Hallelujah brother. Y'all "dorm monkeys":-), this is a guy with experience and knowledge. Shut up and listen to him.
P.S.
What company do you work for? I wanna work for you:-)
That's a great point.. Also, for those who learned it all from home, big props to ya, but in alot of cases, there's a big difference between work experience and troubleshooting a working class system, verses setting a server up at home with one or two client boxes.
If the recruiters knew that these people were too dumb to pass the test and told them this, they'd scream discrimination. They took a chance, couldn't do it, life goes on.
No wonder Bill Gates rules the world. If this bunch of jealous unhappy sad people who call themselves Linux gurus are his competition, Microsoft/Windows will be no. 1 forever
Everything is fine as long as nobody is making any money off of the Open Source. As soon as somebody says, WOW! I made 80 000 this year selling packages and support including open source software, all these "linux gurus" jump and using Nazi-like Goebels tactics, try to discredit them.
These so called gurus always have to say something like: I'have been using Linux since 1964. actually, my mom was reading me C code while she was pregnant with me. No, no, I invented Linux before Linus who stole it from me. I sit in a dark room all day long and write my code. I don't have a job but I am helping humanity. Why do I code? For the code itself. My children don't have to eat. The fact that their father knows how to hack should be enough for them.
OH get a life losers. Or better, get a girlfriend, you know a 3D-one. That's what America is all about - Making money. Commies, go to China and work for free.
Look buddy, Just because you couldn't handle reading the IPChains Howto, why is it that someone else couldn't do it? Did it take you six months to kill telnet and replace with SSH?
If anyone has completed the Sair Certification and been turned down by Linuxgruven for employment, please reply to this. My guess is that no one will be able to reply, because the only people complaining about the company are people who could not handle completing the certification tests.
I would also like to reiterate that most of the people that take Linuxgruven up on their offer for training, are people with LITTLE or NO prior Linux skillsets. If you were an employer for a Linux company, would you train jo-schmo off the streets?...
Without getting into discussion about potential legal issues or Linuxgruven's business practices, here is my experience. I had no Linux experience, took their course, passed 4 SAIR's exams and got hired. I have been with the company for over 6 months. Besides getting paid double what I was making before, I benefited in many other ways: I learned to program in Perl and PHP, learned how to set up and administer anything that works with Linux. Even if I lost my job tomorrow, I could easily find equally good one with the knowledge I posess now. There is nobody who got certified either by SAIR or Linuxgruven and didn't get a job with Linuxgruven. Nobody has to take their course. If you can do it on your own, great. People who are complaining are those who never tried or who are too dumb to get certified. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask. I heard a lot of people saying that a company will pay for your training. Yes, it's true but only if you already have experience or some kind of knowledge.
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Hallelujah brother. Y'all "dorm monkeys":-), this is a guy with experience and knowledge. Shut up and listen to him. P.S. What company do you work for? I wanna work for you :-)
That's a great point.. Also, for those who learned it all from home, big props to ya, but in alot of cases, there's a big difference between work experience and troubleshooting a working class system, verses setting a server up at home with one or two client boxes.
Even my grandma has an A+ certifications and it took her only 3 years.
If the recruiters knew that these people were too dumb to pass the test and told them this, they'd scream discrimination. They took a chance, couldn't do it, life goes on.
No wonder Bill Gates rules the world. If this bunch of jealous unhappy sad people who call themselves Linux gurus are his competition, Microsoft/Windows will be no. 1 forever
Everything is fine as long as nobody is making any money off of the Open Source. As soon as somebody says, WOW! I made 80 000 this year selling packages and support including open source software, all these "linux gurus" jump and using Nazi-like Goebels tactics, try to discredit them.
These so called gurus always have to say something like: I'have been using Linux since 1964. actually, my mom was reading me C code while she was pregnant with me. No, no, I invented Linux before Linus who stole it from me. I sit in a dark room all day long and write my code. I don't have a job but I am helping humanity. Why do I code? For the code itself. My children don't have to eat. The fact that their father knows how to hack should be enough for them.
OH get a life losers. Or better, get a girlfriend, you know a 3D-one. That's what America is all about - Making money. Commies, go to China and work for free.
If you think that we won't defend ourselves, then you're even dumber than you sound.
What's the matter? Can't you handle the truth when it hits you in the face?
Look buddy, Just because you couldn't handle reading the IPChains Howto, why is it that someone else couldn't do it? Did it take you six months to kill telnet and replace with SSH?
They still have time to pass exams. And nobody ever said that everybody would pass. If everybody could pass, the certification would be meaningless.
It has not been said that they were dense, only that they did not posess previous experience in Linux.
We did not have user accounts prior to this. Don't you think there are people with better things to do than to bitch on slashdot.org
Everybody deserves a chance. Don't you think so?
I would like to issue a challenge...
If anyone has completed the Sair Certification and been turned down by Linuxgruven for employment, please reply to this. My guess is that no one will be able to reply, because the only people complaining about the company are people who could not handle completing the certification tests.
I would also like to reiterate that most of the people that take Linuxgruven up on their offer for training, are people with LITTLE or NO prior Linux skillsets. If you were an employer for a Linux company, would you train jo-schmo off the streets?...
Without getting into discussion about potential legal issues or Linuxgruven's business practices, here is my experience. I had no Linux experience, took their course, passed 4 SAIR's exams and got hired. I have been with the company for over 6 months. Besides getting paid double what I was making before, I benefited in many other ways: I learned to program in Perl and PHP, learned how to set up and administer anything that works with Linux. Even if I lost my job tomorrow, I could easily find equally good one with the knowledge I posess now. There is nobody who got certified either by SAIR or Linuxgruven and didn't get a job with Linuxgruven. Nobody has to take their course. If you can do it on your own, great. People who are complaining are those who never tried or who are too dumb to get certified. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask. I heard a lot of people saying that a company will pay for your training. Yes, it's true but only if you already have experience or some kind of knowledge.