Seems I'm the one marked +5 insightful TWICE while you are treading water. I guess the community realizes I know what I'm talking about and you are still trying to grasp what the topic of the thread.
Nope. There is of course. I said it is missing tools. I listed one such tool (mod_dav_svn) as an example which is used by multiple resources and is pined over by Git developers. I listed how it failed to integrate with Trac and IDE's. Git still is missing alot of tools and resources that make it useful to developers and more able to compete in a development environment.
It can be better as a version control system but without the support tools in place, it's just another neat toy.
Yes that and this example uses web_dav rather than dav_svn. Alot of Git users would prefer to use something similar to dav_svn rather than web_dav but as I stated, the tools just aren't there so full you have to get by with lesser substitutes. Eventually I suspect someone wil make a mod_dav_git module for Apache but there isn't one now and there isn't Eclipse support and a whole bunch of other things that make developers lives easier rather than harder.
The tools need to be in place to make development easier before an approach should be adopted and promoted. It may be a better approach but without the tools to make that approach as easy and accessible as the current approach, why should adoption take place? Why should development slow down in the meantime?
You are talking a repo browser vs an Apache module. Git does not have anything like mod_dav_svn yet so there is not full integration with Apache yet. Many people in the Git community want something like mod_dav_svn but there isn't anything like it yet.
As I stated, the tools aren't there yet. Good version control but ther support tools have to be built yet.
Git does not have integration with Apache and other tools that developers still find useful. TRAC integrates with Subversion as do several other tool. You also cannot coordinate Git with your IDE. Don't get me wrong, it is definitely where version control will be in the future but the tools to support it have to get there first before widespread adoption should be advised for day to day use.
Create separate SVN deploys as separate environments. Deploy them as subdomains. If they require database access, create a test database they can share or separate test databases for each environment. Make sure the database class in the source is written as DB.bkp so when you deploy it, your deployed DB class won't be overwritten by changes to the source DB class.
No, read the thread. LP's aren't apps (per se) so they don't use the SDK. But they act like apps and can have embedded code that can interact with the system. Apple doesn't vet apps; they review them. But as LP's don't use the SDK and can be custom built, they can do things outside of what Apple had intended apps to do; they can interact with the browser, other apps and potentially even the information available on your phone.
They need to build a custom app or add-on to the SDK that allows people to build LP's within what they intend an LP to be and limit it's functionality. As is, they are hand built so functionality is not limited. And this brings us back to my original point: since they don't use the SDK, Apple cannot vet the code in each and every one of these. As is, they are in what they consider 'testing' mode with LP's while they develop how they should work.
Even if they could screen some things, the fear is that 1% could get through and even if you sue that 1 person, you now have 1000 people suing your company. What you may get out of that one person is nothing compared to what you will have to settle for or spend on court fees and lawyer costs with those 1000 other people suing you for not having some sort of disclaimer or letting that on your store in the first place.
Regardless of whether this was Microsoft, Amazon or Apple, any company would be hard pressed to distribure applications built like this without first having a precompiled app for building them and allowing others a simplified way to vet the application.
It is quite likely that if they let people design their own LP's then Apple has to vet them for programming issues like cross site scripting especially if it allows HTML, Javascript or other languages to be active within them. And they just don't have the time to go over everyones code.
In which case, they need to come up with a standardized couple of formats in which people can plug in artwork, videos and other data to create their own LP.
Nice try retard but thats what I have stated all along if you follow the entire thread. You can read, correct? I doubt it because the fact that you have failed to read the thread thus far has either shown a lack of literacy or a profound sense of stupidity.
I accept that challenge. I will pit your competent user on a gumstick running linux vs my mom on a beowulf cluster of mac minis. Let the competition commence.
And you fail to understand the learning curve required in understanding a new platform. Clicking an icon may require one mouse click rather than two, pulling up option may require the middle mouse button or you may not even have a middle mouse button. You are using a one platform mentallity which explains your lack of understanding of how learning more that one platforms adds to your knowledge of computer systems and hence computer literacy.
So you agree then... you are retarded. If you think that learning additional platforms does NOT expand computer literacy then you obviously think that someone who knows no platform has the same computer literacy of someone who knows one platform. In effect, a luddite is the same computer proficiency of someone who understands their Windows system at a basic level.
To which I again pose the question, are you seriously that retarded?
So lets assume then that I use them both then. Lets then add a Linux box too. And a Sun workstation. You are saying that day to day use including configuring of these machines which an end user does a minimum amount of, adds ZERO to computer literacy? So if I were to have a user who understood all those platforms and how to do basic configuration on all of them and use them all, you are saying they are no more computer literate than an average Windows user???
I read Macrumors daily. And you might have noticed that the SATA were temporarily disabled and have been reenabled before snow leopard even went live; you are grasping at straws with an old issue that never was live. Also Bad batteries have plagued every manufacturer; show me one laptop maker that has not had a bad battery.
You are whining just to whine. Don't like your iPhone, sell it. I know tons of people who will buy it from you. Otherwise deal with the fact that nothing is perfect and climb on down from your ivory tower.
So you are saying that if I use a Sun station, a Linux box, a Windows box and a Mac box on a regular basis, none of this makes me more computer literate than just using one windows box? Are you seriously that retarded?
Your logic makes no sense. Even if they do need a Windows machine, learning about a second machine will still make you more computer literate than someone who just knows one platform. Learning about Mac and Windows makes one proficient on two platforms. By your logic, they might need a Linux box too because Windows doesn't do everything either. This forces them to learn about Linux as well. Now they know three platforms.
The point was that owning two platform increases computer literacy because they have to learn about multiple systems and not only do people who are computer literate buy multiple systems but people who own multiple system become more computer literate by default as a result of having to learn multiple platforms.
Thought there might be a smart ass remark like that but regardless, in this scenario, having to learn two different operating systems, the setups, configurations, etc, makes you more computer literate by default. The more you learn about different systems, you naturally become more computer literate. You can make snarky comments but you can't deny the facts. If I used merely a Windows machine compared to someone who used a windows machine and a mac vs someone who used Windows, mac and linux, it is pretty obvious that one leads to the other; more computer literate people generally use multiple systems and multiple systems lead to increased computer literacy.
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Exactly. That was my first question too. How do they change lanes also? A Lane change with 20 cars would be IMPOSSIBLE!
HP has thin clients built specifically for this purpose. They run Debian 4.1.1 with KDE 3 and can be integrated with touch screen.
So what do Microsoft employees do with the other hand? Oh duh... flame on Slashdot of course.
Seems I'm the one marked +5 insightful TWICE while you are treading water. I guess the community realizes I know what I'm talking about and you are still trying to grasp what the topic of the thread.
Nope. There is of course. I said it is missing tools. I listed one such tool (mod_dav_svn) as an example which is used by multiple resources and is pined over by Git developers. I listed how it failed to integrate with Trac and IDE's. Git still is missing alot of tools and resources that make it useful to developers and more able to compete in a development environment.
It can be better as a version control system but without the support tools in place, it's just another neat toy.
Yes that and this example uses web_dav rather than dav_svn. Alot of Git users would prefer to use something similar to dav_svn rather than web_dav but as I stated, the tools just aren't there so full you have to get by with lesser substitutes. Eventually I suspect someone wil make a mod_dav_git module for Apache but there isn't one now and there isn't Eclipse support and a whole bunch of other things that make developers lives easier rather than harder.
The tools need to be in place to make development easier before an approach should be adopted and promoted. It may be a better approach but without the tools to make that approach as easy and accessible as the current approach, why should adoption take place? Why should development slow down in the meantime?
You are talking a repo browser vs an Apache module. Git does not have anything like mod_dav_svn yet so there is not full integration with Apache yet. Many people in the Git community want something like mod_dav_svn but there isn't anything like it yet.
As I stated, the tools aren't there yet. Good version control but ther support tools have to be built yet.
Git does not have integration with Apache and other tools that developers still find useful. TRAC integrates with Subversion as do several other tool. You also cannot coordinate Git with your IDE. Don't get me wrong, it is definitely where version control will be in the future but the tools to support it have to get there first before widespread adoption should be advised for day to day use.
Create separate SVN deploys as separate environments. Deploy them as subdomains. If they require database access, create a test database they can share or separate test databases for each environment. Make sure the database class in the source is written as DB.bkp so when you deploy it, your deployed DB class won't be overwritten by changes to the source DB class.
No, read the thread. LP's aren't apps (per se) so they don't use the SDK. But they act like apps and can have embedded code that can interact with the system. Apple doesn't vet apps; they review them. But as LP's don't use the SDK and can be custom built, they can do things outside of what Apple had intended apps to do; they can interact with the browser, other apps and potentially even the information available on your phone.
They need to build a custom app or add-on to the SDK that allows people to build LP's within what they intend an LP to be and limit it's functionality. As is, they are hand built so functionality is not limited. And this brings us back to my original point: since they don't use the SDK, Apple cannot vet the code in each and every one of these. As is, they are in what they consider 'testing' mode with LP's while they develop how they should work.
EHHHHHH! An application review is NOT a code review. Thanks for playing.
Even if they could screen some things, the fear is that 1% could get through and even if you sue that 1 person, you now have 1000 people suing your company. What you may get out of that one person is nothing compared to what you will have to settle for or spend on court fees and lawyer costs with those 1000 other people suing you for not having some sort of disclaimer or letting that on your store in the first place.
Regardless of whether this was Microsoft, Amazon or Apple, any company would be hard pressed to distribure applications built like this without first having a precompiled app for building them and allowing others a simplified way to vet the application.
It is quite likely that if they let people design their own LP's then Apple has to vet them for programming issues like cross site scripting especially if it allows HTML, Javascript or other languages to be active within them. And they just don't have the time to go over everyones code.
In which case, they need to come up with a standardized couple of formats in which people can plug in artwork, videos and other data to create their own LP.
Oh so then a luddite is as computer literate as a basic windows user then? Thats your logic? How retarded are you?
Good comeback tard bucket. So what did I say then?
Nice try retard but thats what I have stated all along if you follow the entire thread. You can read, correct? I doubt it because the fact that you have failed to read the thread thus far has either shown a lack of literacy or a profound sense of stupidity.
I accept that challenge. I will pit your competent user on a gumstick running linux vs my mom on a beowulf cluster of mac minis. Let the competition commence.
And you fail to understand the learning curve required in understanding a new platform. Clicking an icon may require one mouse click rather than two, pulling up option may require the middle mouse button or you may not even have a middle mouse button. You are using a one platform mentallity which explains your lack of understanding of how learning more that one platforms adds to your knowledge of computer systems and hence computer literacy.
Now slap yourself and go DUH!
So you agree then... you are retarded. If you think that learning additional platforms does NOT expand computer literacy then you obviously think that someone who knows no platform has the same computer literacy of someone who knows one platform. In effect, a luddite is the same computer proficiency of someone who understands their Windows system at a basic level.
To which I again pose the question, are you seriously that retarded?
So lets assume then that I use them both then. Lets then add a Linux box too. And a Sun workstation. You are saying that day to day use including configuring of these machines which an end user does a minimum amount of, adds ZERO to computer literacy? So if I were to have a user who understood all those platforms and how to do basic configuration on all of them and use them all, you are saying they are no more computer literate than an average Windows user???
Are you SERIOUSLY that retarded?
I read Macrumors daily. And you might have noticed that the SATA were temporarily disabled and have been reenabled before snow leopard even went live; you are grasping at straws with an old issue that never was live. Also Bad batteries have plagued every manufacturer; show me one laptop maker that has not had a bad battery.
You are whining just to whine. Don't like your iPhone, sell it. I know tons of people who will buy it from you. Otherwise deal with the fact that nothing is perfect and climb on down from your ivory tower.
So you are saying that if I use a Sun station, a Linux box, a Windows box and a Mac box on a regular basis, none of this makes me more computer literate than just using one windows box? Are you seriously that retarded?
Your logic makes no sense. Even if they do need a Windows machine, learning about a second machine will still make you more computer literate than someone who just knows one platform. Learning about Mac and Windows makes one proficient on two platforms. By your logic, they might need a Linux box too because Windows doesn't do everything either. This forces them to learn about Linux as well. Now they know three platforms.
The point was that owning two platform increases computer literacy because they have to learn about multiple systems and not only do people who are computer literate buy multiple systems but people who own multiple system become more computer literate by default as a result of having to learn multiple platforms.
Thought there might be a smart ass remark like that but regardless, in this scenario, having to learn two different operating systems, the setups, configurations, etc, makes you more computer literate by default. The more you learn about different systems, you naturally become more computer literate. You can make snarky comments but you can't deny the facts. If I used merely a Windows machine compared to someone who used a windows machine and a mac vs someone who used Windows, mac and linux, it is pretty obvious that one leads to the other; more computer literate people generally use multiple systems and multiple systems lead to increased computer literacy.