It was this thinking that allowed for the rise of Microsoft. Or maybe it was the huge licensing fees. From the GNU Manifesto Once GNU is written, everyone will be able to obtain good system software free, just like air. Following that, shouldn't it be just as easy to use?
I'm not saying that consumers shouldn't be allowed to use Linux. I'm saying that consumer interests should not be allowed to damage Linux.
I don't see how they can, other than invading newsgroups and flooding newbie questions. But, when this happens, paying for Service comes into play. Regardless, the whole thing is based on choice, even if a new super-easy GUI distro comes out, you don't have to use it. Just because there are more layers on top doesn't mean you have to use them.
Change is always difficult to deal with. What I see in this post (and the others like it) is akin to a father watching his daughter go out on her first date. "Touch her and die!" You may shout, but if you had listened to that advice, she would never have existed. Trust that you raised her well and gave her the tools to deal with unwanted advances.
I'm not sure games are the best choice to test for usablility sake.
Yes, they are. Games on Windows are in VERY good shape. Two clicks from CD/Net to action. Most are quite stable. I'm just starting Linux gaming, but already I know it is WAAAY behind. When terms like "Good luck, not for the faint of heart" comes up in the help file, well, it's time to buy more caffeine.
Thus, an independant study shows, in 1999 Win98 is a far superior gaming platform. The 1999 part will most likely disappear after 2 years or so. Cynical and Microsoft = Effect and Cause.
If I had my 'druthers, I'd make our criticism more polite and better organized, but I'd not eliminate it.
I dunno, I think flaming has it's place. All it really is is raw emotion and a violent outpouring of opinion. How important is it for companies to see that they are *really* pissing people off. Feedback is good for any organism. Flaming, a reaction akin to touching a hot stove, tells a company, quickly, Don't Do That! I agree that polite organized criticism is more effective, it's what I do, but sometimes you need an edge to pierce thick armor, corporate armor. A bit metaphorical, but I think it holds.
Software Maker: No problem (walks away with tail between legs)
Enough money is being moved into Linux now that many of the remaining issues, err, issue (usability) will be solved. Enough competition is coming in to force improvements and increase innovation (MSFIN, haha). Enough people use it now and understand the philosophy behind it, that it can't be changed or subverted. Free software is here to stay. enjoy.
Everyone should the read the article, the investigators clearly state, it wasn't the guns, it was the HATE. If you want to question the investigators fine, but until you do it after 4 months of continuous study, I'll stick with their opinion.
It's probably not a rational feeling (especially after reading this article about media irresponsibility) but I've seen and read far too much about the violence in American society.
It's not a rational feeling, it's an emotional one. That's what a constant bombardment of images can do to you, no matter how logically you think about it. Our nightly news is in a constant fight for ratings, to come on and say, "aah nothing much happened today." would quickly lead to loss of job. That's why it's much more common to start "3 people slain in vicious massacre." Thus highlighting every single bad event, just to get people to watch. It's very safe in most places (would you break in if you thought somebody inside might be waiting with a gun?), and very dangerous (if you would then you are desperate, a desperate man is dangerous)in others, the bell curve seems to come out in free societies.
They basically steal because they know the law and cause the price of everything else to go up. They are the single biggest factor in limiting freedom in this (US) country, as well as representing the rich and repressing the poor. (if I can afford someone to bend the law for me and you can't, I win). Oh yeah, most politicians are lawyers, so there ya go.
When I hear "You've got Mail" I think "Sleepless in Seattle", but then again I think all sorts of strange things.
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I disagree. All that link does is allow you to buy if you are so inclined. There is nothing forcing you. If Katz gave the book a glowing review, and you bought it, and hated it so much you burned it, then you wouldn't ever listen to Katz's opinion again (...). The commercial interests are there and they have to be. Rob and team need to eat (although that other thread says that won't ever be a problem again). The thing that makes the Net so powerful is that one step from research to purchase, facillitating that is what made Bezos a billy-on-air. Personalization and trust become bigger factors in purchase decisions, not images of hot chicks and fire (like TV). Plus with the huge competition (which is not likely to go away since/. has shown that you can run a site from you house and end up a milly-on-air) if a site pisses you off, you can leave and never come again. If you did that with the major TV networks you would stop watching TV after, say, about 15 minutes.
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but it just feels like linux is going point and click, or./script. which isn't the best plan imho.
but you can still do it the way you want. Nothing can stop a diehard CLI user. This just makes it more accessible. The problem I see with this is users who think they know what they're doing, fscking up their systems and blaming Linux.
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everything is gonna be allright.
An extremely sad tone came through this article. What about this book made Katz so sad? Capitalism might be keeping the web from being a totally open forum, but it sure is employing a whole lot of web people. One advantage that we have (those that want to keep it free) is home field advantage. Everything and everybody else that comes now, has to come to our house, steal the cow, and lock the door on the way out. It's a lot easier to do that if somebody doesn't already live there. The recent Corel licensing stories are a sign of the strength of the community. The message "don't cater to us, and we won't use your stuff." That's a powerful message.
Criminals alwasy find a way to leverage physical force for money. It's an old, old, game. Of course, being able to do it remotely and internationally, is just cool as all hell. When's a good CRACKER movie coming out??
Why do you think they are embracing Linux? Their machines are cool and when Linux runs natively and the GIMP goes 3D, they could fight the macs in High End Graphics (after getting whalloped by NT). Remember the Titanic!
case in point, there was a reply from a guy from a guy who has Linux crashing every 4-6 hours. I saw two posts later trying to contact him and help him with the problem. I've seen the same thing here a few times (once at the botton of 20 deep flame war). I replies to my own replies for fun and enjoyment. (I just wish I could edit them...)
Now the best part is - the readers provide the content for nothing.
*cough* umm, what content does/. have other than the comments? Not trashing the dot just saying...
Anyway ZDNet's talkback is stupid, you can't even reply to and point out the boneheadedness of other's replies,/. definitely has the best talkback setup I've seen. (yes, I know it is modeled like Usenet, why change a good thing)
Face it, *CONSUMERS* want SIMPLE, CHEAP, DISPOSABLE APPLIANCES. Slashdot users aren't representative of the general populace that will decide the success
No, they are representative of the early adopters that help a company decide if the product is viable for a larger market.
I switched. I'll never waste time futzing around on my computer for games again.
They you'll never play truly challenging, unique games again. The computer game market is so much more sophisticated than the console market. Ave age PC gamer:30, ave. age console game:17.
Go play Alpha Centauri on a console and tell me what you think. Better yet, go download the demo of Unreal Tournament to your console and tell me how it plays. Hardcore gamers want hardcore machines, consoles are for kiddies.
No I'm saying that the reliability of my computer and my phone line are less than my computer by itself. The reliability of the server and everything in between comes into play. Not to mention the extra vulnerability that comes from having this type of setup. Backups would actually be an advantage of thin clients, but I don't think people in general want to give up their machines. It seems to me a lot like the difference between public transportation and having your own car. Americans are great wasters and computing power is no exception.
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Of course, it's also difficult to run down a family of four with a computer.
Unix isn't about catering to the consumer.
It was this thinking that allowed for the rise of Microsoft. Or maybe it was the huge licensing fees. From the GNU Manifesto Once GNU is written, everyone will be able to obtain good system software free, just like air. Following that, shouldn't it be just as easy to use?
I'm not saying that consumers shouldn't be allowed to use Linux. I'm saying that consumer interests should not be allowed to damage Linux.
I don't see how they can, other than invading newsgroups and flooding newbie questions. But, when this happens, paying for Service comes into play. Regardless, the whole thing is based on choice, even if a new super-easy GUI distro comes out, you don't have to use it. Just because there are more layers on top doesn't mean you have to use them.
Change is always difficult to deal with. What I see in this post (and the others like it) is akin to a father watching his daughter go out on her first date. "Touch her and die!" You may shout, but if you had listened to that advice, she would never have existed. Trust that you raised her well and gave her the tools to deal with unwanted advances.
I'm not sure games are the best choice to test for usablility sake.
Yes, they are. Games on Windows are in VERY good shape. Two clicks from CD/Net to action. Most are quite stable. I'm just starting Linux gaming, but already I know it is WAAAY behind. When terms like "Good luck, not for the faint of heart" comes up in the help file, well, it's time to buy more caffeine.
Thus, an independant study shows, in 1999 Win98 is a far superior gaming platform. The 1999 part will most likely disappear after 2 years or so. Cynical and Microsoft = Effect and Cause.
Having small programs that do their job well, and can be mixed up with others are the basic philosophy of Unix's.
Keep 'em. Just associate a new looonngger version (perhaps to give a bit of context) with grammatical (not cryptic) switches.
Once people learn the long version they can still pick up the short one later.
The first one to create a very easy Linux will cash in, just watch.
yea, why would anybody want to use monthly fee-based hosted apps when they can get them for free? ASP will be the next "push" failure.
...and then we go 3d and the whole thing starts again, at least for the brave or stupid.
of the momentum building behind a big wave. We just happen to be at the core.
If I had my 'druthers, I'd make our criticism more polite and better organized, but I'd not eliminate it.
I dunno, I think flaming has it's place. All it really is is raw emotion and a violent outpouring of opinion. How important is it for companies to see that they are *really* pissing people off. Feedback is good for any organism. Flaming, a reaction akin to touching a hot stove, tells a company, quickly, Don't Do That! I agree that polite organized criticism is more effective, it's what I do, but sometimes you need an edge to pierce thick armor, corporate armor. A bit metaphorical, but I think it holds.
Software Maker: Here, try this.
Software User: HEY WAIT A GODDAMN SECOND, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO OPEN AND FREE!!!! (continues for 72 pages...)
Software Maker: Whoa, just kiddin' folks. Here, try this.
(Software Maker's lawyers: Dang!)
Software User: That's better. Thanks.
Software Maker: No problem (walks away with tail between legs)
Enough money is being moved into Linux now that many of the remaining issues, err, issue (usability) will be solved. Enough competition is coming in to force improvements and increase innovation (MSFIN, haha). Enough people use it now and understand the philosophy behind it, that it can't be changed or subverted. Free software is here to stay. enjoy.
about another recently departed motion pictrure maker...
"Stanley (Kubrick) was a genius," he said, chuckling, "but he was as crazy as a shithouse mouse."
hmm..
I used to watch Patton (the first scene, in front of the flag) with my football team before games, quite inspirational, that.
..the martian AA guns ain't easy either.
Everyone should the read the article, the investigators clearly state, it wasn't the guns, it was the HATE. If you want to question the investigators fine, but until you do it after 4 months of continuous study, I'll stick with their opinion.
It's probably not a rational feeling (especially after reading this article about media irresponsibility) but I've seen and read far too much about the violence in American society.
It's not a rational feeling, it's an emotional one. That's what a constant bombardment of images can do to you, no matter how logically you think about it. Our nightly news is in a constant fight for ratings, to come on and say, "aah nothing much happened today." would quickly lead to loss of job. That's why it's much more common to start "3 people slain in vicious massacre." Thus highlighting every single bad event, just to get people to watch. It's very safe in most places (would you break in if you thought somebody inside might be waiting with a gun?), and very dangerous (if you would then you are desperate, a desperate man is dangerous)in others, the bell curve seems to come out in free societies.
They basically steal because they know the law and cause the price of everything else to go up. They are the single biggest factor in limiting freedom in this (US) country, as well as representing the rich and repressing the poor. (if I can afford someone to bend the law for me and you can't, I win). Oh yeah, most politicians are lawyers, so there ya go.
When I hear "You've got Mail" I think "Sleepless in Seattle", but then again I think all sorts of strange things.
I disagree. All that link does is allow you to buy if you are so inclined. There is nothing forcing you. If Katz gave the book a glowing review, and you bought it, and hated it so much you burned it, then you wouldn't ever listen to Katz's opinion again (...). /. has shown that you can run a site from you house and end up a milly-on-air) if a site pisses you off, you can leave and never come again. If you did that with the major TV networks you would stop watching TV after, say, about 15 minutes.
The commercial interests are there and they have to be. Rob and team need to eat (although that other thread says that won't ever be a problem again). The thing that makes the Net so powerful is that one step from research to purchase, facillitating that is what made Bezos a billy-on-air. Personalization and trust become bigger factors in purchase decisions, not images of hot chicks and fire (like TV). Plus with the huge competition (which is not likely to go away since
but it just feels like linux is going point and click, or ./script. which isn't the best plan imho.
but you can still do it the way you want. Nothing can stop a diehard CLI user. This just makes it more accessible. The problem I see with this is users who think they know what they're doing, fscking up their systems and blaming Linux.
everything is gonna be allright.
An extremely sad tone came through this article. What about this book made Katz so sad? Capitalism might be keeping the web from being a totally open forum, but it sure is employing a whole lot of web people. One advantage that we have (those that want to keep it free) is home field advantage. Everything and everybody else that comes now, has to come to our house, steal the cow, and lock the door on the way out. It's a lot easier to do that if somebody doesn't already live there.
The recent Corel licensing stories are a sign of the strength of the community. The message "don't cater to us, and we won't use your stuff." That's a powerful message.
Criminals alwasy find a way to leverage physical force for money. It's an old, old, game. Of course, being able to do it remotely and internationally, is just cool as all hell. When's a good CRACKER movie coming out??
They should fix their mistake and apologize.
Why do you think they are embracing Linux? Their machines are cool and when Linux runs natively and the GIMP goes 3D, they could fight the macs in High End Graphics (after getting whalloped by NT). Remember the Titanic!
I was looking for Dvorak's email to send him these, but it was accessible. How's that for reporting accountability?
case in point, there was a reply from a guy from a guy who has Linux crashing every 4-6 hours. I saw two posts later trying to contact him and help him with the problem. I've seen the same thing here a few times (once at the botton of 20 deep flame war). I replies to my own replies for fun and enjoyment.
(I just wish I could edit them...)
Now the best part is - the readers provide the content for nothing.
/. have other than the comments? Not trashing the dot just saying...
/. definitely has the best talkback setup I've seen. (yes, I know it is modeled like Usenet, why change a good thing)
*cough*
umm, what content does
Anyway ZDNet's talkback is stupid, you can't even reply to and point out the boneheadedness of other's replies,
Face it, *CONSUMERS* want SIMPLE, CHEAP, DISPOSABLE APPLIANCES. Slashdot users aren't representative of the general populace that will decide the success
No, they are representative of the early adopters that help a company decide if the product is viable for a larger market.
I switched. I'll never waste time futzing around on my computer for games again.
They you'll never play truly challenging, unique games again. The computer game market is so much more sophisticated than the console market. Ave age PC gamer:30, ave. age console game:17.
Go play Alpha Centauri on a console and tell me what you think.
Better yet, go download the demo of Unreal Tournament to your console and tell me how it plays. Hardcore gamers want hardcore machines, consoles are for kiddies.
No I'm saying that the reliability of my computer and my phone line are less than my computer by itself. The reliability of the server and everything in between comes into play. Not to mention the extra vulnerability that comes from having this type of setup.
Backups would actually be an advantage of thin clients, but I don't think people in general want to give up their machines. It seems to me a lot like the difference between public transportation and having your own car. Americans are great wasters and computing power is no exception.