Why not go with a system like Canada's?
Simple X in a box, hand counted, done in a few hours, no ambiguities, no problems?
Perhaps because the US has approx. 260 millions residents, whereas Canada has less than 29 million (source: Encyclopedia.com: Canada)? You might be able to get away with that sort of system there. We're just a touch bigger.
BTW, did Nunavut ever get created? And who thinks up that sort of name? It's almost as silly as Dakota or Idaho, yet not as unimaginative as Washington.
Heh heh. I live in Denver, which is in many ways a hellhole and an utterly rotten city, but there is one thing I am very proud of: we had no big party for the '99/'00 rollover, but had a massive blowout for the turn of the millenium. A European fireworks artist, music, parties, the whole bit. It was really cool, and for once we did things right.
If each certificate in the chain was issued by its putative issuer, and if the root of the
chain is trusted, then either the sender's key has been compromised, or the message is both authentic and valid.
Not correct AFAIK--any link in the chain may be compromised, calling into question the validity of any key below it. This is one of the many problems with PKI (in the specific sense that term is often used, not in the general sense), and is why I prefer PGP, which has the same problem (as any public-key structure must), but handles it better.
(Politics) If people will get off their butts and follow what their government is dumping on the country, you would be
able to prevent this from ever coming to life.
Not really. Most people are, essentially, sheep. They want bread and circuses--they really don't care how they get them. Juvenal was write. Just look at the policy debates in the US; they're all about how much bread (needed goods) or circuses (unneeed goods) should be given to the masses, financed (of course) by those who actually produce more than they consume.
As long as Joe Q. Luser can get his movie and watch it, as long as he can write a letter to his mommy, as long as this doesn't cost him overmuch, he's happy. He doesn't care that he has no freedom. It's like proponents of affirmative action or hate crime laws--they don't realise, or force themselves not to recognise, that these things are the exact same as that which they are meant to remedy. They don't care that they have become the enemies of freedom, because it is their plates that are full, just like proponents of segregation and discrimination didn't care one bit about the harm their policies caused others--they were OK, and that's all that mattered to them, and matters to their modern-day equivalents.
Joe Q. Luser will not see what he could have had, a world of information, of technology, of freedom and liberty. He's happy with the limited information he receives from his mass-media outlets, the crippled technology he uses and the security provided by eliminating freedom. The corporations and megacorporations are happy because they can line their pockets. The only people who are unhappy are those who saw what the future could have been, who worked for it, and who saw it snatched from them and replaced with a drab substitue.
There are two great modenr dystopias: Orwell's 1984 and Huxley's Brave New World. Of these, Orwell's is the less accurate and the less frightening. Human nature being what it is, that scenario is extremely unlikely--although perhaps somewhat possible. Far more terrifying is the Brave New World in which all are happy and satisfied, in which strife, conflict and competition are a distant memory, in which there is no reason to change and the inhabitants of which, indeed, think that wanting the old ways is insane. They do not realise that they are living second-rate lives; it is impossible even to explain it to them. They are happy--theur bread and circuses are guaranteed and plentiful.
DVD, CPRM, effectively-eternal copyrights and the like are all second-rate technology which fools the masses into accepting drab existenced. The dawn of the Brave New World is at hand. Even now, those of us who recognise what could be are dismissed as crazy, as wanting to stifle growth, of standing in the way of progress. I see now way to stem the bleak tide of control.
I almost never reboot. 1 January I made a great mistake and rebooted for the first time in nearly six months. Why go to the trouble of installing such a thing and using disk space for it if I don't see it but once a year?
Computers are meant to run around-the-clock. I don't understand this reluctance to have 'em always on.
AC states that he "south will rise again" saying has nothing to do with people from the south doing anything, and
you know that. He further queries Have you no common sense?
That particular phrase means a lot of things, ranging from `we will rise up, cast you off and this time we're not going to play nice' to `we're going to conquer every obstacle you Yankee carpetbaggin bastards have placed in our way and then some, beat you at your own game and reveal you for the hypocritical Puritan-descended horse-rumps you are.' The meaning varies from speaker to speaker and from time to time.
I generally use it more in the latter sense than in the former. Wreaking war upon New England and her allies is not feasible. Taking them on head-to-head, beating them in the economic game and displaying the value of our own culture is.
It is both the most important and most basic human right. Once you grant it, all others follow. Once it has been denied, no others
can stand
Well, not quite. The most fundamental right is to right to bear arms, which allows one to turn words into actions. One can let people say what they wish--if they can do nothing about it, it doesn't matter.
...like all those nuts who think The South Will Rise Again...
But we have. Carter: Southern. Bush I: Southern. Clinton: Southern. Gore: Southern. Bush II: Southern. The Southern economy, after a century of disaster due to the actions of Yankees, finally started to take off some decades ago. We're booming.
What's wrong with elitism? By his nature an elitist belongs to an elite--that is a group which are, by one criterion, superior to others. Programmers are thus an elite. So are jocks, beautiful women, fine Scotches and nice rosebushes. Were I to demand a position on the next Superbowl team (why I would is beyond me--temporary insanity, perh.), or were I to insist that my untouched-up image be on the front cover of a fashion magazine, I would be laughed at. Similarly, when non-programmers whine non-constructively, programmers laugh. And so should everyone else.
I cannot build a bridge--I haven't the education for it. This does not mean that I whine that engineers have yet to build a footbridge or a car-bridge over the nearest chasm--I either pay for it myself, form a syndicate to pay for it, or do without. Sic Freenet--if one cannot contribute, don't complain.
I'm sure that the fellows who work on it would love donations. Who knows, with enough they might even be able to fund full-time development.
Wow, one can really tell what your authoritarian government-of-choice is. Mein Kampf, ridiculous and silly as it is, was something of a best-seller in its time. The man was mad, but people read his drivel anyway.
How about Adam Smith's work? Now there's a work of genius. And he was correct, unlike Marx, Engels, Hitler, Lenin, Keynes, Roosevelt or any of the rest of that lot.
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The problem is that the old package simply has it s default config files, not all the nifty ones you added yourself. Downgrading with RPM can be a bit of a drag at times.
I just compile from source--that way all the problems are my fault:-)
Actually, I understand that with certain RISC systems, particularly PowerPC ones, the compiler will generate better code than a human will, due to its superior ability to juggle all the variables involved in pipelining &c.
Of course there's the old saw that a human with a sufficiently large piece of paper and a pencil can do aught a 'puter can, but it's also understood that this is not always practical, or even really possible given the term of years left to a human.
How in God's name was what I posted flamebait? Off-topic, yes. But flamebait? As if asking other to support a union's ridiculous strike is any less flamebait! But that got an Informative. Sheesh--sometimes I wish I'd never discovered Slashdot.
FWIW, the reason that my ID's so high is that I never bother to register until ACs received the lower rating. I've been using Slashdot since it was entirely cookie-based (or whatever it was back then). Grumble Grumble Grumble.
At least Bush graduated, unlike Gore, who dropped out. Where this meme of Bush's stupidity was started I'll never know. He never pointed to a bust at Monticello, asking who it was, only to be informed it was dear ol' George Washington, as Gore did.
All the more reason to visit it, then. Unions are monopolies on labour--we don't like Microsoft, we didn't like AT&T, and we shouldn't like unions.
I intend to visit the web site over and over and over. Perh. they'll get the idea that they can start chargin for access, fire the striking workers and go completely online. Heh heh.
It would be Very Dangerous Indeed to standardise on a single suite of software. Anything left out would be relegated to the fringe, and its obscuirty would present an obstacle to its adoption by newbies. When I was in college nearly everyone used the godawful HP CDE text editor. Only a few of us used the inifitely superior vi or emacs.
Linux is a Real OS with Real Software necessitating Real Choices by Real Men. Morons need not apply.
This is not to say that I oppose usability imporvements. They are good and needed. I'm an old mac hand--Linux has a long way to go. But dumbing-down distributions is not the way to do it.
The point about poverty is that even in a society in which many lacked money, the vast majority still managed to educate their children. Thus demonstrating that, in a properous society such as ours, it is not inconceivable that we could do as well or better.
Why not allow a portion of society to be as ignorant as it wishes? Why do you attempt to force your version of what is appropriate on them? I do not force you or your children to believe what I believe, even though I find your outlook to be ingorant. Why should you not, then, return the favour (I am certain that you find my outlook equally wrong-headed:-)?
And I do not believe that my intereste should override anyone's. Nor do I wish anyone's to override mine. Live and let live. Quit stealing my labour for your schemes--I promise to do the same. If you want to educate society, go ahead, do it. But don't make me. You may be surprised, though, to find that I will be anyway. You see, I'm quite willing to give. But the key is willing--theft is unacceptable.
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When were whites ever enslaved by blacks or asians?
Ever heard of a bunch known as the Japanese? A bunch who disregarded the Geneva conventions and used US & British soldiers as slaves?
Perh. you've not studied your history--just about everyone has enslaved just about everyone. Christianity spread to England because a Pope of Rome saw some Angles being sold. There was quite a vigourous slave trade among the Arabs. The Vikings enslaved those they conquered.
We just managed to turn scientific and advanced before everyone else, expanded rapidly, and won. It's not that we're any more evil and nasty than any other race--we're all men, and we're all rotten to one another.
We may have subjugated the world, but we also freed it, you know...
No, one always has the right to inform others that you fear they suffer a cranio-rectal inversion. They have the reciprocal right to ingore you, or to counter that their fears for you run along the same lines.
You seem to support all these federal laws such as gun-free school zones and the Violence Against Women Act. Perh. you're not aware that it is not a federal crime to murder, that it's not a federal crime to break and enter, that it's not a federal crime to assault someone? Different problems should be solved on different levels, and the rule should be at the lowest level possible. What's wrong with guns in schools? Many high schools have rifle or pistol teams. In rural areas it used to be common to have one's rifle in one's truck, in order to go plinking after school. Washington, D.C. might be another case entirely.
As for applying the Bill of Rights to the States, I honestly don't think it does make sense, except where it applies by the language used. `Congress shall' does not effect the states, and should not. But every state should guarantee free speech in its own constitution, as should every town. OTOH, when it says that a right `shall not be infringed,' then it's obvious that no-one may infringe upon it.
Utter nonsense--complete rubbish. In the end of the 18th century (that's the 1700s to you) there was no public education, yet somehow all but 3% of the English had had enough schooling ot be able to read on at least a rudimentary level. This is at a point in time noted for its poverty and the great divide between the classes.
Get the gov't out of the schools and we cease to have these problems. If private individuals wish to censor, who cares? Let 'em be stupid. It's when you let the State in that the real problems start.
Years ago when I was in high school I took the SAT most semesters, at least once a year. After awhile I got bored of it, so my junior year spring I brought along a slide rule--this was just after they legalised calculators. I ended up scoring better with the rule than I would the next year with a calculator; it was the best I ever scored on the SAT.
Slide rules are better & faster than calculators for many things, but they take training to use. They're laid out in such a fashion that the common sequence of actions just rattles off--calculators do not have this advantage. Calculators are exact to significantly more places, though.
The great way to eliminate over-consumption is to get rid of subsidies. In a healthy market over-consumption leads to increased prices leads to decreased consumption. those societies which were destroyed by over-consumption generally had no check on the actions of their members, like money, or had an artificially-supported market somewhere. Bad bad bad...
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Perhaps because the US has approx. 260 millions residents, whereas Canada has less than 29 million (source: Encyclopedia.com: Canada)? You might be able to get away with that sort of system there. We're just a touch bigger.
BTW, did Nunavut ever get created? And who thinks up that sort of name? It's almost as silly as Dakota or Idaho, yet not as unimaginative as Washington.
Heh heh. I live in Denver, which is in many ways a hellhole and an utterly rotten city, but there is one thing I am very proud of: we had no big party for the '99/'00 rollover, but had a massive blowout for the turn of the millenium. A European fireworks artist, music, parties, the whole bit. It was really cool, and for once we did things right.
Not correct AFAIK--any link in the chain may be compromised, calling into question the validity of any key below it. This is one of the many problems with PKI (in the specific sense that term is often used, not in the general sense), and is why I prefer PGP, which has the same problem (as any public-key structure must), but handles it better.
In other words, it's not free?
That's actually pretty amusing.
Not really. Most people are, essentially, sheep. They want bread and circuses--they really don't care how they get them. Juvenal was write. Just look at the policy debates in the US; they're all about how much bread (needed goods) or circuses (unneeed goods) should be given to the masses, financed (of course) by those who actually produce more than they consume.
As long as Joe Q. Luser can get his movie and watch it, as long as he can write a letter to his mommy, as long as this doesn't cost him overmuch, he's happy. He doesn't care that he has no freedom. It's like proponents of affirmative action or hate crime laws--they don't realise, or force themselves not to recognise, that these things are the exact same as that which they are meant to remedy. They don't care that they have become the enemies of freedom, because it is their plates that are full, just like proponents of segregation and discrimination didn't care one bit about the harm their policies caused others--they were OK, and that's all that mattered to them, and matters to their modern-day equivalents.
Joe Q. Luser will not see what he could have had, a world of information, of technology, of freedom and liberty. He's happy with the limited information he receives from his mass-media outlets, the crippled technology he uses and the security provided by eliminating freedom. The corporations and megacorporations are happy because they can line their pockets. The only people who are unhappy are those who saw what the future could have been, who worked for it, and who saw it snatched from them and replaced with a drab substitue.
There are two great modenr dystopias: Orwell's 1984 and Huxley's Brave New World. Of these, Orwell's is the less accurate and the less frightening. Human nature being what it is, that scenario is extremely unlikely--although perhaps somewhat possible. Far more terrifying is the Brave New World in which all are happy and satisfied, in which strife, conflict and competition are a distant memory, in which there is no reason to change and the inhabitants of which, indeed, think that wanting the old ways is insane. They do not realise that they are living second-rate lives; it is impossible even to explain it to them. They are happy--theur bread and circuses are guaranteed and plentiful.
DVD, CPRM, effectively-eternal copyrights and the like are all second-rate technology which fools the masses into accepting drab existenced. The dawn of the Brave New World is at hand. Even now, those of us who recognise what could be are dismissed as crazy, as wanting to stifle growth, of standing in the way of progress. I see now way to stem the bleak tide of control.
Computers are meant to run around-the-clock. I don't understand this reluctance to have 'em always on.
That particular phrase means a lot of things, ranging from `we will rise up, cast you off and this time we're not going to play nice' to `we're going to conquer every obstacle you Yankee carpetbaggin bastards have placed in our way and then some, beat you at your own game and reveal you for the hypocritical Puritan-descended horse-rumps you are.' The meaning varies from speaker to speaker and from time to time.
I generally use it more in the latter sense than in the former. Wreaking war upon New England and her allies is not feasible. Taking them on head-to-head, beating them in the economic game and displaying the value of our own culture is.
Well, not quite. The most fundamental right is to right to bear arms, which allows one to turn words into actions. One can let people say what they wish--if they can do nothing about it, it doesn't matter.
But we have. Carter: Southern. Bush I: Southern. Clinton: Southern. Gore: Southern. Bush II: Southern. The Southern economy, after a century of disaster due to the actions of Yankees, finally started to take off some decades ago. We're booming.
Didn't you read further down? He has submitted patches, and the authors wouldn't take them 'cause they don't care. That's ridiculous and silly IMHO.
I cannot build a bridge--I haven't the education for it. This does not mean that I whine that engineers have yet to build a footbridge or a car-bridge over the nearest chasm--I either pay for it myself, form a syndicate to pay for it, or do without. Sic Freenet--if one cannot contribute, don't complain.
I'm sure that the fellows who work on it would love donations. Who knows, with enough they might even be able to fund full-time development.
How about Adam Smith's work? Now there's a work of genius. And he was correct, unlike Marx, Engels, Hitler, Lenin, Keynes, Roosevelt or any of the rest of that lot.
I just compile from source--that way all the problems are my fault:-)
Of course there's the old saw that a human with a sufficiently large piece of paper and a pencil can do aught a 'puter can, but it's also understood that this is not always practical, or even really possible given the term of years left to a human.
FWIW, the reason that my ID's so high is that I never bother to register until ACs received the lower rating. I've been using Slashdot since it was entirely cookie-based (or whatever it was back then). Grumble Grumble Grumble.
But this is hhorribly off-topic...
I intend to visit the web site over and over and over. Perh. they'll get the idea that they can start chargin for access, fire the striking workers and go completely online. Heh heh.
Linux is a Real OS with Real Software necessitating Real Choices by Real Men. Morons need not apply.
This is not to say that I oppose usability imporvements. They are good and needed. I'm an old mac hand--Linux has a long way to go. But dumbing-down distributions is not the way to do it.
Why not allow a portion of society to be as ignorant as it wishes? Why do you attempt to force your version of what is appropriate on them? I do not force you or your children to believe what I believe, even though I find your outlook to be ingorant. Why should you not, then, return the favour (I am certain that you find my outlook equally wrong-headed:-)?
And I do not believe that my intereste should override anyone's. Nor do I wish anyone's to override mine. Live and let live. Quit stealing my labour for your schemes--I promise to do the same. If you want to educate society, go ahead, do it. But don't make me. You may be surprised, though, to find that I will be anyway. You see, I'm quite willing to give. But the key is willing--theft is unacceptable.
Ever heard of a bunch known as the Japanese? A bunch who disregarded the Geneva conventions and used US & British soldiers as slaves?
Perh. you've not studied your history--just about everyone has enslaved just about everyone. Christianity spread to England because a Pope of Rome saw some Angles being sold. There was quite a vigourous slave trade among the Arabs. The Vikings enslaved those they conquered.
We just managed to turn scientific and advanced before everyone else, expanded rapidly, and won. It's not that we're any more evil and nasty than any other race--we're all men, and we're all rotten to one another.
We may have subjugated the world, but we also freed it, you know...
Any other solution is tyrrany.
As for applying the Bill of Rights to the States, I honestly don't think it does make sense, except where it applies by the language used. `Congress shall' does not effect the states, and should not. But every state should guarantee free speech in its own constitution, as should every town. OTOH, when it says that a right `shall not be infringed,' then it's obvious that no-one may infringe upon it.
Get the gov't out of the schools and we cease to have these problems. If private individuals wish to censor, who cares? Let 'em be stupid. It's when you let the State in that the real problems start.
Slide rules are better & faster than calculators for many things, but they take training to use. They're laid out in such a fashion that the common sequence of actions just rattles off--calculators do not have this advantage. Calculators are exact to significantly more places, though.
The great way to eliminate over-consumption is to get rid of subsidies. In a healthy market over-consumption leads to increased prices leads to decreased consumption. those societies which were destroyed by over-consumption generally had no check on the actions of their members, like money, or had an artificially-supported market somewhere. Bad bad bad...