Let them try to operate a PC with Linux installed. The first three who don't cry win ribbons.
I know, its a joke, etc. but for interest's sake: my 3-year-old uses Gnome desktop all the time (using since he was 2). He knows the menus, can launch his games, drawing programs, launch a web browser and watch youtube. If you were to put him in front of my work Windows 7 desktop he'd find the FireFox quickstart icon okay, but to launch games or other programs he'd be lost because the start menu morphs so much: click start, program I want isn't in "most recently used?", click tiny "All Programs" at bottom of list, now you've got a beautiful huge scrolling list of folders with no icons indicating their contents. Which one has games? Drawing programs?
Of course either desktop environment could be made to have quick launch icons for everything, but out of the box I think Gnome is *far* easier for a little kid to use because it is consistent, and has icons for the folders. You click Applications and the menu is always the same, the icons always the same, items in same order. The default font/menu side in Gnome is also bigger, so easier for less-precise mouse jockeys to navigate.
I think you misunderstand what hypocrisy is. To be a hypocrite you have to actively push the opinion. You would have to stand there going "omg, Apple are awful, I'm never going to buy an Apple device again", and then actually directly contradict yourself by buying an apple device.
Simply disliking an action that Apple did, but liking their products enough that you still buy one does not make you a hypocrite.
hypocrite: a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
Note that OP said "people who are against action like this", not "people that don't actually care". Being internally inconsistent is still being a hypocrite, it's just only you that know about it. Pretending that your purchases aren't an implicit vote for a company and what it does is, as another poster said, denial.
I'm not trying to say anyone follows ideals 100%. I occasionally buy gas from the government-owned oil company, while I believe the government has no business being involved in petroleum sales. It makes me a hypocrite. But by recognizing it, one can at least think for the future "how can I support something I agree with".
They don't let a political argument between two companies stand in the way of buying the device they see as best suiting their needs.
In other words, people are hypocrites: They believe that one party is being evil[1] yet they turn around and vote with their pocket book to continue that evil.
And when enough of these people do nothing about it, the evil triumphs.
Calling it "political" when you actually believe it it wrong is simply a way to salve your consience.
[1] And I'm using the language of morality which may come into play, but it could simply be something economic: Something that is good for you in the short term, but you know in the long term it will be very bad for you, like a sub-prime mortage that lets you play now, but later will keep you eating kraft dinner.
My understanding was that this was about when someone goes through Customs. That happens when you arrive in the country, not when you are getting on a flight.
The ONLY purpose of DRM is to make sure they can deny access to a) pirates
BZZZT. Don't fall for that! DRM does not deny access to pirates, it just makes pirated works more valuable than the DRMed version. While you, the paying customer are now screwed because your book disappeared just when you tried to read it, the pirate can still read his book.
I don't disagree. I merely object to the implication that working such a job for low pay *necessarily* causes you to do stupid sh*t.
Another way of putting it (as someone in this thread has mentioned), is that low pay does not magically turn honest, hard working people into bums, and high pay does not magically turn dishonest, lazy people into star employees. (Certainly there exist a class of people who's scruples are merely are dictated by $, but it isn't everyone.)
As an extreme example, consider the endless high-payed corporate officer scandals. Their high salaries certainly didn't seem to make them think twice about doing stupid stuff.
If you're saying quality of work is directly proportional to the satisfaction in compensation (or, level of evilness is indirectly proportional to wage), then shouldn't the high school student be most likely to be satisfied with a lower wage (think summer job), and thus most likely to care about the job?
Of course creating a shitty work environ isn't going to help make great employees, but "You pay me poorly, therefore I'm going to do evil things" is a personal, moral problem, and is precisely the kind of attitude that will keep a person in that shitty job all their life.
This is what happens when you skip over qualified technicians to hire high school students or college dropouts who are 'good with computers' to save a little money.
Uh, no. This is what happens when you skip over reference checks/spending time to know your employees and hire unscrupulous technicians to save a little money.
"scouring through private photos, stealing passwords and over-charging for basic repairs" == moral problem, not a technical one.
I just saw this April 2009 video interview with John Carmack this morning, where he mentions that some of their NASA work is up in the air, pending the budget shakeout. Does this mean no more NASA work for Armadillo Aerospace?
It does emphasize one benefit of private research and development: not subject (as in "we kill you right now") to such political money shuffling.
Yes, OpenGL over the X transport (GLX) works fine and for low render-rate apps . However, in the context of this whole discussion it is pointless.
Right up front, the reason for the cloud is so that the end user can have a sucky graphics card and it will still look beautiful. The moment you transport OpenGL to the desktop you need the consumer having a card capable of rendering it.
More technically interesting, indirect OpenGL (AKA over GLX transport) has a massive performance cost. E.g. your glVertex() call that in direct rendering mode only needs to push a few bytes into memory suddenly needs to encode the call into GLX protocol, send it over a transport, and the server needs to loop over each render op, dispatching the GLX protocol back into a glVertex(). If your scene has a million vertex points you add a huge cost by going indirect.
+5 Insightful? I didn't realize so many Slashdot mods are as clued out as the below statement
He's lost grasp of the point of software. The point of software is not 'to run free software', its to get something done.
By saying this you demonstrate that a) you have no idea what the FSF is actually promoting, and b) have no idea of (or have forgotten) computing history for the last few decades.
Stallman and the FSF have been campaigning for software freedom precisely because the short-term "I just want to get something done" attitude to software will inevitably lead you to to a position where someone has control over you and screws you. Computing history is full of examples, from the "sorry, we won't fix those bugs any more, you've got to upgrade even though you don't need to or want to" (a la Microsoft), to "Sorry, we're out of business, and even though the software works for you we can't make that one tiny fix you need; you'll have to change your entire process". (And those are just a few mild examples.)
When you take short-term convenience over long-term freedom, when you forget even recent computing history, YOU WILL GET SCREWED
Even if you don't agree with Stallman on everything, his regular reminders to not let a new form of technology to take away freedoms are very helpful to the industry and society as a whole.
That was a really, really, good article that Anandtech put tons of work into. So in response Slashdot hammers them with a zillion people jumping directly to the printable page link? No ad impressions for them, and more bandwidth hit from those that don't read the whole thing. That wasn't nice.
I'm just as likely to hit the printable link as the next guy when a site has a terrible ads, or content/ad ratio, but Anandtech didn't deserve this.
Google security researcher Chris Evans has a very informative blog post which notes that to avoid attacks like this one you must set your http proxy to localhost:1 thus killing all http traffic and only letting https (to your bank) go through.
1. Product is canceled / killed 2. Developers that know anything about the project are axed or leave 3. The source control repository sits untouched for year(s). 4. SCM admins decide the project really is dead, and it can stop wasting prime reliable/backed-up-/offsite storage. Project is archived to offline media. 5. Now the project is not online, people that worked on it are gone, and managers that worked with it don't want to remember. After another few years people barely even remember it existed. 6. What's happened to the code? It literally is sitting on physical media gathering cobwebs.
Which is almost no one who reads this site. The vast majority of IT jobs are basically unattainable to anyone without a college degree unless you want to work in the ever-shrinking field of 'help desk monkey'.
Question: Has this been your actual observation or just gut feeling from job postings?
I ask because after 10 years in the IT industry I've seen more and more that the degree isn't a requirement. HR always tacks on "B.sc.", but increasingly adds, "or equivalent experience". Some of the most talented people I've worked with have no degree. Usually the degree has been substituted with a love for their work. When it comes down to it I'll take that over a degree any time.
I got fast Internet in my room and proceed to web browse as normal.I used IM and skype from my local connection too.
For you browsing "as normal" doesn't include Wikipedia? I was in China (South-eastern part) for the last month. I found many sites blocked (besides Wikipedia), especially Chinese-language news sites which the typical westerner will never visit and thus not notice being blocked. Also some religious sites that e.g. host an online Bible were blocked (but others not). If all you're doing is browsing/. and that type of site you'll probably not notice much.
I noticed that sometimes the BBC news site would load and sometimes it would not. During those "down" times I simply used hamachi to VPN to my server at home and browse from there via Remote Desktop. I guess this is no different to corporate laptops that proxy though their companies VPN for all web activities.
For you or me loading up the VPN alternate is simple (if slow; my work VPN was limited to ~5k/s). For the average* Chinese internet user, you have no VPN and (like Joe net user in the West) no idea of how to get one. (*: Average is, of course, a misnomer; if you have a computer and net access in China you're definitely not "average" from a statistical point of view).
In short I guess the great firewall was overrated?
I guess your surfing habits must already conform to the Chinese Communist Party's wishes.:)
For a good week while I was in China the whole internet seemed to suddenly shut down, with way more sites blocked, and very slow too. Connections were actively killed with TCP resets. I was told this was because of the 17th national congress.
Either your are deliberately trolling, or the "last time you looked" you didn't really try. Either way you have no clue what you're talking about.
Yes Cinelerra is nowhere near as popular as other NLEs, but this?
As for Cinelerra, I would guess that no professional editor would have ever even heard the name, let alone have a clue about what it is.
Well, even I couldn't quite figure out what it was supposed to be last time I looked at their site. Apparently also some sort of special effects rendering thing, except it cannot import from or export to your editing program, so I'm not sure what it might be used for.
Did you even try? As the first google hit would have told you, "Cinelerra does primarily 3 main things: capturing, compositing, and editing". Cinelerra is a NLE -- E stands for EDITOR. You don't "export to your editing program" it *is* the editing program.
Finally, as that same link points out, cinelerra.org is a more appropriate community site searching for Cinelerra documentation. I'm not sure what your google search "experiment" is supposed to tell us. You couldn't find your specific terminology on the one site you searched therefore the functionality doesn't exist? C'mon. Heroine Virtual, which is *not* trying to sell Cinelerra and doesn't have a marketing dept. doesn't mention Avid or FCP proves something?
I have edited a few personal DVDs with Cinelerra. While it may not be perfect, it has come a long way in the last few years in terms of features and stability. The kind of non-information you're spewing doesn't help anyone.
The beauty of the manual counting system is verification:
There is no machine invisibly doing things. Instead the polling official (someone from the local area hired just for the election) counts, while a representative of each party (that cares enough to send a rep.) counts along with them. The official must show each ballot to the reps, and if there's any question the ballot is set aside and examined at the end, the official deciding ultimately if its spoiled or not.
This way there's none of this "counting fraud" silliness going on as in the States.
Perhaps my troll/sarcasm detector is malfunctioning today, but there is no reason you cannot do the same thing on any other platform, or with any other svn client. TortoiseSVN is just a good example.
Of course, Subversion is no more your friend than CVS in this case since neither can do proper diffs! It's binary data for f*ck sake! Subversion handles binaries better than CVS, but not for the reason you state.
Actually, GUI Subversion clients like TortoiseSVNcan show diffs for binary files like Word or OpenOffice, using the built-in diff capability of these programs. The end result is you can double-click your binary document and get a window showing you the differences.
The latest nightly TortoiseSVN builds even include an image diff viewer.
*that* is called a binary blob driver. It means if you're willing to give control of what kernel you run to this company then you can use their driver. Essentially this boils down to them controlling your whole machine and is why Linus refuses binary drivers. ("No, you can't use this new kernel feature", "no, you can't debug this crash", "sorry, we're out of business, you can't upgrade your kernel ever again") There's nothing to praise about that.
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I know, its a joke, etc. but for interest's sake: my 3-year-old uses Gnome desktop all the time (using since he was 2). He knows the menus, can launch his games, drawing programs, launch a web browser and watch youtube. If you were to put him in front of my work Windows 7 desktop he'd find the FireFox quickstart icon okay, but to launch games or other programs he'd be lost because the start menu morphs so much: click start, program I want isn't in "most recently used?", click tiny "All Programs" at bottom of list, now you've got a beautiful huge scrolling list of folders with no icons indicating their contents. Which one has games? Drawing programs?
Of course either desktop environment could be made to have quick launch icons for everything, but out of the box I think Gnome is *far* easier for a little kid to use because it is consistent, and has icons for the folders. You click Applications and the menu is always the same, the icons always the same, items in same order. The default font/menu side in Gnome is also bigger, so easier for less-precise mouse jockeys to navigate.
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I think you misunderstand what hypocrisy is. To be a hypocrite you have to actively push the opinion. You would have to stand there going "omg, Apple are awful, I'm never going to buy an Apple device again", and then actually directly contradict yourself by buying an apple device.
Simply disliking an action that Apple did, but liking their products enough that you still buy one does not make you a hypocrite.
hypocrite: a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
Note that OP said "people who are against action like this", not "people that don't actually care". Being internally inconsistent is still being a hypocrite, it's just only you that know about it. Pretending that your purchases aren't an implicit vote for a company and what it does is, as another poster said, denial.
I'm not trying to say anyone follows ideals 100%. I occasionally buy gas from the government-owned oil company, while I believe the government has no business being involved in petroleum sales. It makes me a hypocrite. But by recognizing it, one can at least think for the future "how can I support something I agree with".
Cheers,
-Malloc
Third possible explanation:
They don't let a political argument between two companies stand in the way of buying the device they see as best suiting their needs.
In other words, people are hypocrites: They believe that one party is being evil[1] yet they turn around and vote with their pocket book to continue that evil.
And when enough of these people do nothing about it, the evil triumphs.
Calling it "political" when you actually believe it it wrong is simply a way to salve your consience.
[1] And I'm using the language of morality which may come into play, but it could simply be something economic: Something that is good for you in the short term, but you know in the long term it will be very bad for you, like a sub-prime mortage that lets you play now, but later will keep you eating kraft dinner.
My understanding was that this was about when someone goes through Customs. That happens when you arrive in the country, not when you are getting on a flight.
It does, except when you come from Canada, where there's pre-flight customs clearance. And according to http://tinet.ita.doc.gov/view/m-2008-I-001/documents%5Ctop_20_countries.xls Canada is the top country of origin when flying into the US, so it affects a large number of people.
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The ONLY purpose of DRM is to make sure they can deny access to a) pirates
BZZZT. Don't fall for that! DRM does not deny access to pirates, it just makes pirated works more valuable than the DRMed version. While you, the paying customer are now screwed because your book disappeared just when you tried to read it, the pirate can still read his book.
-Malloc
From the Space Fellowship forum page: http://spacefellowship.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=396&start=1710
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_rqVBhwx6I
Also on the SF page, a bit of commentary from Matthew Ross, including that they've internally decided on a date for LLC 2.
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I don't disagree. I merely object to the implication that working such a job for low pay *necessarily* causes you to do stupid sh*t.
Another way of putting it (as someone in this thread has mentioned), is that low pay does not magically turn honest, hard working people into bums, and high pay does not magically turn dishonest, lazy people into star employees. (Certainly there exist a class of people who's scruples are merely are dictated by $, but it isn't everyone.)
As an extreme example, consider the endless high-payed corporate officer scandals. Their high salaries certainly didn't seem to make them think twice about doing stupid stuff.
If you're saying quality of work is directly proportional to the satisfaction in compensation (or, level of evilness is indirectly proportional to wage), then shouldn't the high school student be most likely to be satisfied with a lower wage (think summer job), and thus most likely to care about the job?
Of course creating a shitty work environ isn't going to help make great employees, but "You pay me poorly, therefore I'm going to do evil things" is a personal, moral problem, and is precisely the kind of attitude that will keep a person in that shitty job all their life.
This is what happens when you skip over qualified technicians to hire high school students or college dropouts who are 'good with computers' to save a little money.
Uh, no. This is what happens when you skip over reference checks/spending time to know your employees and hire unscrupulous technicians to save a little money.
"scouring through private photos, stealing passwords and over-charging for basic repairs" == moral problem, not a technical one.
-Malloc
I just saw this April 2009 video interview with John Carmack this morning, where he mentions that some of their NASA work is up in the air, pending the budget shakeout. Does this mean no more NASA work for Armadillo Aerospace?
It does emphasize one benefit of private research and development: not subject (as in "we kill you right now") to such political money shuffling.
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"4 pages longer than the document to which it was responding"
And?
...implying that, combined with their bogus arguments, is it's kind of like adding <rant> ... </rant> ?
Remote OpenGL is quite usable.
Yes, OpenGL over the X transport (GLX) works fine and for low render-rate apps . However, in the context of this whole discussion it is pointless.
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+5 Insightful? I didn't realize so many Slashdot mods are as clued out as the below statement
He's lost grasp of the point of software. The point of software is not 'to run free software', its to get something done.
By saying this you demonstrate that a) you have no idea what the FSF is actually promoting, and b) have no idea of (or have forgotten) computing history for the last few decades.
Stallman and the FSF have been campaigning for software freedom precisely because the short-term "I just want to get something done" attitude to software will inevitably lead you to to a position where someone has control over you and screws you. Computing history is full of examples, from the "sorry, we won't fix those bugs any more, you've got to upgrade even though you don't need to or want to" (a la Microsoft), to "Sorry, we're out of business, and even though the software works for you we can't make that one tiny fix you need; you'll have to change your entire process". (And those are just a few mild examples.)
When you take short-term convenience over long-term freedom, when you forget even recent computing history, YOU WILL GET SCREWED
Even if you don't agree with Stallman on everything, his regular reminders to not let a new form of technology to take away freedoms are very helpful to the industry and society as a whole.
That was a really, really, good article that Anandtech put tons of work into. So in response Slashdot hammers them with a zillion people jumping directly to the printable page link? No ad impressions for them, and more bandwidth hit from those that don't read the whole thing. That wasn't nice.
I'm just as likely to hit the printable link as the next guy when a site has a terrible ads, or content/ad ratio, but Anandtech didn't deserve this.
I think the emphasis was "with a radio system they designed and built themselves".
Uh, if an attacker can install a proxy on your machine on privileged port then you've got a whole lot more problems than browser security.
This discussion is about a *secure* machine getting taken in by extraneous http requests. The technique above blocks them.
Google security researcher Chris Evans has a very informative blog post which notes that to avoid attacks like this one you must set your http proxy to localhost:1 thus killing all http traffic and only letting https (to your bank) go through.
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In my observation at a commercial software firm:
1. Product is canceled / killed
2. Developers that know anything about the project are axed or leave
3. The source control repository sits untouched for year(s).
4. SCM admins decide the project really is dead, and it can stop wasting prime reliable/backed-up-/offsite storage. Project is archived to offline media.
5. Now the project is not online, people that worked on it are gone, and managers that worked with it don't want to remember. After another few years people barely even remember it existed.
6. What's happened to the code? It literally is sitting on physical media gathering cobwebs.
-Malloc
Which is almost no one who reads this site. The vast majority of IT jobs are basically unattainable to anyone without a college degree unless you want to work in the ever-shrinking field of 'help desk monkey'.
Question: Has this been your actual observation or just gut feeling from job postings?
I ask because after 10 years in the IT industry I've seen more and more that the degree isn't a requirement. HR always tacks on "B.sc.", but increasingly adds, "or equivalent experience". Some of the most talented people I've worked with have no degree. Usually the degree has been substituted with a love for their work. When it comes down to it I'll take that over a degree any time.
-Malloc
I got fast Internet in my room and proceed to web browse as normal.I used IM and skype from my local connection too.
For you browsing "as normal" doesn't include Wikipedia? I was in China (South-eastern part) for the last month. I found many sites blocked (besides Wikipedia), especially Chinese-language news sites which the typical westerner will never visit and thus not notice being blocked. Also some religious sites that e.g. host an online Bible were blocked (but others not). If all you're doing is browsing /. and that type of site you'll probably not notice much.
I noticed that sometimes the BBC news site would load and sometimes it would not. During those "down" times I simply used hamachi to VPN to my server at home and browse from there via Remote Desktop. I guess this is no different to corporate laptops that proxy though their companies VPN for all web activities.
For you or me loading up the VPN alternate is simple (if slow; my work VPN was limited to ~5k/s). For the average* Chinese internet user, you have no VPN and (like Joe net user in the West) no idea of how to get one. (*: Average is, of course, a misnomer; if you have a computer and net access in China you're definitely not "average" from a statistical point of view).
In short I guess the great firewall was overrated?
I guess your surfing habits must already conform to the Chinese Communist Party's wishes. :)
For a good week while I was in China the whole internet seemed to suddenly shut down, with way more sites blocked, and very slow too. Connections were actively killed with TCP resets. I was told this was because of the 17th national congress.
-MallocEither your are deliberately trolling, or the "last time you looked" you didn't really try. Either way you have no clue what you're talking about. Yes Cinelerra is nowhere near as popular as other NLEs, but this?
Maybe you should tell Linux Media Arts which sells professional NLE systems, based on Linux and Cinelerra. Oh yeah, at the recent opening of the Open Source Media Research Centre last month there were numerous engineering executives from the post-production industries as well as the main author of Cinelerra.Did you even try? As the first google hit would have told you, "Cinelerra does primarily 3 main things: capturing, compositing, and editing". Cinelerra is a NLE -- E stands for EDITOR. You don't "export to your editing program" it *is* the editing program.
Finally, as that same link points out, cinelerra.org is a more appropriate community site searching for Cinelerra documentation. I'm not sure what your google search "experiment" is supposed to tell us. You couldn't find your specific terminology on the one site you searched therefore the functionality doesn't exist? C'mon. Heroine Virtual, which is *not* trying to sell Cinelerra and doesn't have a marketing dept. doesn't mention Avid or FCP proves something?
I have edited a few personal DVDs with Cinelerra. While it may not be perfect, it has come a long way in the last few years in terms of features and stability. The kind of non-information you're spewing doesn't help anyone.
-MallocThe beauty of the manual counting system is verification:
There is no machine invisibly doing things. Instead the polling official (someone from the local area hired just for the election) counts, while a representative of each party (that cares enough to send a rep.) counts along with them. The official must show each ballot to the reps, and if there's any question the ballot is set aside and examined at the end, the official deciding ultimately if its spoiled or not.
This way there's none of this "counting fraud" silliness going on as in the States.
-Malloc
yet another reason to switch to windows !
Perhaps my troll/sarcasm detector is malfunctioning today, but there is no reason you cannot do the same thing on any other platform, or with any other svn client. TortoiseSVN is just a good example.
Cheers,-Malloc
Of course, Subversion is no more your friend than CVS in this case since neither can do proper diffs! It's binary data for f*ck sake! Subversion handles binaries better than CVS, but not for the reason you state.
Actually, GUI Subversion clients like TortoiseSVN can show diffs for binary files like Word or OpenOffice, using the built-in diff capability of these programs. The end result is you can double-click your binary document and get a window showing you the differences.
The latest nightly TortoiseSVN builds even include an image diff viewer.
-Malloc*that* is called a binary blob driver. It means if you're willing to give control of what kernel you run to this company then you can use their driver. Essentially this boils down to them controlling your whole machine and is why Linus refuses binary drivers. ("No, you can't use this new kernel feature", "no, you can't debug this crash", "sorry, we're out of business, you can't upgrade your kernel ever again") There's nothing to praise about that.
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