First of all, I'm not a Linux user. Thanks for making that assumption though. In the words of a friend of mine, "Linux is a whores OS. Everybody has had their dick in it". It's still a better alternative than most of what's out there. Second of all, I HAVE contributed to the OS that I do use. In fact, I've been a microsoft developer in the past. I know first hand how that whole process works and the MS failures are no surprise to me at all. As far as windows NT9 or anything hurting linux, how exactly is that going to happen? What is going to get fucked up exactly? Do you think linux fears microsoft? Why should it? There is absolutely nothing that microsoft can do to make linux go away. It's free, stable, and open. People will continue to use it for that reason. I personally don't use it, but would if I needed too. I'm much older than you think, much more experienced than you think, and much more talented than you think. This is why I don't use microsoft products. I have a brain and I know how to use it. My brain tells me I can do better. You should work on your brain. Someday you'll grow out of your professional wrestling approach to OS advocacy debates.:) D-Day for me was a while ago. D-Day for you will happen when you get some clue. If you are happy with windows, run with it. Lots of people are happy with AOL. Good for them. Tons of people are happy with automatic transmissions in their cars. Good for them as well. Some of us like to know how our computers actually work. That's what rocks my world upside down.:) Good luck to you.
I think you are trying too hard to find a thread of common sense from the company with the "best and the brightest". Based on their track record, this incident is in line with the long list of other stupid things they've done and gotten caught doing. If they were in fact trying to 'bait the community' it would get leaked like everything else and we'd have a healthy laugh about that. The key issue here is that open source works. It works well enough that they are scared. It remains to be determined if it will become a major profit maker for everyone trying to accomplish that, but it works for making great, stable operating systems that trounce expensive closed source alternatives. I for one could care about world domination. I think the idea is lame. Linux and FreeBSD and the other open source projects will continue on whether they dominate the world or not. That war has already been won. Just like the Internet would have continued on with or without the corporate involvement. Bashing microsoft has been very easy for the longest time. As long as they continue to do stupid things and get caught doing them, I'll be here to laugh at them. Since my operating system doesn't depend on a huge userbase to keep going, I don't have to care. 20 years from now if microsoft isn't around anymore, I'll still be using my OS for that reason. So you all continue to debate what they are doing, how they are doing it. I'll just laugh when they fuck up and get that superior feeling I get when I realize it doesn't effect me at all. I'm not fighting for anything. I already won.
Doesn't matter what is new and what isn't. Doesn't matter what drivers are what. Doesn't matter how many years (whoopty 5!) someone had to make something work right. This story is about microsoft doing something stupid AGAIN and getting caught. That's the only conclusion you can jump too.
This is mearly one of many incidents where MS fucked up and got caught and subsequently laughed at by the industry. It happens daily. This is what the story is about. Whether or not NT4 is faster than NT5 or NT6 at mangling a database doesn't matter. They messed up again, it got exposed, we all go "HAHAHA" and move on.
I could care about the results of the this test, their test, any test involving microsoft products. I don't use them. That isn't the point. The point to this story is that they tried to cover up the results of a test which showed a problem with one of their products. You can either take the side that all is fair in business, or take the side that they were stupid, and we got to find out. Whine all you want about microsoft bashing. They deserve it.
I need more of a challenge. Dissing them for this would be like shooting fish in a barrel with a rocket launcher. I feel for all you MS supporters trying desparately to defend this. Good luck. Is it just me or has microsoft been doing a steady one major embarassing fuckup a day?
I'm sure they are going to allow the parent to sensor the games. I know I'd want this functionality. I don't see them automatically shooting the game maker in the foot by making a game they design for the system not function as the programmer intended. I have to respect the business decision to get into this market. From what I've heard, the microsoft games are pretty good. I personally prefer games where I can shoot things and make body parts fly in every direction, but that's me.:) I consider that games are not mission critical, and don't require uptime, or reliability. This is the perfect market for microsoft.
I lead the charge at a very large ISP I used to work for and helped replace 32 windows PDC's with freebsd boxes running samba. We wiped NT off of them and installed freebsd. I was pleased with the 40 percent increase in performance over NT, and not getting woken up at 3am in the morning anymore to reboot a locked up NT machine. I find it amusing that some outside developers do microsofts protocol with more speed.
As far as netapps, I had an instructor during my netapp admin training let me know that the kernel they use is based on sunos. Netapps are wonderful things. They helped us achieve 99.9 percent uptime by writing scripts that automatically changed routes and remounted customer data within seconds if a machine died for any reason. They are damn expensive though.
as a developer for an environment using network appliances, backup was accomplished with a 52 line perl script and a breece hill q 2.15. The same script was ported to a less expensive setup using a dlt4000 drive in about 5 minutes.
I've had so many Maxtor drives die. I can look to my right and see two of them on a workbench that will be used for target practice. The lure to purchase them was a common one I think 'lowest price on pricewatch.com'. In a way I'm glad that they aren't dragging BSD's good name down with their crappy products. Using Win2k is more in line with their karma.
So I guess the internet is 'real' now that it's been invaded by microsoft. Personally, I liked the internet a lot more before windows 3.0. It's become a corporate cesspool instead of the collection of intelligent, caring people it was. It would have been fine without the addition of big business.
Even though learning how to drive a car requires some learning and understanding of some advanced concepts, most people learn how. If they didn't, I'd be dodging a whole lot of people on bicycles while enjoying the speed advantage of my car. I'm sick of the excuses for being lazy.
If 'I' were microsoft, considering the way that microsoft has proven they do business in the past, I'd consider slashdot one of the frontlines in the war on Linux. I'd have paid monkeys that did nothing but watch the
forums here all day, and make at least one post for every anti-microsoft post to give the illusion of an enraged, clueful, competent userbase. Sometimes I see posts and I KNOW that's what must be going on because of
the way they are written, and the total lack of actual technical information supporting the wild claims made by the microsoft sponsored posters. I then see these posts shot down and exposed for what they are by the
mostly clueful and highly technical posters that assemble here. I wonder how much the job pays? I'm not sure if they have, but I doubt microsoft will ever mention slashdot anywhere, anytime, ever. They'd be too afraid
that the people that bought into their religion would come here to investigate, and adopt the religion here. Anybody that would buy into the microsoft religion would be the type of person that would jump ship if they read
enough of what's on slashdot. Lets hope they mess up and mention slashdot a few times. I wonder how many of the microsoft sponsored posters got curious and started running some free unix at home? Food for
thought.
Most microsoft oriented people would stay away from a site like slashdot. The sheer number of 'linux sucks use microsoft' replies back my theory. Especially when you look at how the posts are done. All very hard to defend, all inflamatory, all lacking any technical information, all FUD.
If 'I' were microsoft, considering the way that microsoft has proved they do business in the past, I'd consider slashdot one of the frontlines in the war on Linux. I'd have paid monkeys that did nothing but watch the forums here all day, and make at least one post for every anti-microsoft post to give the illusion of an enraged, clueful, competent userbase. Sometimes I see posts and I KNOW that's what must be going on because of
the way they are written, and the total lack of actual technical information supporting the wild claims made by the microsoft sponsored posters. I then see these posts shot down and exposed for what they are by the mostly clueful and highly technical posters that assemble here. I wonder how much the job pays? I'm not sure if they have, but I doubt microsoft will ever mention slashdot anywhere, anytime, ever. They'd be too afraid that the people that bought into their religion would come here to investigate, and adopt the religion here. Anybody that would buy into the microsoft religion would be the type of person that would jump ship if they read enough of what's on slashdot. Lets hope they mess up and mention slashdot a few times. I wonder how many of the microsoft sponsored posters got curious and started running some free unix at home. Food for thought.
If 'I' were microsoft, considering the way that microsoft has proved they do business in the past, I'd consider slashdot one of the frontlines in the war on Linux. I'd have paid monkeys that did nothing but watch the forums here all day, and make at least one post for every anti-microsoft post to give the illusion of an enraged, clueful, competent userbase. Sometimes I see posts and I KNOW that's what must be going on because of the way they are written, and the total lack of actual technical information supporting the wild claims made by the microsoft sponsored posters. I then see these posts shot down and exposed for what they are by the mostly clueful and highly technical posters that assemble here. I wonder how much the job pays? I'm not sure if they have, but I doubt microsoft will ever mention slashdot anywhere, anytime, ever. They'd be too afraid that the people that bought into their religion would come here to investigate, and adopt the religion here. Anybody that would buy into the microsoft religion would be the type of person that would jump ship if they read enough of what's on slashdot. Lets hope they mess up and mention slashdot a few times. I wonder how many of the microsoft sponsored posters got curious and started running some free unix at home. Food for thought.
Just to be clear I'm not trolling, just interested. I am not a person of religion. It would seem to me that this discovery along with the recent evidence backing evolution would shake the religious foundations of many. Saying the devil did it to confuse us just isn't cutting it anymore. Any thoughts?
I think it would rule if there was something to demoronize microsoft formatted webpages on the fly. Mebbe some sort of localhost proxy type deal or plugin for netscape. I'm so sick of the damn question marks.
I don't see why they just don't agree on a sound quality standard that is copyrightable(is this a word?). Lets say that anything below 112 is considered a 'sample quality' recording. I know I'd purchase a cd or 'cd quality file' eventually for the higher sound quality. In the meantime I'd listen to my slightly scratchy version. I think most people would like to be legal in their music listening but are sick of the bullshit tyranny.
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First of all, I'm not a Linux user. Thanks for making that assumption though. In the words of a friend of mine, "Linux is a whores OS. Everybody has had their dick in it". It's still a better alternative than most of what's out there. Second of all, I HAVE contributed to the OS that I do use. In fact, I've been a microsoft developer in the past. I know first hand how that whole process works and the MS failures are no surprise to me at all. As far as windows NT9 or anything hurting linux, how exactly is that going to happen? What is going to get fucked up exactly? Do you think linux fears microsoft? Why should it? There is absolutely nothing that microsoft can do to make linux go away. It's free, stable, and open. People will continue to use it for that reason. I personally don't use it, but would if I needed too. I'm much older than you think, much more experienced than you think, and much more talented than you think. This is why I don't use microsoft products. I have a brain and I know how to use it. My brain tells me I can do better. You should work on your brain. Someday you'll grow out of your professional wrestling approach to OS advocacy debates. :) D-Day for me was a while ago. D-Day for you will happen when you get some clue. If you are happy with windows, run with it. Lots of people are happy with AOL. Good for them. Tons of people are happy with automatic transmissions in their cars. Good for them as well. Some of us like to know how our computers actually work. That's what rocks my world upside down. :) Good luck to you.
If this is who I think it is, of course I'll marry you. Someday. :)
I think you are trying too hard to find a thread of common sense from the company with the "best and the brightest". Based on their track record, this incident is in line with the long list of other stupid things they've done and gotten caught doing. If they were in fact trying to 'bait the community' it would get leaked like everything else and we'd have a healthy laugh about that. The key issue here is that open source works. It works well enough that they are scared. It remains to be determined if it will become a major profit maker for everyone trying to accomplish that, but it works for making great, stable operating systems that trounce expensive closed source alternatives. I for one could care about world domination. I think the idea is lame. Linux and FreeBSD and the other open source projects will continue on whether they dominate the world or not. That war has already been won. Just like the Internet would have continued on with or without the corporate involvement. Bashing microsoft has been very easy for the longest time. As long as they continue to do stupid things and get caught doing them, I'll be here to laugh at them. Since my operating system doesn't depend on a huge userbase to keep going, I don't have to care. 20 years from now if microsoft isn't around anymore, I'll still be using my OS for that reason. So you all continue to debate what they are doing, how they are doing it. I'll just laugh when they fuck up and get that superior feeling I get when I realize it doesn't effect me at all. I'm not fighting for anything. I already won.
Doesn't matter what is new and what isn't. Doesn't matter what drivers are what. Doesn't matter how many years (whoopty 5!) someone had to make something work right. This story is about microsoft doing something stupid AGAIN and getting caught. That's the only conclusion you can jump too.
This is mearly one of many incidents where MS fucked up and got caught and subsequently laughed at by the industry. It happens daily. This is what the story is about. Whether or not NT4 is faster than NT5 or NT6 at mangling a database doesn't matter. They messed up again, it got exposed, we all go "HAHAHA" and move on.
I could care about the results of the this test, their test, any test involving microsoft products. I don't use them. That isn't the point. The point to this story is that they tried to cover up the results of a test which showed a problem with one of their products. You can either take the side that all is fair in business, or take the side that they were stupid, and we got to find out. Whine all you want about microsoft bashing. They deserve it.
I need more of a challenge. Dissing them for this would be like shooting fish in a barrel with a rocket launcher. I feel for all you MS supporters trying desparately to defend this. Good luck. Is it just me or has microsoft been doing a steady one major embarassing fuckup a day?
I'm sure they are going to allow the parent to sensor the games. I know I'd want this functionality. I don't see them automatically shooting the game maker in the foot by making a game they design for the system not function as the programmer intended. I have to respect the business decision to get into this market. From what I've heard, the microsoft games are pretty good. I personally prefer games where I can shoot things and make body parts fly in every direction, but that's me. :) I consider that games are not mission critical, and don't require uptime, or reliability. This is the perfect market for microsoft.
go install a service pack or something
I lead the charge at a very large ISP I used to work for and helped replace 32 windows PDC's with freebsd boxes running samba. We wiped NT off of them and installed freebsd. I was pleased with the 40 percent increase in performance over NT, and not getting woken up at 3am in the morning anymore to reboot a locked up NT machine. I find it amusing that some outside developers do microsofts protocol with more speed. As far as netapps, I had an instructor during my netapp admin training let me know that the kernel they use is based on sunos. Netapps are wonderful things. They helped us achieve 99.9 percent uptime by writing scripts that automatically changed routes and remounted customer data within seconds if a machine died for any reason. They are damn expensive though.
as a developer for an environment using network appliances, backup was accomplished with a 52 line perl script and a breece hill q 2.15. The same script was ported to a less expensive setup using a dlt4000 drive in about 5 minutes.
I've had so many Maxtor drives die. I can look to my right and see two of them on a workbench that will be used for target practice. The lure to purchase them was a common one I think 'lowest price on pricewatch.com'. In a way I'm glad that they aren't dragging BSD's good name down with their crappy products. Using Win2k is more in line with their karma.
So I guess the internet is 'real' now that it's been invaded by microsoft. Personally, I liked the internet a lot more before windows 3.0. It's become a corporate cesspool instead of the collection of intelligent, caring people it was. It would have been fine without the addition of big business.
Even though learning how to drive a car requires some learning and understanding of some advanced concepts, most people learn how. If they didn't, I'd be dodging a whole lot of people on bicycles while enjoying the speed advantage of my car. I'm sick of the excuses for being lazy.
The paperclip isn't really talking to you. It's a hallucination. I don't think computers are for you. Try WebTV.
If 'I' were microsoft, considering the way that microsoft has proven they do business in the past, I'd consider slashdot one of the frontlines in the war on Linux. I'd have paid monkeys that did nothing but watch the forums here all day, and make at least one post for every anti-microsoft post to give the illusion of an enraged, clueful, competent userbase. Sometimes I see posts and I KNOW that's what must be going on because of the way they are written, and the total lack of actual technical information supporting the wild claims made by the microsoft sponsored posters. I then see these posts shot down and exposed for what they are by the mostly clueful and highly technical posters that assemble here. I wonder how much the job pays? I'm not sure if they have, but I doubt microsoft will ever mention slashdot anywhere, anytime, ever. They'd be too afraid that the people that bought into their religion would come here to investigate, and adopt the religion here. Anybody that would buy into the microsoft religion would be the type of person that would jump ship if they read enough of what's on slashdot. Lets hope they mess up and mention slashdot a few times. I wonder how many of the microsoft sponsored posters got curious and started running some free unix at home? Food for thought.
Most microsoft oriented people would stay away from a site like slashdot. The sheer number of 'linux sucks use microsoft' replies back my theory. Especially when you look at how the posts are done. All very hard to defend, all inflamatory, all lacking any technical information, all FUD.
If 'I' were microsoft, considering the way that microsoft has proved they do business in the past, I'd consider slashdot one of the frontlines in the war on Linux. I'd have paid monkeys that did nothing but watch the forums here all day, and make at least one post for every anti-microsoft post to give the illusion of an enraged, clueful, competent userbase. Sometimes I see posts and I KNOW that's what must be going on because of the way they are written, and the total lack of actual technical information supporting the wild claims made by the microsoft sponsored posters. I then see these posts shot down and exposed for what they are by the mostly clueful and highly technical posters that assemble here. I wonder how much the job pays? I'm not sure if they have, but I doubt microsoft will ever mention slashdot anywhere, anytime, ever. They'd be too afraid that the people that bought into their religion would come here to investigate, and adopt the religion here. Anybody that would buy into the microsoft religion would be the type of person that would jump ship if they read enough of what's on slashdot. Lets hope they mess up and mention slashdot a few times. I wonder how many of the microsoft sponsored posters got curious and started running some free unix at home. Food for thought.
I suggest a life. getting one that is.
If 'I' were microsoft, considering the way that microsoft has proved they do business in the past, I'd consider slashdot one of the frontlines in the war on Linux. I'd have paid monkeys that did nothing but watch the forums here all day, and make at least one post for every anti-microsoft post to give the illusion of an enraged, clueful, competent userbase. Sometimes I see posts and I KNOW that's what must be going on because of the way they are written, and the total lack of actual technical information supporting the wild claims made by the microsoft sponsored posters. I then see these posts shot down and exposed for what they are by the mostly clueful and highly technical posters that assemble here. I wonder how much the job pays? I'm not sure if they have, but I doubt microsoft will ever mention slashdot anywhere, anytime, ever. They'd be too afraid that the people that bought into their religion would come here to investigate, and adopt the religion here. Anybody that would buy into the microsoft religion would be the type of person that would jump ship if they read enough of what's on slashdot. Lets hope they mess up and mention slashdot a few times. I wonder how many of the microsoft sponsored posters got curious and started running some free unix at home. Food for thought.
These are 'nascar' bacteria
Just to be clear I'm not trolling, just interested. I am not a person of religion. It would seem to me that this discovery along with the recent evidence backing evolution would shake the religious foundations of many. Saying the devil did it to confuse us just isn't cutting it anymore. Any thoughts?
I don't RUN windows. Nobody really uses windows. windows uses them.
I think it would rule if there was something to demoronize microsoft formatted webpages on the fly. Mebbe some sort of localhost proxy type deal or plugin for netscape. I'm so sick of the damn question marks.
I don't see why they just don't agree on a sound quality standard that is copyrightable(is this a word?). Lets say that anything below 112 is considered a 'sample quality' recording. I know I'd purchase a cd or 'cd quality file' eventually for the higher sound quality. In the meantime I'd listen to my slightly scratchy version. I think most people would like to be legal in their music listening but are sick of the bullshit tyranny.