"There has grown in the minds of certain groups in this country the idea that just because a man or corporation has made a profit out of the public for a number of years, the government and the courts are charged with guaranteeing such a profit in the future, even in the face of changing circumstances and contrary to public interest. This strange doctrine is supported by neither statute or common law. Neither corporations or individuals have the right to come into court and ask that the clock of history be stopped, or turned back." - Robert A. Heinlein, "Life Line"
Well... actually as a guy that does a lot of Windows installs for a living... (unfortnately)
Windows install 1 - 1.5 hours
Driver updates and install 1 - 2 hours
Windows updates 3 - 8 hours (not kidding)
Office Install 30 minutes
Office updates (who does that?) 2 hours
Securing and configuring all that crap 1 hour
Repeating the securing and configuring for all users on the machine 1 hour per. (Why no "apply this to all users" button for an admin account??)
Anti-virus 20 minutes to 2 hours depending.
So figure, a whole day per computer. That still allows for doing other things if you are not in a hurry and have another PC to do work on your desk.
(Blah blah yea I could use images, but with no hardware standard it's a LOT easier just to not screw with that and let windows discover all the drivers.)
I only use some odd types of Linux, but the ones I do have taken less than a morning to get up and running in a way I needed. (Smoothwall, Knoppix, etc.)
Braking also factors in with that style of driving.
Brakes take energy out of the system. So driving slower, accellerating less (to make a gap) and keeping a gap all mean less braking. Miles per gallon says nothing about how fast one gets to the destination.... just how much energy was used in the process.
So leaving a big gap in front means you consistantly take out less energy than the guy roaring right up to the light and can produce better milage.
Most people have no clue about physics, and end up driving like tards and wondering why they get crappy milage as a result. Brakes get hot... that energy comes from somewhere...
What a freaking perversion of the English language. Where I come from "we will monitor you" does not imply "gather your credit card number" in any sense.
That's like saying "I will visit your mom for a chat" means "I will sniff your mom in the cooch."
It just isn't the same thing.
The stuff is Evil. Face it. (Yea, lot of credability from a guy using the email address "joe.hacker@gmail.com" about what is good and right on internet. Go crawl back under your futon in the basement, kid.)
Dunno about Mac, but on a PC its because I can't do an NSlookup or a dig on any server not on their list. (I get 2 of about 5 in rotation)
Telnet on port 53 dropped totally. (Though they could be detecting what tool it is and still letting DNS traffic through.)
I am on the section of Charter that used to be Bresnan@home a while back. I think the filter could be a legacy of that network.
It really sucks when their DNS is DOWN and I have to use my work server IP to get in, look up each address by hand and then modify my hosts file to browse stuff. Of course, my neighbors are DOWN at that point...
And to elaborate, the DNS servers (in this case, server B) AOL runs on their network to tell their customers where slashdot.org is... go "PPPTTTHTT! I dont care how long you think I should remember where slashdot is! I am gonna use 5 days!"
And they go on to remember the data for five days, telling AOL customers where slashdot.org is... even though maybe 3 days ago the slashdot.org site got moved to a different IP entirely.... so to the AOL'ers slashdot.org is down and doesnt exist... which can be a pain if slashdot.org's board of directors uses AOL and call to biatch about the site being down.
Grandparent is full of shit or doesn't understand what this thread is about.
Serials are primarily for the two servers do get the same data (primary/secondary), so when the secondary is done waiting it goes to look at the serial on the primary and grabs the new zone transfer if the serial is higher.
TTL on an A record is just a recomendation (a specific setting that over-rides the default TTL for the zone up near the SOA).
IF a server has cached an A record with a TTL of 6000 seconds (just under 2 hours) it should hold and server data for only a maximum of 6000 seconds, and after that time dump the data and go get new data from the authoritative name servers.
If you do a DIG against them, they'll tell you how much time is left on a cached record.
Serial doesnt come into the "when to drop cached data" transaction at all.
Sure, not incrementing the serial can cause all sorts of problems. But that's not what the article is on about.
AOL et. al are ignoring specific A record TTL and putting their OWN TTL on cached information that over-rides mine. (I know this because the tool I use makes it so I CANT forget to incriment the serial, and I still run into TTL problems. What about that smartypants?) So when I set a domain from default to 3600 seconds a day before an MX record (email server) change and they ignore it, email migration from one server to another stays messed up for days rather than the hour my TTL would do. A good admin doesnt abuse TTL (like yahoo apparently does...) and sets it back up higher when finished moving stuff, most of the time I am prefectly happy with the nice long standard cache time. But sometimes you NEED a low TTL.
I got the O'Reilly Grasshopper book right here in front of me and none of the TTL sections mentions SOA needing increment for TTL caching. If someone wants to point out a page number that says I am wrong I'd be happy to shut up. But self-righteous indignation better be fact checked... seriously.
Here's my experience with TTLs. (Keep in mind I am a relative newbie when it comes to DNS, I had bind working on Win32 for a couple years for about 300 domains and have since moved to cooperating with a local ISP to use their DNS on RH.)
There are five types of TTL problems;
1) the ISP is a large one (AOL, RR, Earthlink) etc. and they have deliberately ignored TTLs on A records or entire zones. Typically it's up to 4 days more than default but they do cycle eventually. Nothing to do but show a few web tools to those people complaining and tell em it's not my fault.
2) the ISP is a large one that just has crappy DNS servers (Charter Communications, other cable) Resolution as hopeless as above. The crappy part is that Charter in particular FILTERS traffic on port 53 so you CANT use any other DNS servers aside from theirs. Morons, unfilter or fix it.
3) the ISP is a small local with some high-school part timer admining their servers. In this case, the DNS server is usually just screwed up in other ways too. TTL and old cached inforamation is just part of it. Sometimes you can get their customers to biatch at them to reset the service. I have had to explain how and what to do several times to the OWNERs or CTO of these ISPs. (See newbie comment above)
4) there is a DNS server somewhere on a medium sized or small LAN and the LAN admin has no frecking clue it is there. Often this is a domain controller for Active Directory, but sometimes its something else. Often resolution is "well, wait until everbody leaves and reboot all your servers and machines"
5) Individual Windows machines that do not let go of DNS data (I dont think the DNS client service in Windows honors TTLs, I think it uses "window is still open so keep DNS" type rules instead.
Most often, I run into #4 and less so #2, but the number of large ISPs that dishonor TTLs (even reasonable ones) is growing.
The gas cap thing IS true for some cars. I know Subaru has a very common problem code for it causing the light go go on. Apparently they use presurized gas tanks (couple of lbs above outside) as some sort of assist for the fuel pump (or the pump itself).
So leaving the gas cap off on a Subaru means pretty quickly your fuel injector is not getting the fuel the computer is telling it to get... thus the light.
It's pretty simple; 302 redirects allow bad guys to exploit Google.
It doesn't matter that it's the wrong way to use a 302 redirect. They are the BAD GUYS. Remember the "spammers lie" truism?
It's the Google rule that is broken. 302 should be treated as "cant find site" in their search rankings rather than assuming the the data sent by the web server is honest. It sucks that some legit users of 302 won't get ranked as well because of it, but boo hoo. Let anybody that has hardware or software problems get better equipment in the first place if their freaking world ends when they don't get ranked in their keyword group. I have NO SYMPATHY for someone that shoestrings their vital revenue stream infrastructure and then wonders why things go bad. It reminds me of my job too much.
Buy Google ADs if you need to make money off your site traffic.
Google will change the rule or they won't. If they want to stay relevant, they'd better. I find myself getting irritated with Google's crappy search results a lot now days, sooner or later I will find one of the little startup to use and they can kiss off if it keeps up. So I figure they will get to it. They are Google, they are good at what they do.
Now what I think they should do is download snippets of pages via the Google toolbar which then sends the data to Google to make a massively distributed bot-net spider that is indistinquishable from the web-using masses. At that point, as far as exploiting Google via IP of the bot or user agent of the bot IT IS ALL OVER.
Move along, nothing to see here but a bunch of people that don't understand redirect and HTTP protocols.
A blogger is not simply someone keeping a journal.
The critical part is the "b" in "blogger" where the web (and thus publishing online to worldwide mass media).
Despite the amatureish and often inane content of of blogs, they lands soundly in the same category as the trip Bill O'Reily spouts on Fox news. (Come to think of it, I see little difference.)
Writing stuff down or keeping text in a text file is journaling.
Publishing that material to a web site is journalism. Despite what the ruling elite may want people to think, a blogger is a journalist and should be allowed all the protections from heavy handed company lawyers as anybody from CNN.
I think you are grossly underestimating the number of rats there are.
In some urban areas, its a 1:1 ratio rats:humans.
In some rural areas, its 20:1 or higher depending on what agricultural activities are going on.
The rats, the noble beast they are tend to be much more tolearble and plesant to be around than lawyers. Which is good, because there are _lots_ of them.
Whatismyip.com and other similar sites are a great tool for any network admin that deals with lusers from other companies.
I can't count how many times I have said "ok, what's the address of the mail server" and gotten something like "10.0.0.200" or "198.168.1.3". Sure, _I_ know what my machine IP is (most of the others on the network for that matter), and I know what my WAN IP is and the DMZ IPs of my servers. However, my customers dont... likewise even if they do know ipconfig and can do it on their machine, it is a local network IP that doesn't do any good when looking for the WAN IP. For that, you need to know it, get it from the ISP (good fucking luck with that) or have them log into a router... (if they know what a router IS.)
What IP points to the outside world on any given network probably escapes the average "comptuer guy" at small companies.
Rather than getting the clueless to figure out or find out the IP from their ISP, it is a lot easier just to send them to one of those sites and have them read off the number. Most of them are not too numb to read a number out loud, though having them cut and paste it into an email can catch the ones that are dislexic.
I use some of the sites listed at "traceroute.org" rather than the other ones... no confusing flashy ads, just the start IP of the trace.
Like shoot cops, run down pedestrians and rape women.
You forgot bring satan back to the world of the living.
Gimmie a break. You have no freaking clue what is in the game do you? I have played the entire series (with the exception of the most recent version not out on PC yet) and there is NO rape in the game AT ALL.
True, any person can be beaten or shot and their money taken at any time and various other acts of random violence. If you do that too much, the Cops come and arrest you or kill you in the game, just like real life. Likewise, extra health points can be gained by spending time and money sitting in a car with a prostitiute, however there is NO RAPE.
Think of the game as having no redeeming qualities if you want. But don't lie about it's contents.
I for one find it very entertaining. The violent parts are only a portion of the game, other parts include; stunt driving, street races, exploring new spaces, figuring out strategies for earning money, delivering pizzas, selling ice cream, putting out fires, driving injured people to the hospital and eliminating criminals. I probably forgot some stuff... the game is NOT all just random violence... it's missions (the point of the game) and other activities are a large part of it too.
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Destroying evidence is indeed illegal.
However, before you are aware of, or have "reasonable belief" of a lawsuit or criminal investigation logs are not evidence yet and may be deleted freely.
I do exactly that with logs for my company. Once a month I clean out everything we don't need, including "email logs" and other stupid shit MS piles up in various places in the operating system. If/When the lawyers/cops come knocking, I can point to the policy and scheduled reminder and say "sorry, dont have that".
Logs are not the only place stuff resides and piles up, but it's one easy fix and keeps my servers and machines clear of unnecessary disk-space robbing files.
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"There has grown in the minds of certain groups in this country the idea that just because a man or corporation has made a profit out of the public for a number of years, the government and the courts are charged with guaranteeing such a profit in the future, even in the face of changing circumstances and contrary to public interest. This strange doctrine is supported by neither statute or common law. Neither corporations or individuals have the right to come into court and ask that the clock of history be stopped, or turned back." - Robert A. Heinlein, " Life Line "
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Well... actually as a guy that does a lot of Windows installs for a living... (unfortnately)
Windows install 1 - 1.5 hours
Driver updates and install 1 - 2 hours
Windows updates 3 - 8 hours (not kidding)
Office Install 30 minutes
Office updates (who does that?) 2 hours
Securing and configuring all that crap 1 hour
Repeating the securing and configuring for all users on the machine 1 hour per. (Why no "apply this to all users" button for an admin account??)
Anti-virus 20 minutes to 2 hours depending.
So figure, a whole day per computer. That still allows for doing other things if you are not in a hurry and have another PC to do work on your desk.
(Blah blah yea I could use images, but with no hardware standard it's a LOT easier just to not screw with that and let windows discover all the drivers.)
I only use some odd types of Linux, but the ones I do have taken less than a morning to get up and running in a way I needed. (Smoothwall, Knoppix, etc.)
Braking also factors in with that style of driving.
Brakes take energy out of the system. So driving slower, accellerating less (to make a gap) and keeping a gap all mean less braking. Miles per gallon says nothing about how fast one gets to the destination.... just how much energy was used in the process.
So leaving a big gap in front means you consistantly take out less energy than the guy roaring right up to the light and can produce better milage.
Most people have no clue about physics, and end up driving like tards and wondering why they get crappy milage as a result. Brakes get hot... that energy comes from somewhere...
There are _FREE_ (as in beer) PDF converters out there.
For example I use PDF995 which installs as a printer driver to output PDF. It works pretty well in all the cases I have used it so far.
The trade off is an add for the other stuff, and if you shell out $210 you don't have to see the ads, or you can get the "Suite" for $20.
If you can't find a PDF converter that works for you, you haven't looked.
What a freaking perversion of the English language. Where I come from "we will monitor you" does not imply "gather your credit card number" in any sense.
That's like saying "I will visit your mom for a chat" means "I will sniff your mom in the cooch."
It just isn't the same thing.
The stuff is Evil. Face it. (Yea, lot of credability from a guy using the email address "joe.hacker@gmail.com" about what is good and right on internet. Go crawl back under your futon in the basement, kid.)
Marketing data !== Online banking logins and CC numbers.
Marketing data !== Location of mouse clicks
Free email virus scanning, does it REMOVE anything? Somehow I think the stuff probably sucks rotten donkey balls at virus prevention...
Walks like spyware, talks like spyware, smells like spyware... this thing is one step above OpenOrriface as far as it's trojan qualities.
I hate asshats like you that blame the user for something, same logic the spammers use. Jerk.
Dunno about Mac, but on a PC its because I can't do an NSlookup or a dig on any server not on their list. (I get 2 of about 5 in rotation)
Telnet on port 53 dropped totally. (Though they could be detecting what tool it is and still letting DNS traffic through.)
I am on the section of Charter that used to be Bresnan@home a while back. I think the filter could be a legacy of that network.
It really sucks when their DNS is DOWN and I have to use my work server IP to get in, look up each address by hand and then modify my hosts file to browse stuff. Of course, my neighbors are DOWN at that point...
Very concise.
And to elaborate, the DNS servers (in this case, server B) AOL runs on their network to tell their customers where slashdot.org is... go "PPPTTTHTT! I dont care how long you think I should remember where slashdot is! I am gonna use 5 days!"
And they go on to remember the data for five days, telling AOL customers where slashdot.org is... even though maybe 3 days ago the slashdot.org site got moved to a different IP entirely.... so to the AOL'ers slashdot.org is down and doesnt exist... which can be a pain if slashdot.org's board of directors uses AOL and call to biatch about the site being down.
Grandparent is full of shit or doesn't understand what this thread is about.
Serials are primarily for the two servers do get the same data (primary/secondary), so when the secondary is done waiting it goes to look at the serial on the primary and grabs the new zone transfer if the serial is higher.
TTL on an A record is just a recomendation (a specific setting that over-rides the default TTL for the zone up near the SOA).
IF a server has cached an A record with a TTL of 6000 seconds (just under 2 hours) it should hold and server data for only a maximum of 6000 seconds, and after that time dump the data and go get new data from the authoritative name servers.
If you do a DIG against them, they'll tell you how much time is left on a cached record.
Serial doesnt come into the "when to drop cached data" transaction at all.
Sure, not incrementing the serial can cause all sorts of problems. But that's not what the article is on about.
AOL et. al are ignoring specific A record TTL and putting their OWN TTL on cached information that over-rides mine. (I know this because the tool I use makes it so I CANT forget to incriment the serial, and I still run into TTL problems. What about that smartypants?) So when I set a domain from default to 3600 seconds a day before an MX record (email server) change and they ignore it, email migration from one server to another stays messed up for days rather than the hour my TTL would do. A good admin doesnt abuse TTL (like yahoo apparently does...) and sets it back up higher when finished moving stuff, most of the time I am prefectly happy with the nice long standard cache time. But sometimes you NEED a low TTL.
I got the O'Reilly Grasshopper book right here in front of me and none of the TTL sections mentions SOA needing increment for TTL caching. If someone wants to point out a page number that says I am wrong I'd be happy to shut up. But self-righteous indignation better be fact checked... seriously.
Here's my experience with TTLs. (Keep in mind I am a relative newbie when it comes to DNS, I had bind working on Win32 for a couple years for about 300 domains and have since moved to cooperating with a local ISP to use their DNS on RH.)
There are five types of TTL problems;
1) the ISP is a large one (AOL, RR, Earthlink) etc. and they have deliberately ignored TTLs on A records or entire zones. Typically it's up to 4 days more than default but they do cycle eventually. Nothing to do but show a few web tools to those people complaining and tell em it's not my fault.
2) the ISP is a large one that just has crappy DNS servers (Charter Communications, other cable) Resolution as hopeless as above. The crappy part is that Charter in particular FILTERS traffic on port 53 so you CANT use any other DNS servers aside from theirs. Morons, unfilter or fix it.
3) the ISP is a small local with some high-school part timer admining their servers. In this case, the DNS server is usually just screwed up in other ways too. TTL and old cached inforamation is just part of it. Sometimes you can get their customers to biatch at them to reset the service. I have had to explain how and what to do several times to the OWNERs or CTO of these ISPs. (See newbie comment above)
4) there is a DNS server somewhere on a medium sized or small LAN and the LAN admin has no frecking clue it is there. Often this is a domain controller for Active Directory, but sometimes its something else. Often resolution is "well, wait until everbody leaves and reboot all your servers and machines"
5) Individual Windows machines that do not let go of DNS data (I dont think the DNS client service in Windows honors TTLs, I think it uses "window is still open so keep DNS" type rules instead.
Most often, I run into #4 and less so #2, but the number of large ISPs that dishonor TTLs (even reasonable ones) is growing.
The gas cap thing IS true for some cars. I know Subaru has a very common problem code for it causing the light go go on. Apparently they use presurized gas tanks (couple of lbs above outside) as some sort of assist for the fuel pump (or the pump itself).
So leaving the gas cap off on a Subaru means pretty quickly your fuel injector is not getting the fuel the computer is telling it to get... thus the light.
The fix is, always replace your cap tightly.
A key part of the rebate thing is the large "after rebate" price advertised on the labels in the store and on the advertisement circulars.
So when combined with the probability of actually getting a rebate check, it comes out to false advertising.
Was that from "Software" by Rudy Rucker?
There's a similar scene in it when the kid/adult main character gets into the big boss's stuff.
A decent read if you can get over the "started the cyberpunk phenomena!" crap on the cover.
Yeah right. Douglas Adams did that.
Yeah that's hot alright. Nothing like making my corn-dog hatred diminish a little....
Corn Dog Pic
Well... the whole point is energy per unit area on the object.
This is focused light via reflection, not refraction as would come from a magnifying glass or lense.
This contraption probably wouldn't gain much by using a lense. Extra square footage of mirrors would increase it's delicious fry-it power though....
Why all the yammering and discussion on this?
It's pretty simple; 302 redirects allow bad guys to exploit Google.
It doesn't matter that it's the wrong way to use a 302 redirect. They are the BAD GUYS. Remember the "spammers lie" truism?
It's the Google rule that is broken. 302 should be treated as "cant find site" in their search rankings rather than assuming the the data sent by the web server is honest. It sucks that some legit users of 302 won't get ranked as well because of it, but boo hoo. Let anybody that has hardware or software problems get better equipment in the first place if their freaking world ends when they don't get ranked in their keyword group. I have NO SYMPATHY for someone that shoestrings their vital revenue stream infrastructure and then wonders why things go bad. It reminds me of my job too much.
Buy Google ADs if you need to make money off your site traffic.
Google will change the rule or they won't. If they want to stay relevant, they'd better. I find myself getting irritated with Google's crappy search results a lot now days, sooner or later I will find one of the little startup to use and they can kiss off if it keeps up. So I figure they will get to it. They are Google, they are good at what they do.
Now what I think they should do is download snippets of pages via the Google toolbar which then sends the data to Google to make a massively distributed bot-net spider that is indistinquishable from the web-using masses. At that point, as far as exploiting Google via IP of the bot or user agent of the bot IT IS ALL OVER.
Move along, nothing to see here but a bunch of people that don't understand redirect and HTTP protocols.
A blogger is not simply someone keeping a journal.
The critical part is the "b" in "blogger" where the web (and thus publishing online to worldwide mass media).
Despite the amatureish and often inane content of of blogs, they lands soundly in the same category as the trip Bill O'Reily spouts on Fox news. (Come to think of it, I see little difference.)
Writing stuff down or keeping text in a text file is journaling.
Publishing that material to a web site is journalism. Despite what the ruling elite may want people to think, a blogger is a journalist and should be allowed all the protections from heavy handed company lawyers as anybody from CNN.
Just a randomly picked response to this thread.
Here ya go:
www.timecube.com
There's gotta be a second or fourth corollary to Goodwin's Law here somewhere... mentioning the time cube guy....
I think you are grossly underestimating the number of rats there are.
In some urban areas, its a 1:1 ratio rats:humans.
In some rural areas, its 20:1 or higher depending on what agricultural activities are going on.
The rats, the noble beast they are tend to be much more tolearble and plesant to be around than lawyers. Which is good, because there are _lots_ of them.
Hey, Tardmo. You the stupid inexperinced one.
Whatismyip.com and other similar sites are a great tool for any network admin that deals with lusers from other companies.
I can't count how many times I have said "ok, what's the address of the mail server" and gotten something like "10.0.0.200" or "198.168.1.3". Sure, _I_ know what my machine IP is (most of the others on the network for that matter), and I know what my WAN IP is and the DMZ IPs of my servers. However, my customers dont... likewise even if they do know ipconfig and can do it on their machine, it is a local network IP that doesn't do any good when looking for the WAN IP. For that, you need to know it, get it from the ISP (good fucking luck with that) or have them log into a router... (if they know what a router IS.)
What IP points to the outside world on any given network probably escapes the average "comptuer guy" at small companies.
Rather than getting the clueless to figure out or find out the IP from their ISP, it is a lot easier just to send them to one of those sites and have them read off the number. Most of them are not too numb to read a number out loud, though having them cut and paste it into an email can catch the ones that are dislexic.
I use some of the sites listed at "traceroute.org" rather than the other ones... no confusing flashy ads, just the start IP of the trace.
Like shoot cops, run down pedestrians and rape women.
You forgot bring satan back to the world of the living. Gimmie a break. You have no freaking clue what is in the game do you? I have played the entire series (with the exception of the most recent version not out on PC yet) and there is NO rape in the game AT ALL.
True, any person can be beaten or shot and their money taken at any time and various other acts of random violence. If you do that too much, the Cops come and arrest you or kill you in the game, just like real life. Likewise, extra health points can be gained by spending time and money sitting in a car with a prostitiute, however there is NO RAPE.
Think of the game as having no redeeming qualities if you want. But don't lie about it's contents.
I for one find it very entertaining. The violent parts are only a portion of the game, other parts include; stunt driving, street races, exploring new spaces, figuring out strategies for earning money, delivering pizzas, selling ice cream, putting out fires, driving injured people to the hospital and eliminating criminals. I probably forgot some stuff... the game is NOT all just random violence... it's missions (the point of the game) and other activities are a large part of it too.
.... and where the backdoor has not been exposed to a malicious worm.
You forgot, "Mr. Anderson".
Destroying evidence is indeed illegal. However, before you are aware of, or have "reasonable belief" of a lawsuit or criminal investigation logs are not evidence yet and may be deleted freely.
I do exactly that with logs for my company. Once a month I clean out everything we don't need, including "email logs" and other stupid shit MS piles up in various places in the operating system. If/When the lawyers/cops come knocking, I can point to the policy and scheduled reminder and say "sorry, dont have that".
Logs are not the only place stuff resides and piles up, but it's one easy fix and keeps my servers and machines clear of unnecessary disk-space robbing files.
... how many civilians need to be burned to produce a gigawatt?
Think of the cemetery space that could be saved!