Using NT4/IE5 and it tried to open with WinZip as it normally would have a ZIP file. Except, of course, WinZip couldn't read it. Your file never got executed.
Being on the @home broadband network, I can tell you that the REAL killer apps are still the Nimda and CodeRed worms which continue to run loose on many machines. Talk about a bandwidth siphon! I can't think of anything else that's sucked as much bandwidth as these guys.
That report was generated with WormScan, a neat tool for analyzing your Apache logs. I should probably disclose that I'm the author of WormScan - feel free to give it a go against your logs.
Quote from the second paragraph: In a three-month computing marathon, the Velocity I cluster at the Cornell Theory Center was able to mimic cosmic conditions over eons that would cause physical perturbations in the moons of Jupiter.
See? It's not THAT hard to find it when you actually read the article!
She should be more careful with her web page. If she wants to advertise her Web Design expertise, it wouldn't hurt to test the site with Netscape. When I hire people I often go to the sites they mention on their resume and try them out. I imagine others do as well.
With Netscape 4.79 on Win98, the only thing that you see is the navigation buttons on most of the pages. A quick examination shows that she is improperly closing her table tags using <table> instead of </table>
In Canada - Rogers cable is currently switching to their own servers.
You forgot the second half of that statement:
...and they are doing a shitty job of it. Their mail servers were totally unprepared for the amount of traffic they got and crashed (I mean come on - did they not know how many customers they have?), they had insufficient customer support (call queues were backed up well over an hour all weekend last weekend).
Furthermore, why the hell is my LOGIN USERNAME for the pop3 email server have to have the full email address (ie myaddy@rogers.com)? The '@' symbol in the login name broke 90% of the email clients out there including older versions of Eudora and ALL versions of Netscape
Call them for support. Wait an hour or two. Oh - they don't support Eudora. They don't support Netscape. What DO they support? Outlook Express. Only. That's it. On Windows. Only. Nevermind that when I got the service originally, Netscape was the browser that their own CD installed on my machine. Not IE.
Sorry for the rant, but Rogers was really ill-prepared for this switch. They did a crappy job, didn't seem to do any basic load testing or platform profiling, and now I notice that I'm getting targetted ads from Symatico when visiting many Canadian sites. Visit www.canoe.ca if you're on Rogers - you'll see the ad eventually. It says something like:
'Changing your email address is a pain. Maybe it's time to switch ISPs'. Yeah... maybe it is.
Funny how it goes. I bought one of their cameras before their floods of advertising, over a year ago. I saw the camera originally from a post on Slashdot that was somewhat ontopic at the time, and it got me curious. At the time, I had never heard about x10 and thought that the wireless camera was a cool idea (wanted to see if I could mount it on my Lego Mindstorms robot).
Now that I have the camera (and admittedly am happy with it), I had been considering getting more of their gear, BUT their ads have ticked me off enough to say 'forget it'. I don't like their tactics nowadays.
I don't know what the optimal is, but this is how it works (more or less) at my company. I will not give out any individual names nor the company I work for to protect the guilty:
Marketing owns the content on our web site (the www.com address). They can access and update the docs themselves.
A separate entity, E-Business, owns a separate site which runs our app. The people in this org manage the application and content on this server.
The IT department ties everything together by managing all of the server hardware, os and network configuration.
Basically, this structure helps our company by keeping the people who know a certain area best working in just that area. The coders do the coding, the designers do the content, and the IT guys manage the hardware aspects. Most of the time this works out ok.
The frustrations come in mostly when Marketing or E-Business run into network problems, and have to turn to the IT department. Unfortunately this particular IT department isn't a very reliable one, often ignoring or conveniently 'forgetting' about a problem until you have to pester them to look at it. Problems that take 15-20 minutes to fix are left broken for days until you come back to bring it up again. And again. And no, they are not overworked. They also have a habit of changing things around (IP addresses, router configuration, firewall 'upgrades') without notifying the other departments who run dependant services. If these guys worked for me, they would have been fired long ago for their work ethic and lack of organization. Since they don't work for me, and they're not even in the same branch in our org hierarchy, I can't do that. You have to make sure you've got a decent IT manager who can control this sort of thing. Too bad this particular one can't (his employees reflect his own behaviour).
I hear some posters expressing concern that bacteria is getting all this free beer. As far as I'm concerned - better the bacteria than me. Let me explain...
Look at it this way - it's not all bad. I'm sure they'll be using cheap American domestic beer (yuck! yellow water!).
At least they won't be using imported Canadian, Mexican, or (mmm!) German, etc beers. Now THAT would be tragic!
I've had good experiences with a couple of Mylex controllers as well as the Compaq SmartArray line.
With Mylex, you can get the controllers either as PCI cards for the box, or you can get one that comes as a big box (external controller).
The PCI version looks basically like a SCSI card, and is configured by software you get with it.
The external version is meant to be mounted in a separate tower with your drives. Often comes with its own memory and LCD screen and fun buttons to play with (and configure the array with). It has two (or more) connectors - one to the computer (entire array appears as a single SCSI ID) and one to the rest of the drives in their own SCSI chain. The advantage to the external model is that you only need to install the drivers for your SCSI card - the array requires no additional software. Disadvantage is that they require space in an external tower - often they are full height (2 bays).
With the Compaq beasties, you'd need the Compaq SmartStart CD that comes with their servers to configure the stupid arrays. Can't find the software on their site anywhere. But... they are good controllers and have never let me down.
One thing though - RAID 0 (striping) is a dumb configuration for business use. If any single drive dies, you lose all the information on ALL of them. RAID 0 basically chains the drives together to make one gigantic drive.
RAID 1 (mirror) offers you redundancy. One drive mirrors to another. But... that means you lose the capacity of one drive (and RAID 1 only supports 2 drives). If a drive dies, use the other one.
RAID 0+1 (stripe + mirror) for use with an even number of drives. Basically stripe as many drives together as you want, then mirror that entire array to another set of drives. You lose the capacity of half of your drives for the mirror. If a drive dies, you use the other chain.
RAID 5 is probably one of the most common configurations. Chain a few drives (most people do 3-5, but it supports more) and it distributes parity information throughout the array. If you lose a drive, you can replace it and keep going - no data loss. You lose the capacity of ONE drive in this configuration. Thus, it's less of a loss if you have 5 drives (20%) than if you have 3 (33%). It's perhaps not the fastest type of array around, especially for lots of seeks (it's fast for large files) - do not use RAID 5 for a database, for example.
All this being said, if all you need is striping (RAID 0), chances are that whatever OS you're using supports doing this in software quite nicely without much overhead at all. For example, NT and Linux both support software RAID 0 right out of the box.
If you MUST buy a controller, then Ebay is your friend.
No, we have the CRIA, which no doubt is the organization responsible for that tax we pay on blank CDs.
That tax is only on blanks which are labelled as 'for music'. As we all know, there's nothing preventing us from buying the much-cheaper 'for data' CDs. I'm not complaining - I buy them in bulk for somewhere between 50 - 75 cents per disc.
I'm allowed to make copies of my music for my own personal use.
I'm allowed to lend an original CD to a friend.
That friend can copy it for their personal use.
I am NOT allowed to make a copy and give it to a friend.
If I make a legal copy of the music (say for my own mix CD) and it damages my equipment, you'd bet I'm going to go after the music companies. We don't have the RIAA here.
He obviously didn't even bother to check, but rather was just spewing FUD. Using Netcraft, I found out the following (now that you got me curious)... these are the (Canadian) banks that I trust with my money nowadays...
www.tdcanadatrust.com - IBM_HTTP_Server/1.3.12.2 Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) on AIX
www.ingdirect.ca - Netscape-Enterprise/4.1 on unknown
www.cibc.com - Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP2 on Solaris
www.bmo.com - Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP3 on Solaris
www.royalbank.ca - Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP3 on unknown
You will need 3 hard drives (or two, if you don't plan on sharing data between OSs)...
Buy a couple of removable IDE trays for your hard drives. Here in Canada I've been able to pick these up for about $20/CDN each.
Install one drive permanently in your machine as the master on the second IDE channel - you can use this one for storing all of your data files so both OSs can access it.
The other two (or more drives), install into the trays. Set the bay component of the tray up as your master on the first IDE channel. Now insert one of your drives and install OS of your choice. After doing so, power down machine, replace that drive with the other one and install your other OS.
Now when you want to boot another OS, all you have to do is power down your machine, yank and replace your hard drive with the other one. This is the system I use at home for using my PC with Win98, WinNT and Linux! It's great! Yes, you have to buy a little more stuff, but hard drives are relatively cheap nowadays...
I've been hit with over 78000 Nimda attacks, and about 16000 attacks between Code Red (1 and 2).
I use a utility I wrote to keep track of all the attacks on my Apache server. It's called WormScan, and you can find it here. It's written in Java, is licensed under the GPL, and only needs a couple of minutes to scan through your logs (depending on size and number of attacks, of course). Lots and lots of features, and extremely flexible. It generates detailed reports which can help you get a look at what's going on.
I don't suppose anyone else remembers the
infamous fire in a Bell Canada phone exchange in Toronto. This fire knocked out phones in much of the city for a couple of days as the crews scrambled to fix things. It was interesting trying to do business....
In my company's case, we still had working Internet via ISDN, so we were still able to go about our business. Some cell phones weren't working, however.
This article has some information about techniques used to INSTALL vacuum systems. It might give you an idea of how the thing might have been built if it was done correctly.
I have just released my tool which can be used to generate reports about these worms by examining your Apache logs. Very configurable, lots of options, written in Java, released under the GPL.
No it doesn't. Outlook is compatible only with outlook. You can do all you want plus more with a free thing called WebCalendar. It works with every friggin web browser, not just a handful of braindead windows boxes.
The only problem is that you're being naive. This is an established organization which has a system in place which works well for them. Forget MS for a minute. The organization has no interest in changing this system at this time, and frankly, at the time that the system was put in place few reasonable alternatives were available which were supported to the IS department's satisfaction.
But none of that is my problem. I don't care about that situation one bit. All I care about is trying to get something I can use which would be compatible with the system in place. Because I'm the one that needs it, and they have no need or interest to change the entire company's calendar and email just because one developer (me) wants to use Linux. Not that they have a problem with me using Linux (in fact, I'm getting encouragement), but I'm not getting any money to find software just so I can do email when I already have an MS-Office seat paid for for me.
If a company has made themself dependent on the MS platform for the sake of email and Calendar, I most seriously doubt their judgement and competence.
I'm judging your competence by your assumptions. I never said they made themselves dependent just because email and calendar. I said that it's a service that my company depends one (one of many). And guess what - it's not like we're the only company on the planet which uses Microsoft software in their server room. Grow up, and learn to accept the fact that companies have infrastructure in place which isn't necessarily easy or likely to change overnight, even if the desire was there. I work for a large Microsoft shop which sells Microsoft products and also handles support and service as part of our offerings (again - don't read into that, because we sell non-MS stuff too). I'm not part of that - I'm in a development group which is separate from our sales and service, which lets me use whatever platform I want... so long as I can get it working like I need it to. I use Linux for a couple of my servers, but so far my workstation is no go.
I am a big supporter and advocate of Open Source and Linux in particular, especially at work. You need to realize, as I do, that you can't make a company just drop everything and move to Joe's Open-Source Whatzat Software when there is already a setup in place which is paid for and works just fine. In order to penetrate this market, the transition needs to be painless. Earn a few users by giving them something compatible (like myself). Other users will see the goodness and follow.
Uhh... no. I'm assuming you haven't used Outlook's calendar, but here's what it gives me. Think large corporate environment:
-I can see anyone else's calendar without leaving my desk. Where's my boss - OH - he's in a meeting which is in meeting room 2. Ok.
-I can book a meeting, and at a glance see when everyone is free (on a chart) and choose my meeting time by that. No millions of phone calls to arrange a mutually-convenient time
-I can book a meeting room, reserve a projector and send a notice to all attendees in one step, without picking up the phone
This is why it's important that it's compatible. Everyone needs to be able to access everyone else's calendar for this to work. Outlook, despite its faults, does this very nicely.
but they seem to be more interested in the corperate market
Keep in mind that my original post WAS about the corporate environment. That being said, a downloadable evaluation version would be nice. I don't use Outlook at home.
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Using NT4/IE5 and it tried to open with WinZip as it normally would have a ZIP file. Except, of course, WinZip couldn't read it. Your file never got executed.
Being on the @home broadband network, I can tell you that the REAL killer apps are still the Nimda and CodeRed worms which continue to run loose on many machines. Talk about a bandwidth siphon! I can't think of anything else that's sucked as much bandwidth as these guys.
My generated report indicates over 152,000 attacks since June!
That report was generated with WormScan, a neat tool for analyzing your Apache logs. I should probably disclose that I'm the author of WormScan - feel free to give it a go against your logs.
I saw no information on run time
Quote from the second paragraph: In a three-month computing marathon, the Velocity I cluster at the Cornell Theory Center was able to mimic cosmic conditions over eons that would cause physical perturbations in the moons of Jupiter.
See? It's not THAT hard to find it when you actually read the article!
More like:
"Howard Schmidt, Microsoft's Chief Security Advisor"
Sure, he gives advise. But nowhere did it say that they actually listen.
She should be more careful with her web page. If she wants to advertise her Web Design expertise, it wouldn't hurt to test the site with Netscape. When I hire people I often go to the sites they mention on their resume and try them out. I imagine others do as well.
With Netscape 4.79 on Win98, the only thing that you see is the navigation buttons on most of the pages. A quick examination shows that she is improperly closing her table tags using <table> instead of </table>
In Canada - Rogers cable is currently switching to their own servers.
You forgot the second half of that statement:
...and they are doing a shitty job of it. Their mail servers were totally unprepared for the amount of traffic they got and crashed (I mean come on - did they not know how many customers they have?), they had insufficient customer support (call queues were backed up well over an hour all weekend last weekend).
Furthermore, why the hell is my LOGIN USERNAME for the pop3 email server have to have the full email address (ie myaddy@rogers.com)? The '@' symbol in the login name broke 90% of the email clients out there including older versions of Eudora and ALL versions of Netscape
Call them for support. Wait an hour or two. Oh - they don't support Eudora. They don't support Netscape. What DO they support? Outlook Express. Only. That's it. On Windows. Only. Nevermind that when I got the service originally, Netscape was the browser that their own CD installed on my machine. Not IE.
Sorry for the rant, but Rogers was really ill-prepared for this switch. They did a crappy job, didn't seem to do any basic load testing or platform profiling, and now I notice that I'm getting targetted ads from Symatico when visiting many Canadian sites. Visit www.canoe.ca if you're on Rogers - you'll see the ad eventually. It says something like:
'Changing your email address is a pain. Maybe it's time to switch ISPs'. Yeah... maybe it is.
Funny how it goes. I bought one of their cameras before their floods of advertising, over a year ago. I saw the camera originally from a post on Slashdot that was somewhat ontopic at the time, and it got me curious. At the time, I had never heard about x10 and thought that the wireless camera was a cool idea (wanted to see if I could mount it on my Lego Mindstorms robot).
Now that I have the camera (and admittedly am happy with it), I had been considering getting more of their gear, BUT their ads have ticked me off enough to say 'forget it'. I don't like their tactics nowadays.
I don't know what the optimal is, but this is how it works (more or less) at my company. I will not give out any individual names nor the company I work for to protect the guilty:
Marketing owns the content on our web site (the www.com address). They can access and update the docs themselves.
A separate entity, E-Business, owns a separate site which runs our app. The people in this org manage the application and content on this server.
The IT department ties everything together by managing all of the server hardware, os and network configuration.
Basically, this structure helps our company by keeping the people who know a certain area best working in just that area. The coders do the coding, the designers do the content, and the IT guys manage the hardware aspects. Most of the time this works out ok.
The frustrations come in mostly when Marketing or E-Business run into network problems, and have to turn to the IT department. Unfortunately this particular IT department isn't a very reliable one, often ignoring or conveniently 'forgetting' about a problem until you have to pester them to look at it. Problems that take 15-20 minutes to fix are left broken for days until you come back to bring it up again. And again. And no, they are not overworked. They also have a habit of changing things around (IP addresses, router configuration, firewall 'upgrades') without notifying the other departments who run dependant services. If these guys worked for me, they would have been fired long ago for their work ethic and lack of organization. Since they don't work for me, and they're not even in the same branch in our org hierarchy, I can't do that. You have to make sure you've got a decent IT manager who can control this sort of thing. Too bad this particular one can't (his employees reflect his own behaviour).
I hear some posters expressing concern that bacteria is getting all this free beer. As far as I'm concerned - better the bacteria than me. Let me explain...
Look at it this way - it's not all bad. I'm sure they'll be using cheap American domestic beer (yuck! yellow water!).
At least they won't be using imported Canadian, Mexican, or (mmm!) German, etc beers. Now THAT would be tragic!
I've had good experiences with a couple of Mylex controllers as well as the Compaq SmartArray line.
With Mylex, you can get the controllers either as PCI cards for the box, or you can get one that comes as a big box (external controller).
The PCI version looks basically like a SCSI card, and is configured by software you get with it.
The external version is meant to be mounted in a separate tower with your drives. Often comes with its own memory and LCD screen and fun buttons to play with (and configure the array with). It has two (or more) connectors - one to the computer (entire array appears as a single SCSI ID) and one to the rest of the drives in their own SCSI chain. The advantage to the external model is that you only need to install the drivers for your SCSI card - the array requires no additional software. Disadvantage is that they require space in an external tower - often they are full height (2 bays).
With the Compaq beasties, you'd need the Compaq SmartStart CD that comes with their servers to configure the stupid arrays. Can't find the software on their site anywhere. But... they are good controllers and have never let me down.
One thing though - RAID 0 (striping) is a dumb configuration for business use. If any single drive dies, you lose all the information on ALL of them. RAID 0 basically chains the drives together to make one gigantic drive.
RAID 1 (mirror) offers you redundancy. One drive mirrors to another. But... that means you lose the capacity of one drive (and RAID 1 only supports 2 drives). If a drive dies, use the other one.
RAID 0+1 (stripe + mirror) for use with an even number of drives. Basically stripe as many drives together as you want, then mirror that entire array to another set of drives. You lose the capacity of half of your drives for the mirror. If a drive dies, you use the other chain.
RAID 5 is probably one of the most common configurations. Chain a few drives (most people do 3-5, but it supports more) and it distributes parity information throughout the array. If you lose a drive, you can replace it and keep going - no data loss. You lose the capacity of ONE drive in this configuration. Thus, it's less of a loss if you have 5 drives (20%) than if you have 3 (33%). It's perhaps not the fastest type of array around, especially for lots of seeks (it's fast for large files) - do not use RAID 5 for a database, for example.
All this being said, if all you need is striping (RAID 0), chances are that whatever OS you're using supports doing this in software quite nicely without much overhead at all. For example, NT and Linux both support software RAID 0 right out of the box.
If you MUST buy a controller, then Ebay is your friend.
Bounty $20000 for developing an application that will bring your computer to a crawl.
AFAIK nobody suggested that the driver has to be written in Java
disclosure: I AM a Java developer and I was just being sarcastic - no flames please
No, we have the CRIA, which no doubt is the organization responsible for that tax we pay on blank CDs.
That tax is only on blanks which are labelled as 'for music'. As we all know, there's nothing preventing us from buying the much-cheaper 'for data' CDs. I'm not complaining - I buy them in bulk for somewhere between 50 - 75 cents per disc.
I've managed to grab copies of the software just as their site got /.d.
Please be nice, because I'm only on cable. Grab the files here.
I'm allowed to make copies of my music for my own personal use.
I'm allowed to lend an original CD to a friend.
That friend can copy it for their personal use.
I am NOT allowed to make a copy and give it to a friend.
If I make a legal copy of the music (say for my own mix CD) and it damages my equipment, you'd bet I'm going to go after the music companies. We don't have the RIAA here.
He obviously didn't even bother to check, but rather was just spewing FUD. Using Netcraft, I found out the following (now that you got me curious)... these are the (Canadian) banks that I trust with my money nowadays...
www.tdcanadatrust.com - IBM_HTTP_Server/1.3.12.2 Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) on AIX
www.ingdirect.ca - Netscape-Enterprise/4.1 on unknown
www.cibc.com - Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP2 on Solaris
www.bmo.com - Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP3 on Solaris
www.royalbank.ca - Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP3 on unknown
You will need 3 hard drives (or two, if you don't plan on sharing data between OSs)...
Buy a couple of removable IDE trays for your hard drives. Here in Canada I've been able to pick these up for about $20/CDN each.
Install one drive permanently in your machine as the master on the second IDE channel - you can use this one for storing all of your data files so both OSs can access it.
The other two (or more drives), install into the trays. Set the bay component of the tray up as your master on the first IDE channel. Now insert one of your drives and install OS of your choice. After doing so, power down machine, replace that drive with the other one and install your other OS.
Now when you want to boot another OS, all you have to do is power down your machine, yank and replace your hard drive with the other one. This is the system I use at home for using my PC with Win98, WinNT and Linux! It's great! Yes, you have to buy a little more stuff, but hard drives are relatively cheap nowadays...
I've been hit with over 78000 Nimda attacks, and about 16000 attacks between Code Red (1 and 2).
I use a utility I wrote to keep track of all the attacks on my Apache server. It's called WormScan, and you can find it here. It's written in Java, is licensed under the GPL, and only needs a couple of minutes to scan through your logs (depending on size and number of attacks, of course). Lots and lots of features, and extremely flexible. It generates detailed reports which can help you get a look at what's going on.
This is not to be confused with anatomic computing, which is an entirely different concept.
I don't suppose anyone else remembers the
infamous fire in a Bell Canada phone exchange in Toronto. This fire knocked out phones in much of the city for a couple of days as the crews scrambled to fix things. It was interesting trying to do business....
In my company's case, we still had working Internet via ISDN, so we were still able to go about our business. Some cell phones weren't working, however.
This article has some information about techniques used to INSTALL vacuum systems. It might give you an idea of how the thing might have been built if it was done correctly.
I have just released my tool which can be used to generate reports about these worms by examining your Apache logs. Very configurable, lots of options, written in Java, released under the GPL.
Please check it out at http://www.websoup.net/wormscan/. I'm looking forward to some feedback.
No it doesn't. Outlook is compatible only with outlook. You can do all you want plus more with a free thing called WebCalendar. It works with every friggin web browser, not just a handful of braindead windows boxes.
The only problem is that you're being naive. This is an established organization which has a system in place which works well for them. Forget MS for a minute. The organization has no interest in changing this system at this time, and frankly, at the time that the system was put in place few reasonable alternatives were available which were supported to the IS department's satisfaction.
But none of that is my problem. I don't care about that situation one bit. All I care about is trying to get something I can use which would be compatible with the system in place. Because I'm the one that needs it, and they have no need or interest to change the entire company's calendar and email just because one developer (me) wants to use Linux. Not that they have a problem with me using Linux (in fact, I'm getting encouragement), but I'm not getting any money to find software just so I can do email when I already have an MS-Office seat paid for for me.
If a company has made themself dependent on the MS platform for the sake of email and Calendar, I most seriously doubt their judgement and competence.
I'm judging your competence by your assumptions. I never said they made themselves dependent just because email and calendar. I said that it's a service that my company depends one (one of many). And guess what - it's not like we're the only company on the planet which uses Microsoft software in their server room. Grow up, and learn to accept the fact that companies have infrastructure in place which isn't necessarily easy or likely to change overnight, even if the desire was there. I work for a large Microsoft shop which sells Microsoft products and also handles support and service as part of our offerings (again - don't read into that, because we sell non-MS stuff too). I'm not part of that - I'm in a development group which is separate from our sales and service, which lets me use whatever platform I want... so long as I can get it working like I need it to. I use Linux for a couple of my servers, but so far my workstation is no go.
I am a big supporter and advocate of Open Source and Linux in particular, especially at work. You need to realize, as I do, that you can't make a company just drop everything and move to Joe's Open-Source Whatzat Software when there is already a setup in place which is paid for and works just fine. In order to penetrate this market, the transition needs to be painless. Earn a few users by giving them something compatible (like myself). Other users will see the goodness and follow.
Get a REAL calendar, and a notepad
Uhh... no. I'm assuming you haven't used Outlook's calendar, but here's what it gives me. Think large corporate environment:
-I can see anyone else's calendar without leaving my desk. Where's my boss - OH - he's in a meeting which is in meeting room 2. Ok.
-I can book a meeting, and at a glance see when everyone is free (on a chart) and choose my meeting time by that. No millions of phone calls to arrange a mutually-convenient time
-I can book a meeting room, reserve a projector and send a notice to all attendees in one step, without picking up the phone
This is why it's important that it's compatible. Everyone needs to be able to access everyone else's calendar for this to work. Outlook, despite its faults, does this very nicely.
Anybody have a link I can try?
but they seem to be more interested in the corperate market
Keep in mind that my original post WAS about the corporate environment. That being said, a downloadable evaluation version would be nice. I don't use Outlook at home.