Ok, here goes:
The computers at my school are used for only a few things:
-Internet Browsing
-Word Processing
-Various misc stuff that your not supposed to do anyway (AIM, games, etc)
Because of this, we use mostly iMacs, but in a few classrooms, there are PC labs. One example is my Web Design class, and another is the CAD class. All the PCs are connected to a Novell network, and the iMacs are on an Appletalk network. The really funny thing is that in my APCS class, we write console based C++ programs on iMacs!
Anyway, wouldent it be much better for the public systems (used only for internet access and word processing) to be centrally administered thin clients running like FVWM2 with Netscape and Staroffice?
Im sure it would be much more stable and simple to use than iMacs running Claris Works and Netscape. Also, there do exist web design and CAD programs for linux.
Well, most of the pcs at my school are pentium classic 166 with little 2GiB hard drives. They run OK if they are properly set up, but then, even with all the "security" crap (hiding desktop icons and removing the shortcut keys for run and explore) stupid students install netscape 6.2 and morpheus on them. Do you have any idea how SLOW netscape 6.2 is on a pentium 166?!?!?!
Well, it might be good if its set up properly.
They are using an old version of netware, and it runs horribly. Actually, they have two networks. One is a novell network with win95 boxes on it, the other is an appletalk network with a buch of imacs on it. This is the first year i have actually even had access to a windows box in school. Also, i never said windows was better than novell. Im sure novell is quite good, when it is being set up by a competent administrator, and almost anything is better than the windows fileshareing network.
I have been using only Linux at home for everything but certain games. To bad i still have to use Windoze at school. The administration doesnt know a good OS when they see it. Thats why they run mostly Win95 on a Novell network.
Not too hard. Take a 4 port switch, put it IN the wall, and attatch it to 4 rj-45 jacks in a faceplate with short cables. Its a little bigger, but as long as you can slip it into the wall, it should work. Make it a 5 port switch so you can have an uplink port to the housewide network.
No. Wireless is inherintly insecure. Unless you can use ssh tunnels over the 802.11b and route ALL traffic through them, not accepting traffic through other ways, anyone can either get an IP via DHCP, even if it checks MAC addresses, or try manual configuration until they get a connection. Even if you use the WAP encryption (or whatever the abbreviation is) it is still insecure, and someone in a car nearby with a laptop, a wireless card, and an antenna can use your internet connection. Plus, wireless is more expensive than wired, and i kinda like all the colourful cords running everywhere.:)
NOT secure???
The only thing i have had that is more secure than my linux box is my win98 box because it would undoubtedly crash before anyone could fsck with any of my files! I know linux is not secure out of the box, but it is more secure than most other os's and MUCH more reliable.
Slackware rules!
I first got into Linux recently with Mandrake 7.2
At first, I thought it was easy to use, but then, i realized that it was actually TOO easy to use!!
I wasnt learning anything about linux:(
So, i had my friend help me install slack 7.0 off his CD. (I realize now that i probably could have done it myself.) It is GREAT!!! It is challenging enough that i learn things, but not so hard to use that i give up. Also, it runs reasonably fast on a Pentium 100, unlike the bloated mandrake. NEWBIES: Do NOT get Mandrake!!! Its like riding a bike with permanent training wheels! Just get Slack 8.0! It is still easy to use, and you will actually learn something. Oh, and DONT use a WM that looks like Windoze95.
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Thanks! Putty looks good, although the other reply, TTSSH, is what im using now. It doesnt handle ansi colours and curses apps dont work properly.
on that note, does anyone know a GOOD free ssh client for windows (and for mac also if possible)
The ones i have all get stuff wrong for curses based programs
Sorry about the offtopicness, but i had to ask
Duct tape + standard 802.11b antenna + magnetic mount CB antenna base
hehe, just wait until we get x10 ads popping up on the sides of buildings!
Ok, here goes:
The computers at my school are used for only a few things:
-Internet Browsing
-Word Processing
-Various misc stuff that your not supposed to do anyway (AIM, games, etc)
Because of this, we use mostly iMacs, but in a few classrooms, there are PC labs. One example is my Web Design class, and another is the CAD class. All the PCs are connected to a Novell network, and the iMacs are on an Appletalk network. The really funny thing is that in my APCS class, we write console based C++ programs on iMacs!
Anyway, wouldent it be much better for the public systems (used only for internet access and word processing) to be centrally administered thin clients running like FVWM2 with Netscape and Staroffice?
Im sure it would be much more stable and simple to use than iMacs running Claris Works and Netscape. Also, there do exist web design and CAD programs for linux.
"...novell, when setup right, kicks ass... "
;)
But, its not
Well, most of the pcs at my school are pentium classic 166 with little 2GiB hard drives. They run OK if they are properly set up, but then, even with all the "security" crap (hiding desktop icons and removing the shortcut keys for run and explore) stupid students install netscape 6.2 and morpheus on them. Do you have any idea how SLOW netscape 6.2 is on a pentium 166?!?!?!
"...probably the biggest nerd in your school."
;)
No, but im up there
Well, it might be good if its set up properly.
They are using an old version of netware, and it runs horribly. Actually, they have two networks. One is a novell network with win95 boxes on it, the other is an appletalk network with a buch of imacs on it. This is the first year i have actually even had access to a windows box in school. Also, i never said windows was better than novell. Im sure novell is quite good, when it is being set up by a competent administrator, and almost anything is better than the windows fileshareing network.
I have been using only Linux at home for everything but certain games. To bad i still have to use Windoze at school. The administration doesnt know a good OS when they see it. Thats why they run mostly Win95 on a Novell network.
P.S. First... no i wont say it...
Just get a hotmail account. Let it fill up the Micro$oft servers!
Not too hard. Take a 4 port switch, put it IN the wall, and attatch it to 4 rj-45 jacks in a faceplate with short cables. Its a little bigger, but as long as you can slip it into the wall, it should work. Make it a 5 port switch so you can have an uplink port to the housewide network.
No. Wireless is inherintly insecure. Unless you can use ssh tunnels over the 802.11b and route ALL traffic through them, not accepting traffic through other ways, anyone can either get an IP via DHCP, even if it checks MAC addresses, or try manual configuration until they get a connection. Even if you use the WAP encryption (or whatever the abbreviation is) it is still insecure, and someone in a car nearby with a laptop, a wireless card, and an antenna can use your internet connection. Plus, wireless is more expensive than wired, and i kinda like all the colourful cords running everywhere. :)
NOT secure??? The only thing i have had that is more secure than my linux box is my win98 box because it would undoubtedly crash before anyone could fsck with any of my files! I know linux is not secure out of the box, but it is more secure than most other os's and MUCH more reliable.
Slackware rules! I first got into Linux recently with Mandrake 7.2 At first, I thought it was easy to use, but then, i realized that it was actually TOO easy to use!! I wasnt learning anything about linux :(
So, i had my friend help me install slack 7.0 off his CD. (I realize now that i probably could have done it myself.) It is GREAT!!! It is challenging enough that i learn things, but not so hard to use that i give up. Also, it runs reasonably fast on a Pentium 100, unlike the bloated mandrake. NEWBIES: Do NOT get Mandrake!!! Its like riding a bike with permanent training wheels! Just get Slack 8.0! It is still easy to use, and you will actually learn something. Oh, and DONT use a WM that looks like Windoze95.