In other words, I simply don't buy the logic: "He has a right to own his work. Therefore the state has an obligation to create a legal framework in which the actions of others are restricted so as to create something he can sell."
I do.
I'm not intrinsically opposed to patents but the debate never seems to focus on the actual justification for them; to wit, to promote science and the arts. We focus on whether failing to grant patents would lead to "theft" of a thing that can't be owned at all except through the patent.
People fall into two groups on this subject. One group says that patents give people incentive to work and produce things for they can own and sell them (I am in this group). The other group feels that people will expand on others ideas and that things will be created for the good of the people. They feel that if ideas can be built on quickly, better products will result.
Call me a cynic, but I think that most people would not produce under a system like this. You would have very few producers and many people who just take what is there and return nothing.
I don't think he ever said he had a right to money for his hard work. He is pointing out that he has a right to own his work and sell it if he can. There are people who make money surfing. They are good enough that people will associate products with them and they help to sell things. They create value with their abilities. Surfing however, cannot be duplicated with copy *.* like his type of work can.
Speaking as a student, I went through most of my programming projects with no problems. I understood how the code should work and wrote it accordingly. However, that did nothing to help me debug programs and see what problems common mistakes could give you when a program is run. I learned just as much helping people fix their problems as they did by having me show them how to do something. I saw everything from people not understanding pointers to people just throwing all the code that a teacher went over in class into a program and hoping it compiled and worked "magically". I really learned how to use debuggers with other peoples messes, which in turn helped me when I got to the real world and had to write "complex" programs instead of "read add and write" type of learning programs.
Either The Discovery Channel or The Learning Channel has shown a special on this a few times. It is very interesting. He stayed awake in a city in a glass box. People eventually had to keep waking him up forcefully because he would fall asleep with his eyes open. The physical change in him was incredible from start to finish and he was really wacked out at the end. After the telethon, his marraige broke up and I believe he lost his job. Sleep deprevation can be very serious. IIRC one of the things they said was that this was caused by a complete lack of sleep. Even an hour or two here and there greatly reduce the chance of serious damage.
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If you take your company and put a mission critical piece of software in the hands of someone else you had better have a contingency plan in place for a backup in case it doesn't work. Outsourcing is good and definitely has it's place, but competent decisions should also be made about whether it is right for the situation and then if it is what to do if it fails.
Right, which is exactly how it should be. AIMster users can share whatever they want ONLY TO A LIMITED FEW. If they post on a newsgroup "hey, got some mp3's up, come check me out" there is suspicion, warrant and action. With Napster, the client advertises what you have. You can do a search, find it and have suspicion. I think that Napster is in the wrong and AIMster is legit. They should win this case.
Getting rid of old paper reports is much better for the environment than trying to figure out how to dispose of monitors down the road when they go bad. If each office has a computer in easy viewing distance, each manager/executive has a laptop that has a real time life of 3 or 4 years before it is obsolete, that is a big bunch of plastic and other materials to dispose of. Monitors contain lead, cathode ray tubes and other materials that are harmful to the environment. I don't condone waste either way, but to say that all paper should be done away with and computers used is just as irresponsible as wasting it.
I think while everyone keeps making analogies between computers and cars, or toasters, or even sofas, don't forget where a computer is in it's evolution. Mass usage of computers is in it's infancy and with innovation that is continually taking place, tech support will continue to be a problem. Constant innovation and trying new things means constantly having new bugs and new problems. Using the car analogy, anyone can step into a car (in the US at least, but standardization is similar in other countries) and the gas is on the right, brakes on left, key goes into the right side of the steering wheel. Turn the key and step on the gas. You can even go from driving an old Ford Festiva to driving a Ford Dually and everything operates roughly the same. Computers are nowhere near that. The computer a business person uses is nothing like the computer a college student uses. Every computer has different problems and solutions. If every Dell computer were exactly the same with exactly the same software, support calls would be much less and much easier to deal with. But not all computers are Dell's and we definitely would not want the same software as everyone else. Until computers reach a point of standardization we will continue to struggle with this challenge. The difficult part of this problem is that this type of standardization is not even on the horizon yet. Another thing with the car analogy. If you make a modification to your car, you had better know what you are doing or have your own mechanic, because the dealer will CHARGE you to fix your mistakes. Anyone can do anything to their computers and expect Dell to service it for nothing as a cost of selling you the computer. I can't think of another product that does not void the warranty when you make modifications to it. The fact that computer companies are even providing support in these cases is commendable. I think that eventually we will have "toaster" pc's for consumers that do everything that a consumer wants in one non-configurable box. The problem is that we a. can't cram everything that a consumer would want to do into a box easily and b. we don't know what they want to do tomorrow.
One thing to think about with this point of view is that in earlier times, if people wanted to listen to music they HAD to go see it live. Now we can listen to it anywhere and anytime through everything. Not arguing your point, it is very good, just trying to add to it.
I've got a Dell Latitude p166, 128mb ram, 2 gig drive with one usb port that I picked up from a place that does corporate buyouts for 400 bucks. Not a great machine, but for 400 dollars it works really well for what I need it to do.
We use some of these at work as terminals. Nice and compact. I doubt that any of the models available would work for a serious gaming machine, but they may be a good to contact for a case and parts. They use a floppy that is shorter than normal size to help keep the case so small.
Liberty Computers
First to market? In what? IE is a rippoff of Netscape and Mosaic. Windows is a ripoff of the MAC interface. Windows 95 is a ripoff of OS/2. DOS was bought from someone else. Microsoft has been first to market with very few products. Marketing and ease of use give them the market share they have. Don't get me wrong, I like MS products and use them everyday, but they hardly are "innovators". They are damn good at polishing a product for the general public.
The vulnerability could not be exploited if File Downloads have been disabled in the Security Zone in which the e-mail is rendered. This is not a default setting in any zone, however. - Microsoft's Security Bulletin
Once Napster went from Shawn Fannings dorm room to having a CEO in a suit, you had better believe they are going to turn it into a business to make money. The reason it is free is to get everyone to use it and when the technology is perfected (ie it is difficult for you to switch to something else) then along come the fees. How do you think they make their money? Even if it were a bunch of people working for the "good of us all" do you think their servers and bandwidth and programming time is free? One more comment that will be sure to get me modded down, they were always in it to promote trading copyrighted works. Not to promote independant music. There are plenty of services that do that, their goal is to get everyone using them and what better way to do that is to give away other people's stuff.
I thought that besides the prior art issue, a patent had to be non-obvious by professionals in that industry. I really do not see how "one-click" shopping is non-obvious. It seems completly obvious to me. Kind of like "one-step" brakes on a car. Does anyone know why it isn't challenged on this?
The real problem is all the dot coms with sucky ideas getting hundreds of million in VC simply because they were "dot com". Burn through that, stick the investors and closed the doors. Individuals have nothing to do with stock prices when etoys goes from like $100 a share to closed. $0 a share. Nothing. How many companies have done this to the market now?
The idea that these developments will eventually filter down to regular electric cars is the whole reason to do this. That's one of the reasons car companies pump money into auto racing, to help increase technology as well as marketing their product.
Not Taiwan. They do way too much trade with us and you can bet if they disregarded our IP laws like that there would be sanctions. Of course there are plenty of fake Rolex's and the like being made there, but if they do make it to American shores, it is black market. By opening a Napster type service it would be a direct business, and the recording industry and our government would get their shorts in a bunch. Better to be some country we don't really trade greatly with anyway. China like you said. Or Russia.
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And there are people in the poorer parts of cities that don't have a phone and rely on pay phones for all their calls.
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In other words, I simply don't buy the logic: "He has a right to own his work. Therefore the state has an obligation to create a legal framework in which the actions of others are restricted so as to create something he can sell."
I do.
I'm not intrinsically opposed to patents but the debate never seems to focus on the actual justification for them; to wit, to promote science and the arts. We focus on whether failing to grant patents would lead to "theft" of a thing that can't be owned at all except through the patent.
People fall into two groups on this subject. One group says that patents give people incentive to work and produce things for they can own and sell them (I am in this group). The other group feels that people will expand on others ideas and that things will be created for the good of the people. They feel that if ideas can be built on quickly, better products will result.
Call me a cynic, but I think that most people would not produce under a system like this. You would have very few producers and many people who just take what is there and return nothing.
I don't think he ever said he had a right to money for his hard work. He is pointing out that he has a right to own his work and sell it if he can. There are people who make money surfing. They are good enough that people will associate products with them and they help to sell things. They create value with their abilities. Surfing however, cannot be duplicated with copy *.* like his type of work can.
Speaking as a student, I went through most of my programming projects with no problems. I understood how the code should work and wrote it accordingly. However, that did nothing to help me debug programs and see what problems common mistakes could give you when a program is run. I learned just as much helping people fix their problems as they did by having me show them how to do something. I saw everything from people not understanding pointers to people just throwing all the code that a teacher went over in class into a program and hoping it compiled and worked "magically". I really learned how to use debuggers with other peoples messes, which in turn helped me when I got to the real world and had to write "complex" programs instead of "read add and write" type of learning programs.
Either The Discovery Channel or The Learning Channel has shown a special on this a few times. It is very interesting. He stayed awake in a city in a glass box. People eventually had to keep waking him up forcefully because he would fall asleep with his eyes open. The physical change in him was incredible from start to finish and he was really wacked out at the end. After the telethon, his marraige broke up and I believe he lost his job. Sleep deprevation can be very serious. IIRC one of the things they said was that this was caused by a complete lack of sleep. Even an hour or two here and there greatly reduce the chance of serious damage.
If you take your company and put a mission critical piece of software in the hands of someone else you had better have a contingency plan in place for a backup in case it doesn't work. Outsourcing is good and definitely has it's place, but competent decisions should also be made about whether it is right for the situation and then if it is what to do if it fails.
Right, which is exactly how it should be. AIMster users can share whatever they want ONLY TO A LIMITED FEW. If they post on a newsgroup "hey, got some mp3's up, come check me out" there is suspicion, warrant and action. With Napster, the client advertises what you have. You can do a search, find it and have suspicion. I think that Napster is in the wrong and AIMster is legit. They should win this case.
Getting rid of old paper reports is much better for the environment than trying to figure out how to dispose of monitors down the road when they go bad. If each office has a computer in easy viewing distance, each manager/executive has a laptop that has a real time life of 3 or 4 years before it is obsolete, that is a big bunch of plastic and other materials to dispose of. Monitors contain lead, cathode ray tubes and other materials that are harmful to the environment. I don't condone waste either way, but to say that all paper should be done away with and computers used is just as irresponsible as wasting it.
I think while everyone keeps making analogies between computers and cars, or toasters, or even sofas, don't forget where a computer is in it's evolution. Mass usage of computers is in it's infancy and with innovation that is continually taking place, tech support will continue to be a problem. Constant innovation and trying new things means constantly having new bugs and new problems. Using the car analogy, anyone can step into a car (in the US at least, but standardization is similar in other countries) and the gas is on the right, brakes on left, key goes into the right side of the steering wheel. Turn the key and step on the gas. You can even go from driving an old Ford Festiva to driving a Ford Dually and everything operates roughly the same. Computers are nowhere near that. The computer a business person uses is nothing like the computer a college student uses. Every computer has different problems and solutions. If every Dell computer were exactly the same with exactly the same software, support calls would be much less and much easier to deal with. But not all computers are Dell's and we definitely would not want the same software as everyone else. Until computers reach a point of standardization we will continue to struggle with this challenge. The difficult part of this problem is that this type of standardization is not even on the horizon yet. Another thing with the car analogy. If you make a modification to your car, you had better know what you are doing or have your own mechanic, because the dealer will CHARGE you to fix your mistakes. Anyone can do anything to their computers and expect Dell to service it for nothing as a cost of selling you the computer. I can't think of another product that does not void the warranty when you make modifications to it. The fact that computer companies are even providing support in these cases is commendable. I think that eventually we will have "toaster" pc's for consumers that do everything that a consumer wants in one non-configurable box. The problem is that we a. can't cram everything that a consumer would want to do into a box easily and b. we don't know what they want to do tomorrow.
One thing to think about with this point of view is that in earlier times, if people wanted to listen to music they HAD to go see it live. Now we can listen to it anywhere and anytime through everything. Not arguing your point, it is very good, just trying to add to it.
I've got a Dell Latitude p166, 128mb ram, 2 gig drive with one usb port that I picked up from a place that does corporate buyouts for 400 bucks. Not a great machine, but for 400 dollars it works really well for what I need it to do.
The increase was in album sales. Overall music sales are down because of a 40% drop in sales of singles. Look at the article here on MSNBC.
We use some of these at work as terminals. Nice and compact. I doubt that any of the models available would work for a serious gaming machine, but they may be a good to contact for a case and parts. They use a floppy that is shorter than normal size to help keep the case so small. Liberty Computers
I wasn't the original poster, but if anyone knows about ASFRecorder and goes to google and types "ASFRecorder", your site is #10.
First to market? In what? IE is a rippoff of Netscape and Mosaic. Windows is a ripoff of the MAC interface. Windows 95 is a ripoff of OS/2. DOS was bought from someone else. Microsoft has been first to market with very few products. Marketing and ease of use give them the market share they have. Don't get me wrong, I like MS products and use them everyday, but they hardly are "innovators". They are damn good at polishing a product for the general public.
The vulnerability could not be exploited if File Downloads have been disabled in the Security Zone in which the e-mail is rendered. This is not a default setting in any zone, however. - Microsoft's Security Bulletin
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Looks like your open too.
Once Napster went from Shawn Fannings dorm room to having a CEO in a suit, you had better believe they are going to turn it into a business to make money. The reason it is free is to get everyone to use it and when the technology is perfected (ie it is difficult for you to switch to something else) then along come the fees. How do you think they make their money? Even if it were a bunch of people working for the "good of us all" do you think their servers and bandwidth and programming time is free? One more comment that will be sure to get me modded down, they were always in it to promote trading copyrighted works. Not to promote independant music. There are plenty of services that do that, their goal is to get everyone using them and what better way to do that is to give away other people's stuff.
There will only be about 25 companies left with domain names anyway. We won't even need new names.
I thought that besides the prior art issue, a patent had to be non-obvious by professionals in that industry. I really do not see how "one-click" shopping is non-obvious. It seems completly obvious to me. Kind of like "one-step" brakes on a car. Does anyone know why it isn't challenged on this?
I could use some Holographic swim trunks that prevent shrinkage.
The real problem is all the dot coms with sucky ideas getting hundreds of million in VC simply because they were "dot com". Burn through that, stick the investors and closed the doors. Individuals have nothing to do with stock prices when etoys goes from like $100 a share to closed. $0 a share. Nothing. How many companies have done this to the market now?
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Yeah, but almost all game console manufacturers lose money on the console but make it up on the games.
The idea that these developments will eventually filter down to regular electric cars is the whole reason to do this. That's one of the reasons car companies pump money into auto racing, to help increase technology as well as marketing their product.
Not Taiwan. They do way too much trade with us and you can bet if they disregarded our IP laws like that there would be sanctions. Of course there are plenty of fake Rolex's and the like being made there, but if they do make it to American shores, it is black market. By opening a Napster type service it would be a direct business, and the recording industry and our government would get their shorts in a bunch. Better to be some country we don't really trade greatly with anyway. China like you said. Or Russia.
And there are people in the poorer parts of cities that don't have a phone and rely on pay phones for all their calls.