like the man who missed the forest for the trees, the rest of the story is still quite solid.
Nice catch. Unfortunately you would be sad to learn that I live in Harlem, and the phrase used above is a colloquial version of "you are full of shit." The main point being that the word has been able to enter popular culture because it's utterance is no longer directly followed by, or is an implied threat of, direct violence against the name-called. A linguistic pavlovian response that has been mediated by cultural progess.
NO, you are simply wrong, or have never read a single thread on LGF. Additionally, you haven't explained why Charles can't update his post and apologize for being a bigot and assuming the worst.
But the error, of course, is that you are the one who extended the observations on a whole religion.
So, it's an error to think the whole religion is nuts? Great, glad we agree. Let's look at that thread, see if we can get a feel for the LGF mindset regarding that question.
Selected quotes from that thread (this gets long, as one would expect a preponderance of evidence to do)
Why doesn't Charles fix it? Honesty. Plain, ole, honesty. Or maybe it's called 'journalistic integrity'. Chuck lost that mantle a couple years ago, though, so now the bar is lowered. And he still can't make it.
Hate makes you stupid, and, it would seem, deceitful.
But damn are they focused on those memos.
Actually, the best explanation comes from LGF itself, and not the apologists who agree with them.
Here's one from a few days ago. What's the difference between 'cut' and 'chops off'?
Bigotry. Plain and simple. Read down to comment #15 to see this.
Here's how it works. You take a small segement of a population.Then apply it to everyone with one of the same qualities. Oh, also make sure to attack the intellect of anyone who disagrees.BTW, what 'no rational person' can deny is that *the second* a Muslim gets his hands on a bomb, THEY WANT TO USE IT TO KILL US ALL IMMEDIATELY.
THEY, the Muslims, ARE HEADED RIGHT FOR US! We have to get 'them' first.
They have been a big proponent of the meme that it doesn't matter which Muslims we kill, as long as we are killing some of them. This is the same "logic" that says the War in Iraq is somehow the War on Terrorism. It's the logic of Al Qeada. To believe this line of thinking, you have to think the Mahdi Militia was about to invade the U.S. proper. To believe this, you have to believe that 135 people have been kidnapped in Iraq because 'they hate our Freedom and values'.
It just does not make sense...unless you look at it through the eyes of fear and bigotry.
You quickly come to conclusion after reading LGF, as one must to not get banned, that 'they' believe there is only one final solution to the Muslim problem.
Faster...faster...
Little Green Footballs is often misunderstood, but I like them.
I don't see what's to misunderstand, LGF is a running argument for the extermination of the Muslim religion (and those that are stupid enough to believe in it), and the many, many, many, reasons for doing so.
They do their job very well.
No doubt about that.
funny how they are such a stickler for CBS memos, but when it comes to innacurate stories about Muslims, it's go-time baby!
Evidence. Read down to comment #15, if you can stomach that much bigotry. It puts Charles Johnson's 'journalistic integrity' directly on display.
BTW, the memos have shown two thing about the 'sphere. It's good for establishing technical facts, and piss-poor for putting them in context.
Pretty much like other AI's.
thanks. that one looks to have gotten a wee bit better over the years. :-)
Hehe.
Kerry wants socialized medicine, which is what Canada and Cuba have.
Err, and pretty much every other advanced democracy on the planet. There is one major reason (that's not talked about) for why we don't have this here in the U.S. and it's our old friend 'racism'. Really, go back and read Congressional debate in the 50's and think for a moment how easy it would have been to convince the Dixiecrats that all the blacks in this country not only deserved the right to vote, but also deserved a decent shot at a healthy life.
Also, since we are a compassionate society, we treat everyone that comes into an emergency room. There is an economic problem that results here, as these unaccounted for emergency room visits can have astronomical costs. And they are often for small problems that have simply been left untreated for years, and allowed to swell. In many cases, 10 $100 Dr. visits can be used to avoid 1 $50,000 surgery. Mix in the costs for lawyers, insurance company profits, etc, and it's not hard to see why health care costs are skyrocketing. There is a better way to deal with the problem.
This is a no-brainer, really. But to each their own. I'm curious as to why you think it's bad. Please avoid using an 'ism' tautology, and give me actual reasons.
Jobs: Yes, Wal-Mart is hiring. There is a big shift going on, as we moved from a manufacturing to service oriented economy. The problem is that many services can be done by people in country with good education and heathcare systems, so the employers don't have to pay for either. Converse that with the U.S., where healthcare is becoming a huge part of worker expense, and you see how this ties back in. Additionally, it would be simple to stop the exporting of jobs. Simply that any company that wants to sell products to Americans must pay at least minimum wage to all it's employees, regardless of location. If you take away some of the incentive to export jobs, you can slow what is a dangerous trend, IMHO. And slowing is all one needs to do, as the other side should, if they have some sort of economic freedom, rise up to reach something of an equilibrium over time. It's the speed of change that is dangerous, not the change itself, that is inevitable.
In addition, how many of his own people did Saddam order killed?More than we have? So far?
I'm sorry, we also killed about 15,000 - 20,000 Iraqi civilians for Saddam's crimes. Yes, I understand the 'we got a bad man trump card', but right now the war is looking like crap. Not only do we today not have control over large portions of the country, but because Bush is now worried about the Iraqi's "Bringing It On", and the news talking about how many more people are dieing in the wars, we are not going on the offensive and extending the occupation for political reasons(Hey, Zell, Bush calls it an occupation too). We will be in Iraq for 5 to 10 years, depending on how long we want to bleed, or how long it takes them to get together a big enough bomb to blow up one of the 6 permanent bases we have built there. Heck, it seems right now the goal is to start a civil war, and then sneak out the back. BTW, when they say 'Training Iraqi Police Forces to Take Over the Fight Against the Insurgency', that means 'civil war', as it would be Iraqi on Iraqi.
Iraq is our very own West Bank...but at least we got Saddam.
he was right.
:-) and Bittorrent, rather than trying to watch it buffering.
That question did have a 'What are you guys gonna do since you suck so bad?' feel to it.
He was dead-on in his assessment of the attitude of the question. Great answer.
I'm still not going to install Real on my computer (sorry, they fooled me once in '95, once again in '98. and I think I accidentally installed a version in '01). Now when I see a site that has streaming Real media, I mail their admin and ask if they have heard of Divx
Woah, slow down there TedT.
By that definition, a customer has never walked into a store.
I think that illustrates the point the other poster was trying to make. If there are thousands of people using the software, and many asking for support, then I can't see how directing them to a website that explains how one gets support (by buying the product) would be so difficult.
It's got to be pay to work, because the scarcity properties of digital artifacts and our understanding of economics makes paying a hefty price more difficult than it would be normally. Especially if all we are paying for is the right to flip bits in a certain direction and in a prescribed consistent pattern.
I'm not being a jerk, or saying everything should be free. Far from it. It's just a difficult problem to solve that involves changing the way certain ideas are concieved of. Looking at how difficult the problme is, at its core, is all I'm trying to get at with the above.
However, the 'customer' thing goes back to the bazaars, and anybody who walks by your place is a 'potentail customer'. This, as it turns out statistically, make them part of a customer, and if you treat the part like the whole, it will become it.
The irony is that he spends an order of magnitude more time talking about 4 months from before half the electorate was born than his past 20 years in the Senate.
That would be the 'echo chamber' talking about it. Kerry keeps trying to steer things back to modern issues, like health care, jobs, and our 1,000/1 young men to Saddam 'victory ratio'.
And how exactly do you prevent somebody from building their own 'rental' library for all of this transferrable content? Now you've got one copy of a movie in circulation being 'rented' out to hundreds or thousands of individuals.
that's what public libraries are for.
picking nits...
We (the U.S.) get more oil from Saudi Arabia than any other nation.
A semantic quibble.
the anti-corporate left? To make money is evil, after all...
As a proud member of the anti-corporate left, I can honestly tell you that you have no idea what most of the complaints we have are about, if you think that we think 'making money' is evil.
As you were.
really, it's not.
if that's the case.
One of the points that Wittgenstein brought to light was that many political and philosophical arguments are nothing more than misunderstandings about what various words mean, and then people use them in ways that other people don't agree with, and argument results.
Computer code alleviates this problem, but it does come back in discussions about computer code, strangely enough.
It would take more then that, all the energy in the Universe is finite, it would take infinate energy.
So that would be where the concept of infinite breaks down. Or maybe it's just that hard to accelerate matter. If this a math/astrophysics thing you are sure of, or is this just a general opinion?
I was not assuming photons have mass, I'm assuming that an observer, traveling at a relative speed to the photon, would.