But if you enable network services, presumably you have to knock holes in your local firewall to allow them to be accessed.
I can't think of any additional services on my desktop that would need external network access. I have file sharing (NFS), messaging (Jabber), mail and web access without opening any ports for external access.
I guess the point I was trying to make was that a firewall is not some magical protection: there have to be vulnerable services listening on ports for you to be vulnerable.
Why are there any ports open to the outside world on a default install of a desktop OS? The only port open on mine (ubuntu) at present is 22 (ssh) and that's because I explicitly enabled it - the default install had none.
You might be a little annoyed if your removal guys moved all your stuff in to your house, left before you arrived and left the front door open.
Why should the default install of an operating system require a firewall? Presumably no network services are running on the default install. There's no need to run a firewall if all your ports are closed to start with.
The trolls must love Gentoo stories- their posts are so damn hard to spot mixed in amongst the real gentoo user posts.
Is that poster saying Gentoo uses less RAM because it doesn't install so many packages just clueless or a troll? Does that other guy *really* think typing a bunch of commands verbatim from a manual teaches him about Linux? So many opportunties to troll...
Gentoo users say this so often I thought I'd give it a go. I'm sitting here watching the compiler output from building X.org, but I don't seem to be learning anything. Maybe I'm doing something wrong - any pointers for me on how I should be learning from compiler output?
- Those aren't minor errors. They are major mistakes that make the post nonsensical - Slashdot is a news site. I assume, therefore, that people come here to read news. Why should I be forced to already know about a subject just so I can parse the news post? - The editors who post the stories all (AFAIK) have English as a first language and it is their job to post clear stories for the readers to discuss. - You clearly can write grammatically. Why bother? According to you I would probably know what you meant even if you wrote horribly garbled English. You bother because it would take twice as long for anyone to read and, despite your protestations that "we should know what he means", there would most likely be some ambiguity in the interpretation of your post. - Clarity and accuracy of writing are double-plus good.
You're missing the point - this is Slashdot. This isn't a discussion site. Its whole purpose is to allow thousands of readers to skim the first few paragraphs of an article, looking for something that allows them to post a comment proving how clever they are and how stupid whoever wrote the article was. Never mind that if they stopped rushing to make outraged posts for a bit they might actually be stimulated to think.
I always find it odd that so many "Nerds", people who spend their time programming in languages that demand incredibly exact syntax, can't get basic "natural language" syntax right.
Exactly - unless you want to buy chart crap, CDs are pretty cheap. Most of the stuff in Fopp is around 5-7 pounds per CD (Chilli peppers, Bowie, Tom Petty to name a few I've bought from there).
I could try asking permission, but do you want to wait 6 hours for a cool breaking story while we wait for permission to link someone?
That is a pretty silly point. Would you rather:
Wait a few hours while we get permission
Wait a day to read the article because it's slashdotted
But maybe I'm just bitter, having served 20,000 Slashdotters on my 512K ADSL last night. According to MRTG, my router was using about 150% of my upstream bandwidth for most of the time.
Yes, it's hosted on my 256k upstream ADSL line, which is why I said "Use the Coral cache" in all the story postings!
Slashdot would also choose the day when I switch to my back up server (K6-2 233), in order to fix my main server, to post this on the front page. I was wondering why it was making that funny noise when I loaded the Slashdot front page...
Abbreviations (PC's, CD's etc.) do in American 'English'. But they don't even know how to use prepositions properly, so it's hardly surprising they would do something odd like that
Unfortunately, the usage seems to be polluting British English usage too.
It's not quite so clear cut as that, though. As I see it:
For adverts: - Running a web site costs money. The guys running it might even want to make a living - hiring good writers is expensive - Advertising money is a proven revenue source for media outlets - subscription sites don't seem to be a popular option
but, against that: - The adverts many sites run are overly intrusive and bandwidth-intensive - people who block adverts probably aren't the kind of people who are going to take notice of them anyway - just cramming more and more adverts down the throats of consumers is not a sustainable policy: evevntually, everybody will block them because it's impossible to read anything on the web otherwise.
But, sites have to be paid for somehow. Do you have any suggestions of alternative profit models for web sites?
Penny-arcade seems to get by well enough on its merchandise, advertising, freelance art work etc revenue, for example. I'm not sure how well that scales to smaller sites, though.
Each piece of contact data is not in a seperate file, they are each a seperate record in a database. In the past, each database record took up (size of record+8) bytes. It looks as if that it is now (size of record+8) and round up to nearest multiple of 512 bytes.
All the current applications for PalmOS use the database way of accessing files. So there's no real workaround for it, except rewriting applications to combine records into one and use their own database access wrapper.
This will affect the program I develop for Palm OS too, as it stores small (~100byte) macros in seperate records of a database.
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But if you enable network services, presumably you have to knock holes in your local firewall to allow them to be accessed.
I can't think of any additional services on my desktop that would need external network access. I have file sharing (NFS), messaging (Jabber), mail and web access without opening any ports for external access.
I guess the point I was trying to make was that a firewall is not some magical protection: there have to be vulnerable services listening on ports for you to be vulnerable.
Both GNOME and Ubuntu have switched to this approach too. It seems a good idea with volunteer projects to set solid deadlines like that.
Why are there any ports open to the outside world on a default install of a desktop OS? The only port open on mine (ubuntu) at present is 22 (ssh) and that's because I explicitly enabled it - the default install had none.
You might be a little annoyed if your removal guys moved all your stuff in to your house, left before you arrived and left the front door open.
Why should the default install of an operating system require a firewall? Presumably no network services are running on the default install. There's no need to run a firewall if all your ports are closed to start with.
The trolls must love Gentoo stories- their posts are so damn hard to spot mixed in amongst the real gentoo user posts.
Is that poster saying Gentoo uses less RAM because it doesn't install so many packages just clueless or a troll? Does that other guy *really* think typing a bunch of commands verbatim from a manual teaches him about Linux? So many opportunties to troll...
I would guess the grandparent is a troll.
Gentoo users say this so often I thought I'd give it a go. I'm sitting here watching the compiler output from building X.org, but I don't seem to be learning anything.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong - any pointers for me on how I should be learning from compiler output?
I don't know why I'm bothering but:
- Those aren't minor errors. They are major mistakes that make the post nonsensical
- Slashdot is a news site. I assume, therefore, that people come here to read news. Why should I be forced to already know about a subject just so I can parse the news post?
- The editors who post the stories all (AFAIK) have English as a first language and it is their job to post clear stories for the readers to discuss.
- You clearly can write grammatically. Why bother? According to you I would probably know what you meant even if you wrote horribly garbled English. You bother because it would take twice as long for anyone to read and, despite your protestations that "we should know what he means", there would most likely be some ambiguity in the interpretation of your post.
- Clarity and accuracy of writing are double-plus good.
You're missing the point - this is Slashdot. This isn't a discussion site. Its whole purpose is to allow thousands of readers to skim the first few paragraphs of an article, looking for something that allows them to post a comment proving how clever they are and how stupid whoever wrote the article was.
Never mind that if they stopped rushing to make outraged posts for a bit they might actually be stimulated to think.
English is not less tolerant: humans are. The post as written has either no meaning or a very strange one.
I guess you're right, though: people are incredibly lazy in the absence of compilers.
According to Netcraft, they run Linux.
I thought Slashdot had editors that spoke English as a first language?
I always find it odd that so many "Nerds", people who spend their time programming in languages that demand incredibly exact syntax, can't get basic "natural language" syntax right.
Just ignore them and they go away (eventually). It's not like anyone has to read people modded down to -1 anyway.
Exactly - unless you want to buy chart crap, CDs are pretty cheap. Most of the stuff in Fopp is around 5-7 pounds per CD (Chilli peppers, Bowie, Tom Petty to name a few I've bought from there).
That's alright, it's tailed off now anyway and I made a bit of money off clickthroughs on the google adsense ads on a site linked off the article :)
I'm glad you liked the article
From that FAQ:
I could try asking permission, but do you want to wait 6 hours for a cool breaking story while we wait for permission to link someone?
That is a pretty silly point. Would you rather:
But maybe I'm just bitter, having served 20,000 Slashdotters on my 512K ADSL last night. According to MRTG, my router was using about 150% of my upstream bandwidth for most of the time.
You think I posted this here! I don't know who did, but a bit of warning would have been nice.
It survived the combined attacked of osnews and gnomedesktop, but clearly slashdot is too much.
Hah! My feeble pipe means my 233Mhz laughs at the Slashdot effect. I'm going to stop posting now and save some bandwidth for readers.
Works for me from the UK. I guess that's kind of Europe...
It's often quite slow, though.
I'm amazed I can still post to slashdot. I didn't know modem lights could blink that fast.
Hi, I'm the guy who wrote the article.
Yes, it's hosted on my 256k upstream ADSL line, which is why I said "Use the Coral cache" in all the story postings!
Slashdot would also choose the day when I switch to my back up server (K6-2 233), in order to fix my main server, to post this on the front page. I was wondering why it was making that funny noise when I loaded the Slashdot front page...
Please use the Coral Cache!
Abbreviations (PC's, CD's etc.) do in American 'English'. But they don't even know how to use prepositions properly, so it's hardly surprising they would do something odd like that
Unfortunately, the usage seems to be polluting British English usage too.
Erm, I think that argument comes up most times anyone mentions Sun on Slashdot.
It's not quite so clear cut as that, though. As I see it:
For adverts:
- Running a web site costs money. The guys running it might even want to make a living
- hiring good writers is expensive
- Advertising money is a proven revenue source for media outlets
- subscription sites don't seem to be a popular option
but, against that:
- The adverts many sites run are overly intrusive and bandwidth-intensive
- people who block adverts probably aren't the kind of people who are going to take notice of them anyway
- just cramming more and more adverts down the throats of consumers is not a sustainable policy: evevntually, everybody will block them because it's impossible to read anything on the web otherwise.
But, sites have to be paid for somehow. Do you have any suggestions of alternative profit models for web sites?
Penny-arcade seems to get by well enough on its merchandise, advertising, freelance art work etc revenue, for example. I'm not sure how well that scales to smaller sites, though.
Each piece of contact data is not in a seperate file, they are each a seperate record in a database. In the past, each database record took up (size of record+8) bytes. It looks as if that it is now (size of record+8) and round up to nearest multiple of 512 bytes.
All the current applications for PalmOS use the database way of accessing files. So there's no real workaround for it, except rewriting applications to combine records into one and use their own database access wrapper.
This will affect the program I develop for Palm OS too, as it stores small (~100byte) macros in seperate records of a database.