I'm sorry but I have to call BS on this. My brother previously worked with the Pentagon and my other brother codes in the Army. I myself was with military intelligence (make the jokes while you can) and the civilians NEVER were in the line of fire. And they were the ones who code for the military. No one codes in the line of duty; you may have to edit a configuration, change the settings, setup a terminal, etc... but as any coder will tell you, that's NOT coding. Changing a config file is not coding. System administration is NOT coding.
Maintaining a deploy of an app built on an MVC framework with a replication database backend... now thats coding.
LOL. Yes, Microsofts track record on security has definitely been without reproach so far. And an upgrade will undoubtedly fix all problems. Honestly, are you that naive?
I'VE COME TO KICK ASS AND EAT JUJUBEES... and I have a WHOLE pocket full of JuJuBees! And I'm gonna force feed you the BLACK ONES! That's just how badass I am, human scum!
Not really. Objective-C which is getting a resurgence thanks to the iPhone and Mac popularity takes alot from Smalltalk. Smalltalk is also still used in financial institutions and software and there is a resurgence in smalltalk development recently. It may be old school but a 'mature' language never truly dies.
Well researched? it's a N008 in the world of languages! C,C++,Java,Perl,PHP,Python are well researched but Ruby is still getting it's sea legs. It's a good language bt by no means try to imply that it is mature for it is not.
And your point? As I stated earlier, PHP was NEVER meant to be used for APP DEV... only web dev. That was the languages main focus and as a result it does it well when it sticks to that one focus. And it scales and handles page loads like lightning! But app dev? Not in your right mind. Sure it CAN be done.. but you can build Twitter on Ruby as well; it just shouldn't be done because the language is a bad choice due to it's inherent weaknesses: PHP for app dev, Ruby for web dev.
There is no swiss army knife language and PHP accepts that right off the bat. If you think Ruby is that swiss army language, you are only deluding yourself.
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By that standard PHP or python doesn't have threads.
Never said PHP had threads. Hell even Twitter devs says Ruby doesn't have 'true' threads and that they are fake threads. As for LinkedIn and Hulu, watch how fast they dump Ruby; Hulu already is having problems. Seeing that scaling issue yet? PHP is used by PeopleSoft and Financial corporations who need scalability and stability. People who use Ruby apparently don't care about either.
And you seem to flip flop between saying 'Ruby is great on the backend' one second and the dnying it the next. Make up your mind. This is our entire argument about it's scalability. PHP IS the backend AND the frontend for all the sites that use it.
Ruby is just wrapping paper for another language like Scala that can actually scale.:)
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Listen to your own Ruby rhetoric. Ruby itself doesn't have threading; it's FAUX threads. And PHP was never meant to be used for app development; it's meant for web development. That would be like trying to build an OS in Visual Basic (now watch some idiot try).
Yeah I understand what they are doing with Scala. And They DID try to do alot of it with Ruby over the years and Ruby people touted it over and over while we said it doesn't scale over and over and pointed out how they were removing more and more Ruby on the backend. Now you Ruby people say it was never on the backend? Unbelievable. You really do live in a world in yoru own mind. Hopefully you didn't build it on Ruby cause there's only room for one before it crashes.
so... your logic is that money makes everything better? so given a piece of shit and enough money, you can engineer that piece of shit in a Ferrari? I'm sure you'll say yes and THINK you can but the fact of the matter is you'll just end up buying me that Ferrari and saying you did.:)
And where Facebook and PHP can accomplish this goal for the frontend and the backend (and many other corporate and enterprise PHP sites), Ruby can merely do frontend work. That doesn't seem like scalability to me. That seems very limited. That to me says 'as long as you don't TAX the engine, it can perform'. That's not scaling. That's getting by.
Ruby is a language. Languages usually don't have problems with scalability.
So you are saying Visual Basic and C are going to have the same scaling challenges and that they scale equally well? Well all I can say it pass that magical crack pipe cause I want a toke too.
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Never was a nail except for the Ruby community that was in denial. Ever developer in the world except Ruby fanboys knew Ruby's inherent problem was scalability. Benchmarks showed it but they would always slant their own benchmarks to show the opposite. But facts are facts and in the end you can't deny the truth. So this is where we are at. The question is will Ruby fanboys still choose to deny the issues with Ruby or accept that it does have inherent limitations?
I can see how confusing living a lie can be confusing. I'll bet your easily confused alot. I also love the fact how your responses have become far less verbose the second I gave you shit about them. Apparently I do know how to motivate you. There's hope for you yet, HTML BOY.
It doesn't take any effort to respond to your misrepresentations and inaccuracies. I do wonder how you have so much time to come up with them, though.
LOL. It takes us a minute and 3 sentences to show how you discredit yourself. It takes you 20 minutes and 4 paragraphs of bullshit to come up with an excuse to justify your lies. Who's the real person with something to prove? I'm putting my money on the person who just graduated and is merely a contractor.
Admittedly modest and yet in your words, you have '10 years experience' (must have went back in time after graduating 3 years ago... hmmm.). And no reason to brag yet 'I wrote a book' (when you merely contributed). Sounds like an attempt to brag... a sad, lame and pathetic attempt but an attempt to brag nonetheless. LOL. Wow, you are a whole book full of contradictions. God this is hilarious.
Uh huh. Sure you don't. Caught in yet another lie huh? Classic.
It's rather easy Mathew. Your name is freely given. Your picture is on the book you contributed AJAX for. And everything else is available in DATABASES. Something you know nothing about. LOL. From there we can tell you exaggerate your accomplishments, have an overblown ego and are consistently confrontational but wrong. No one would recommend you to save your life and not even the girl you had a crush on in college. And Deloitte is the best job you can get for someone who thinks he is so friggin smart.
Sheesh, I've turned down the Microsoft Open Source Development Labs and have been offered a job at Google and that's all you can get. Sad really? You really are a pathetic human being. And that fake psychology degree didn't help you when padding your resume either did it.:)
Uh huh. Whatever you say, Mathew. Your entertainment factor is dwindling, Mathew. C'mon, act like you know something about databases again; that was hilarious. Act like you can fire people and lead a team. We were cracking up over that one. Why not tell us all about how you were unemployed for two years after graduation? And how all you can hold down is a contracting job? Tell us how awesome you are that you are just a contractor? Tell us how 'lite that is. And how your resume consists of a task you did in college for the computer lab? LOL.
Wow. You are uber lite dude. We all worship your l33t coding skillz Mathew. You are our idol.
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You still didn't... which leads me to believe you are full of crap. But I will give you that other Armies do.
I'm sorry but I have to call BS on this. My brother previously worked with the Pentagon and my other brother codes in the Army. I myself was with military intelligence (make the jokes while you can) and the civilians NEVER were in the line of fire. And they were the ones who code for the military. No one codes in the line of duty; you may have to edit a configuration, change the settings, setup a terminal, etc... but as any coder will tell you, that's NOT coding. Changing a config file is not coding. System administration is NOT coding.
Maintaining a deploy of an app built on an MVC framework with a replication database backend... now thats coding.
LOL. Yes, Microsofts track record on security has definitely been without reproach so far. And an upgrade will undoubtedly fix all problems. Honestly, are you that naive?
I'VE COME TO KICK ASS AND EAT JUJUBEES... and I have a WHOLE pocket full of JuJuBees! And I'm gonna force feed you the BLACK ONES! That's just how badass I am, human scum!
You mean just as human as you, meat bag. WE cylons don't have the weakness of being swaying by lobbyists and ...OOOH! A PIECE OF CANDY!
Ah the third grade response. Jeff Foxworthy lives.
PHP and Cake are slow as hell. Which is why I use PHPulse... 10X faster than almost all other frameworks for PHP.
Not really. Objective-C which is getting a resurgence thanks to the iPhone and Mac popularity takes alot from Smalltalk. Smalltalk is also still used in financial institutions and software and there is a resurgence in smalltalk development recently. It may be old school but a 'mature' language never truly dies.
Well researched? it's a N008 in the world of languages! C,C++,Java,Perl,PHP,Python are well researched but Ruby is still getting it's sea legs. It's a good language bt by no means try to imply that it is mature for it is not.
And your point? As I stated earlier, PHP was NEVER meant to be used for APP DEV... only web dev. That was the languages main focus and as a result it does it well when it sticks to that one focus. And it scales and handles page loads like lightning! But app dev? Not in your right mind. Sure it CAN be done.. but you can build Twitter on Ruby as well; it just shouldn't be done because the language is a bad choice due to it's inherent weaknesses: PHP for app dev, Ruby for web dev.
There is no swiss army knife language and PHP accepts that right off the bat. If you think Ruby is that swiss army language, you are only deluding yourself.
Never said PHP had threads. Hell even Twitter devs says Ruby doesn't have 'true' threads and that they are fake threads. As for LinkedIn and Hulu, watch how fast they dump Ruby; Hulu already is having problems. Seeing that scaling issue yet? PHP is used by PeopleSoft and Financial corporations who need scalability and stability. People who use Ruby apparently don't care about either.
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And you seem to flip flop between saying 'Ruby is great on the backend' one second and the dnying it the next. Make up your mind. This is our entire argument about it's scalability. PHP IS the backend AND the frontend for all the sites that use it.
Ruby is just wrapping paper for another language like Scala that can actually scale.
Listen to your own Ruby rhetoric. Ruby itself doesn't have threading; it's FAUX threads. And PHP was never meant to be used for app development; it's meant for web development. That would be like trying to build an OS in Visual Basic (now watch some idiot try).
Yeah I understand what they are doing with Scala. And They DID try to do alot of it with Ruby over the years and Ruby people touted it over and over while we said it doesn't scale over and over and pointed out how they were removing more and more Ruby on the backend. Now you Ruby people say it was never on the backend? Unbelievable. You really do live in a world in yoru own mind. Hopefully you didn't build it on Ruby cause there's only room for one before it crashes.
so... your logic is that money makes everything better? so given a piece of shit and enough money, you can engineer that piece of shit in a Ferrari? I'm sure you'll say yes and THINK you can but the fact of the matter is you'll just end up buying me that Ferrari and saying you did. :)
And where Facebook and PHP can accomplish this goal for the frontend and the backend (and many other corporate and enterprise PHP sites), Ruby can merely do frontend work. That doesn't seem like scalability to me. That seems very limited. That to me says 'as long as you don't TAX the engine, it can perform'. That's not scaling. That's getting by.
So you are saying Visual Basic and C are going to have the same scaling challenges and that they scale equally well? Well all I can say it pass that magical crack pipe cause I want a toke too.
Never was a nail except for the Ruby community that was in denial. Ever developer in the world except Ruby fanboys knew Ruby's inherent problem was scalability. Benchmarks showed it but they would always slant their own benchmarks to show the opposite. But facts are facts and in the end you can't deny the truth. So this is where we are at. The question is will Ruby fanboys still choose to deny the issues with Ruby or accept that it does have inherent limitations?
LOL. Attacking typos. The last refuge of the desperate.
I can see how confusing living a lie can be confusing. I'll bet your easily confused alot. I also love the fact how your responses have become far less verbose the second I gave you shit about them. Apparently I do know how to motivate you. There's hope for you yet, HTML BOY.
Not too bright are you? Can't put two and two together now. Getting dumber by the second since you graduated. What kind of community college was that?
LOL. It takes us a minute and 3 sentences to show how you discredit yourself. It takes you 20 minutes and 4 paragraphs of bullshit to come up with an excuse to justify your lies. Who's the real person with something to prove? I'm putting my money on the person who just graduated and is merely a contractor.
Admittedly modest and yet in your words, you have '10 years experience' (must have went back in time after graduating 3 years ago... hmmm.). And no reason to brag yet 'I wrote a book' (when you merely contributed). Sounds like an attempt to brag... a sad, lame and pathetic attempt but an attempt to brag nonetheless. LOL. Wow, you are a whole book full of contradictions. God this is hilarious.
:)
Please keep going. You're killing me.
Uh huh. Sure you don't. Caught in yet another lie huh? Classic.
:)
It's rather easy Mathew. Your name is freely given. Your picture is on the book you contributed AJAX for. And everything else is available in DATABASES. Something you know nothing about. LOL. From there we can tell you exaggerate your accomplishments, have an overblown ego and are consistently confrontational but wrong. No one would recommend you to save your life and not even the girl you had a crush on in college. And Deloitte is the best job you can get for someone who thinks he is so friggin smart.
Sheesh, I've turned down the Microsoft Open Source Development Labs and have been offered a job at Google and that's all you can get. Sad really? You really are a pathetic human being. And that fake psychology degree didn't help you when padding your resume either did it.
Do you have any friends?
Uh huh. Whatever you say, Mathew. Your entertainment factor is dwindling, Mathew. C'mon, act like you know something about databases again; that was hilarious. Act like you can fire people and lead a team. We were cracking up over that one. Why not tell us all about how you were unemployed for two years after graduation? And how all you can hold down is a contracting job? Tell us how awesome you are that you are just a contractor? Tell us how 'lite that is. And how your resume consists of a task you did in college for the computer lab? LOL.
Wow. You are uber lite dude. We all worship your l33t coding skillz Mathew. You are our idol.
Truth hurts don't it. Hey but at least you can design web pages for your mom's friends when your contract job ends soon. :)
Nice dodge. I especially liked the way you took everything i just said about you and said it about me. How creative.
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Enjoy your contract job doing HTML.