Says who? IBM has publicly stated they think it is "Enterprise Ready". Where I work there isn't a single instance where we use NT that it couldn't be replaced with Linux. I don't think I'd replace our OpenVMS or Tru64 servers with it just yet but it isn't that far off, and we have some serious load and uptime requirements on the Alpha servers.
You use different servers for different apps and multiple servers for each major app if you have enough users to justify it. Then if the server goes down they work on stuff in another app or use a different server until it is fixed. We store all of our data files on a network server for backup purposes and if it goes down everyone is screwed anyway. But with spare parts on hand we can be up and running again in a surprisingly short time.
I can't believe the number of people who believe this crap. A word processor is a word processor and a spreadsheet is a spreadsheet. Any body too dumb to figure out the basics of a new office type app in about 15 minutes is too dumb to be paying a paycheck to in the first place. The more complicated stuff takes a little more time but it still isn't rocket science. As for the OS on this kind of system all a user needs to know is how to open a program, close it, and save documents. All of the major work happens at the server and that requires competent admins but there again if they aren't flexible enough to figure out a new system do really need them in the first place.
My heart just bleads for users that might have to learn a new program. Yeah right. If they aren't flexible and smart enough to learn new programs to do the same work then how are they flexible or smart enought to do the job well in the first place.
Who moderated this as insightful? The guy didn't even read the article. There is nowhere in the article where the author says that this is an acceptable solution for every user just the majority. If you have to have certain software then you run it on the systems that it can run on but for the vast majority of users X-terminals are a more than acceptable solution.
The accountant works for the customer not the other way around. If he won't work with the program you want to use get another accountant. I have not seen vey many documents I couldn't open in Staroffice but you could keep a system around for such emergencies. Business websites should be browser neutral but if not I haven't run across many that eliminated my ability to access the data I need. It may not look right but it is usually there.
If you are doing X-terminals you don't spend an hour configuring a new box. You can have a user on a new machine in minutes. That save money in support and user downtime. There are less opportunities for users to screw up their machines because there is no userspace software running on their machine. Everything is on the server where it can be centrally managed. What you are not realizing is that done right there is a substantial reduction in your support costs too. If it makes you nervous to use really cheap systems buy the minimal system you can feel comfortable with. You'll find that under this system you can probably triple the usable lifespan of that system.
No, what the user sees is that they are down 10 minutes instead of an hour or two. The best way to handle low cost X-terminals is to never fix one at the users desk. Always take out a new one and bring the broken one back for repair or disposal. Users are happy, they are up and running again very quickly with a "new" machine. Management is happy, lower costs and less user downtime. Support is happy, less time dealing with the users and minimum amount of time spent configuring desktops.
No, in this setup you don't try to fix it at the users desk. You take out a new machine plug it in and troubleshoot the one with the problem later. Minimum user downtime.
I can't think of anything that compares to using X-terminals for reliability and risk management. For what you save in hardware you can afford to put those 21 inch terminals on everybodies desk. If you have a hardware problem you just plug in a spare and take the problematic one back with you to troubleshoot when you have time. You can afford to keep a lot more spares around under this method. I don't agree with using cheap servers but for the box at somebodies desk anything you buy today is way overpowered. Using X-terminals allows you to upgrade easily and painlessly, lock everybodies desktop down, and minimize support headaches. It is a winning situation for the company in everyway.
Do you understand what an X-terminal does? All it does is display the work being performed on the server. As long as it can perform the display duties processor speed does not matter. 16 megs is alittle on the low side but the processor isn't the problem. If it was too slow in the implementation you used somebody set it up wrong.
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Hey Klerck. Where do you live? Is that your picture on your webpage?
I prefer this solution. Split them into three corps. One gets the sourcecode and rights to all OS's and productivity apps up to W2K versions. Another gets the rights to all XP stuff. The third gets the rights to everything else except Passport, Hailstorm, and.net. Those last three items can be implemented by all three corps and by anyone else who desires to because they are put in the public domain with all interfaces and API's publicly available, and with an Industry committee appointed to maintain them as a standard with no proprietary extensions allowed by anybody. I have no urge to upgrade to XP and this would allow others who feel the same a way of not doing so. It also allows the corp that gets the older stuff to advance them in ways that would possibly be more palatible to myself and others.
The Chief Executive of the United States is responsible for making sure that federal law is enforced. Committing perjury is hardly enforcing federal law. What he did was even worse than a lawyer lying. But that is offtopic. In my opinion they should bring perjury charges against the executives from Microsoft that committed perjury. At some point individuals at a corporation need to be held accountable for their actions. Otherwise there is no incentive or ability to make any corp act in a law abiding and civilized manner.
It may be medium sized in your book but according to Fortune magazine it is the 79th largest corporation in the US. It was the #6 most profitable, only in number of employees did it show significantly smaller thaan the rest of the top 100. If it is in the top 100 in the US then it is almost certainly in the top 200 world wide. That makes it a very big corporation by any standard. Their profit percentage is astronomical for a large business and would not be so high if they had any serious competition.
The Anonymous Coward I was replying to. Comment # 2205418 score 0. I wasn't commenting on your statement but the idiot who thought @Home technical support is Enterprise class support.
If you think @Home is an enterprise class service you haven't had much exposure to high end systems. Calling @Home enterprise class is like saying Emachines make an enterprise class server.
Mandrake has not been based on Redhat for a while now. They try to maintain compatability but are not fanatical about it. If Redhat does too far from where they want to be Mandrake will sacrifice compatabilty. A lot of Redhat RPMs will work with Mandrake but there are probably as many or more that don't.
If you open a page in Frontpage and suddenly find yourself in the actual page not a cached copy, then you didn't open the door they opened it for you and pushed you inside. The guy had no intention of entering their site.
What did he do that was wrong? He opened the page in Frontpage which should have edited a cached copy not the one on the site. The only reason it opened the one on their site is because they did not protect it at all. He found out by accident and as a good neighbor he let them know. He did not do anything that was morally wrong and in any sane society would not be legally wrong. Your analogy is flawed this is more akin to taking a picture of someones house and finding yourself instantly transported into that house because the owner left open a transdimensional gate. Whose fault is it?
Almost all AIDS research being done around the world is being done by government research grants not by private investment. But if the guy who develops it works for a corp then that corp will probably get the patent and if he works for a university then the university will get the patent and license it to the corp that the researcher started five minutes after he developed it. Government funded research should either not be patentable or be be required to be freely licensed at very low licensing rates. No corporation has the right to make large profits off of my tax dollars. I have no objection to them making a profit as long as competition is allowed and as long as the profit is at reasonable levels.
And I suggest you look at the average net profit of drug companies. There is a lot of room for prices to come down and still make a respectable profit. Any potentially life saving treatment brought about with any government funding should not be patentable. The drug companies do not have a right to make a profit from my or anyone elses tax dollars. There needs to be a law barring state or federal institutions from licensing patents in a prohibitive way.
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Says who? IBM has publicly stated they think it is "Enterprise Ready". Where I work there isn't a single instance where we use NT that it couldn't be replaced with Linux. I don't think I'd replace our OpenVMS or Tru64 servers with it just yet but it isn't that far off, and we have some serious load and uptime requirements on the Alpha servers.
You gave somebody just enough information to get them killed. This is a vey temperature sensitive operation. Just a little too warm and it goes boom.
You use different servers for different apps and multiple servers for each major app if you have enough users to justify it. Then if the server goes down they work on stuff in another app or use a different server until it is fixed. We store all of our data files on a network server for backup purposes and if it goes down everyone is screwed anyway. But with spare parts on hand we can be up and running again in a surprisingly short time.
I can't believe the number of people who believe this crap. A word processor is a word processor and a spreadsheet is a spreadsheet. Any body too dumb to figure out the basics of a new office type app in about 15 minutes is too dumb to be paying a paycheck to in the first place. The more complicated stuff takes a little more time but it still isn't rocket science. As for the OS on this kind of system all a user needs to know is how to open a program, close it, and save documents. All of the major work happens at the server and that requires competent admins but there again if they aren't flexible enough to figure out a new system do really need them in the first place.
X-terminals not X based system. All an X-terminal does is display the work done on another system. It can run quire acceptably.
My heart just bleads for users that might have to learn a new program. Yeah right. If they aren't flexible and smart enough to learn new programs to do the same work then how are they flexible or smart enought to do the job well in the first place.
Who moderated this as insightful? The guy didn't even read the article. There is nowhere in the article where the author says that this is an acceptable solution for every user just the majority. If you have to have certain software then you run it on the systems that it can run on but for the vast majority of users X-terminals are a more than acceptable solution.
The accountant works for the customer not the other way around. If he won't work with the program you want to use get another accountant. I have not seen vey many documents I couldn't open in Staroffice but you could keep a system around for such emergencies. Business websites should be browser neutral but if not I haven't run across many that eliminated my ability to access the data I need. It may not look right but it is usually there.
If you are doing X-terminals you don't spend an hour configuring a new box. You can have a user on a new machine in minutes. That save money in support and user downtime. There are less opportunities for users to screw up their machines because there is no userspace software running on their machine. Everything is on the server where it can be centrally managed. What you are not realizing is that done right there is a substantial reduction in your support costs too. If it makes you nervous to use really cheap systems buy the minimal system you can feel comfortable with. You'll find that under this system you can probably triple the usable lifespan of that system.
No, what the user sees is that they are down 10 minutes instead of an hour or two. The best way to handle low cost X-terminals is to never fix one at the users desk. Always take out a new one and bring the broken one back for repair or disposal. Users are happy, they are up and running again very quickly with a "new" machine. Management is happy, lower costs and less user downtime. Support is happy, less time dealing with the users and minimum amount of time spent configuring desktops.
No, in this setup you don't try to fix it at the users desk. You take out a new machine plug it in and troubleshoot the one with the problem later. Minimum user downtime.
I can't think of anything that compares to using X-terminals for reliability and risk management. For what you save in hardware you can afford to put those 21 inch terminals on everybodies desk. If you have a hardware problem you just plug in a spare and take the problematic one back with you to troubleshoot when you have time. You can afford to keep a lot more spares around under this method. I don't agree with using cheap servers but for the box at somebodies desk anything you buy today is way overpowered. Using X-terminals allows you to upgrade easily and painlessly, lock everybodies desktop down, and minimize support headaches. It is a winning situation for the company in everyway.
Do you understand what an X-terminal does? All it does is display the work being performed on the server. As long as it can perform the display duties processor speed does not matter. 16 megs is alittle on the low side but the processor isn't the problem. If it was too slow in the implementation you used somebody set it up wrong.
Hey Klerck. Where do you live? Is that your picture on your webpage?
I prefer this solution. Split them into three corps. One gets the sourcecode and rights to all OS's and productivity apps up to W2K versions. Another gets the rights to all XP stuff. The third gets the rights to everything else except Passport, Hailstorm, and .net. Those last three items can be implemented by all three corps and by anyone else who desires to because they are put in the public domain with all interfaces and API's publicly available, and with an Industry committee appointed to maintain them as a standard with no proprietary extensions allowed by anybody. I have no urge to upgrade to XP and this would allow others who feel the same a way of not doing so. It also allows the corp that gets the older stuff to advance them in ways that would possibly be more palatible to myself and others.
The Chief Executive of the United States is responsible for making sure that federal law is enforced. Committing perjury is hardly enforcing federal law. What he did was even worse than a lawyer lying. But that is offtopic. In my opinion they should bring perjury charges against the executives from Microsoft that committed perjury. At some point individuals at a corporation need to be held accountable for their actions. Otherwise there is no incentive or ability to make any corp act in a law abiding and civilized manner.
It may be medium sized in your book but according to Fortune magazine it is the 79th largest corporation in the US. It was the #6 most profitable, only in number of employees did it show significantly smaller thaan the rest of the top 100. If it is in the top 100 in the US then it is almost certainly in the top 200 world wide. That makes it a very big corporation by any standard. Their profit percentage is astronomical for a large business and would not be so high if they had any serious competition.
The Anonymous Coward I was replying to. Comment # 2205418 score 0. I wasn't commenting on your statement but the idiot who thought @Home technical support is Enterprise class support.
Care to try John Edwards the psychic?
If you think @Home is an enterprise class service you haven't had much exposure to high end systems. Calling @Home enterprise class is like saying Emachines make an enterprise class server.
Mandrake has not been based on Redhat for a while now. They try to maintain compatability but are not fanatical about it. If Redhat does too far from where they want to be Mandrake will sacrifice compatabilty. A lot of Redhat RPMs will work with Mandrake but there are probably as many or more that don't.
If you open a page in Frontpage and suddenly find yourself in the actual page not a cached copy, then you didn't open the door they opened it for you and pushed you inside. The guy had no intention of entering their site.
What did he do that was wrong? He opened the page in Frontpage which should have edited a cached copy not the one on the site. The only reason it opened the one on their site is because they did not protect it at all. He found out by accident and as a good neighbor he let them know. He did not do anything that was morally wrong and in any sane society would not be legally wrong. Your analogy is flawed this is more akin to taking a picture of someones house and finding yourself instantly transported into that house because the owner left open a transdimensional gate. Whose fault is it?
Almost all AIDS research being done around the world is being done by government research grants not by private investment. But if the guy who develops it works for a corp then that corp will probably get the patent and if he works for a university then the university will get the patent and license it to the corp that the researcher started five minutes after he developed it. Government funded research should either not be patentable or be be required to be freely licensed at very low licensing rates. No corporation has the right to make large profits off of my tax dollars. I have no objection to them making a profit as long as competition is allowed and as long as the profit is at reasonable levels.
And I suggest you look at the average net profit of drug companies. There is a lot of room for prices to come down and still make a respectable profit. Any potentially life saving treatment brought about with any government funding should not be patentable. The drug companies do not have a right to make a profit from my or anyone elses tax dollars. There needs to be a law barring state or federal institutions from licensing patents in a prohibitive way.