Linux and BeOS were designed for two different things. Developers who get use out of one over the other should support and develop for whichever works for them.
yT bought the BeOS source code when Be went under.
Although media types are more likely to be using Mac OS X and Windows now, rather than any of the OSs you list (I was big on AmigaOS way back when, as it happens), it's great that we have options and that I could consider a return to the OS I used for video editing, if I wanted.
Any software product needs to be refined and expanded to meets its user's changing needs. Here's hoping yT is able to do that with Zeta.
It's based on BSD, but BSD is only a small part of it as a whole. Most Mac OS X users will have no idea they're running a BSD, or even a NEXT-derived OS.
All you're saying to me is that you're not part of YellowTAB's target market. No worries; hopefully enough people are that they'll make some money from Zeta.
And I'm not currently a BeOS user. I use FreeBSD and Mac OS X.
Zeta is aimed more at people who don't have the time, skill or inclination to customise their own open source OS, but who do have the money to pay for something that just works straight out of the box.
And for media pros without the skill, time or inclination to do that, here's BeOS! Ready-made for what they need. Understand?
And maybe BeOS was offering this stuff before the others were; did you think of that? Maybe there's an established user base of people who want to keep using the OS they're used to, rather than switch to one you'd like to see them using. Maybe they don't like your choice of OS, and maybe they wouldn't like the one you'd put together for them.
Maybe Be and YellowTAB "get it" in the exact way that you don't.
It's a single-user, low-latency media workstation OS for audio/video production. It does pretty much everything you can do with media on Mac OS X or Windows XP - but it does it faster and in a way that BeOS fans will be used to and comfortable with.
It's actually easier than that - if you give them some money, they'll mail it out to you on a physical disc. They even throw in a manual so morons who can't even get the OS' name right ("Zata"?) are at least in with a chance of understanding what it's about.
I can understand you wanting to pirate from big faceless corporations, but geez: YellowTAB is a really small and specialised company. If you like their stuff, buy it.
An "elite group of fans"? Nah: just a userbase making use of a product that does what they want it to. Would you continue to use and support your OS if only 5% of the rest of the computing world was using it? If not, you're probably not passionate enough about the OS to "get" BeOS fans.
Check out bebits.com for BeOS native software, including the Firefox browser you probably used to post that message.
If it survives (and here's hoping), it'll be because its specialised and does what it does very well. Video editing on a 300MHz PC running BeOS 5 Pro was a lot less painful than you might think. I hope they keep that up.
There seems to be some confusion here as to what BeOS actually is - it's not just a hobby OS or a Linux clone, but a full-featured media-centric OS designed for music and video production. It's fundamentally different to Linux and other Unixes: it's designed to be low latency rather than to have a network-aware window system and multi-user capabilities. It was designed from the start to be a desktop OS - when everyone else was going multi-user, Be stayed single user and concentrated on its multimedia specialisation. It's worth a look, and I hope they do a demo live CD the same way that Be did for R4.5. Otherwise most of you non-pirates are never going to see how cool it is.
Yes, they have it. They bought the BeOS code when Be went under. And yes, I have a pretty good idea which P2P networks will have the Zeta ISO. I'll pay for mine, thanks.
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Uh oh, I've heard this before... Wikipedia article about David Hahn, the 'Radioactive Boy Scout'
...who also display ads.
Educating people about their systems isn't a bad thing, but ought this really be front page news on Slashdot?
Yeesh. This is what happens when you force religion on children.
BeOS was designed for the desktop from the start.
Linux and BeOS were designed for two different things. Developers who get use out of one over the other should support and develop for whichever works for them.
"I want an OS that does what I want."
Sounds good to me. Here's hoping YellowTAB releases a live CD demo of Zeta, like Be did with BeOS R4.5.
And when a new version of Windows comes out, I pay little attention to it. It's all down to personal taste.
Because we all know an OS lives and dies by its GUI glitz, right?
That's the reality though, isn't it? Your earlier comment says to me that you want:
* a free OS
* a widely supported OS
Zeta is neither. You aren't who they're aiming themselves at.
And I can see how you got the impression, but there was still no need to jump to conclusions.
"i live in a country where ppl never pay for software"
Oh, that makes it alright then.
yT bought the BeOS source code when Be went under.
Although media types are more likely to be using Mac OS X and Windows now, rather than any of the OSs you list (I was big on AmigaOS way back when, as it happens), it's great that we have options and that I could consider a return to the OS I used for video editing, if I wanted.
Any software product needs to be refined and expanded to meets its user's changing needs. Here's hoping yT is able to do that with Zeta.
It's based on BSD, but BSD is only a small part of it as a whole. Most Mac OS X users will have no idea they're running a BSD, or even a NEXT-derived OS.
All you're saying to me is that you're not part of YellowTAB's target market. No worries; hopefully enough people are that they'll make some money from Zeta.
And I'm not currently a BeOS user. I use FreeBSD and Mac OS X.
Firefox used to suck on BeOS; it was sluggish and crashed if you looked at it the wrong way. Obviously yT has fixed it.
It's more like anything that challenges Windows but isn't Linux or Mac OS X. If you're a BSD fan, you'll find the same thing.
Zeta is aimed more at people who don't have the time, skill or inclination to customise their own open source OS, but who do have the money to pay for something that just works straight out of the box.
"I'll just hack together a distro"
And for media pros without the skill, time or inclination to do that, here's BeOS! Ready-made for what they need. Understand?
And maybe BeOS was offering this stuff before the others were; did you think of that? Maybe there's an established user base of people who want to keep using the OS they're used to, rather than switch to one you'd like to see them using. Maybe they don't like your choice of OS, and maybe they wouldn't like the one you'd put together for them.
Maybe Be and YellowTAB "get it" in the exact way that you don't.
It's a single-user, low-latency media workstation OS for audio/video production. It does pretty much everything you can do with media on Mac OS X or Windows XP - but it does it faster and in a way that BeOS fans will be used to and comfortable with.
It's actually easier than that - if you give them some money, they'll mail it out to you on a physical disc. They even throw in a manual so morons who can't even get the OS' name right ("Zata"?) are at least in with a chance of understanding what it's about.
I can understand you wanting to pirate from big faceless corporations, but geez: YellowTAB is a really small and specialised company. If you like their stuff, buy it.
And doesn't it suck to live on a planet with chefs putting effort into new and exciting fish recipes when they could be cooking you a tastier hot dog?
An "elite group of fans"? Nah: just a userbase making use of a product that does what they want it to. Would you continue to use and support your OS if only 5% of the rest of the computing world was using it? If not, you're probably not passionate enough about the OS to "get" BeOS fans.
It's a 1.0 release; it doesn't surprise me that there are still niggles to be ironed out. It'll get fixed.
Check out bebits.com for BeOS native software, including the Firefox browser you probably used to post that message.
If it survives (and here's hoping), it'll be because its specialised and does what it does very well. Video editing on a 300MHz PC running BeOS 5 Pro was a lot less painful than you might think. I hope they keep that up.
There seems to be some confusion here as to what BeOS actually is - it's not just a hobby OS or a Linux clone, but a full-featured media-centric OS designed for music and video production. It's fundamentally different to Linux and other Unixes: it's designed to be low latency rather than to have a network-aware window system and multi-user capabilities. It was designed from the start to be a desktop OS - when everyone else was going multi-user, Be stayed single user and concentrated on its multimedia specialisation. It's worth a look, and I hope they do a demo live CD the same way that Be did for R4.5. Otherwise most of you non-pirates are never going to see how cool it is.
Yes, they have it. They bought the BeOS code when Be went under. And yes, I have a pretty good idea which P2P networks will have the Zeta ISO. I'll pay for mine, thanks.